i care about child abuse, welfare fraud, and
Posted By: sm on 2008-04-17
In Reply to: About polygamist compound - the polygamy doesn't - bother me-forced marriages do (sm)
dumping of young males to the streets, so they lessen the competition for the multi-wife thing. This is all well-documented. This is not about just polygamy -- which is also against the law, but its the abuse of children and abuse of our welfare system -- all under the banner of religion. If it was just about men taking multiple ADULT wives, the government would not likely have stepped in to even enforce that law.
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Abuse of food stamps/welfare is a MAJOR
nm
"The parents", the "older man". The welfare of child
tfd
Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.
We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.
I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.
Child abuse
That's your opinion - and pedofilia - obviously you did not BF or have a good bond with your children. Do you also consider it child abuse that I did not use disposable diapers? What about the fact that I worked as a wet nurse? Some things are just natural - You should read the book, The Family Bed - BF may be looked upon differently in the US - but that is only cultural - and I do not bend to cultural issues - I did as I pleased - and no one else cared or ever even discouraged me from BF my son as long as I did. Unless you've been there - you do not understand - sorry for you.
Child abuse, hardly
My child was circumcised years ago, did fine. Years later my 2 male grandchildren were not circumcised and as they were aging were running into lots of trouble, could not retract the foreskin because as they grew, so did the foreskin, could not keep the penis clean and finally at an older age (when more painful for them) had to get circumcised. Well known fact, smegma collects there and causes infection and could lead to worst things than just infection, has been linked to penile cancer.
no, not child abuse. what will they think of next? SM
How about - combing the tangles out of your daughter's hair (ouch)?
or ripping off a band aide?
or making them eat their vegies?
It's only child abuse if you hit them hard enough
check with your CPS. There is a BIG difference between spanking and beating.
I really feel that what she is doing is child abuse.
nm
Do you think that piercing a child's ears is abuse?
nm
Really think court case, child abuse charges
when another mother breastfed her child past a so called normal age. The poster says do not worry about what others think and the kids did not have to wear braces, but what about emotional issues that might come to pass with a 6 year old still on the boob? Most in this country, I am sure, would agree with these posts that you overstepped bounds in a mother-child relationship when this happened. Some things just should not happen.
Paddling is child abuse. Even Florida doesn't allow it.
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Do you think infant male circumcision is child abuse?
Would you say that its child abuse?? Never thought of it that way before. Came across this article that discusses this question, interesting read. See link below.
Duh, And if her "business" is child care, i pitty those kids.
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Fraud
I use to work at a bank. You daughter can go to the bank and tell them she wants to dispute the charges that she did not make. The bank has to then deal with Big Bobs and get it resolved. It may take a while, but usually it turns out good. Also if this does not work tell her to contact the better business burea she can do this on line.
It's not fraud sm
If we didn't have insurance, they would have to pay the full bill. This is not fraud.
If you must know, the money would go in our daughter's college fund, and NOT our bank account.
REGARDING FRAUD AND BOBS
Was anyone involved with the fraud that is going on in Bobs Department stores. My daughter who is at college called me today to tell me there is a lot of online charges made to her account that she did not make. She called the bank and they told her because she had make debit purchases from Bobs that someone got her debit card #. I had read about that and had told her last month to watch her statement after reading it. Needless to say she has closed out that account but she had just deposited $500.00 in there on Saturday to buy books and it is now gone. The bank told her she might never get that money back. This was scholarship money. I have to charge her books for her because I don;t have it. Has anyone had this problem? Have any advice.
UPDATES ON FRAUD
My daughter just called. She went to the bank , they gave her back at the 75 dollars that was because she was overdrawn but it was not her fault. She filled out forms and they told her it will take time but she will get it back. They set her up with a whole new checking/debit card. The only thing is they told her she did not need my name on it and even took my name off her savings. I don't like that idea because if I need to transfer money over to her or something happens to her I cannot access that count. She is only 18. I will have to explain all that to her at another time. It is kind of hard when she is in MA and I am in CT. Thanks again for everyones help
Need advice, please - is this fraud?
Interesting what can come to us in the mail. My hubby had gone to a gastroenterologist last year, his first visit, and had been scheduled for a colonoscopy. I didn't have a good feeling about the doc, as he came in for three minutes, did no exam to speak of and the $300 bill danged near beat us home!! I cancelled the scope and we moved on. This was back in October ག.
Today, guess what? In the mail comes a letter stating that he had missed his scheduled appointment for 10/23/06 and now owes this doctor $100!!!! Well, firstly, I cancelled the appt. Secondly, it is nine months since he supposedly missed this appt. Nine MONTHS!! I am kind of wondering if perhaps this is some way of the doc's office trying to squeeze money out of folks. Would this be fraud, do you think?????
I will be calling the doc's office tomorrow to see what their explanation about this is - I think I actually may ask them if it is some kind of joke. Anyhow, just wondered if anyone had ever experienced this sort of thing before.
Thanks in advance.
HC
That is called fraud.
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Sylvia is a fraud..........big time.
http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com/articles/montel_opal.shtml
http://www.ufowatchdog.com/sylviabrowne.html
This, I think, falls under the fraud category
There are people who use an illness or even a fake one to gather money like this. Some are prosecuted. Who are you to judge? Don’t know there but I would judge and say pretty lousy person, jerko, underhanded, dishonest and a few more I know cannot post on this board.
EBAY QUESTION POSSIBLE FRAUD sm
I bought something on ebay for $12.00. I got the notice saying your charge card will be charged. It has been 10 days and the seller has not emailed to tell me when it will be shipped. I have emailed her once a day for 10 days with no response. How do you report this to Ebay so I don't get charged?
Thanks.
Sick of disability/insurance fraud?
I am. I'm tired of playing by the rules and paying through the nose. I'll happily wear a red shirt with whistleblower painted all over it. I am minding my business, my tax money and my future.
I think names of individuals receiving federal/state/VA disability funds should be made public. I'm sure psych advocates will have a cow, but actually psych is one of the most abused disability diagnoses. I'd be willing to say forego psych patients and just list those with physical disability receiving money. Oh yes, I know it's subjective. Just like I know the guy receiving all kinds of money while taking morphine for "back pain" and riding his motorcyle. 
Common sense would not hurt - how about anyone receiving disability income specifically for a back injury should not be issued a motorcycle license/insurance. I'd appreciate hearing any measures you think would work.
Please save the indignation over loss of privacy - I'm talking about federal and state money that comes out of the taxpayer's pockets. I'll bet everyone on this forum can name someone they know is getting money they don't deserve. If you don't agree, you must not be in that age group that will retire with zero SS funds left or perhaps won't be one of the population who needs and deserves disability income and will never see it. I hope it does not happen to you.
I don't care about your things, and can't imagine anyone would care about mine.
Whether it's my eating quirks or my sexual preferences, I have no need to divulge that stuff here.
It's NOT that interesting (mine OR yours!) and nobody cares.
Welfare
How do I feel about welfare?
1. I believe in what the Bible says about if a man asks for you coat, give him you cloak also. My church teaches that we give if asked, and we have done what we are suppose to. If they were underserving, then that is on them.
2. Don't judge. When my husband and I divorced, I was raising 3 children, working, and going to college to learn to be a MT. I could barely pay the rent. The ONLY thing I did not have to worry about was food, because I received food stamps. I HATED it. I saw people roll their eyes when I got out my food stamps. I cried all the way home. On my birthday, my best friend told me my birthday gift was having my nails done (something I had never done). I went with her when she had her nails done and thought it was such a luxary. Well, she took me to get my nails done for my birthday, and someone from my church saw me there. That person went to my pastor and said they would never help anyone in the church again, because if I could afford to get my nails done, the I did not need help. Not only was I embarrassed about the situation, but I was hurt that someone had judged me.
3. Be grateful you don't have to use food stamps. When I finished school, I was elated after I got a good job and did not have to use food stamps. When I saw someone having to count out their food stamps in front of me, I was sad for them but glad that they got some help. I also would busy myself so as to not embarrass them.
Yes, some people abuse the system, but I would rather 10 people abuse the system than 1 person and/or family go hungry.
This is just my opinion. Please do not bash me. You can't say anything I have not heard before, believe me.
How do you know she will be on welfare? (nm)
nm
maybe she collects welfare and does not tell you.
nm
This goes toward the conversation on welfare below
Remember that conversation about single moms, welfare and foodstamps?
I was reading an article on MSNBC today. This man ended up in just the situation I was talking about. Read the whole article. Pay attention to the fact that it mentions medical bills and reverse mortgages.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29198366/
Has it been reported they are all on welfare, medicaid, etc??
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Thank you. Single moms on welfare are not all bad ones.
Women on here who say they have SOOOOO much saved for retirement and then talk about drawing social security burn my behind. It wasn't intended for the well-off to draw in the first place and probably will be gone by the time most of us get old enough to draw it.
This person is obviously overwhelmed with greed, wouldn't you say? In this day and age, with the greedy falling left and right, this one apparently doesn't understand that greedy behavior is no longer PC.
Matrimonial (or shackup) welfare then..I see!
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If that's not a case for welfare reform, I don't know what is - sm
Wouldn't it make sense for us (as taxpayers) to say: We understand occasionally people have hardships and need food stamps and other help; however, while you are receiving assistance, you must have Norplant (or something that can't be accidentally forgotten) so that you cannot have another child while receiving it? Otherwise we are simply perpetuating the welfare state by enabling unemployed people to have as many kids as they can, and rewarding them to do so.
Well, the former welfare recipient has her millions now & feels
regardless if it adversely affects children. She knows full well that her books are read by children. Since she has opted to make such a poor decision, I am opting to make a good decision and no longer purchase her books, watch her movies, or buy any products related to her books as she gets a cut on everything. It's one thing to have a personal opinion about homosexuality, but she didn't have to publicly link it to a character in her books.
Are you sister of poster with tax-welfare issues?
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How do you feel about Food Stamps/Welfare?
In the way home from school last night, I had to run into the Ameristop to get a gallon of Orange Juice.
Well, as I was pulling in, this lady (about 25) was walking in, sort of rough looking girl.
Well, she was ahead of me in line then and she got her food stamps out, and typically this kind of thing makes me upset. Because, you could see physically anyway, there was nothing wrong with her.
But, maybe there was....... or maybe she lost her job, and is trying to manage. Not that I was being nosey or anything, but there she had 2 Gallons of Milk, Sausage and Biscuit Dough. So, maybe she was trying to get breakfast for her family in the morning. So now all of a sudden I feel guilty.
But, if we weren't in these hard economic times where jobs were scarce, I typically wouldnt be as understanding, because I do feel Welfare is Abused.
What about you?
THEN, another thing......... maybe you will know, Sometimes you see Welfare people ahead of you in line at the grocery store or something, and they ALWAYS have "Name-brand" in their cart. Never Store Brand. Well I shouldnt say Never, but it always seems like your name brands.
Does Welfare require them to get Name Brand?
I DID NOT DRAW WELFARE. I got food stamps
only for a very short time. I was also a taxpayer then and had been for a number of years before and still continue to be. Why don't you come down off your high horse and realize that sometimes people need help. I hope that you and Amy never become disabled and have to rely on government services to help you.
A single mother by choice does not make them a welfare
recipient and/or a bad person. Heck, I would be more inclined to put that person as unselfish and determined. You chose the easy way out, the single mother took on her commitment and took the responsibility.
Should say the child found in Florida proved to be the Caylee child, homicide.
NM
I'd say yes they really did abuse
the 'emergency' but rather than contacting an attorney I would just try to recall where you might have given her contact information - call them and change ASAP and I would not even fill in that spot in the future citing your experience in these two situations and the problems it caused and if they fuss - give them a phoney name and addy and let it go. I think it is there for your safety really, secondly for them to collect should you not pay a bill - I have only been called once in my 55 years as my son got behind on his credit union car payment and they traced me down through 3 counties - so think you definitely had an unusual experience.
Abuse
Call your local shelter and they will advise you on ways to leave safely. NEVER take abuse - physically, verbally, or mentally from anyone. Forget the church kid, learn to love yourself, and lead by example for your children. If you act like a doormat, do not be suprised when you get stepped on!
You need a long time on your own before you are ready to think about entering another relationship. You are not out of your present relationship yet, but you can be if that is your decision. Best wishes to you.
Lilly
I think it is abuse.
Take the poor doggy into your house. Your cat may hide, but my guess is the dog will ignore the cat. I got my Sheltie when I had 2 cats and they all got along just fine. Please don't leave this poor thing outside, especially if it hot in your area. If you cannot bring it in, call the authorities. It is kinder than leaving her out to suffer.
It is ABUSE!
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This IS animal abuse. Thankfully, in most states animal cruelty is becoming a felony. In my state (NY) it can be punishable up to $5000. Animal abandonment is also a felony with one year in jail and up to $1000 fine. Failure to provide proper nutrients is another law that seems to have been broken.
Our animals needs protection from the elements, proper food and water (and not just a bowl to catch rain water,either) They also need love and companionship, and by this I mean not regulated to the backyard to vegetate.
Animals can think....how do explain service dogs, search and rescue, and guide dogs? Have you ever seen a dog given a task to do and watch him/her go through the paces to get it done?
As I stated before, contact an area dog club to see if they have members willing to help, or if they know of a Sheltie rescue who can help. Contact your area vets for such phone numbers. Or, you can contact me and I'll see if I can locate a Sheltie rescue that can help.
Abuse
Your post makes me very sad. Your husband is abusive. Husbands and boyfriends come and go in our lives; however, family is ALWAYS family. Please seek counseling for yourself. You cannot change him. After you become stronger through counseling, you will see the situation clearly for what it is - abusive.
Call your sister and invite her for a visit. Better yet, get a plane ticket and go see her. Don't ask, just do it.
Best wishes.
Lilly
Abuse
Every county has a program for abused woman and children. You do not have to be physically abused for them to help you. Find out the name of the program near you, Domestic violence, Reach, etc. You can call them and they will allow you to take your children and live in a house, the whereabouts is not known to anyone on the outside. It is free and they are very caring. You can start there and they will help see that you and your children are safe away from this maniac. Good luck.
There's always abuse
of the system. Making it illegal doesn't stop that. There are a lot of drugs out there that are, in my opinion, worse than marijuana as far as addictive qualities and doctor's prescribe those drugs routinely and easily for things such as back pain which is not life threatening but can be debilitating. I think it would be much easier to hold standards to legal medical use marijuana than it would to criminalize alcohol and the numerous other prescription drugs that are out there and abused.
it's abuse duh
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It is not abuse, but it is neglect
If you cannot take the dog in, I would definitely call the authorities. It is completely unfair and wrong for the dog to be left alone outside for that long with no shelter and no place to go. Who knows, maybe your cat and they dog will get along. I have 3 cats and a 128-pound German shepherd, and they call get along just fine together! But, if you cannot do this, just call the authorities for help/advice. I'm sure the dog would want you to do this so that it can get out of this situation!
Abuse causing this?
I had a son (I hear boys are worse than girls) who wet the bed until probably early teens. My aunt was a nurse, said NOT to belittle, get after, etc., etc. He definitely was NOT abused. Think children just do sometimes. I was told he would grow out of it and he did.
Sibling abuse
I picked up my 6-YO grandson today to bring him to my house for the weekend. When I got there I could tell he'd been crying and had a puffy bottom lip. He showed me where he had a missing tooth and said his 8 1/2-YO half brother (not my grandson) knocked it out. His mom sits on the couch and says nothing to dispute it, so I'm sure it's true. This brother is also his babysitter after school until mom and step-dad get home.
Not too long ago DHS was involved and step-dad was charged with abusing my grandson. Of course they always try counseling first before thinking about removing a child from the home.
I constantly worry about the environment he is in as I've seen the way older brother treats him, but never anything quite like this. At what point is it considered sibling abuse as opposed to normal fighting that brothers might do. Is this something I should report to DHS?
p.s. His mom is just beginning to speak to me again. She blames me for the last DHS thing even though I wasn't the one who reported it (only because I didn't know about it). Once I heard about it, I did go make a report about neglect that I'd observed. Then they were conveniently busy for the next 5 weekends so I couldn't see my grandson. It's a long story, but there is nothing in writing about visitation. I have pretty much had visitation with him every other weekend for the last six years.
What to do.
Sibling abuse
They're home alone 2 to 3 hours before parents get home. Parents are trying to save money, which is the only important thing to them. I agree entirely that he is too young.
The thing is, parents were home today when this happened. They were probably just getting up. They do not get out of bed before 10 on the weekend, even though kids are up at 6 or 7. I pick my grandson up at 10, and he has not had breakfast yet. This is the norm.
Or maybe it's all that substance abuse she admitted to
I know I don't look like that and I'm close to that age. :P
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