girls fighting
Posted By: redraider on 2008-04-11
In Reply to: Girls in Florida fighting - TAG
sure did. I can tell you how old they are, old enough to know better, Speaks volumes about the parents is all I can say. They should be tried as adults. All are being held without bond until a hearing sometime today. Hope they get what they deserve and the mother of the girl getting beat up needs to be filing civil suits as well.
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Girls in Florida fighting
Did anyone see that sickening video of those teen girls beating up another girl while two boys stood guard outside the house? I think they should be tried as adults including the boys (not sure how old they are anyway). 
girls fighting....and did you see the interview?
the one where Matt Lauer interviews the mother of one of the attackers?? She painted her daughter out to be a saint, how her daughter warned the victim not to go in the house. Matt asked her why her daughter was there for 30 minutes yet didn't call police. She didn't have an answer for that one. And she also said that the victim should get part of the blame because she was trash talking on myspace about the girls.
I say try them as adults too. One of the lookouts was an 18 yo boy.
I worry about my 11 yo son. What kind of world will he be living in??
He's fighting again today.
This time with his younger brother because he doesn't want to play a video game with him anymore. His younger brother is almost 6 and he gets bored easily with video games. Once again, when he got mad, he resorted to violence by kicking his younger brother in his side. It left a red mark. He's sitting on a chair as we speak. I didn't give him a length of time, but I don't think 8 minutes is long enough for the stuff he's doing. I told him what the consequences were when he did something like this, ie serious injury to his brother, possible juvy hall for him, and how it can lead to worse things as he gets older.
He just doesn't get it. I really wanted to fan his @ss, but what would that teach him? Just that violence begets violence. Why does he have to react so intensely? Why can't he just get mad and get over it without hitting someone?
My other 2 children don't react this way. That's 1 of the points the child psychologist and I discussed specifically. That if I were a bad parent, which I definitely think at times, then all 3 of my children would act out, but they don't. Just him. He's generally well-behaved for other adults. He goes to the youth church camps and has no problems whatsoever. He knows right from wrong, he just doesn't institute it. It's so frustrating.
I think it's time I found another child psychologist to take him to. Maybe family counseling or something. I know there's something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is. I spend a lot of time with my kids. All summer long, I've gotten up early to work so I could spend the days with them, swimming, biking, etc. We do a lot together as a family and the 2 older ones get to go a lot of places with other people. My children are not neglected in any way. My husband spends a lot of time in the evenings with them, especially the 8-year-old. We know that he demands more attention and we try to give that to him, but this is getting exhausting.
I know everyone here has been trying to help and I appreciate that. More than anything, I just need a place to vent. I think it's time, though, to see a counselor again. I'm also going to look into alternative medicine, ie nonaggressive diets. Maybe there is something to that. It seems to be true in animals. Again, thanks for letting me vent and offering up suggestions or insight. I do appreciate it.
Mom with fighting son, please see reply below nm
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fighting family too
I come from one of those families too...holiday wasn't complete if the police didn't come or EMS...when I met my husband and went to a family function with him I did not know how to act. I kept waiting for something to happen but nothing did, they are close, they love one another and enjoy being together. Needless to say we stopped going to family functions on my side and my own children do not know what its like to have one of those holidays and hopefully never will.
I come from one of those fighting families.
There have been many, but the defining event would have to be at my father's viewing when his own brother started a fight in front of the open casket. If it were a screenplay, it would have to be a comedy, because the reality of it was too painful to endure. Needless to say, I don't deal with my family unless I have to. I've had too many holidays ruined over the years, and when my children were small, I realized that their holidays would be ruined, as well, if I kept returning to these toxic family gatherings. Now we do things on our own, and life is much nicer. We don't have the Norman Rockwell gatherings of 20 or so people, but that's ok. Maybe some day when I'm a grandmother and great-grandmother, our healthy family will have grown to Norman Rockwell size, and then we'll have a family group that wants to spend time with each other. That is so much better than dreading family gatherings!
There is virtually no fighting. (sm)
I don't hate him. But the opposite of love is indifference, and that's his diagnosis of me. I have to agree. He doesn't have a cure for that. He only does couples counseling if solving all the issues would make me satisfied. But if DH changes all the things I list, he'd just be the right husband for somebody else. That's my problem.
But chicking and dog fighting is illegal.....
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If you're still fighting then you still care.
That's what I have been told multiple times. We aren't fighting anymore here. DH thought that meant we were happy, but I was feeling depression and apathy.
Rooster fighting is illegal in CA, yet there is a place (sm)
I can see from the freeway that is acres upon acres of little tent-shaped coops that house chained-up fighting roosters. It's been there for 30 year - and I can't figure out WHY.
um, what about deceased hubby family and $millions she was fighting for?
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what about dead hubby's millions, fighting her stepson for
she's been fighting to get millions from her dead hubby estate, fighting the son-in-law. Howard is her attorney for that, which has been going on for years. That family has motive.
I have K girls too!
My K girls are called
Kayce and Kelly. My other name that is K that I love is the old fashioned Katherine. If I had another daughter I would name her Katherine Rose or Katherine Elizabeth.
I have 2 girls though.....- nm
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girls
When your daughters ask, answer them at their level. When they are old enough they must to know how to protect themselves...abstinence or steel belted radial rubbers....(Hey, I'm still trying to develop that!) 
Mean Girls!
Go play elsewhere, Boo! You hate guys!
2 girls, 8 and 4..........sm
Okay-
1. 8 and 4 beautiful girls
2. The 8-year-old does have a cell phone, but let me explain 1st. It is a prepaid cell phone. She is allowed allowed to dial certain numbers from this phone. I got it for her for Christmas for various reasons. My mother in-law can't hear well and LOVES to spend time with the kids. When they are they, I like for her to have a way to get ahold of us (grandma is always on the computer for IM, takes up her phone line). Also, this phone is for EMERGENCIES at school. She is a very good kid and has actually only used her phone once with permission to call my mom.
3. The 4-year-old has a TV. It is actually the 8-year-olds, but it is a "princess" tv, which apparently is not for her anymore. She gave it to my 4-year-old. No computer in room, but they do play on Dad's laptop, always with supervision.
4. No set allowance, but they do have chores and must have room clean before they go to friends' houses. 8-year-old takes care of her dog, 4-year-old takes care of the bird.
To All The Girls!
Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the hel*l happened. - Cora Harvey Armstrong-
Inside me lives a skinny woman crying to get out. But I can usually shu*t her up with cookies. (Unknown)
The hardest years in life are those between ten and seventy. -Helen Hayes (at 73)-
I refuse to think of them as chin hairs. I think of them as stray eyebrows. - Janette Barber-
Old age ain't no place for sissies . -Bette Davis-
Thirty-five is when you finally get your head together and your body starts falling apart. - Caryn Leschen -
If you can't be a good example -- then you'll just have to be a horrible warning. -Catherine-?
I'm not going to vacuum 'til Sears makes one you can ride on. - Roseanne Barr-
Behind every successful man is a surprised woman. - Maryon Pearson-
Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission. -Eleanor Roosevelt-
When life hands you lemons, ask for tequila and salt and call me over!
The girls are 7 and 9
Their friends all have the "real" American Dolls and they have read the books so they want the American Girl Dolls that are in the books from the library and catalogs we get in the mail. They have seen the movies too and loved Kit Kittridge and her friend Ruthie so had their eye on them. Very, very expensive toys but they take good care of their things so I hope I can pick somethings up second-hand.
Thank you for all for all of your help.
All girls are different
My daughter started exactly on her 11th birthday, but her good friend started when she was 10. I don't think it's anything to worry about.
I'd let the girls
People will usually be very sympathetic to the girls' feelings and will try to reassure them that the kitten will have a good home. You know your kids best, of course, but I think it helps when they know that the kittens are being adopted by nice, caring people.
Ballet for little girls?
Has anyone had or have their 3-year-old daughter enrolled in ballet class? I'm thinking of doing this, as my daughter constantly asks for it. Do they get anything out of it? I already have dreams of my prima ballerina daughter going onto bigger things, and she's only 3! I'm taking her to check out a class for free this week and will see how it goes. It's only for once a week and then a show they put on in June. Just wondering if anyone has any experiences to share. Thanks so much!
little girls being used as guineapigs for them sux..
and if you don't get my point(s) - perhaps you weren't around for DES/thalidomide.....
Wetnursed only girls
My wet-nurse babies were all girls - and I would breast-feed both mine and the paid clients at the same time - one on one breast and the other on the other - I was paid more as a wet-nurse than as an MT - "laughed all the way to the bank"
yeah, U might be right but 11 y/o girls...sm
are not VISCIOUS!!! Kim Basinger is viscious! She has pumped the daughter with all kinds of unnecessary garbage, as probably as Alec Baldwin too...both of them are using BAD PARENTING.
There is no such thing as a BAD kid....only bad parenting.......
Gilmore Girls Fan
Well basically Rory had a meltdown because she got turned by the New York Times and Chicago Sun Times said they were not hiring. So she called back to the Providence Newspaper and the position was filled. So Loralei and Rory spent some time together so Rory could get cheered up. So anyway went to karaoke bar and Loralei got a little tipsy and Rory asked her to sing so she did and sang I will always love you and Luke walked in and smiled. He also started wearing the baseball cap that Loralei gave him in one of the earlier seasons for Christmas. The show ended with Logan showing up to ask Loralei's permission to ask Rory to marry him which I hope Rory says NO!! Also Lane and Zack, Zack got a lead guitarist gig and is going to go on tour for 2 months. Hope this helps you get your fix for the week ;-)
would rather raise 5 girls than 1 boy..sm
When boys grow up and become men, their *toys* become MUCH more expensive than girls (think boats, cars, motorcycles, ATVs, planes, trains, etc.).
I had such success with my girl that I want more girls *lol*
I have 2 girls and so far so good - sm
they have bad days sure, but so do boys. The people I know with boys note that their kids are always on the go; boys certainly seem to have a lot more energy than girls. But my girls can get whiny from time to time and drive you nuts too, but a friend of mine has 1 son and he can drive her totally nuts too; granted my can play together, he gets bored from time to time. They are well behaved when we go out 90% of the time, and if they act up we leave plain and simple. So they know to act good or else it is their loss. My 8-y/o (9 in August)is just starting to get some slight body hair, my DH is totally dying at the thought of her "growing up". I'm not too worried about the puberty phase and hormones, I never went nuts or told my parents I hated them or acted out, etc. Yeah, I did some stuff they never knew about and I expect mine will too; but I hope I can rub some common sense off on them and give them the tools they need to make good and imformed decisions as they get older. But considering everything we have been through the last 2+ years with my younger one and her kidney cancer, they have turned out very well and with any luck will continue to do so, I'm going to try my best that they don't turn into spoiled brats. We have recently started an allowance of sorts, they don't get it if they work is not done and they also can buy their own games, toys if they want, but not to whine to us if they use up all their money on 1 thing and then want something else. So they are learning to manage their money. My 7-y/o is much better at this, and my 8-y/o is learning this the hard way, but I expect will master this in time. I am just glad they are older now, so much easier when they can be more independent.
If the girls know about it, then I guess it's okay
If not, then no. I grew up with a girl whose father snooped through everything of hers, her room, her handbag, etc. To this day, she has no use for him. So, there you go. Also, I truly believe there are some things you just don't want to know so why go looking?
Now maybe young girls won't look up to her as a
They do this ALL the time, especially girls (sm)
Mine just finished first grade and this type of thing happens at school on a daily basis on the playground, with no parents to intervene. They just go round and round with it - I'm your friend, I'm not your friend, I'm her friend, etc. You did fine - don't even worry about it - it is perpetual!!
And shocking that these were *girls*...sm
Who did this. Usually it's the male of our species that does things like this. But girls are becoming just as violent and aggressive in our society now too. My God.
I have 2 girls with the same "problem"... sm
I have two daughters who have had the same problem... one is now 13 with a size 10-11 women's shoe (depending on the shoe), but when she was in elementary, she was also heads taller than not only the kids in her grade, but the 2 grades ahead of her too!!! :P My other daughter is 10 and wears a women's size 8-1/2, and I think she might outgrow her sister....
Sounds to me like she is just going to be a tall girl... and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.... I think there are a lot more tall girls now than there used to be... and if they are going to be tall, then they need the feet to support it!! :D
Fortunately, there are tons of good shoes out there now in those sizes... I have no problems finding cute shoes for my girls that are age appropriate and fit properly... we love Payless and Famous Footwear! :D
Good luck to you and your daughter... I am sure she is beautiful... and if she feels at all awkward about her height... you can assure her that the other kids WILL eventually catch up! :D
There were 5 Golden Girls
Sophia, of course!!!.....Wise-crackin' momma...she never missed a beat! It's all in the timing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlvmsDta67k
Have him vent to YOU at the end of the day, not the girls.
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I was divorced when my girls were 3 and 8. My
oldest daughter tells me that all she could remember was me crying and being upset all the time and how much better it was to have a calm household after we separated. They are now 18 and 13 and seem to be doing fine.
Obviously, yes this is just you! These girls have been violated. sm
Let me see.......how many teen CHOOSE to have sex with 40 year olds. I am not really meaning by choice but what is ACCEPTED in their culture/religion. None. I live in the dam bible belt and hate it. I am not religious. I am realistic and this whole case scenario was not even realistic. The State of Texas by returning those children made a HUGE mistake. A cult is a cult is a cult but we should protect the children from these types of situation.
Girls weekend? I'm in....
Those are the best. A new place each time. What fun that would be!
Thank you so much. I am definitely doing this for the girls this Xmas now. nm
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Need to know why girls are so mean these days?
My son dated a girl for about a year in middle school. Her mother called the house constantly to let me know how she did not want her daughter dating at all, and wanted them supervised at all times. I consented to this, but my son finally got tired of dating the "not able to date" girl and broke up with her. Since then, it has been 12 months of holy heck! She bad mouths him behind his back at school and even convinced the girl who asked him to Sadie Hawkins to "change her mind." Since when did girls get so ferocious? My son has had to date outside of the high school because she has tarnished his reputation with the other girls in his group. And finally, this was a nonsexual relationship because it was chaparoned 100% of the time, and I don't know where the "Splendor in the Grass" psychosis is coming from! So what is an overprotective mother supposed to do? Especially, since the daughter does not seem to realize this was her own mother's idea to begin with?
I'm 29 and still friends with a lot of girls from HS
and most of us know how to sew, cook, bake, etc. We learned it in Junior High and High School. I have a couple friends who sew their Halloween costumes every year and they're awesome at it!! I know the basic stuff, but prefer to only sew by hand - I hate sewing machines! So, I don't think it's necessarily a generation thing, maybe more of a regional thing. I grew up and still live in the Midwest (just north of KC). They also still teach Home Ec in schools here.
pedophiles can be girls
poor kid, now the whole school knows about it.
I was told by some girls
when I was in grade school that it was a nasty thing to do, that it was supposed to make you like boys and want to kiss them. Mean girls :)
I would never bash the girls.
But she puts herself out there. She craves the limelight, was on 6 major magazine covers the first month (that was on the news last night), and she always seems to get her digs in when she wants. As far as I'm concerned, she's fair game.
I don't have a problem with my girls - sm
having sex before they marry. My mom wanted me to wait of course and when I was 15 or so told me this, I told her it wasn't gonna happen. I did recognize though that I was not ready to have sex until my senior year. All my friends but 1 were 15 when they started having sex. They went through the dramas of thinking they were pregnant, 1 did get pregnant and miscarried, so that kind of put me off too. I was 17 and had graduated HS by the time I became sexually active, and had gone to a clinic and got on the pill in advance as well. The boys at my school tended to lie/brag so I had no great desire to date anyone from my school, the few I had all lied about what we did and did not do, and so I tended to date the boys from the "local" catholic HS, though I was not catholic. --I will be advising my girls to (1) wait until they are in a stable relation and love the guy, (2) get on BCP in advance, (3) have condoms, (4) try to wait until after they get out of HS, if not at least their senior year. I don't think girls are emotionally ready for the responsibility of sex until they are at least 17. Girls equate sex with love and marriage for the most part and can get pretty dumbbb. Most of the guys just want to get laid at 17/18, certainly are not looking at marriage at that point and I don't think should be.
wow had forgotten. About girls and
bikes, we were not allowed to wear pants or shorts to school, hence, we were in shirts, dresses and shoes we called flats. It was the new style, away from saddle oxfords and bobby sox of the 50's, so bikes were out as far as going to school. Besides, I was 2-3 miles from school and rode the bus. Thanks for the memories.
I think the girls are much better than the guys this year...sm
it'll be interesting to see how many guys actually "survive" once they get it down to 12 contestants.
Please take the phones out of the little girls' hands!
Just got thru watching AI and am disappointed YET AGAIN that Sanjaya was not voted out. It's gotta be all those little 13-year-old girls that are voting for him, because there's not one lick of talent there. Granted Stephanie wasn't at her best last night, but she was at least 10 times better than Sanjaya. They all were, for that matter! Oh well, I still don't believe he will make it much longer. At least I hope not.
that is - half the girls - also if they do pass this - sm
how long do they "have" to watch it, 1 minute, 5 minutes, what, a half hour until they change their mind? Once they get this passed, believe me, they will try something else, give an inch, they take a yard.
She wasn't going to do Easter for the girls, so they did. sm
It's ok. Every kid, even at that age, regarding you IMHO, deserves a great Easter basket. Get over it and stay out of it.
Please tell me I'm not the only Gilmore Girls fan left and ...
...that someone can tell me what happened last night. I wasn't home and my VCR is so hard to program, I didn't have time.
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