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no more forgive and forget posts

Posted By: I for one on 2008-12-19
In Reply to: Should say the child found in Florida proved to be the Caylee child, homicide. - Marion

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081219/ap_on_re_us/palin_johnston_arrest


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I say forgive, of course, but forget, NO WAY......sm
To be a true friend and truly care for someone, you first have to respect them and honor their dignity....how can care for anyone, friend, lover, or whatever, if you cannot be TRUTHFUL? How can you say you respect someone whiile blatantly lying to them? As a Christian and hopefully good person, I belive we always have to forgive, but to forget as if nothing had happened, that is impossible, I would think. She betrayed you by lying, not by seeing your ex, that is HER problem if she wants a second-hand loser, but friendship is a sacred bond, I am sure you can forge some newer, better friendships, can you ever feel any confidence in this woman again? Just my firm opinion, I had this done to me many years ago when very young, and although we tried, the friendship was never the same, for obvious reasons. God bless in your decision!
I can forgive, but how to forget?

a few weeks back my youngest son was injured.  My mother came by to bring him some ice cream.  For some reason something i said or did made my mother angry.  I did not know this at the time.  My husband and I went to lunch with said child, my mother and grandmother the next day.  I noticed they were acting rather stiff and one time hubby, child and I went to the bathroom.  When I walked back to the table M and G promptly stopped talking.  Confused, the next day I called and asked the grandmother if I had done something wrong.  Out of the blue she stated that she didn't think i should not let one child do something without the other (speaking about a birthday party they were BOTH invited to) I laughed and told her they had both been invited, that the child invited all of his friends and their brothers and I would never dream of self inviting my child to a party!!!  Anyway I called my mother and told her the same thing.  They both still sounded rather stiff.  Well along came Thanksgiving.  My MIL came over to our house so we didn't go to my grandma's house.  My sister in law then told me all the things that were said about me...that I treat my oldest like crap, my youngest is a spoiled brat, etc.  and that my grandma was actually CRYING because she believes my oldest is treated so badly.  I honestly have NO CLUE where they got all of this!! I was flabbergasted!!! I just wrote them both off and just never really wanted to talk to them.    No confrontation, nothing.  I didn't even return their calls.


So today my grandma stops by unannounced and begs me to forgive her and that she wants to see my boys some time during christmas.  SHe won't talk about the incident, what sparked it or even what the heck my mom thinks is so bad about how i have treated my oldest.  I'm at a loss.  On one hand I really want to get together with her.  She is just going on something that someone else told her about me.  On the other hand I feel like my every move will be judged if I am around her with my kids.  I told her I forgive her and I honestly do, but i'm not sure how to get past this.  I'm having a Christmas lunch Saturday with my brother.  Should I invite her or just say to heck with it and not see her?


 


Religious posts and political posts go to appropriate boards. NM
Goldbird
I think you can forgive
but that doesn't mean you have to live with it. I have forgiven my EX-husband. lol
Should I forgive? and if so how??? (sm)

My husband hit me about 4 years ago...he slammed my head into a pole on our carport and pulled my hair, bruised my arms, cursed in my face.  It was a shock to me because he had never acted that way before, although he had been somewhat aggressive in the past.  It wasn't even a big argument, and I was stunned.  I left for a week and made him go to anger management counselling.  He went to two sessions, I came back home and he quit going.  He has never hit me again.  It has been four years. But he was never terribly sorry.... I have never felt the same way about him since.  I have never wanted to be intimate with him since.  I don't even like him touching me.  I have prayed, been to marriage counsellors, tried to change my feelings toward him and I just can't. 


It seems ridiculous to me to think of divorcing a man for something he did four years ago but I can't seem to feel anything for him anymore.  What do I do?


I think you should forgive them both...
maybe not forget, but try not to hold a grudge. Keep in mind that your mother raised you and loves you the way you love your own children and it probably hurts her terribly that she hears nothing from you. It's Christmas time. If ever there was a time to try our best to be Christ-like, I suppose this is it.
I would definitely forgive them sm
and move forward as you normally would but would be cautious in the future. Should they gossip about you in the future I would definitely curtail your time around them - they could be toxic
Please forgive the typos . . .
Trying to help feed Baby Alive while typing. LOL Apparently Santa did a good thing this year.
How many times could you forgive...
Your spouse for having an affair? I just found out that a friend of mine's husband has left her twice for another woman and both times she has forgiven him (this happened before we met). I just don't know if I could do that twice, once MAYBE, but certainly not twice...how bout you?
Please forgive the double post. Wise NM
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Be the bigger person and forgive! Course my opinion
 
forgive me-I didn't realize you were the grandparent!

  but I also think you, as a grandparent, can supply all the info to CS....my situation was entirely different and I'm sorry I didn't realize you were the grandparent before I posted...


 


And God Bless you for taking responsibility for your grandkids, my parents would have done zippo!!     


What makes some people forgive so easily and others not so easy? sm

The reason I ask is that I am in a very unique situation. I have a family member (an in law) who basically hates me. She and I have sort of been at it on and off for 8 years. She's a very mean person, very judgmental, hates everybody. I mean, seriously. It's bad. She rubbed off on me for too long. We were friends! I used to point and make fun at others ONLY when around her. When I finally caught on that she was not a very good influence and that I was so easily pursuaded by her meanness towards other people (backstabbing, etc), I began to keep my distance. And she caught on. Now she hates me. For no reason, really, other than I don't call her anymore, don't hang out with her anymore. And here lately she has been doing evil things to me like returning cards I've sent to her family with a giant "return to sender" on the envelope, getting her sister against me (I mean, come on, how old are we??), etc. She will be at my mother in law's for the holidays with her kids and I am cringing inside.  In fact, just today, I received a nasty email from her when I got home saying some pretty mean things, calling me crazy, insane, etc. which I know I'm not, but it hurts anyways to hear stuff like that.  She has a very hard time forgiving people, I've seen it over and over in her life, and now it has come to the fact that I need her to forgive me in order for ME to have peace in my life. It's just the kind of person that I am. I am totally willing to look past all the mean things she's done and said the past year and try to move forward positively!


So, fast forward. I've written her an email basically BEGGING for her forgiveness and saying I'm sorry for whatever I've done to hurt you (I know I've hurt her by not wanting to be around her,etc), and told her it wasn't good for us to be on the outs like this.  I am pretty sensitive (if you can't tell already), and I really, really, really wish she could get past all of this and just forgive. We all need a little forgiveness, don't we?? What do you think? Why is it that some are so easily forgiven and others will go to their grave filled with HATE? I don't understand it one bit.


 


I'm not saying I'm any better than she is. I know I'm not.  I just don't have an evil vein in my body to not forgive people and I HATE when others talk about others behind their backs. It's mean. I grew up around that stuff and once I reached adulthood and realized that I didn't need to talk about others to make myself feel better, I hated being around it. Give me some advice.  Should I send the letter?


Please help me. Would you send it? She obviously needs love. What would you do? Would you just tell her to forget it and move on or would you be like her and hate back?


Sorry meant sequins - this is a forum not work - please forgive me for not proofing
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YIKES! I shoulda proofread before posting. Forgive all the typos and omissions!

don't forget
Rotel and chips - always at must at our gettogethers!  Also the mini quiches are always a hit from Sam's.
Tell her to forget it.
It isn't her wedding. Plain and simple. Stick to what your son really wants not what he may be pressured in to.
Don't forget though
that while you can get outside help, a restraining order will not necessarily save you if the guy won't abide by it. I don't know anything about this woman or this case, but I'm just sayin.
Don't forget the pig (sm)
You can dress him all up in leather and boots as your "assistant".


How Could I Forget !?!
I also love Piglet from Winnie the Pooh, and Dorie from Finding Nemo. My friends laughed like crazy when we first saw that movie, because I totally AM Dorie.
thanks..trying to forget it lol
i might give it a try. I just wish I didn't have to pay shipping!

I tried the Physicians Formula version of bare minerals and thought it brought out the lines in my face too much so I swore off those powder-type foundations. I have heard a lot of good things about bare minerals so I guess I should try it!
and don't forget...sm
the melted Crisco, about a tablespoon or so melted in the cast iron skillet, then poured into the cornmeal mixture...mmm good!
don't forget...sm
to go to the bottom and click on Table of Contents....There's tons of nostalgic info that'll throw you into the way-back machine.  Cat 
forget it!

I am certain that the pic post was not supposed to be just the HTML code.  Sorry for all of the mess I guess it is too early for me to figure out


We Will Never Forget

This was created by a 15-year-old named Lizzy Palmer.  It's really something.


   http://www.youtube.com/v/ervaMPt4Ha0&autoplay=1 
 





Oh, how could I forget...
Ellen! I love Ellen. Don't get to catch her most days because I'm getting ready for dinner but she makes me laugh and I love her show.
Don't forget 60 is the new 40!!
Happy Birthday!!
Your welcome! Don't forget to
check the theater website for coupons or a frequent visitor card. He probably wouldn't fill one out himself but you could fill it out and include it in with the gift card. Usually you can get free drinks, etc. and it will really stretch the gift card.

We did a "movie pack" for my brother-in-law and sister-in-law last year. I found a plastic popcorn bucket at the $1 store and wal-mart had candy in the boxes (like at the movies) for a $1. Turned out to be a very cute gift if I do say so myself. We through the giftcard in there instead of buying a $3 card to go along with the giftcard.
Don't forget................ sm
peas and cornbread, beans and cornbread, fried squash. Man..... Now I'm hungry!
And don't forget to
cancel any credit cards with your name on them... My ex-husband maxed mine out before I realized it.
don't forget QT!
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Just one question. Do you ever forget anything and
have to go back and get it? I do.
I will NEVER forget what I got for my 16th...

 


My mother wrapped a box, and inside was a telephone.  I was a little confused, as this was WELL before the days of cell phones.  It was my own phone line for my room.  Now in the day and age of kids having cell phones, that isn't probably a wonderful idea, but it's certainly cheaper than a cell phone, you have more control over it, she can't lose it... And if your DD doesn't have a cell phone of her own, it's still a pretty durn cool present. 


But what do I know?  I haven't been cool since about 1989... 


Don't forget the next generation
will be at it sooner than you'd think, LOL.
I go out and forget to lock
the door when I come back in, have left the keys in the lock. I hate it when husband sees that.
Forget being delicate & just say sometimes you have sex during the day,
hs
don't forget manatees

Oh God how could I forget when my husband and I first met sm
I was invited to the in-laws for Thanksgiving. I was SOO in love with my husband back then and wanted to impress his family so much! A few weeks before Thanksgiving I had found this yeast roll recipe TO DIE FOR! I would roll the bread, let it rise, bake them, and they would rise about 5 times it's size with a delicious, light, fluffy flavor. So, I told my soon-to-be mother-in-law I would do the rolls (to feed 25+ people).

Well, I prepared the night before but we had had a bad frost and the house was COLD! I woke up the next morning and the bread had risen just a little bit, but I thought I'd bring them anyway and bake them there. All 60 or so pieces! I got to their house (good thing they had a double oven) and began baking the rolls thinking they would rise with the heat from the oven. They never did! They ended up being as heavy as a hockey puck (I swear), gooey, chewy, and just plain bad. The only person that ate them was my soon-to-be father-in-law (whom I adore to this day!). This was in a pretty small town so the only thing open was the Git-N-Go gas station. I knew they didn't carry any bread.

Can you imagine how mortified I was???? The one thing I was asked to bring and BOMBED it. So, we all went without bread that year. Needless to say, they've never asked me to bring the rolls ever again. Come to think of it, they haven't asked me to bring anything since! I swear! haha
That is such a bad thing to forget, would you not say?
Then you kill yourself? I have a variety of medications for different ailments, things for sleep, things for pain- I don’t buy forgetting. I would buy if you are trying to dope up, that I would buy but oops,,, took too many, checking out time. If you cannot keep up with the dosages of medss, they have these separated plastic thingys you put your pills in day by day. No excuses really - except doping it up and ooops...
don't forget about your rebate too!

I think it's $600 per adult and $300 per child - if you're within the income limits.  Most people are because it's designed for the middle class workers.  To promote us to spend more.  I think most of us already have it spent and are waiting for it to pay off the bills. 


I'm with you - we always pay off the credit card or a large expense, like furniture.  We do those 1-year financing deals.  My husband said no more of those.  We'd like to use our refund for vacation.


and lets not forget
Beauty is as beauty does.
For me, it's because I usually forget the list!
I'm a person who has to write reminders to remember my reminders.
Don't forget Bluebirds!!!!
I went through to the first levels of cadettes but nothing after that.
Just forget it. This is the Gab Board, isn't it?
I have seen stupider questions asked on this board.
What's wrong with asking Americans if they like Europeans and which European nationals they like most?

What's wrong with you people!

Or maybe you react like this because the majority never met a European and have never been outside of the US, never traveled in an airplane.

Geeeez!!
What you said proves that he should forget about
looking for a 22-year-old. His is wife is a 56-year-old beauty.
Don't forget that Kate has also
been accused of cheating with her bodyguard. At least Jon is man enough to acknowledge that he made mistakes in their marriage which is something Kate did not do until last night with her fake tears. She also cheated on the boyfriend before Jon.

I quit watching the show after she insisted that she never had any help with the kids, prepared all meals, rarely took vacations as it was not in their budget and could not afford to and overall, very frugal. It came out that she had nannies, a personal chef, all vacations were paid for, cosmetic work paid for, 75,000 an episode, 3,000 speaking fee - seems she lies about a lot of things so why not cheating?

The way she made a fool of Jon was an outrage with her constant yelling and demaning way.

Should they divorce, I hope Jon gets full custody. Those kids are nothing but a meal ticket to her. She has exploited them from day one. I also heard that she put down another famly that had sextuplets - guess she is getting nervous but that family said they would never put their children in front of the camera.

I think the kids would have a stable life with Jon.
and let's not forget - in THIS country your kids will

I understand what you are saying, BUT if you knew you would forget sm
important dates (and I'm not the only friend she does this to), then don't you think you would get a system going where you could be reminded about important things and dates? They have palm pilots, notebooks, pesonal alarm clocks, etc., to help you in remembering dates. But it's not only that, it's specific conversations we have together that, the next time we talk, she doesn't even remember.

I'm sorry, but if you truly tried you could remember. I am terrible with names. I teach a class part-time and so when I meet someone I have to write their names down since I am a visual learner. Again, I'm trying and fixing what I know needs to be fixed.

She is in her 30s. She just needs to slow down, take inventory, and cut things out of her life so she can remember the things she needs to remember. And I've told her this before. I'm just through. That's it for me.
yeah, and don't forget to mention--sm
that it is HUMID there 99% of the time, even in the winter. If you like to sweat, it is great! There is also the possibility of hurricanes, depending on how close you are to the coast, but even inland can get the effects of them. Just some of the cons. thought I would throw them in. I lived in SE Virginia, clost to NC border...hated it! Beautiful country!! but lousy weather! Glad I am back in WI.
Don't forget to ahead of time...sm
Figure out what you want to sell things for, and check ebay to see what items you have are currently selling there, and don't sell for less than that at a yard sale.

For example, recently I sold a used PDA for $20 + $10 shipping on eBay that my attempts to sell at a yardsale only had offers of $5. It had all of the original packaging, books, cables, etc and retails currently for $100.

I also sold a sump pump on eBay for $25 + $15 shipping that originally cost $80. At our yardsale I had guys bickering at wanting to pay even $15 for it.

Bottom line: Know the market and have fun, but don't be a sucker! :o)
And don't forget to press 1 for English - or is it 2?
nm