groundhogs,squirrels, wild turkeys, rabbits, raccoon, goat and deer meat..sm
Posted By: cat on 2007-11-02
In Reply to: No debates - Sunshine
Some folks just take for granted that they can walk into a market and shop for meat...We've done the same for similar reasons as you and nothing was wasted. At least you're self sufficient!!! And, I bet you've put up/canned/frozen all the vegetables from the summer/fall harvest.
Didn't mean to be flippant in my earlier post...whack it, hack it, pack it and stack it...  Cat
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Deer and rabbits especially think my garden is an outdoor diner. (sm)
Have tried multiple things, can keep rabbits out of green beans, peas and lettuce until they get larger and not so palatable by using chicken wire bent over the rows and pegged down. The deer seem to prefer to just rip smaller branches off the fruit trees and really seem to hit the melons hard.
One of the things that I have tried and works pretty well for me is Irish Spring tied in the branches of fruit trees. I suppose it is the smell they don't like.
Anything else you come up with, please share.
The produce in the store isn't going to do anything but get higher with strikes, etc.
Is it legal to keep a wild deer as a pet? sm
Someone has had a wild pet deer for a pet in our subdivision for a few years now. I am a serious animal lover myself, but it has gotten rather old having this deer roaming through the roads and, most of all, eating landscape plants down to nothing. We have sprayed deer repellent on nearly everything, but the one little area we miss will be chewed right away. Besides, we have to keep doing it over and over and this stuff is not cheap. Really getting tiresome. Do not want to be mean, but what rights do the homeowners in here have?? 
I forgot: ecargots, rabbit-, deer- shark-meat.s are no,no for me, too..nm
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Rabbits are not easy to take care of. We have 2. We have the ideal sm
setup for them outside in the barn in rabbit cages that are very long (they connect and measure 7 feet across), so they have plenty of jumping room. The cages sit above concrete so cleaning up their mess is easy with a broom and catcher. I would NOT recommend they be kept indoors. After much research, I found that rabbits need tons of attention AND they need to be left out of their cage. They chew anything and everything so you cannot have them around any cords whatsoever. They poop A LOT too. I have to sweep every single day out there and they leave over 100 pellets a day. It's a mess and can't imagine the mess and smell indoors.
This is just my opinion. Also, people are highly allergic to rabbit hair. You have to consider that factor. I reallly hated to burst your buble, but these rabbits we keep outdoors are more maintenance than I have some days. Good luck in whatever you decide to do.
I've witnessed indoor rabbits
and they are quite destructive with their chewing. I was in a business where a rabbit was allowed to roam. It was destroying the wood trim all around the room, and also chewing the couch fabric. We had an outside rabbit when I was a kid. She died of a foot infection. I read those are fairly common in rabbits.
If you keep the rabbit outside, be aware that many dog breeds can't help themselves around rabbits ... my two, for example.
And hamsters are huge escape artists. Since they are nocturnal, they escape at night. It's a real pain, especially if you have a cat.
I just use cat and dog names. Have enough I haven't had to go to poultry/rabbits yet. nm
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I am allergic to cats, rabbits and dogs BUT sm
I live happily and allergy free with my miniature poodle! She sleeps IN MY BED and I don't sneeze or wheeze, my eyes don't swell, my throat doesn't close, NOTHING. She woke me up her favorite way yesterday morning...rubbing her short top knot all over my face and chin while she is snorts so I wake up giggling. Not a sneeze.
In all fairness, she is bathed at least once every 2 weeks, sometimes weekly. I groom her myself (as in shaving her) and I don't have problems.
Poodles are under rated for intelligence especially what are viewed as nervous, little yappy miniatures. Poodles are only like that if they have morons for owners. I respect my poodle's intelligence by believing her in abilities and teaching her patiently. She is so well behaved it is not believable! When my kids were here for my daughter's wedding, my younger son was very surprised when I gave my dog a direction in 2 words only (Her name and NO!) pointing where I wanted her to go. There was no sneaking behind my back, no trying again, no being told twice, she was perfect. Her owner is not a moron and she is not nervous.
Don't disrespect and underrate a poodle!
Sorry, I got off track, but I SO LOVE MY POODLE!!!!! This woman's best friend is her dog.
squirrels
I would definitely say something to her to let her know what you saw. People like that are just plain cruel. I'm sure she'd run over a cat or dog too if she could. She is just a mean person.
squirrels need to eat too
I don't think it's fair to put out food and say only this, this and that can eat, but you can't. If you don't want the squirrels to eat your birdfood try putting out a container of peanuts just for them. That's what I do. But they still snack on the birdfood once in a while. Guess they like variety too. But I don't mind, cause they are really fun and cute to watch.
I have the peanuts in a squirrel feeder with a lid on, and it's so cute how they just climb up the tree, lift up the lid and take out a peanut. Took them a day or 2 to figure it out, but now they're experts at it.
squirrels
Since the squirrels are everywhere this time of year, zig-zagging in front of our cars with their mission to hoard as many acorns as they can, I am passing on this little tip I learned from experience. If you see one headed in front of your car, hit the horn and the zig-zagging stops abruptly and they usually run back to the side of the road. I've saved quite a few from being hit this way. I've only ever hit one squirrel a few years ago and I felt really bad. 
squirrels
sounds like there a quite a few around you. how do you keep them from killing your plants?
We started out with 2 rabbits indoors, and then moved them outdoors because..sm
we found out that they were male and female instead of two females!! This past spring we ended up with babies and kept all of them. We got rid of the male rabbit shortly after the female became pregnant because he was so aggressive. We now have seven rabbits and love them!! My husband built a huge rabbit area on our land (we live in the country) and my kids love taking care of them and playing with them. The short time they were in the house they were really no problem. My sister in law has several in her house also with no problem. She tried doing the potty training and litter thing, but it just didnt work out that well.
Dogs are CoCo, Max, and Monroe. Cat is named KeKe. Rabbits are...sm
Snowy, Snowball, Butterbean, Cotton, Arrow (he has a perfect black arrow on his back!), Cow, Sandy patches, and Lil Fry because she was our runt last year!
I do feed the squirrels a mix with peanuts
and seeds and sprinkle it on the ground. Unfortunately they bury the peanuts instead of eating them. I've had as many as 20 squirrels in my yard before when I spread food out on the ground for them. They're pigs and it's quite ridiculous, but yes, I do put food on the ground and in a plastic bowl in an attempt to get them to stay on the ground. They have broken 2 nice feeders already, and for those reasons, many people like to keep them off the feeders.
My mom has had generations of psycho squirrels.
They eat a hole in the porch wood every year. They eat the putty, the paint, the cayenne pepper, the Tabasco sauce, the lemon, the squirrel scoot, the deer scoot and anything else we've ever tried. This has happened for YEARS and nothing works. They don't even really run from us anymore. Squirrels are not our friends. ;-)
Squirrels are creative, aren't they?
They can figure out a way to get into most birdfeeders. True acrobats!
I feel the same - I feed the squirrels too
they are fun to watch. Clever little devils. I have a peanut feeder with a lid on and they lift the lid up and take out the peanuts. I have a pair of crows that come to eat too. I have my own little wildlife sanctuary. Now my neighbors probably aren't too happy, they're not animal people. The guy across the street puts out those poison peanuts - so mean.
squirrels. Diamonds or pearls?
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That reminds me!!! Last year, the squirrels
got a hold of our outdoor cushions. I walked by the big window one day and looked out to see a squirrel tail sticking out of a cusion swishing back and forth. I made some noise and the squirrel popped and looked at me with a huge amount of cushion stuffing in it's mouth - he looked like santa claus. Needless to say, if you look way up in the tree, our squirrels have a really, really nice cushioned home!
Gottah share. Last fall we got 2 rabbits. Was told both were females. Guess what? sm
That's not true! We had a swim party over here and the kids went to check on the rabbits and there were 10 in there! OMG. I didn't believe them at first, but then they started describing the scene and I knew they weren't kidding. The rabbits stay up at our barn where we housed our goats.
Anyways, I guess the people we bought them from can't tell the difference between male and female! I pray these babies survive. They are so tiny! The mom is huge. It's an addition to our family......We are excited...Will keep you updated..
We have deer here also but
I hope never to see a bear out in the open here. I know no matter how cute, they are still wild. Just on the news yesterday morning a guy who had permit to raise deer killed by 1 of them while feeding as male in rut and he and his family knew aggressive. He had all kind of wildlife on property including beer. Like your own animals, they can and will turn sometimes.
My kitty has her own video, with birds, squirrels, etc. - sm
She gets a real kick out of it, especially the moths and the chipmunks. She always trys to reach out and grab the chipmunk!
Now that it's summer, though, I've got bird seed and hummingbird feeders outside the window, so she can watch the REAL THING all day long.
Star Trek!! Squirrels or Raccoons?
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Is it an albino deer?
If so they don't usually live long. Eyesight in all albinos bad. Also, easier for predators to spot.
albino deer
Native Americans think they're sacred. I can't remember the legend but I think it's amazingly good luck to you.
Deer for pets
I am having a similar problem with my neighbor. Her yard adjoins our yard and she puts out food for the deer right on the property line. I don't mind the deer as they are pretty to watch, but it has gone from 2-3 deer from 5 years ago to nearly 10 deer constantly including bucks. They walk from the woods through our yard to go to her yard to eat. It has gotten to the point where the deer are roaming about all hours of the day, not just at dusk. I, too, see them roaming the neighborhood. One has come up on my front porch before. I have small children as do my other neighbors and I am concerned that they are going to startle the deer and someone might get bitten. I tell my kids to not to ever approach the deer and give them their distance. I am also concerned about deer ticks too.
I asked her if she would not feed the deer on the property line as it is causing a potentially unsafe situation and she got very huffy about it and said she was an animal lover and it was her right to feed the deer if she so desired. I tried to explain to her about the kids, not only mine but other kids, and the dangers of wild animals being in the yard and roaming around and she basically told me to "mind my own business."
I don't know in Pennsylvania what the laws are about having deer for pets or feeding them, etc, but I have heard in other states it is illegal.
I'm a deer widow this weekend SO
I'm cleaning out the closets and going through my husband's drawers. I swear he has underwear that I don't know what in the world they could cover since they are so tattered!
I'd like to clean my desk and under my bed as well but that may have to wait until he's gone again next weekend.
I do believe it's illegal to feed the deer in PA
because of the harm it causes (see other postings). Your neighbor might get in some serious trouble for doing this. My father and uncles were deer hunters and every year would put salt licks out for them, but about 30 years ago, they stopped. I really don't know the reason, but I would seriously do some checking on this.
You could tell your neighbor that she's making it easier on the hunters as they will start trusting humans and think that they (hunters) are coming to feed them. If that doesn't get her to stop, then show some printed material on the laws. DH isn't hunting this year or I would look it up in the manual he used to get.
Yes, indeed, it is illegal to feed deer in PA.
It's never a good idea to feed them, anywhere. I was just reading an article about this. When deer are fed, they tend to concentrate where the food is being left for them. The local population of deer increases, the food left out for them is not enough to support all of the deer, and so many of them starve. It's actually counter-productive. Deer adapt to the winter weather. They spread out in their environment. Their metabolism slows. They move less and eat less. Some die over the winter, of course. It is nature, after all. But feeding them is not good for them. Your animal loving neighbor is actually hurting the deer.
Think you need a permit to actually keep deer as pets...sm
but I couldn't find anything on the Game Commission website about it being illegal to feed them. They do strongly discourage it, though, for a lot of what you posted.
If you have not yet seen the deer and cat video treat yourself to
something wonderful. Copy and paste and enjoy. This is truly beautiful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rooyt3ptNco
no kids, no deer - will that stuff keep other animals off?
Home Depot is just around the corner - I have a 6 foot stockade fence and live in the city - I am sure there are no deer - possibly possoms, no deer.
chittlins and mauls....deer jerky...sm
Anyone else out there cooking specialty items for the holiday? Cat
There were a lot of albino deer in Shenandoah Natl Park.
I don't know if they are still a "problem". A while back, hunters were asked to specifically look for and thin them from the herds -- something to do with weakening the gene pool. I don't know anything about wildlife management, but I know that I've seen a good number of albino deer in SNP. It is exciting to see them!
Oh, my dog is Michael Jordan. I swear she's part deer!
We just moved to the country, but when we lived in town, she jumped the fence I don't know how many times. When she wants in the house, it's not enough to simply scratch on the door, she has to jump six feet in the air and basically throw herself into the door.
I just get so frustrated. I was at friends house who has a golden retriever and they have a little bell hanging from their back doorknob and when their dog wants out, he simple rings the bell and same thing on the outside of the door too. I was incredulous. How did they get their dog to do that?!?!?!
That is so wild! sm
I agree with the comment on calling to ask a question. Keep us posted, okay?
Ugh, which is why I don't eat meat or
questionable meat-by-products.
I don't believe this. Dogs are not *wild*--sm
animals with denning instincts. they were meant to be every bit as free as humans were. As far as I am concerned, ALL animals, not just dogs, are *furry people* with a whole lot more loyalty, compassion, understanding of nature, and caring than a lot of people I know. They should be treated with respect, just as much as humans, because they were *created* just as much as humans were. If a human cannot or will not take the time to train the animal where it wants it to *do his business*, then that human should not have an animal as a pet at all. You would not treat your child this way, so why treat a pet this way? JMO.
wild animals
My fiance used to live in a subdivision in our small town. . every night, possums and racoons came up on his back deck and looked through the sliding glass door at us while we were watching TV in the living room. . We enjoyed seeing them and sometimes we would put food out for them. .
I have to share this also because I think it is a once in a lifetime thing - yesterday we were walking on my fiance's farm and saw a deer giving birth. . we got to within about 35 yards of it. . We only watched for about 10 minutes because we could tell we were making it very nervous. . I hope they both do okay. .
Tomatoes gone wild
I have planted 4 tomato plants that have gone crazy. They are crowding out other things and the cages are barely holding them up. I would like to try to transplant them to another area. Anyone have experience with this with a fully grown tomato plant? They already have some tomatoes and lots of flowers. I am planning on starting this afternoon by pruning back many leaves and stems that are not fruit bearing yet.
Because wild birds are not usually fed
grain that has been tampered with by man and has all kinds of questionable additives, and even usually contains dead chicken waste. I grew up in the poultry capital of the US and it's a wonder I even still eat chicken!
but how does it change the meat?
By the way--cattle are slaughtered past the age of two. When old cull cows are made into hamburger, they add back fat from younger cattle because the fat on the older cows is yellow and people would not eat it. I also know that cattle eat things other than grass. We still graze cattle on grass land and manage our pastures well. (Western states also have public grazing land and some even graze the desert.)It is only cost effective to the cow-calf producers who do not feed grain. Slapping a grass-fed tag on beef and calling it a niche market makes it more expensive for the consumer and is controversial to me. Feed lots do not keep cattle off of grass land. We must keep in mind that this country must manage beef somehow because of how much we consume and export. Beef is a valuable commodity and a big business. If it could be handled in a way that was more cost effective, it would be.
Thank goodness I don't eat meat! ugh...
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Wild swimsuits
Pic below.
Not around here, and glad.....I don't *do* meat scraps! lol
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Thats wild! Would help too if mice were diabetics
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What's the best cut of meat for homemade philly...
steak subs? Our family loves them and we usually buy the frozen philly cheese steak meat...but I just can't stomach the smell of it even cooking anymore because it is sooooo greasy. I want to try to make some homemade from a fresh cut of meat. Any suggestions? Thanks!!
wildlife should be left wild
I agree about the psycho woman, but this is about feeding wildlife. As stated above, wild should the left wild. It's become a romantic idea to feed the ducks at the lake. Because animals cannot digest all the synthetic crap we put into our foods, their digestive systems become blocked and they die. Human education is a very long haul.
JMO, but having been a very wild teen at one time...
you really should intervene. Your sister has a right to know, it is her child after all, and to turn a blind eye and pretend it does not exist does your niece more harm than good. Take it from one who has been there, if someone would have done the same for me I would have been angry, but looking back now it would have changed my life tremendously. A lot of young girls today really need some direction, look at the role models they have out there, most of them are nothing to brag about! Good luck to you, you sound like a loving and caring auntie!
Canned meat - the spinach of Dog
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I caught the blues when trying to eat the red meat
because husband is a health food junkie and I think sometimes he expects the same of me. I love steak but hardly eat-are shrimp bad for someone who has high cholesterol? He eats fish- I don’t care for- fish is fish is fish to me- all taste alike except for the shrimp with the sauce and horse radish in it- yummy! My physician when I mentioned about my cholesterol told me to tell hubs to leave alone- mine was excellent and I could eat most anything. So there, man of the house!!
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