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i would take this opportunity to educate your teenager and her friends sm

Posted By: LMT on 2007-05-29
In Reply to: Update, heavy sigh of relief. sm - Need advice

on cycles and ovulation. you can only get pregnant during ovulation, which is usually 10-14 days after they start that time of the month. educate them at least and give them info to research and educate themselves. of course abstinence or protection is best, but education is better compared to kids having kids too.


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yes tell them....educate them.
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If you would like to further educate yourself on this issue
INTERESTING ARTICLE
I realize this is very long, but as an expert in this field, I want to re-post information I sent, in September, to another blogger concerned about the "Best Friends" summit.

I want to emphasize that the following information is based on years of dedicated research, and decades of dog training experience. I do not simply pass along information I've heard or read somewhere...which is sadly what most people, on all sides of dog-related issues, do.

I recognize that some of your readers may find parts of it quite controversial. That's okay. Facts are facts, even if they conflict with some other [expert's] unresearched opinions.

As such, I've opted to leave those sections in, because they're vital in refuting unfounded notions about dogs, canine genetics, and dog behaviour, which lead to myths about canine aggression.

Any individual point of controversy should not take away from the overall message of fact and reason that does not support the view that any entire dog breed could be considered "dangerous".

Only once people stop repeating inaccurate information (no matter how good it may sound), will we ever hope to get to the heart of this issue, and start reducing the number of unprovoked dog bites.

The following was written "off the top of my head", in response to concerns about the Best Friends' agenda. It is not a composed article meant for publication. Please also keep in mind, it has a decidedly Canadian perspective, although there is ample U.S. data referenced.

This is what I wrote (with a few minor clarifications):

Dear (blogger),

As you know, I am an expert in Canadian dog bite statistics.

After years of research, there are a number of interesting facts I've uncovered (most of which are now widely published). As such, I've provided a synopsis here, for you and your readers. I realize it is very long, but it is a more concise collection of my years of research; right here, in one place.

The situation with unprovoked dog bites is not what nearly everyone believes it to be.

If I had one pet peeve, it is that most people merely repeat things they’ve heard or read. They don’t really know if what they’re saying is true or not. They merely “believe” those things to be true, and that’s enough for them, I guess.

You know what I say, “No matter how often or loudly a myth is repeated, it is still just a myth.”

Some people simply like agreeing with others. Some like to pretend they’re especially knowledgeable or have unique insight. Whatever the source for so many of these myths, years of research has proven the majority of beliefs I encounter about dogs are simply untrue.

Whenever discussing the issue of dangerous dogs, it's always important to remember a few key points about the dog bite statistics (especially as they pertain to Canada):

1. The most dangerous breeds in Canada are, in order: German Shepherd, Cocker Spaniel, Rottweiler, and Golden Retriever.

Why do I say this? Well, this is not dog "bite" data, but rather dog "attack" data based on the reporting information from the Canadian Hospital Injury Reporting and Prevention Program (CHIRPP).

The CHIRPP members (hospitals, and reporting physicians and nurses) have no reason to lie about the information they receive, surrounding the breed of dog that has attacked.

Why do I say "the most dangerous"? Well, because the CHIRPP data only applies to the most severe dog attacks (i.e. those injuries serious enough to require treatment in hospital). These are not little nips that can be treated with ice or even a band aid. These are severe dog bite injuries that need to be treated in hospital. The dogs that cause the most serious injuries in Canada belong to the above-mentioned breeds, more than any others.

Unlike municipal dog bite data (where any bite, no matter how inconsequential, or even against other animals, is counted), the CHIRPP data only relates to the most serious dog attacks against human victims.

2. 'Pit bulls' are rarely in the #1 spot in dog bite statistics.

Any measures to restrict or ban the #2, #5, or #37 'breed' of dog in the dog bite statistics, but not #1, is pure hypocrisy.

As faulty as the logic may be, if you're going to ban or restrict a type of dog in an attempt to reduce the number of dog bites, then it must be the ones who bite the most and/or cause the most serious injuries. Either way, that 'breed' is not 'pit bulls'.

3. There hasn't been one confirmed death of a child attributed to an unprovoked attack by a 'pit bull' in Canadian history. (There has been one unconfirmed death.)

4. The very first human fatality attributed to an unprovoked attack by a 'pit bull' in Canadian history occurred in May of 2006. Until then, every insinuation or claim about Canadians being in danger of being killed in unprovoked attacks by 'pit bulls' was totally unfounded.

(In the Ontario case in May, the dog was actually only part 'pit bull'. It was a Labrador Retriever/'pit bull' cross, and the dog's owner was the victim.) (It should be noted that there have been at least two human fatalities in Canada attributed to unprovoked attacks by Labrador Retriever crosses, yet this was the first for a 'pit bull' cross.)

5. Municipal dog bite statistics often combine reported dog bite data against both humans and other animals.

While I don’t have any problems with doing so, those citing combined statistics must be aware that the majority of the dog bite reports aren’t against people. To imply otherwise is, at best, misleading and, at worst, dishonest.

For example: Toronto has arguably the largest municipal ‘pit bull’ population in Canada. In 2004, 12 of the city’s estimated 30,000+ ‘pit bulls’ had been reported for biting. (That’s about 0.04% of the population, by the way; leaving 99.96% of Toronto’s ‘pit bulls’ completely innocent of such allegations.) However, the majority of those reported bites were against other animals. Only 2 of the 12 could even begin to be called “attacks” against humans.

So, when 2 out of at least 30,000 dogs of a loosely-defined type are involved in attacks in an entire year, is that really justification for not just trying to ban or restrict them, but for making sweeping generalizations about all the rest?

6. No matter what dog ‘breed’ tops the dog bite statistics, the vast majority of bites are still attributed to other breeds.

To better help people understand the absurdity of a breed-based approach to dog bite prevention, let’s imagine that ‘pit bulls’ are responsible for a virtually unheard of 10% of bites in some Canadian city. That still leaves 90% of biting dogs unaffected by any breed-based approach.

This is the primary reason why breed bans have been such a colossal failure wherever they’ve been tried. The majority of biting and attacking dogs are not affected, so their owners are free to continue to behave negligently.

7. All dogs can bite.

There is no such thing as a breed of dog that has never bitten, never attacked, never maimed, or never killed (a person or other animal).

8. It is the size of the victim, not the dog, which best predicts severity of injury in an attack.

While even the very smallest dog breeds have killed humans, the very largest dog breeds are rarely involved in attacks.

9. Adults are rarely seriously injured by dogs of any size, while children are the most common dog bite victims. Their attackers range from the very smallest to the very largest dog breeds.

10. The dogs actually involved in attacks are not genetically related in any meaningful way.

This goes right to the heart of common, yet completely unscientific, baseless claims about allegedly inheriting aggressive behaivours or being bred for aggression.

In short, the dogs involved in attacks are not closely genetically related to one another. This tends to refute the idea that the attack was due to some aberrant inherited gene.

Think about it. What could the Dalmatian that bit off a boy’s nose 10 years ago and the Golden Retriever that left 76 stitches in a girl’s face, just a few years ago, possibly have in common, from a genetic standpoint? Is anyone really trying to suggest they’re genetically related, and both inherited some sort of as-yet-undiscovered “attack gene”?

Even the Rottweiler that killed a child in New Brunswick and the Rottweiler that killed a child in Ontario don’t share any common ancestors in their pedigrees; making the whole notion of a shared genetic cause for attacks completely ludicrous.

Put simply, the individual dogs involved in unique attack incidents are not genetically related in any way other than that which makes them dogs.

11. Psychology defines aggression as learned behaviour.

I’ve been researching dog biting incidents since 1999. I have yet to find a dog involved in an attack that didn’t have a known history of aggressive behaviour.

Aggression has to be learned and practiced before it is perfected. I have yet to come across a case of a dog that attacked unprovoked, without ever having barked menacingly, growled, lunged, snapped, or what have you.

This completely refutes the (quite silly) urban myth that “some dogs just turn”, or that dogs can be THIS unpredictable. (i.e. friendly family pet with no history of ever having behaved aggressively one minute; then savage, unprovoked attacker the next)

As an experienced dog trainer (one who has spent many of those years SUCCESSFULLY re-training aggressive dogs), I can attest that dogs are not all that unpredictable. Sure, they might do something out of the ordinary, every now and then. However, for a dog to suddenly behave aggressively in a way that is truly threatening or injurious, it must have practiced those behaviours in the past. This is the nature of all learned behaviours. Only practice makes perfect. (I can elaborate more on that, if you wish.)

It’s as though people can’t imagine any other form of aggressive behaviour, other than biting. To help them along, I must point out that aggressive behaviours follow a fairly predictable scale of escalation. It may begin with staring or raised hackles (all merely indicating discomfort with a situation). That can lead to raised lips, growling, stiffened body posture, menacing barking, lunging, and attempted bites. Long before an unwarranted bite ever occurs, there are a litany of warning signs that the dog will eventually bite.

Even the most die-hard dog fighting breeders admit they have to start their puppies very young (often at six weeks), to turn them into superior fighters. When asked why they have to spend so much effort training their (allegedly bred-to-fight) dogs, none can provide a scientifically or practically sensible response. Most use made-up terminologies to emphasize what they believe are inherited traits, while playing down the daily training they force on the dogs. Yet it is clear that, without this ongoing encouragement, the dogs don’t become proficient fighters.

I’ve researched so many cases where the owner has allegedly claimed the attack was the first time the dog behaved aggressively, I now pay little heed to such statements. The neighbours almost always tell a very different story.

To use a more famous case as an example, little Courtney Trempe was killed by a dog the owner claimed had never behaved aggressively before. The owner went on to say he “couldn’t have known” the dog would attack, because it had never tried to bite a person. Well, it turns out the dog had not just attacked previously, but had actually killed two neighbourhood dogs in the past. That is an aggressive dog, by anyone’s standards.

But it does bring me to my next point…

12. Aggression is aggression is aggression. The idea that aggression can be species-specific is not based in any kind of scientific, statistical, or practical data. It seems to be little more than wishful thinking. Those perpetuating this notion tend not to have even attempted to validate this theory in any way.

There is a very disturbing myth being promulgated by a number of groups that should know better than to perpetuate unfounded myths. The idea that aggression towards other dogs is markedly different than aggression towards humans is scientifically and statistically baseless. (But I realize a lot of people learned this myth, and repeat it as though it is true.) I have to point out that the real-world data, in no uncertain terms, clearly refutes such theories.

Of the dogs involved in their first aggression incident towards a human, the vast majority had behaved aggressively towards other animals (usually other dogs) in the past.

Of the dogs involved in their first bites against humans, where the dog had no history of aggression towards humans, the majority had behaved aggressively towards other animals (usually other dogs) in the past.

Of the dogs whose first bite against a person resulted in that individual’s death, and where the dog had no history of aggressive behaviour towards humans, every one of the cases I’ve investigated involved dogs that had behaved aggressively towards other dogs in the past. (see the Trempe case example, above)

So, while some aggressive dogs may, for now, limit their aggressive behaviour to other animals, it in no way guarantees it will remain that way forever.

Most, if not all, the first-time human biters had only behaved aggressively towards other animals, in the past. Their owners, having believed the myth that aggression is species-specific in dogs, are always "surprised" when their dog-aggressive dogs bite someone.

Again, dog-aggression could remain contained, for a number of social and environmental reasons. Statistically, these dogs are equally as likely to bite a human, one day. Dogs with histories of aggressive behaviour (towards either humans or other animals) are almost exclusively involved in unprovoked biting incidents.

13. Nearly all unprovoked dog bites would not be prevented by dog control laws.

Since dog control laws typically only apply to the conduct of owners (and their dogs) when they’re on public property, it completely negates their ability to affect the circumstances that lead to the vast majority of unprovoked dog bites.

When it comes to total dog bite numbers, almost all take place on the owner’s property.

When it comes to reported dog bite numbers, the overwhelming majority take place on, or directly adjacent to, the owner’s property.

Supervised dogs in a public place account for less than 1% of all bites.

This makes public restraint laws especially ineptly-aimed and ineffective in reducing dog bites.

Most unprovoked biting incidents involve (typically an unsupervised) dog known to the victim. Whether or not the victim knows the dog, the bite usually takes place on the owner’s property (where the dog is either loose or tethered), or directly adjacent to the owner’s property (where the dog was either allowed to venture off the owner’s property, or “escaped”).

Very few unprovoked biting incidents involve a supervised dog. Simple supervision appears to be very effective in preventing dog bites.

When bites take place far from the owner’s property, the dogs involved were most likely loose, roaming, unsupervised dogs.

Simply put, public restraint laws don’t target the situations that actually lead to unprovoked dog bites.

14. Cities that address the real causes of unprovoked dog bites (i.e. lack of supervision & lack of socialization and training) are hugely successful in reducing the number of dog bites.

Calgary is the best example we have in Canada. They reduced dog bites by 70%, even during a period where the population doubled.

Calgary’s approach was to first enforce existing laws. They strictly enforce licensing, and boast a licensing rate of 90% (compared to most cites’ 10-20%). In this way, they have a better handle on the dog population in their community, which helps in making decisions and drawing conclusions.

They also have a zero tolerance policy for acts of aggression. (Something I’m personally totally in favour of. Dogs are not weapons, and anyone who unethically uses a dog for that purpose shouldn’t be allowed to own one.) Any report of aggressive behaviour of any kind results in a visit from animal control and a warning.

City officials are clear, in that they agree one of the biggest aspects of their success was the creation of ample off-leash areas for dogs to be exercised, socialized, and trained off-leash. With reportedly the largest number of off-leash parks in Canada, it’s no coincidence that Calgary also has the lowest dog bite rate of any major city in Canada.

Several years ago, I made this prediction, “When the studies are done, we’ll find the cities with the best access to off-leash parks are also the cities with the lowest percentage of dog bites.”

Calgary certainly suggests my prediction was correct.

Finally, Calgary increased the penalties for some transgressions. Combined with increased enforcement, the large percentage of licensed dogs, along with the higher fines, has led to Calgary’s animal control department becoming financially self-sufficient.

It’s win, win, win, in Calgary, all because they addressed the real causes for unwarranted aggression in dogs.

15. Breed-specific approaches to dog bite prevention have failed.

There isn’t one region that can claim a reduction in the number, or severity, of dog bites as a direct result of banning a breed of dog.

In Winnipeg, officials promoting the city’s long-time ban on ‘pit bulls’ often misleads the public by stating “’pit bull’ attacks” have been eliminated. Well of course they’ve been eliminated. ‘Pit bulls’ are banned in Winnipeg. You don’t have to be rocket scientist to figure that out. There are also no wooly mammoth attacks or saber toothed tiger attacks, either.

When Winnipeg banned ‘pit bulls’, German Shepherds, and their crosses, were far and away the most common biters in that city. After ‘pit bulls’ were banned, there was an average of close to 50 more bites per year, for the following decade. In addition to the rise in overall dog bites, the number of bites by German Shepherds and crosses, Labrador Retrievers and crosses, Terriers crosses, and Rottweilers and crosses, skyrocketed.

Kitchener is another example. The city of Kitchener banned ‘pit bulls’ in 1997, without ever having done an analysis on the city’s dog bite data. Only after ‘pit bulls’ were banned was it discovered they were #8 in the 1996 dog bite statistics, “right behind #7 Poodles,” as it is commonly said. In what could only be a deliberate attempt to mislead the public, officials immediately halted the collection of dog bite data by breed.

Even so, while we don’t know which breeds have been doing the biting, we can still determine if the ‘pit bull’ ban has been effective in reducing dog bites in Kitchener. Every animal bite is required, by law, to be reported to the Medical Officer of Health. With a sleuthing, it was discovered that dog bites haven’t been reduced at all, since ‘pit bulls’ were banned in 1997. They’ve remained pretty constant.

According to a BBC report, hospitalizations due to dog bites rose 25% after ‘pit bulls’ were banned in England.

Officials from most of the cities that have repealed breed-specific laws have used terms like “ineffective” and “unenforceable”.

16. All dog breeds are genetically identical. Even DNA can’t distinguish between a Chihuahua, a ‘pit bull’, a Great Dane, and a wolf. (Yes, while there are occasional claims of in-roads, in this area, using "markers", all dogs are still considered genetically identical.)

Those rare individuals with the personal expertise necessary to accurately attempt to determine a dog’s breed based on appearance alone typically are not employed in the various occupations charged with enforcing most breed-specific legislation. This leaves the subjective determination of a dog’s breed to the very inexpert animal control and shelter workers. In some cases, police officers must decide the dog’s breed, yet not one police officer is trained to (accurately) differentiate between dog breeds.

The same can be said of veterinarians. A veterinary license infers expertise in diagnosing and treating illness, for the most part. Neither practicing veterinarians nor veterinary students are required to prove any expertise in breed identification in order to obtain a license. Any expertise an individual veterinarian may possess, in terms of breed identification, or even dog training and behaviour, was most likely acquired outside the requirements of licensing.

Because the people enforcing breed-specific laws are not dog breed identification experts, the likelihood of misidentification is unconscionably great. (In Ontario, several dogs have already been misidentified, under breed-specific ordinances.)

17. "The public" is not in danger of unprovoked dog bites.

For instance, every recent dog-related fatality in Canada has involved dogs and victims residing within the same home. The same could be said for the majority of bites and attacks, as well.

This is very important information, in terms of quelling the public’s hysteria. “The public” is rarely involved in unprovoked biting incidents. Most bite victims knew the dog and were voluntarily interacting with it at the time of the bite. Most bite victims are bitten by their own dogs.

If you don’t own a dog, your risk of being bitten is very low. If you also don’t interact with dogs, or live next door to a dog that is routinely left unsupervised, or one that is known to behave aggressively, then your risk of being bitten is virtually nil.

Even when we don’t account for contributing factors (such as proximity) you are still more than 100 times more likely to be hit by lightning than killed by a dog. (In Canada, the likelihood of being killed by a dog you don’t know or live with is virtually zero.)

18. ‘Pit bulls’ are, if anything, less likely to bite.

In the U.S., ‘pit bulls’ are estimated to make up 9% of the dog population, yet they typically only make up 2-4% of dog bites, nationwide. In case your readers don’t understand what that means, it would be expected, purely on population alone, that 9% of dog bites would be attributed to ‘pit bulls’. Since less than half (even a third) of bites are reportedly caused by ‘pit bulls’, this suggests they’re much less likely to bite than should be expected.

19. ‘Pit bulls’ are less likely to kill than people.

In the U.S., even extremely conservative estimates suggest that only 0.00002% of the ‘pit bull’ population has killed. This is much lower than the human population (men, in particular).

Whatever someone’s views about ‘pit bulls’ might be, it can’t change the fact that at least 99.99998% have never, and will never, kill anyone.

20. 99.9% of all dogs, from all breeds, will never be involved in an attack.

Huge generalizations about dog breeds is not only unscientific, it’s not even practically accurate. I like to put it this way, “If any ‘breed’ were genetically programmed to attack, certainly more than 0.1% of them would.”

21. The media.

While I don’t want to get into a protracted discussion about the lack of honesty in media reports of dog bites, I will summarize by saying that reviewing media reports of dog biting incidents is not “research” because the media is extremely biased in regards to which stories it chooses to cover.

The media reports dog biting incidents involving ‘pit bulls’ to the near-exclusion of all others. In addition, they use other tactics to exaggerate the details, such as salacious language, or references to other dog biting incidents involving ‘pit bulls’.

There are countless incidents of media bias. In Ontario, a ‘pit bull’ killed another dog, and it was front-page news, that reappeared in the media for weeks. The owner was swiftly taken to jail. Around the same time, two Labs killed another dog, and attacked a ‘pit bull’ without any real media interest. The owner of the Labs was not charged with any serious offence.

There are other blatant incidents, as well. One weekend, two off-leash dogs (one of them being a ‘pit bull’) got into a squabble, and every major media agency reported the incident. That same weekend, a child was mauled by the family’s Golden Retriever, and not one media outlet covered the story.

A child was mauled so savagely by his grandfather’s Labrador Retriever, he required treatment at two Ontario hospitals. Only one media outlet covered this story in just one broadcast.

Again, relying on the media for the facts of dog biting cases is not advised.

Naturally, I could go on. But there you have a pretty good primer (off the top of my head), regarding the facts about the who, what, where, when, how, and why dogs bite unprovoked.

Because I kept encountering the same story, over and over and over again, in my research of dog biting incidents, I was led to create a dog bite prevention strategy that deals with the factors common to nearly all the cases I’d investigated.

I made it simple, and easy to remember. And I made sure not to include anything that would require an individual to develop some kind of expertise. People who don’t own dogs or aren’t experienced dog trainers still have a right to protect themselves from unprovoked dog bites. The following is what I call, the “3 Simple Steps to Dog Bite Prevention”:

1. Avoid unsupervised dogs.
2. Never leave children unsupervised with dogs.
3. Ensure our own dogs are properly trained and adequately supervised at all times.

By following these “3 Simple Steps”, we could virtually eliminate unprovoked dog bites in Canada.

It is not just important, but vital, to know what ACTUALLY causes dogs to bite unprovoked, if we ever hope to reduce those numbers. Obtusely theorizing about possible causes or solutions is not helpful and, as in the case of breed-specific legislation, is often harmful to both humans and dogs.

If you would like more information, please don’t hesitate to contact me.

Sincerely,

Marjorie Darby
Founder,


Welcome to the 'Land of Opportunity!'
All day long I type reports on kids having all these expensive procedures, psychiatric care, special services, etc. And it's not hard to read between the lines when the doc describes the Social History, to see that most of them are not here legally.
Use this as an opportunity to show everyone your new home ONLY -
Do not register. If people ask about bringing something leave it up to them or just say all you want is their company. It is really in bad taste to register for gifts in this instance. I have never been invited to a housewarming where people told us they were registered or asked for gifts. I bring a bottle of nice wine in a wine bag or a bunch of pretty flowers for the house and have never felt out of place with that. Just MHO.
So glad you had the opportunity to make amends
with your sister. My brother and I were on the outs for a while but have since made up. I still don't agree with most of the things he does or doesn't do but at least there will be some peace of mind if something should happen to him.
not a kitty, but i take any opportunity to share my babies
Dont know what's wrong with Gary but hope he's okay :)

I miss my pups very very much. I am in South Carolina for a few months and they are back home with "daddy" in Nevada. I seriously miss them tremendously...

oh man i just saw the uploaded pic (excuse the mess, we had just moved in) and got all teary... i REALLY miss them. isn't that silly...
What you describe is beautiful! Every child should have the opportunity
to grow up in such an environment, and also grandmothers.
It's all about love and compromising.
as a teenager those were the best sm
I just remembered that it really sucked waiting for the dough "to rise". Never really saw any difference but my BFF and I loved them. We also loves Pizza rolls, couldn't get enough of them.
this isn't about you, and your're not a teenager
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we used to do something similar when I was a teenager sm
(back when the earth was still cooling,LOL). We took a block of cream cheese and poured Tiger Sauce over it. Sure was good!! Don't know if Tiger Sauce is even still available but it would probably be along where the hot sauce is in the grocery store.
Yes. Make your teenager responsible for as much as she can pay for.
and maybe a little more. Don't make it easy. Make sure that she has to work a little (not so much that grades suffers), has to budget, and plan and take the responsibility of driving seriously. This is more than likely the most dangerous thing your child has done so far her life. Make sure she understands that. It's not a social thing, a drive-around-with-your-friends thing. Preparing a young person for driving responsibilities is life and death.
Unfortunately, in the last three yeas, I've been to three funerals for teenage drivers -- all of whom were out of control in every aspect of their lives. Our state does not allow children to become licensed drivers until age 16-1/2. Our house rule was age 17. We did pay for the driver's ed, because it was pricey, our sons truly could not afford it, and we wanted our boys to have ever chance to learn to drive safely. Even though we taught them ourselves, as well, sometimes kids hear better what total strangers say to them! Also, I had a rule during permit driving sessions with my boys. They were never allowed to argue with me while we drove together. I was the teacher. I knew more than them. No arguing over anything, or else I terminated the lesson, car was pulled over, I drove home and that was the end until I felt we were ready for another driving lesson. That rule drove home how serious a responsibility driving is. I only had to do it once to one of my sons.
My oldest was lucky enough to inherit is grandfather's pristine 1991 Toyota (38,000 original miles) when pop-pop no longer could drive. It's a decent, dependable car. My son pays for repairs and gas. We pay for the insurance at this point, simply because we live in a big eastern city, and insurance is sky high. But, our son is also paying his own college tuition, so I have no problem helping him out with the insurance on his car.
This is a big deal. Make sure your daughter grasps the gravity of the responsibility. Don't argue with her about anything. These decisions have to be made by the parents, because it's a health and safety issue for your daughter and everyone else on the road with her.
comparing yourself to a teenager makes you look...
and you don't know how to put "no message" on outside of your post, so we don't have to waste time clicking to open your message just to see there is no message!
I think she said in her post that it was a teenager in her neighborhood.
My daughter would do it for that amount just for spending money. I wish I could have someone come in just once a month to do major cleaning. My daughter and I with the help of my husband do cleaning every Saturday with of course spot cleaning during the week, but just once a month would be great to do the things I hate doing.
Need advice on teenager vehicles......sm
Okay, it is time to get my 16-yo her own vehicle.  I intend to get her an older vehicle (less than 10 yrs old), pay cash for it as I don't want payments for she or myself.  How does everyone handle with kids what percentage you make them pay for etc?  I want her to learn responsibility and appreciate the vehicle, just by my preference would prefer to pay in cash (less than $5000, hopefully).  Do I make her responsible to pay her own insurance or half of it?  By her own gas?  or should I make her buy the car from me?   Not sure what everyone else does so I would like some ideas as I said, I don't want to just give her everything in life.  I want to make her earn it, take care of it, appreciate it, and be responsible, but don't want to go overboard either.  She is in 10th grade, A/B student (Currently 11th place in class and working towards bumping up to be in top ten by the time she graduates).  She is very well behaved, never a troubled child.  She does have a lot of activities that would prevent her from making much of any income with an after school job.  She is varsity cheerleader (off season just now, but will practice all summer), plays tennis, basketball/baseball manager, takes tumbling classes 1 night a week.  So she is very busy in a good way.  She would also be driving siblings to school for me and running errands occasionally.  Anyone care to share what you do/have done or have any ideas/suggestions?
When I was a teenager my mother had mono
My dad and the doctor (IMO) ingored the problem until she had such a high fever that she was halucinating. At that point I informed my dad that he had two choices, take her to the hospital or call 911. He took her in and they were all amazed at how bad she was. I know they gave her some kind of antibiotic.

I could have shot my dad. He is a total hypochondriac and yet he would let her go that far.
When I was a teenager I loved babysitting
There were a couple of incredible kids right across the street that I often babysat for. I had them one New Year's Eve and I had planned games and made cupcakes for them to decorate. We had a blast.

There was a family behind us that had a 4yr old daughter and 2yr old twin sons. I only babsat for them once. I took my purse with me when I went to their house and one of the kids tried to get into it so I put it on top of the fridge. Walked into the kitchen a couple of minutes later and found one of the kids standing on a chair trying to get to my purse. Found another kid in the upstairs kids bathroom with an entire bottle of shampoo poured out all over the throw rug. I finally got them calmed down and was reading to them while sitting on the floor in the den. I have no idea how this happened but within a matter of a couple of minutes I was "accidentally" poked in both eyes. I spent 3 hours with these "kids" and got $5.00. After that every time the mom called I was busy.

When I was a teenager, my Dalmatian chewed
both of the rear tail-lights off my dad's new Lincoln Continental. She also once ate an entire, 6-foot leather leash. Taking her for a walk was like going out with a vacuum-cleaner with legs!
You sound like a little teenager with your response
You were the one who was giving a free ticket to a man freaking out after a childbirth. There is not that much freaking in the world. Grow up! You should have listened more closely to the adults when you were smaller. Your post was ridiculous.
I wish to share with you my experience as a teenager.

Hi T:   Your story sounds a little like what happened to me as a teenager.  Well really I was a virgin until 17, but after that I went through a period when I declared my independence -- or at least I thought I was.  You are so right though about girls waiting and they should not just go for sex with the 1st boy they meet.   I really feel sorry for girls who get caught up in this lifestyle, thinking to be popular with the boys, they have to do this.  Where are their mothers and dads who should guide them and give them enough confidence that they can just walk away and not worry if they are popular or not. 


I find this behavior very sad and disappointing for the girls involved.  Of course now that I am much older and I realize how foolish this was for me.  But there is still a hypocritical element to our society and boys want to get as many of the girls they can, but in the end they do not respect them.  What a vicious circle it is as a teenager.  I am just glad that is all behind me, as I am up in age near retirement. 


If I had a chance to talk to the young girls, I know what I would say.  You must value yourself and avoid any young men who would degrade you in any way.  I just wish I had a mother to be there for me at that very difficult time in my life.  That would make all the difference in the world.  


P.S.  T do not be too harsh on yourself.  I think I know where you were coming from (mind set).  This is a painful part of my past, which I have always wished to cover up.   It is healing to bring it out in the open.   


I wish to share with you my experience as a teenager.

Hi T:   Your story sounds a little like what happened to me as a teenager.  Well really I was a virgin until 17, but after that I went through a period when I declared my independence -- or at least I thought I was.  You are so right though about girls waiting and they should not just go for sex with the 1st boy they meet.   I really feel sorry for girls who get caught up in this lifestyle, thinking to be popular with the boys, they have to do this.  Where are their mothers and dads who should guide them and give them enough confidence that they can just walk away and not worry if they are popular or not. 


I find this behavior very sad and disappointing for the girls involved.  Of course now that I am much older and I realize how foolish this was for me.  But there is still a hypocritical element to our society and boys want to get as many of the girls they can, but in the end they do not respect them.  What a vicious circle it is as a teenager.  I am just glad that is all behind me, as I am up in age near retirement. 


If I had a chance to talk to the young girls, I know what I would say.  You must value yourself and avoid any young men who would degrade you in any way.  I just wish I had a mother to be there for me at that very difficult time in my life.  That would make all the difference in the world.  


P.S.  T do not be too harsh on yourself.  I think I know where you were coming from (mind set).  This is a painful part of my past, which I have always wished to cover up.   It is healing to bring it out in the open.   


When you have friends - it's good. But when you don't have friends it's

REALLY GOOD!!!


I swear, I have this one friend who just gets mad at me stupid stuff.  I told her a few weeks ago that I could probably go out this sat. but now I can't make it (just dinner). So, I emailed her and told her I can't go. She's upset.  Thinks I should not have made plans in the first place. Well, things come up.


Why are people (women) so catty? Immature?


Are there any women out there who can: Forgive, understand, not get offended because I am not perfect? If so, I'd like to meet you.  I highly doubt she exists though.


Bulemic teenager - advice needed...sm

I've suspected for a while that my soon to be 16 stepdaugher is bulemic but her dad doesn't believe it.  Right after she eats a meal she goes to the bathroom and stays a long time.  She has lost about 40 lbs over the past year.  Today while doing laundry I found a note that she wrote and says:


Eat & Die.  No eat for a week (in & out)  Lose 10 lbs.  Eat again.


I am going to share this with my hubby when he calls while on a lunch break from work.  Perhaps now he'll believe me.   I've called the pediatrician's office and left a message for them to call me with the name of a psychologist treating eating disorders to take her to. 


Any ideas of how to handle him if he still is in denial?  I'm sure the stepdaughter will deny the eating disorder... she did before when I asked her about it.  Overall she & I do have a good relationship but this is an area I know she's not being honest about. 


 


 


teenager vomiting each month without menses

Hey all.  Need some advice.  I have a neice who has started vomiting violently every month, but has yet to begin menstruating.  We are thinking it may be related to her period/onset of her period.  i have heard of this somewhere, but for the life of me cannot remember what I heard.  Any information/advice? 


Also, anyone here that can recommend a good ob/gyn in the Lexington, Kentucky area? 


Thanks in advance.


HC


she absolutely can be judged harshly; any teenager should be for this reason
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My teenager has learned a text messaging lesson...sm

A couple of weeks ago while at drama practice one of her peers asked if she could use her cell phone both days of practice as she didn't have her cell phone with her.  My daughter let this other kid use her phone and didn't pay attention to the fact she was staying on it the entire time of the practices (the other kid only had a couple of lines).  When my daughter walked over to her her phone she saw the other kid texting - and we don't have text messaging as part of our plan.


The bill arrived yesterday and this other child ran up $63.40 in text charges because there's a 20 cent/kb/message fee.  My daughter isn't happy that she has to pay this bill out of her babysitting money but I reminded her that her phone is her responsibility and I'm not paying her bill.  She swears she'll never let anyone use her phone again.  I do hope she's learned her lesson!


As a teenager, I worked as a waitress...it sure was a school of hard knocks. LOL.
Waitresses have one of the toughest jobs.  A good waitress deserves all of her 20% tips.  Not enought money, IMHO.
Our teenager learned a valuable lesson today about cell phones....

She got a new cell phone last month and downloaded a bunch of ringtones, even though I reminded her that each one costs money + the transfer fee, which the system prompts you for as we don't have the internet plan for the cell phone (don't do text messaging either).   Well, she ignored the prompts about the 3 cents per kilibite fee and size of the files alert when she accepted the downloads she selected.  To make a long story short..... her bill for her downloads is right at $60. 


She is crying that she has to pay this bill but I'm not working overtime because she ignored my telling her about the costs and accepted the charges.  This will teach her a lesson on responsibility.  She was expecting the bill to be about $20.  She'll be babysitting up a storm this next month to pay this bill!


can buy 4 items for teenager for same price buy 8 items for younger.
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they are not rough looking; they are just skateboarders; all teenager skateboarders I know
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Friends of Our's..

are separating and might end up divorced uggg.


They are the couple that we went on our summer vacation with. They have no kids luckily.


SHE is unhappy and has been since June I guess. He has been talking to hubby about it all on MSN Messenger and asking for advice. It has to do with her Religion, she goes to the church where they meet in homes and she wears skirts. I can't think of what she calls it but he isn't into that Religion and refuses to go to church with her and that is causing problems.

Anyway, she won't be happy unless she finds a guy in her church, that way, they will go together, ya know?


I feel bad for them but it might be for the best I don't know.


DH saw it with friends and they all
loved it. He reports it is very good and very gory. Critics hated it, but it is raking in the money because fans love it. It is more of a guy movie, but that doesn't mean a lot of us gals won't like it too. DH and his friends all researched the subject before going, they were that excited.
ooh, I never said he and I were friends...

I tried being *friends* with him for about 8-9 years after but he was never my friend (nor his own friend) - but with passive-aggressives - if they don't want to change, forget about them *cooperating* - WE EVEN DID THERAPY prior to the divorce but it was evident to the therapist that he was lying and playing games.....power tripping games too.


No, what I meant is he is in a better place today in HIS life, kids are doing their thing and communicating with both parents, and my life is great because I'm FREE....for me, it's all about freedom and having nobody trying to *control* me.


Good luck in your choices, they are not easy choices by any stretch of the imagination.... 


Where are her friends?
This young woman is in pain and is hurting. She needs help. Where are her friends? Instead of demonizing her, her mother, K-Fed, father - is he in the picture - former pastor, someone should be with her and get her to go into intensive private therapy. The girl is melting down in front of the world and no one is trying to help her.

I don't condone illegal drug use or misuse of legal drugs, but I really don't care if her problems were caused by drugs or something else. She is a human being in pain and needs help, not ridicule or judgment.

Where are Nicole, Paris, Lindsay, all the blondettes were ready to party with her in order to get their own picture in the tabloids? Where are the publicity agents, talent agents, etc., who made thousands of dollars off Britney's career? Someone needs to step up to the plate for her.
I should add that Pam and I were friends (sm)
not just in Bunco but had gone many places together, spent lots of time at each other's homes, had our children play together, etc.
best friends?
How many of you have bonded with a person...ala best friend...out of your immediate family?...to the point where you trust this person more so than a family member?

I have friends..not close...I'm close to only my sister...

I know one acquaintance that spends all her time with her best friend...I mean they have morning coffee together..take family trips..am and pm visits...I don't know that I could be that close to someone without it bugging me abit even though she was a good friend...

Confusing maybe..just thought I'd throw it out there..its a thought I had...

If they are your friends
Then they will take your feelings into consideration also. If you don't want to hang out, you don't want to hang out, no harm in that.
that's what my guy friends said!
and then nicely they of course told me that's why I wouldn't be allowed to live there.

haha
that's what my guy friends said!
and then nicely they of course told me that's why I wouldn't be chosen to live there.

haha
yes he does and he says his friends liked it
because he thinks his teeth look like hers now. It's my issue not his, thank goodness!!!

I guess it's because his teeth don't cascade naturally. He did have a palatial expander, which may have something to do with it.
Friends....sm
I have 3 friends who have been wonderful over the years. One I have known nearly my whole life, one for almost 20 years and the other for about 10 years. Then I have my sister and 2 female cousins who are absolutely 3 of my most favorite people in the entire world. I am truly blessed.
friends
My sister is still very good friends with her best friend from high school and it is cool to see them get so old. I am the older sister and in my head they were goofy, skinny teenagers, and now they have all these kids and it is amazing. Me and my best friend in high school did not last past me having a baby. She never married and I guess she felt like we did not have anything to talk about anymore.
Friends
I've run into quite a few of these type of individuals through the years.  Oftentimes, it turned out to be a family member of the boss, owner, etc., or someone who got the job through a friend, OR someone who just happens to look good.  It seems that experience and talent/ability are not the qualities that get the job nowadays.
I agree for friends
I have a very good friend who lives across the street and she's welcome to come over whenever she wants. We usually just knock and go right in. I do look out the window though if the doorbell rings and I usually don't answer it if it's someone I don't know.
My kids all believe, even though some of their friends say otherwise.
It probably helps that they are "free thinkers." They have their own thoughts and opinions and aren't usually swayed by others. Also, one of them is pretty popular in his school and very much a leader there, so many of the kids believe what he has to say over a lot of the other kids, even about Santa!

I think I've gone out of my way to teach my kids not to follow others' belief patterns just for the sake of being like everyone else. They really don't care much if they stand out, and it's actually worked to their advantage. They are often looked up to because they're strong enough to be different. :)

By the way, they feel sorry for the kids who don't believe in Santa.
did you accept it and are you friends?
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Well, she can't just not let her child have friends over! (sm)
That's just not realistic. So the whole family should just hide in their house because of her husband's issues? I have to disagree with that.
tell us about your furry friends.
We would love to hear! 
No famous HS friends, but...

my FIL worked as a security guard for several Elvis Presley's Memphis events.  He was a sheriff department reserve officer and they were chosen regularly for Elvis' appearances. 


My former step-mother owned a night club in Port Arthur, Texas, where Janis Joplin and her band played regularly...before she was famous.


My parents assembled the dryers/heaters that cleaned up the radiation spilled at the Three Mile Island accident in the seventies.



oh, he realizes he does it, and he does not do that to his friends, right?
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One of my very best friends had this done and is so very happy she did.
She had a really horrible time before the ablation, including chronic anemia. (Her hemoglobin had fallen to 5.4 at one point!)

She had this done last year and says it's the best decision she ever made. The procedure wasn't bad, recovery was quick, and she's had no problems, and no periods, since then.
Losing friends
When I lost my first one (my cat BB) I tried to keep him hanging on as long as possible but when I talked to him about it he let me know he wanted me to let him go and I held him when I took him to the vet and he purred the whole time.  He knew he didn't have to suffer any more. The really hard stuff only lasts for 3 days, then you feel better every day.  It's lots easier after you get the ashes back, you feel like they're home.  On my hearth I have 4 late cats, 1 late husband, 1 late brother-in-law and my late mother.  I never really feel like they're gone.  I feel for you, hang in there.