im the one who started this conversation. things always lead to an argument on this board.
Posted By: me on 2006-12-13
In Reply to: Your hostility is strange. Must be hitting a nerve. - Me
but, i have friends who never started teh santa thing, and then i have friends who still practice the santa tradition. i never questioned myself. i just did as i had been raised. but i understand how some people just dont even start santa. its cool either way. and no one has to agree...everyone is different, i respect differences. but there has got to be a cut off point for puplic school teachers, to step back and leave things for teh parents. yes other kids tell them the truth about santa and, at least i have taught my children that its "bologna..if they dont believe, they dont get presents...bla bla"..so tehy have no prob blowing that off. but when their TEACHER says it, it might as well be the GOSPEL. ya know.
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Dear whoever started the toddler argument below...
and everyone else who felt they had to respond with petty bickering and hijack an otherwise amusing thread....let it gooooooo. Deep breath....there ya' go? Feel better?
Thanks.
No, hubba started at the MQ board...sm
it's a hot topic over there - over 330+ times looked at....but it can be discussed at the Main Board here:
http://forum.mtstars.com/main
These boards are monitored and you might see Administrator as the name or Goldbird (moderator). 
Started out shoes, now it is politically based, not on right board.
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I do believe in God, I don't believe he would lead (sm)
someone to have an abortion. I do think children can be born into bad homes that make them turn into criminals. I just think it needs to take a little longer to get an abortion, require some counselling about the possible emotional effects later for the girl/woman and the child's father as well. There needs to be more emphasis placed on people who want to give their children up for adoption. The whole issue just needs to be more organized and more controlled. There shouldn't be so many babies needlessly dying.
lol... at least there was no LEAD in it!
Lead in lipstick - what's next?
They mentioned brands like L'Oreal and Cover Girl. Are you starting to read labels? Ever read canned good labels - like applesauce - yep, China.
Haven't started shopping yet, but have started saving $$$
Don't have an awful lot yet, but both hubby and I are doing it (separate accounts) so we should have a good amount when we combine. My goal is to start shopping in September after my daughter's birthday and finish by Thanksgiving. That's my goal. I have never reached it! Maybe this year!
And FYI, the thread we are posting in right now was one I started, you started the earlier one. nm
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This is an argument that cannot be won between
An argument between
When is it time for Mom to step in? I've been trying to let my 3rd grade son handle this kid, which just so happens to be our next door neighbor, on his own, but lately the arguing is getting worse. They got into a *you're stupid, no you're stupid, no your mom's stupid* match today, which the bus driver had to break up. I called the other mom, but she seemed unconcerned. I just told my son not to talk to the other kid, and also asked the other mom to have her kid to the same thing with my son. Anything else I should do? Just let it go for now and see what happens? Thanks for y'all's advice...
The conversation goes something like this (sm)
"But I know I can't be a real wife to you" he says, "well that's for sure, but I do things for you that I don't want to do, so you could do things for me that you don't want to do." It makes me feel like I have to sell my body to him.
That has become a big argument in
favor of homosexuality. I understand that argument. For someone who believes that God said don't do it and they are against it for that reason, it is still morally wrong, even though it may be your perception that it doesn't hurt anybody.
Again, the issue is not fear, but opposition. That's all I'm saying. Does anybody get the point?
Talked to breeder, possible lead
I called my Misha's breeder to see if she had run into any diseases in her dogs. She figured out who the parents were and then remembered that her father, Bear, had lupus. Because his problem involved anemia, I believe she means SLE, which is the bad kind. But it does fit Misha quite well since it can cause neurological symptoms and other quirky problems she's had over the years, so I'm going to have them check her ANA. She's on prednisone right now, which is the appropriate treatment for SLE anyway. I think I can sleep now that I have a theory.
Talking to me about my smoking may lead
to burn marks on your forehead as I put out my cigarette. Oh, was that your head?
I just think you lead them there first, and let them learn for themselves what is right or wrong (sm
If you point out everyone's sin to them before they learn about God's love, they are going to run.
Some men don't see the little steps that lead to affairs...
What I am seeing that are red flags include...
1) She has chosen to discuss her relationship/marital problems with a married person of the opposite sex - this 100% creates an intimate situation between 2 people that should only exist in the relationship/marriage.
2) She has chosen to discuss her marital problems with her clients - this is not really appropriate client/professional behavior. She is looking for a personal connection with someone.
3) She has accepted a fairly large amount of money from a client given to help her personal situation and not as a professional thank you - this is setting up a deeper intimate relationship. She is looking for a provider.
4) Your husband seems to be filling a need to be important and a hero in someone's life by giving her this money (I agree with hero concept below but sex isn't necessarily the solution) - he is responding to the deeper intimate relationship. He is being the provider.
5) He is mad at you and telling you that you are being stupid about this - he is invested in this relationship enough to defend it.
For every step he takes forward, the relationship has a chance of becoming more serious. As each little step that he takes becomes okay with him, the next step is a little closer and a little more natural. While he may never get up 1 day and say I am going to have an affair, he is about halfway down the road and might not realize it yet.
I strongly suggest talking with him about it. Food and sex is a not a cure for this one. Make sure he knows that you are not comfortable with this and you are both done seeing this gal as a hairdresser.
I'd have a conversation with hubby.
Stay calm, but tell him you consider this cheating. See his reaction. He will downplay it, I'm sure. Repeat that you consider it cheating, and since you do, will he stop? Ask him what he's looking for.
If you don't like his answer, then you have learned something very important about his character. Is this somebody you want to devote your life to and have children with?
Sorry for butting in on your conversation, but
yes clipping the nails does help.
Sorry to butt in on your conversation...
But, I have very severe muscle pain and twitching and have been very interested in trying biofeedback to try to relax the muscles when they cramp. Can you tell me how/where you learned this?
Thanks!
You would have no idea what conversation was
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Your argument works against you.
Your pastor "interpreted" something else and twisted it to tell you what he wanted. The Bible does not say to not marry outside your race.
"Interpreting" things is what causes the problem.
In the Bible, God said we are all sinners. (Don't know why you are yelling.) Don't shoot the messenger.
No my argument is to people who say
The Bible is written in a way to describe our creation. It is interpreted by many to how they want it to be. I do not read it enough to know what it says about same gender sex. Does anyone know the exact scripture? If so, let's hear it. I want to hear where it says "same gender sex is a sin" in those words. Did anyone ever think that there are people who are in same gender relationships but do not have sex. There are heterosexual marriages and relationships where sex does not exist, so why couldn't that be true for a same gender relationship?
it will be a difficult conversation obviously
At 12 and 14 they are plenty old enough to be told the absolute truth. Let them have some time to process it, and then take them for a visit.
This goes toward the conversation on welfare below
Remember that conversation about single moms, welfare and foodstamps?
I was reading an article on MSNBC today. This man ended up in just the situation I was talking about. Read the whole article. Pay attention to the fact that it mentions medical bills and reverse mortgages.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29198366/
Topic of conversation here lately
I was talking about the wages being offered now for MTers and no raises, pay going down and the like just the other night. I said pretty soon looks like the MTSOs will be charging just to have the people working. I am so very glad that most of my working in years past because like the previous person said, I also did around 60,000 years ago and now more in the 20,000. My husband said this can only happen if MTers allowed it to happen. I am not caught up in this hot mess like I would have been years ago but I understand what it is like to try to raise a family and yet the money might not be there. I don’t know what it will take but the workers here 1 day will have to do something about how this profession is heading
How will our daughters learn to stand up for themselves if we do not lead by example
I have always stood up for my daughter and have tried to teach her the same and now that she is getting older I can see that it is paying off. You go girl!!!!!
I am not turning this to a religion argument- sm
I prefer not to have my child taught at a church school for personal reasons. The school they were attending squeezed in church teachings as it is, though they were not a church school, and I was not thrilled with that either. Some teachers did it more than others. As for find a teacher that "really cares" only being at a church affiliated school, that is quite a broad statement to make. At the private school my kids had been attending, the teaches were paid 25% less than what the teachers made at the public school level, which could mean 3 things, the teacher really cared and wanted a small class size to teach, (2) wanted kids that were less troublesome to teach and better behaved (3) the teacher was inadequate and could not get hired in a public school (which was the case for a few teachers where my kids were). ---There are a lot of angles to look at when considering private school religion is one of them, tuition, quality of the teachers, certification, the school board, the parent organization, the involvment expects --ours was extreme involvement which is good and bad (burnout)--I am much happier now with the kids in public school, and my 8-y/o is now actually being taught by a qualified computer teacher and not some old lady who knew nothing about computers or computer programs trying to make a few extra bucks having the kids make designs and pictures on the computer (they had a new computer teacher every year as they'd quit every year). There are pros and cons to every school, you got to find out what you want to deal with.
Never an argument and yes we both can hear and talk
and I have heard people saying marriage was hard. My husband and I do not understand this as we are extremely happily married, wouldn’t trade him for all the tea in China and I think he best fits Prince Charming. Oh, let me back that up. He is short,
probably about an inch or 2 taller than me,sorta balding on top, does not have a 6-pack so I would think for lots of females he would be overlooked. Good.
Maybe you could just bring up casually in conversation
how much you enjoy the squirrels, and how much it pains you to see when one has been run over. Don't mention the incident at all, just talk in general about squirrels. Even if she views squirrels as pests, hopefully your talking to her will make her more aware of them when she is driving.
I love squirrels, too, and fortunately I have never hit one, but I tell you, more than once I have nearly had a wreck trying NOT to hit one. They are tricky little devils!
I promise I am not trying to start an argument
but it seems to come down to choosing son's best friend or daughter's best friend. She plainly stated that the girl has been throwing herself at the boy. I would be much more concerned about who my daughter is hanging around if that is the way she conducts herself.
I just had this conversation with my hubby last night!
And he will only be turning 40 next month! He was complaining no one wants to be around him anymore, so, against better judgment I jumped in. He has become one of the most judgmental people I know anymore, no one can do anything right, and we are ALWAYS wrong. I don't care if you tell him the sky is blue, he'll tell you how stupid you are! And men say woman are hormonal....HA.
I never intended to start and argument...
just trying to put some other perspective out there. Do whatever you want, but since you asked for opinions, I gave mine. If you disagree, fine by me, that's okay. I just try to keep in mind that parents are not perfect. Mine are not and I am not. I hope that my son can forgive me my mistakes someday.
I meant "an" argument. NM
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In some locations, you can rent an exerciser instructor to lead
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sorry to interupt the conversation here, but see suggestion inside. sm
Your daughter is still young and I think as time goes by and she gets older, she may want something to do with her dad and those memories. I think if it were me, i would consider that burial plot the family has offered. Do you necessarily have to put a casket there for remains? At least your daughter could have a place to go to like a memorial for her dad one day if you did get the burial plot and put a tombstone there for her even if the remains did not go there. Can you put the remains away in storage in case someday she may want them if not the burial plot? My sister is buried within 20 miles of my home and i go there several times a year when i just need to get away for a little bit or feel down. it is the only place i really feel close to her at. i think your daughter as she gets married, matures in life, and has a family of her own might need this type of place to remember her father by and tell her children memories of their grandfather, etc.
I haven't started yet, but have started my lists.
The only reason I haven't started yet is because of $$$. But I have started some good lists for the kids and the DH. I actually have some good ideas for him this year (he is hard to buy for).
I'm like you, I love Christmas but hate the commercialism of it. We were at Costco a while back looking for Halloween costumes and they already had their Christmas stuff out. They always make me feel like I'm already late on my shopping!
I may do a lot of online shopping this year. It's easier with little ones. My 2yo is more aware this year so taking him with me to buy his own presents is out. Darn!
It always seems that Halloween (my favorite) takes forever to get here, but once it's over, then the holiday rush is on.
Happy Holidays everyone!
Yeah. I dont wear lead apron, I just stand in other
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Yes, this conversation didn't address the teacher aspect.
We got off on another related subject. Fortunately some other posters stayed focused on what you actually asked, so at least it wasn't a successful hijacking, LOL. I don't have kids, but what I remember is teachers never saying anything either way. And that is how it should be since each family has their own thing going on.
I was reading about this yesterday to settle an argument, and Patti is exactly right.
Moderator, I am not the one who continued that argument. I made one comment which was SM
deleted. I am almost in tears over this. You have made a terrible, terrible mistake. I make no crude remarks to moderators, ever, ever. I am the one who posted about the beautiful dog at the ASPCA and talk of almost nothing else. I want you to check your addresses and personaly apologize to me. You have made a grave mistake in what you jus posted. I have thanked moderators in the past and have actually posted a few days ago saying I don't understand why people have to be so mean. You need to be accurate before you accuse me.
I've heard good things and about things about taking prednisone. My mom was on it for SM
for awhile and it made her look so swollen. I sympathize with you.
Could someone tell me if there is a Christianity board as well as a prayer board (sm)
or are they one in the same? I have some faith related questions, but don't want to post on the prayer board again if it is specifically for prayer requests. I do not see a Christianity board listed. Thanks so much.
Main board, gab board, company, etc, just like here,
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lead in toys/Made in China...beware of Happy Meal toys
I watched a special on CNN yesterday about lead content in toys. I did not realize by your child simply touching a toy and putting his fingers in his mouth he could be ingesting lead. The special included a segment on a nice family that lived in a brand new home with a 2 year old and 6 month old. They both tested positive for lead. A 2 year old!!!! Worried, I went to my boy's toybox this morning and it is AMAZING how many painted toys are from China. Most notably this includes happy meal toys. I haven't gotten through one toy box and already have a trash bag full of toys. Please, please go through your children's toys. Lead ingestion can lead to brain damage. Be paranoid. Throw away all of the made in China stuff. Christmas is just weeks away--they will be getting new stuff (hopefully stuff that is paint-free!).
Your best bet is to buy made in the USA toys but even safer toys are unpainted blocks, Legos and books. A good, safe place to look for toys is www.mindware.com.
pass this on!
naw - that was the old board that did that, aka the 'other' board!
why was it here and not on the Politics board anyway?
you didnt write that conversation. shame shame
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My DD started at age 4, with sm
combo ballet and tap lessons, I think it was twice a week. The teacher was great, very encouraging, and did not give them more than they could handle. She loved practicing her steps at home. And, my heart be still, the recitals were just, well, thrilling. Adorable girls, in adorable outfits. Flowers galore from all the parents. It was so much fun for everyone. Of course, there were missteps, but they were absolutely charming. She continued until about 11, when she got interested in other things.
I just started again...
I used to do some kind of activity every day a few years ago and then got away from it and the wait has just packed on. So, I am back at it again. I have several Walk Away the Pounds DVDs (if you can ignore Leslie's annoying commentary, they are great) and if it's nice like it was last week here in central PA, I walk about a mile or so. One day last week, I did both. I want to get back into some light weights and also have a beginning yoga DVD.
Don't get me started :)
I have theories on the Jack/Claire connection too.
That was me until I started new job!
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OMG don't get me started!
Even my local newspaper gives me headaches. They're suppose to have proofreaders and have supposedly won awards and such but they definitely didn't get it for spelling. Maybe the ones giving them the awards can't spell either LOL
For example one year during the basketball season they misspelled "guard" the entire year. They would spell it "gaurd". Typos are certainly acceptable once in a while, I even had a typo once (ha ha) but this is an ongoing thing and not just with my newspaper, I see it on ABCnews.com all the time.
Why don't they Spellcheck? It won't catch all errors but it'll certainly catch all the obviously mispelled ones! 
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