let school deal with it...You've got a bad court
Posted By: sm on 2007-10-27
In Reply to: I know my chances are 0 with that court - 500 miles away
After your experience with this court (which is the same one you'll be in for anything unless dad moves out of jurisdiction), I would just let the school handle it. Depending on the state, if he's kept out of school for so many days, the school should file truency action against him. As far as custody goes, you've probably got a losing battle in that court even if your son says he wants to live with you unless the ex agrees to let him move. Before going in for custody, be sure you've researched PAS (parental alienation syndrome) etc (Leadershipcouncil.org is a good site) and how it's used to discredit mothers in courts. Google the owner of kourts for kids and follow that case (titleman v titleman) which was just scheduled for conference with the US Supreme Court with 2 amicus briefs. Hers is not an unusual case. Google the judge in Wilson Co, TN recently reprimanded for refusing to follow court of appeals mandate to reverse her ruling which put a kid in sole custody of father who DCS and other pros said sexually abused him. Can give you the judge's name and other info if you e-mail me, but moderator won't allow real names on the board. Like I said before...be sure your ducks are in a row before going to court.
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The department you deal with in Michigan for things like this is called "Friend of the Court".
You need to get in touch with your version of this in your state and tell them what is going on and file a form for re-do the visitation agreement. You may even have to see your original divorce attorney. We went through this with my husband's ex-wife and he filed papers to amend the visitation and what they call an "in pro per" form. Which basically is a DIY form. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but you need to get started now to get your ducks in a row.
Have you thought about talking to somebody at the local VA office in your state or city? Those guys are a wealth of information.
Good luck to you.
Our public school wasn't teaching phonics so we've moved....sm
our daughter to a private school that does. Before moving her she was barely able to read because the public schools were teaching them to "read" by looking at pictures and if they knew what the picture was they would know what the word was. For the life of me I don't understand how that's supposed to teach a child to read and I told the school board that in life you don't always have pictures for everything! Our daughter's reading improved immensely once we moved her to private school and she can read anything - without pictures. :o)
Call the school. I had a threat like this in my high school and they cancelled school that day.
Thankfully, because the person making the threats was found with material for home made pipe bombs and quit a bit of ammunition and a shotgun. He was arrested and charged. Never allowed back in the school.
I think it would be safer to call the school and get classes cancelled for a day to investigate versus make a scene in the parking lot, especially if the student with the knife is inside with the knife.
Good luck. If nothing happens, pull your child out of school for a week. See what happens. I know that sounds horrible, but small towns is where this happens most often.
Sounds like my kids...on a school day "we just got home from school!" on a vacation day....sm
But this is our vacation! My husband takes vacation days and leaves town without us...lol! He would never dream of taking a day off to work around the house!
Court TV is now Tru TV as of 1 1 08 nm.
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Some will go to court WITHOUT you..sm
without informing you. Its your word against theirs that you were/werent served with a notice to appear. Next thing you know, you get a letter that a judgment has been entered against you. (Happened to me, and worse.)
How is the school's fault if Johnny comes to school armed?
And how is the school's fault if off campus people are getting jumped? Everybody wants to blame the schools, but the reason places have gone "zero tolerance" is because every parent whose kid gets popped for an illegal weapon says, "Oh, my little pookie wouldn't do that." Which is exactly what the parents of every perpetrator of school violence has said. At 15, this girl should have been aware that it was verboten and, if they felt that strongly it was necessary, kept it hidden. If she is not capable of thinking that part through, maybe she shouldn't be trusted with pepper spray anyway.
How is this kid in school with chronic infestation? School nurse
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this should be challenged in court
This is NOT a communicable disease and should NOT be mandatory. What about possible side effects, what about 20 years down the line when they discover it caused a new problem. No. It is wrong to make this mandatory. This regards one's personal health decisions, for their CHILD no less. What next?
You need to get it back into court sm
and get this changed. Is there any reason you feel you might deprived of all visitation privileges? So hard to give real advice or opinion without the details. Sad for you though, must be hard. You need some court mandated visitation rules.
Yep, ordered to court but you might be ok
the only exempt 1 today was a new owner and he had just had lawn put down- but having said that- you are only allowed maybe a month and then after that a homeowner on same restrictions as others so don’t know how much it could get roots and grow by them. We have sprinkler system but I try not to use if I can, just too expense and I am cheap!
Court Jobs
Here where I live Court jobs pay excellent, plus there are all sorts of benefits, pensions, and a lot of time off. They're very had to come by, though. Some of them are civil service, and some is definitely who you know. I was a paralegal for a long time before I became an MT and I always wished I was able to get in the Court system.
I know my chances are 0 with that court
You said "I've seen them put kids in the custody of parents who are known to abuse them when the other parent has no problems, etc."
That's exactly the situation here. My son wants to live with his dad due to his lax (to put it mildly) parenting skills and will cheefully lie to keep daddy out of trouble. The last custody battle was the worst nightmare I ever hope to go through, every lie the ex told was taken as gospel, every truth I told was "alleged" - and while the judge was making the custody decision, my ex went to jail for being drunk and naked in his yard while my child was present, the court was quite aware of this and he STILL got awarded custody. I am really reluctant to jump into another such fiasco, and I told my son until he is ready to tell the judge in writing he wants to live with me, I won't go back to court.
I am convinced that by the time I got to court my son would be back in school, it would be a moot point, I would be told its "normal" to miss that much school, ex would get a pat on the head for his "loving parental concern", and the ex would retaliate by counter-filing to double or triple my child support payments.
That particular court has told me "lots of children go to school filthy and in rags, its the community norm, its no big deal". My child has experienced recurrent scabies and lice due to his father's lifestyle, (which is also "normal" to the court) so I am utterly amazed at his dad's sudden concern for his health.
when you go to court in the USA, you swear on..sm
In every court in the USA, one swears on a bible, probably the New Testament (I know it's not the Old Testament), and no matter who you are, you have to swear on the Bible (in a trial case). I would swear on it - it's a book about God, no matter if it's the old one or the new one, and as a result it still holds up as a respectable Bible to me for swearing to God.....I revere all books such as this, for everyone's religious beliefs.
Unfortunately, I am court ordered to do it
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They will take you to court, without doubt.
It isn't too little for them. If they have evidence you owe that debt, then they have legal recourse to collect.
If it goes to court, you will get a judgement against you. It will go on your credit record and they can also garnish wages to receive their money. They may be entitled to other collection means.
It won't matter whether you send a cease and desist letter -- it is a debt you legally owe. You need to call them immediately and discuss your concerns over the legitimacy of the claim. Never, ever avoid them - it will just cost you more in the long run.
yes, you can go to the family court and do that on your own.
You do not need an attorney. Research online. I think you even HAVE to do this, updating the financial situations for the sake of the children.
so what r u taking her to court for?
You didn't cosign for the vehicle. You didn't loan her the $$ for her electric bill. You didn't want any profit from the business. The only thing I saw you mention was at the end about animal food, etc, but isn't that considered start-up costs of a business?
Sorry, don't mean to make you madder, just confused.
I have watched enough court room TV
to know that if someone offers to store stuff for another person, they are obligated to make sure that it is properly taken care of. I remember one case where someone had taken the items that they offered to store and then put them in the hallway outside the unit when they got in an argument. Of course they were stolen! That is negligence. They offered to store them for her. They should have parked them with their own quads, as obviously they thought that was safer than near the street, geez.
I agree that it is sad to lose a relationship over $1700, but they were clearly negligent with her property. If her sister was any kind of a woman, she would have admitted it was her fault. I also think that if she would have just admitted it and said sorry that the OP would probably not have been as upset as she was. I have no doubt some of that resentment is due to the fact that they are taking no responsibility whatsoever.
You need to contact the supreme Court
Florida tried to make sacrificing animals illegal but were overturned by the Supreme Court in 1993 for interfering with religious practices.
You can be held in contempt of court and go
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When you are summonds to court, do you have a choice
about whether you can show up or not?? What was the good behavior, no more sex films for the time being, not more than 3 DUIs? I have not heard about her good behavior.
I got wrong information from court..
Told I could go in and collect enough to not only pay what they owe me but also to cover the truck I rented this morning and also more court costs because they would sell in 1 bundle on court house steps. The deputy this morning tells me I can only get what totals up to my amount. This is where I am left- paying out of pocket for another truck, renting a storage place for a month, running ad in paper to advertise the sale and then also paying for other costs, autioneer. Now if someone bids $5.00 and no one else goes higher - they get for $5.00. You are so right- if I stole from them I would be under the jail. How a place like this stays in business- not small place - 4 around town. They are on Kudzu and I will write scathing report after this is over plus better business but right now trying to find out bank. I could sit there but I do work and how can I work that? Have no idea when anyone would go to the bank. I can garnish- thought about having someone pay check there for a small amount and then see where deposited. That would take me another month or so though and I am chomping at the bits as I type.
By not transcribing a court hearing
a woman here in town is now sitting in jail. She either did not want to or ignored not finishing a particular case and when she did so called finish, she was 90 pages short. The judge has just sent her to jail. Ekkk.
maybe i watch too many court shows, but...
couldn't you locate him through his police/firefighters' union and take him to small claims court. if it was truly a loan and not a gift, you have a case and if it is under a certain amount of money depending on your state, you do not need a lawyer. do not give up; he could lose his job over fraud!
Small claims court.
Call your local legal aid. They should be able to tell you if you have a case. I think you might be able to take her to small claims court. She is not holding up her end of the bargain.
small claims court - sue them both for the balance - sm
But.... talk to your niece about it and let her know that in order to sue her ex roomie for the money, you also have to sue her.
Let it be a life lesson and tell her it's not like you hold anything against her but you have bills too and can't support hers.
Small claims court, am sure, would work
exactly like it did today. I got a default judgement and then I have to go to find the money owed me. Had a case in small claims years ago and about the first thing told to the clients was just because you won a judgement, you had to be the 1 to collect. I might call tomorrow and ask a few questions. Thanks
The noncustodial parent needs to get court-ordered...
visitation, which the custodial parent will have to abide by.
If there are then go back to court. This is a dead beat mom,
dfs
The court system is a rotational door
There was enough evidence. Even the mother who got the children back had her own father testifying she did drugs, lousy mother, on and on. I am so glad I don’t have to put up with that crap anymore. This is where the welfare $$$ went, to a person who did not have enough get up and go to see the kids off to school in the morning. What a waste but lawdy, lawdy, make sure these mothers get those kids back. Glad I am not involved in the court system anymore.
I'm more annoyed that the court keeps giving her one more chance.
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I can't believe Harvey Levin (from People's Court). I no sm
longer have any respect for him. He's the websites founder and host of TMZ. I thought he was smart.
Can't ever catch a break! Missed court date for
I got a ticket 4 days before Christmas for having an expired tag (had planned to get it taken care of when my income taxes came in - my fault, but crap, I've been broke the whole year!). So I got the tag renewed the next day because the cop said they would be looking again after New Year's to write another ticket (have seen that my city has had a 25% increase in tickets written in the last month - like they need the revenue!). So, all I had for my little one was a PlayDough activity center under the tree $15, and a pink umbrella and some candy in the stocking from Santa. She was happy, though.
I've had that **??@$ ticket next to my monitor to look at it every day for the last 2 months to remind myself to go before the judge and ask for an extension of paying it until Friday when my check comes in. I have literally been living paycheck to paycheck, sometimes with only $8 in my account in between. Well, tomorrow I am scheduled to go to a different court to get a child support order (money I'll never see anyway), and I picked up my big orange folder to put my income tax return in it to take with me. Guess where I put it? Yup, right on top of that **??@$ ticket. Yup, I forgot to go to court last night. Was being bombarded with emails that my accounts could lose power due to the storm and all MTs needed to empty the systems. Now there is an arrest warrant out on me. I talked to a clerk at court and he told me to stay indoors until Friday, then come in and pay to have the warrant removed, then I can get a new date to pay the **??@$ ticket.
Well, I have to go to CS court tomorrow, but at least it is just a short hop onto the interstate and then quickly out of my city limits. If I can just make it till Friday, pay the warrant, maybe my karma will start changing. For the last 15 months, I feel like I am the little kid on Charlie Brown that walks around in a dust cloud. I have seen the inside of more court rooms in the last year than most people see in their lives with getting custody of GD. I must have done something really nasty to have this kind of karma for this long. Oh, well. They say when you're down, the only way to go is up. At least paying to have the warrant removed is less than the ticket and it gives me another month to come up with the money for that. I'm so broke, I can't even get drunk to forget my troubles! Maybe my luck will change by St. Patty's Day
p.s. I had to edit this message because I used the word s-t-u-p-i-d to describe that ticket and the website wouldn't let me use it, thus the **??@$ symbols !!
Update traffic court/child support
Well, I managed to make it to family court yesterday and back home while flying low :) My son-in-law walked out 5 months in arrears and next payment due 3/1, already in debt for about 2 grand, plus he has to pay for the DNA test (99.999% - ha, didn't need Maury after all!) My daughter is $1500 in arrears with another payment due 3/1, and her order has been moved over into the category to take any Federal Income Tax refunds she gets in the future to be applied to the order. So now, finally, I should have no further court appearances unless the two want to TPR (terminpate parental rights) and let me adopt. The next step for my daughter is jail if she doesn't pay in March, so she is already making noises she might let me adopt. The dud has wanted to me to adopt her all along to avoid CS.
I went to municipal court and had the arrest warrant removed and was given another 2 months to pay the s-t-u-p-i-d ticket. I asked whether the judge would accept that I corrected the tag problem the next day and was told no. If it was expired at the time the ticket was written, then they do not make exceptions. I checked our local newspaper and the city hired 11 new officers in 2006 for the specific purpose of enforcing vehicle/driving codes in the city. They have increased the number of traffic-related tickets issued to almost 18,000 in 2006, up from less than 8,000 in 2004. Now I just have to remember to pay it, but did buy a new day planner today and have written 3 reminders to myself to pay it on time
On another note, as I have no health insurance and need certain maintenance medications (almost $1000) a month, I found needymeds.com. I have already received a 3-month supply of one drug and will be receiving another each month shipped to my doctor's office. The manufacturers help people who fall between the cracks by providing free medications.
I feel a lot better about things.
Really think court case, child abuse charges
when another mother breastfed her child past a so called normal age. The poster says do not worry about what others think and the kids did not have to wear braces, but what about emotional issues that might come to pass with a 6 year old still on the boob? Most in this country, I am sure, would agree with these posts that you overstepped bounds in a mother-child relationship when this happened. Some things just should not happen.
File in small claims court locally
it's about $25 and that fee will be reimbursed you when you win your case. They will get the money from them - that is the only way I know to recoup your loss. You need to do it legally through the court system.
No dead beat if no CS agreed on but not paying court
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People hauled into court today here in Georgia for
watering their lawns. One guy had bench warrant put against him when he did not show up in court. We are in such a drought, first offense is $100.00 plus but the second one is $400.00 plus and after that I think your water is turned off. I wish Texas could share some with us. They don’t need and we do.
She's a regular on Court TV and has a show on Headline News
I'm not a huge Nancy Grace fan, but I do appreciate her spunk! She is an advid advocate for the prosecution. When she was young, teens or early 20s?, her fiance was killed in front of her in a convenience store. After that she became a prosecuting attorney and then got a gig on CTV.
She's very, very pro-prosecution to the point of when the person is arrested, they are guilty according to her. Many times they are guilty, but she just takes it a little too far IMO.
She also never forgets the victim, who sometimes gets lost in the shuffle, and for that I do admire her.
Anyhow, she has a replacement tonight if you happen to be watching.
I am a CASA (court appointed special advocate) and I personally see nothing (sm)
wrong with mothers working at home while their children are there. For goodness sake, the mother can get up and check on them, the children can come to mommy with a problem. They are not unattended. If I were investigating a case as a possible neglect situation where the children were at home with mom working I would have to laugh.
I have seen many more neglectful moms who were doing nothing, I mean nothing except talking on the phone, watching soaps, napping, engaging in all sorts of sexual behaviors, using drugs or alcohol, etc. These parents are by far the more neglectful and causing more harm to their children.
The children of MTs are observing mom multi-task and yet they still have the advantage of having her there to break up an argument, put on a bandaid, etc.
With all the horror stories of day care anymore how can you even suggest they are harming their children.
Paris to serve all 45 days. Left court crying and screaming
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Poll. The Nebraska high court decided that the electric chair is inhumane. What do you think? nm
I think it should be legal and used in certain circumstances. I mean, if DNA proves that the person committed the crime, confesses to it, is caught on tape - why can't the electric chair be used on them? What about the inhumanity that the "convict" used on his victims?
Big deal....
Let her call your home and wish him a happy birthday. Is she hurting anyone. There are children starving to death in other countries and women being raped and killed and you have a nice warm house and beautiful children. Just let her be and let things happen as they will. We are not in control of things to begin with.
I would much rather deal with this
So they pass gas or burp. Big flippin' deal! Better than drugs, guns, and the like that pass through the doors of a school! Cut me a break... You people are outta control here. Parents allowing it? So what if they do? They can teach manners, but let's face it, kids will be kids, and sometimes it happens. That is just plain crazy to think that because your child farts in class that makes him the next serial killer! Paaaleeezzze!
So what? What's the big deal? You act like they want to
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If you don't know what the big deal is....
This is a long read but worth it........
A National ID Bill Masquerading as Immigration Reform
by Rep. Ron Paul, MD
by Rep. Ron Paul, MD
Watch Ron Paul deliver this speech to the House of Representatives on video.
Before the US House of Representatives, February 9, 2005
Mr. Speaker:
I rise in strong opposition to HR 418, the REAL ID Act. This bill purports to make us safer from terrorists who may sneak into the United States, and from other illegal immigrants. While I agree that these issues are of vital importance, this bill will do very little to make us more secure. It will not address our real vulnerabilities. It will, however, make us much less free. In reality, this bill is a Trojan horse. It pretends to offer desperately needed border control in order to stampede Americans into sacrificing what is uniquely American: our constitutionally protected liberty.
What is wrong with this bill?
The REAL ID Act establishes a national ID card by mandating that states include certain minimum identification standards on driver's licenses. It contains no limits on the government's power to impose additional standards. Indeed, it gives authority to the Secretary of Homeland Security to unilaterally add requirements as he sees fit.
Supporters claim it is not a national ID because it is voluntary. However, any state that opts out will automatically make non-persons out of its citizens. The citizens of that state will be unable to have any dealings with the federal government because their ID will not be accepted. They will not be able to fly or to take a train. In essence, in the eyes of the federal government they will cease to exist. It is absurd to call this voluntary.
Republican Party talking points on this bill, which claim that this is not a national ID card, nevertheless endorse the idea that "the federal government should set standards for the issuance of birth certificates and sources of identification such as driver's licenses." So they admit that they want a national ID but at the same time pretend that this is not a national ID.
This bill establishes a massive, centrally-coordinated database of highly personal information about American citizens: at a minimum their name, date of birth, place of residence, Social Security number, and physical and possibly other characteristics. What is even more disturbing is that, by mandating that states participate in the "Drivers License Agreement," this bill creates a massive database of sensitive information on American citizens that will be shared with Canada and Mexico!
This bill could have a chilling effect on the exercise of our constitutionally guaranteed rights. It re-defines "terrorism" in broad new terms that could well include members of firearms rights and anti-abortion groups, or other such groups as determined by whoever is in power at the time. There are no prohibitions against including such information in the database as information about a person's exercise of First Amendment rights or about a person's appearance on a registry of firearms owners.
This legislation gives authority to the Secretary of Homeland Security to expand required information on driver's licenses, potentially including such biometric information as retina scans, finger prints, DNA information, and even Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) radio tracking technology. Including such technology as RFID would mean that the federal government, as well as the governments of Canada and Mexico, would know where Americans are at all times of the day and night.
There are no limits on what happens to the database of sensitive information on Americans once it leaves the United States for Canada and Mexico – or perhaps other countries. Who is to stop a corrupt foreign government official from selling or giving this information to human traffickers or even terrorists? Will this uncertainty make us feel safer?
What will all of this mean for us? When this new program is implemented, every time we are required to show our driver's license we will, in fact, be showing a national identification card. We will be handing over a card that includes our personal and likely biometric information, information which is connected to a national and international database.
H.R. 418 does nothing to solve the growing threat to national security posed by people who are already in the U.S. illegally. Instead, H.R. 418 states what we already know: that certain people here illegally are "deportable." But it does nothing to mandate deportation.
Although Congress funded an additional 2,000 border guards last year, the administration has announced that it will only ask for an additional 210 guards. Why are we not pursuing these avenues as a way of safeguarding our country? Why are we punishing Americans by taking away their freedoms instead of making life more difficult for those who would enter our country illegally?
H.R. 418 does what legislation restricting firearm ownership does. It punishes law-abiding citizens. Criminals will ignore it. H.R. 418 offers us a false sense of greater security at the cost of taking a gigantic step toward making America a police state.
I urge my colleagues to vote "NO" on the REAL ID Act of 2005.
February 12, 2005
Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.
Anyone else had to deal with this?
My mother has suffered from arthritis for years. She just turned 80 in May of this year. She's told me during the past week that her legs have gotten increasingly more painful - to the point that she can hardly walk to get to the bathroom. Today, she said if her legs aren't better the next time she goes to the doctor, she's planning to talk to him about going in a nursing home. I am really distressed about this - realistically, I've known the day was coming, since her home is not amenable to her being in a wheelchair full-time. I live 1200 miles away from her in a second floor apartment, so even if she wanted to come stay with me, that's not possible considering my current living situation. In my head, I know this may be the best solution, and that I probably couldn't change things even if I lived closer, but my heart is hurting!
This is the deal...
She and he lived in Minneapolis and me way down here. I BEGGED her not to marry him, BEGGED her, and she didn't listen. She is extremely, extremely intelligent and NEVER listens to what I say. Even her little bro, who is 16, tells her, "You should just listen to Mom, she may be a b**** but she knows what she is talking about." She is SO smart she got a 4-year full scholarship at a University in New Orleans, so now she's down here with me and he has less control, which is making him more psycho, but "sometimes" he's nice. "Sometimes he acts like he loves me." The only good thing is that she didn't get pregnant. Oooh, I am just livid. I can hardly type and I have to sit here and work for 8 hours.
I'm sorry you had to deal with that.
Dogs and cats can be criminal like that...torturing small animals just for fun.
Gross dogs though, let me tell you about gross. A friend was in bed, watching TV and having some tea and toast before taking a snooze with her dog, a Malamute, who also shares her bed. This lady was eating her toast while watching tv, not really paying attention. She thought she dropped a small piece of toast on the blanket, picked it up, and popped it in her mouth. Turned out to be a small chunklet of cat turd covered in litter, accidentally dropped there courtesy of you-know-who.
Yep, her dog, like mine, loves to sneak "kitty krunchies" out of the box and snack on them when no one's lookin'.
no big deal!
I think I would probably have a heart attack if I were ever bitten by a snake.. My dentist bought an old house that was inhabited by snakes. . he shot some, carried some out using sticks, played loud music and finally, after a couple of years, has managed to take over the house. . he has way more patience and courage than I would have.
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