how ignorant to compare lice with neglect.
Posted By: Typiniowan on 2007-11-30
In Reply to: I understand your frustration-I also feel sorry for the little girl (sm) - Anon
It's merely a case of misinformation or improper education to her family on how to treat the problem, in no way is lice infestation and lack of getting rid of them completely a sign of neglect.
Maybe this mom just plain doesn't understand how to get rid of them completely or perhaps there are other things going on in her life that this isn't getting dealt with properly. They need support not ridicule as some of the posters have said - obviously since you've been there you should know it isn't as easy as people think to get rid of them.
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My son was no longer seeing this woman by the time my GS was born, but we've always tried to get him for visitation every other weekend. My son works many weekends, so half the time it is just me picking him up. I live out of town, but still make the trip every other weekend. Mom also has 2 other children prior to my GS. When my GS was about 2 she met and married someone. My son and I are the only family that's involved, so I'm sure the 8-YO feels jealous. Half the time I invite the 8-YO along too, but he is in sports right now and couldn't come along. However, there are sometimes my son wants to spend time only with my GS.
I agree the 8-YO should not be in charge, and I'm sure he does resent this. But from everything I've seen, Mom is not going to make the effort. These children need to fend for themselves for most everything.
I'm not in a position to offer any suggestions to Mom, as she resents any involvement. The only thing she wants is a babysitter. I used to pick my GS and his brother up on Saturday at 10:00 and could see her just getting out of bed. So I switched and try picking up on Friday after work as often as I can, but is difficult with living out of town.
I know the 8-YO needs attention, because he monopolizes the conversation when he's around. When he doesn't come along, my GS always takes something back for his brother. I am trying to teach him to be considerate of others.
I worry about what happens that I don't know about. If it wouldn't have been our weekend to pick him up, then I probably never would have known about it.
Question is, do I report this to DHS as sibling abuse, or is this considered normal behavior?
It is not abuse, but it is neglect
If you cannot take the dog in, I would definitely call the authorities. It is completely unfair and wrong for the dog to be left alone outside for that long with no shelter and no place to go. Who knows, maybe your cat and they dog will get along. I have 3 cats and a 128-pound German shepherd, and they call get along just fine together! But, if you cannot do this, just call the authorities for help/advice. I'm sure the dog would want you to do this so that it can get out of this situation!
Well in my case it was related to neglect (sm)
But I definitely do not want the child ridiculed at all. She needs help and I know how humiliating it is.
They are really fun, nothing to compare to. sm
They are about a girl from New Jersey who goes to work in her cousin's bail bonds office after losing her job. She is single and funny and turns bounty hunting into a comedy of errors. The characters are great, the books move fast and you want to hang out with them all!
They are all named in sequence - One for the Money, Two for the Dough, etc.
I can't think of anything to compare them to, but they make you laugh out loud and read very fast. So far, at the end of each one, I feel like I am saying goodnight to a new group of friends. How's that for corny??
here - you can compare all over at this website..n/m
Well then, I say we go for it, and compare notes later... heh heh
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ignorant
I would definitely say something to him and his wife as well so that way she can know how ignorant he is as well. That is terrible to say that to a kid. They have to deal with enough growing up right now. They should have to deal with ignorant parents like that to!
Ugh how ignorant
This woman is so ignorant. What if a woman takes the Nazarite Vow? Hmmmm.. Well then she must shave her head at the end of the prescribed period. I don't know or care about her buy MY mothers in heaven don't have long hair. As for saying that MOST of the women in the world wear spiky heels? Well she's just proving her ignorance there. I would wager the majority of women in the world do NOT wear spiky high heels. I certainly don't because I'd fall off! And her remarks about makeup? I don't wear 5 layers of makeup either.
Oh and not to mention her comments about long hair are based in a verse in Bible from a letter from Paul to the Corinthians. NOT the word of God but the opinion of Paul so :P
No need to compare notes, she is just awful to buy for so
I told her several times to send me a list with no response. I just decided toheck with it and then finally heard from her. I told her NO problem, no list, coal and switches and I really meant mine!
I can compare anything I like and I like, no love, animals
She used disability payments to pay for her invitro, saying she will use student loans (hope those will disappear) to raise the children (that is not what they are for), collecting disability until that ran out, food stamps, a total wreck of a person, does not have an income, living in a 3 bedroom house with 17 people and who brought up abortion. Not me. She should have never gotten pregnant with this litter because she already had 6 other that she could not care for. Her mother (the person she lives with) is tired of taking care of the 6, much less the added burden on her with 8 more. I could care less what the faith board has to say about me. I lose no sleep over what I say. If she can ask for donations for her brood I can certainly ask for donations for my animals. I am trying to help some of earth's problems, not cause more. Forget you.
That's kind of ignorant
That just shows that he really doesn't care all that much about how you feel or what you want. He seems to think that it's all about him. I would be furious if my husband pulled that kind of stuff! Mine is very good about that sort of thing, and he always asks or suggests and doesn't just say "this is what we're doing." I would be especially annoyed if he was planning a vacation with someone that I didn't even know!
I'm ignorant too, but I asked my son (sm)
Now this may not be your answer, but he said that most cameras don't print directly to a printer. You would have to connect the camera to your computer and then to the printer. He said that if there is the capability to print directly from camera to printer, you would need a USB port.
I just bought my daughter and my son's GF Sony digital cameras, but they just download onto computer and don't print; otherwise I'd ask one of them.
Hope someone can help you out better than I. Might want to call Best Buy (or similar). They might be able to help you too.
Good luck and happy picure-taking! :-)
that's an ignorant thing to say
what about the german shepherds or the chow-chows that attack people? pitbulls get blamed because they get put in the hands of BAD OWNERS. because of their reputation, bad people like to own them cause they think they are tough, therefore not properly caring or treating their pitbulls right, and therefore leading to the injuries you speak of.
Guess what, my dogs are aggressive dogs, one of them is a freaking jack russell/border collie mix and the other is an american bulldog (bulldog family not pit) and a boxer! for god's sake!
dont ONLY blame the pitbulls. it's pathetic how people do that. Any attack on a human from a pitbull is terrible, but they are not the only ones that do it!
I don't want to compare war stories, but I know exactly how you feel. Last year, on my way to vis
family member out of state, I was alone with my 2 children on a major US interstate. As we were leaving a big city and began accellerating, we immediately came to a stop. I almost rear-ended a trailer in front of me. I looked to my left and across the median (a grassy, hilly median) there was smoke, a tractor trailer on the side almost tipped over, and a manged Ford F-150 lying across the highway blocking all oncoming traffic. The accident had happened a minute earlier. I swear you've never seen a truck to mangled. The top was missing, it looked like a convertible, and under the tractor trailer lying face down was a young man (a teenage boy), just under the tires. IN THE TRUCK was a young boy who was apparently sitting in the back but half of his body was in the front. He was twisted like a circus acrobat. Going in and out of consciousness. And the driver of the Ford walking around bleeding in a daze trying to wake up his brother under the tractor trailer. Only 1 person had stopped, and for some reason my instincts told me to immediately pull over (I was in a large SUV with 2 kids in the back - what was I thinking?), but it was a godsend.
So, I go over to the boy in the truck and begin talking to him. He's still breathing. Barely. I lay hands on him and begin praying for him like crazy. Apparently, help had already been called. By the time I was finished the fire trucks and police had arrived.
I walked over to the boy under the trailer and he SITS UP! I thought he was already dead.
I spoke with the driver and they were all 3 high school students on break for lunch. He told me he was in BIG trouble because he took his dad's truck and wasn't supposed to. He knew his mom's work number and called her and I walked away as he began telling her what happened.
I was there for approximately 30 minutes. the police and fire dept. were so kind to me asking me for every little detail I had, which was none since I didn't witness the accident. When I arrived to my destination that night (shaking and crying almost the whole way), I looked on line for information and found NOTHING. Still to this day I have not heard anything about the accident. Not sure if the boy in the truck made it, but I did pray so hard for God to save him. I didn't care that I was bending over his body as people all around me were looking on at the accident scene. It's an experience I will never forget.
I came home and wrote about it in my journal and it took about 10 pages. I still have nightmares of seeing the boy under the trailer lying face down first. But then I think about how he sat up and I feel so much better. It will take time, but the wounds will heal.
to compare insulin with antidepressants is ridiculous..nm
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to compare insulin with antidepressants is ridiculous.
Studies have shown that antidepressants can cause violence and suicide.
Doctors have become reluctant to prescribe antidepressants.
You are ignorant about feed lots.
There are many large feed lots for horses that are fattened up and then sent to one of the 3 big slaughter houses in Texas to be sent off to Belgium, Japan, etc, in the form of steaks. I have myself rescued riding horses from auction by outbidding the killer buyers. There are bills pending that will outlaw this terrible thing, but the administration of Bush is against the bill and is supportive of the horse slaughter trade. I have known individuals over the years, being a horse owner and lover, that would buy horses and then fatten them up and resell them to kill buyers or to the slaughter house themselves. Many of these were horses that weren't fast enough on the track to make money, and also good riding horses, they were just worth more as meat. Go to any horse auction and you will see good horses going for slaughter just because that is who is the highest bidder. It is a heartbreaking experience.
and at the risk of sounding ignorant
isn't it true when one gets a vaccine, they are actually receiving some of the disease itself?....remembering back to smallpox vaccinations.......so are they going to vaccinate the girls by giving them a tad of cancer? Really, I hate sounding ignorant but.......
Personally I think the women of the USA, Texas right now especially, should BE SCREAMING THEIR HEADS OFF about this.............That Rick Perry dude - says he sees this vaccination no different than a polio vaccination.....HOW DARE THEY when they know not much about this new drug/vaccination.........remember all the new-ish drugs that have been recalled and lawsuits abound? Vioxx, Bextra, Accutane, hmmmmm....tons more......
Texas article below:
http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/health/feeds/hscout/2007/02/03/hscout601622.html
EXCUSE ME....ignorant minority???
May I remind you that Roe V Wade was the product of a handful of activist judges?? ANYwhere wholesale abortion has been on a ticket for all of US out here to vote on, it was defeated. They tried first to make it a "state" issue, and it was voted down. So activist judges overturned the will of the people and now we have abortion on demand. So PLEASE do not insinuate that the majority of people would vote FOR abortion, because you are VERY MUCH mistaken.
YES. Ignorant , 'way-too-vocal minority.
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I was taught to "always ignore the ignorant."
Unfortunately, I've run into people like that before, and I just ignore the comment, make nice chit-chat for a few minutes and "see you later alligator." At least, I demonstrated what my values are and did not degrade myself to their level. The main word here is "ignorant." There are so many people out there that are ignorant of their own manners, ignorant of other people's feelings, just tactless mules.
the rude thing was to ask if he was slow and to compare him to her "sorta retared" (sm)
grandchild - and to call her grandchild "sorta retarded" is rude too! I think maybe she's the one who is slow!!
Another tip on the lice
Put all dolls, stuffed animals that cannot be washed in garbage bags tied shut for at least 2 weeks. Make sure and wash pillows, blankets, bedspreads, combs, brushes, hair bows, clips, barettes, pony tail holders, etc. Wash any jackets they've recenty worn. Spray all upholstered furniture and mattresses and air out, then vacuum thoroughly! Vacuum carpet. Spray and vacuum your vehicle, too. The little critters are tenacious!
Been there, done that, shoulda had a T-shirt!!! I feel for you!!
lice
My kids got headlice a couple of years ago. Everything I read said that getting it has nothing to do with how clean you keep yourself and nothing can prevent it other than avoiding close contact with someone else who has it or avoiding having coats hung close together. Since both of those happen at school there is really nothing you can do to prevent it and just have to keep a close eye out for it so if one kid does get it it doesn't spread to the rest of the family and it's easier to get rid of before it reproduces. Some people want to wash regularly with lice shampoo as a preventative measure but supposedly that would be toxic to you if you used it regularly.
Has anyone ever used Vasoline to get rid of lice? If so, sm
The girl that cuts our hair suggested we use Vasoline on our three daughters to get rid of the lice. I used that, but am having a hard time getting the Vasoline out!! I tried using Dawn dish soap to cut through the greese. That helped some. I also read that peanut butter will get it out...so we used that also! This all worked fine on my daughter with fine, thin hair, but my other two have very thick hair and it is not helping them! Please help if you have any ideas or if you have ever done this treatment! Thanks!!
Any advice for lice? - sm
My kids came home with this almost 2 months ago, got rid of them (I think---all 4 of us had them and 3 of us are clean now), but 2 weeks ago my older daughter had a new outbreak. I have treated 3-4 x with Rid and Nix (Nix the second time around per doctor), olive oil, and listerine/vinegar. Called the doctor again last night begging for the prescription (they don't want to give it unless all other remedies fail) after I found 2 live lice on her head, an adult male and female, lucky me. My daugher's head appears to be nit free, though she does have a lot of dandruff now between the lice making it and the poisons I have put on her head. Now the doctor wants me to try 50:50 of mineral oil and vinegar. I could not do it last night as I had already had her wash her hair after I found the 2 lice (did Nix again last night). I am so sick of these things. I have washed, and washed, and washed, vacuumed, etc. until I never want to wash or vacuum another thing in my life. My kids stuffed animals, etc. have been bagged up in the garage now for 8 weeks.....never undid them luckily....so at least I had a little less to do this time. ----the other thing that tics me off is the girl next to my daugher on the bus has them too, probably from mine but who knows, and the policy is that the child has to contain their hair for a week or two until the nurse declares her clean. This girl is not pulling her hair back in a ponytail because she does not like them. I complained to the nurse once, and am doing so again today. So that probably is not going to change so I had the bus driver move my daughter today from that seat....they sit 3 to a seat and they are mashed together, hence easy transfer of a bug crawling from one head to another. My daughter was not happy about it, but this other girls mother is convince they are "cured" as she put listerine on her daughter's head and said she is fine now. If one time fixed it then lice would not be such a problem. I really think this lady is in LA la land considering the trouble I am having, and I have combed, and combed too, so I am not doing the half-assssseeedddd either. So does anyone have anything that they swear by? I know I could make my kid go to bed with mayo on her head for 10 days straight and that would in theory eradicate them, or any smothering agent, and it may come to that, but if anyone has anything else, please feel free to tell!
No. I have heard that lice do not like
coconut scented shampoo, but I don't know of one that prevents it.
lol, about the head lice comment
never thought of that, and would not be surprised if that was it, she's pretty filthy. Dollars to donuts that was why she shaved the other *hair* LOL!
Getting rid of lice without the medicated stuff
My daughter also developed an allergy after multiple treatments (we finally found out that they had infested the rug in the reading area). My grandmother told me that before they had those shampoos this is what they did.
My mother says mayonaise works but I was at my wits end so I went all out.
On Friday night I washed my daughters hair (which was down to her butt)
We then took Vaseline and worked it into her hair. making sure that every bit of her hair was covered. Sounds gross I know. We then braided the back of her hair and stuck it in a sock, We then fashioned a kerchief over her head to keep it all covered. We left it this way until Saturday evening ( we made a day of it watching movies ordered pizza played board games to keep her mind off of it).
On Satuday evening we took Dawn dishwashing liquid and washed her hair a couple of times. The combed the nits out. Nothing was alive.
Her hair was a little oily for a day or two but we washed it each night with a shampoo for oily hair. It worked great.
Also for the rest of the school year we have problems with other kids never really getting rid of their lice but she never got them again but per G-ma's advice she did not go to school with her hair loose the rest of the year. It was always neatly french braided with some styling gel over it to hold it and I was told that the gel also deterred the lice.
Good luck feel free to message me if you have any questions
I tell you what shampoo WILL prevent lice...sm
At Sally's the generic Paul Mitchell's tea tree oil shampoo. Tea Tree Oil kills lice so if you shampoo with it it prevents them. It is not a lice killer it is just regular shampoo. It smells a lot like peppermint to me. I used it when my son started kindergarden because I didn't want him to get lice. Kids in his clss had it and he never got it. It is a little expensive but worth it to me.
glad to hear this; t.v. hosts/reporters are ignorant; I would have told her so, on natl t.v.
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Lice can't be smothered! You have to kill them. Get the Rid or the Nix or whatever. Any critters
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I have been told that lice don't like dirty hair - sm
and when there is an outbreak at school to use mousse in the hair as it is sticky, etc. and the lice don't like it. Don't know if it is true but it makes some sense, though if this girl is always dirty and still has lice (especially if they like clean heads) then that kind of makes no sense. I am not sure of our schools policy but I think it is one where the kid is not allowed back until they can prove they don't have it any longer. So far we have had no lice reports this year, had about 3 last year. My DH has a cow over them and I tell my girls not to share hats, combs, brushes, etc. , and when we have the lice scares I use mousse on them for a week or so. So far so good. ---One solution they could do for the girl is to shave her head, no hair, no lice, though it is a drastic solution but I know a family that did that as they had a strain of resistant lice that just would not go away no matter what they did.
I've never heard that it prevents lice. That's a new one to me.
I always thought that children's shampoos were marketed saying that they didn't sting the eyes. I never found that to be true, however. Johnson's Baby Shampoo stings my eyes. Some contain detanglers, but I had boys who always had short hair, so that wasn't an issue for us. From the time they were babies until now, I've always bought whatever was on sale or least expensive. Most times, that turns out to be Suave.
Lice prevention -- distilled white vinegar (sm)
After shampooing, rinse hair with 50/50 mixture of white vinegar and water, protecting eyes.
My mom used this prevention faithfully on all of us and none of us ever had lice infestation, just shiny hair.
..lice in our hospital way back. Different critters from head or
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make sure you use a "metal" lice comb, not a plastic one as they don't work well. nm
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She may have head AND body lice from any kind of source. Look for critters in
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You can get head lice from the movies, day camp, doctor's offices, anywhere!! nm
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