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evidently the ESL had terrific upbringing.......nm

Posted By: Good For You......Excellent!!!!.....nm on 2007-01-24
In Reply to: esl just made my day - ER MT




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I think it's mostly the upbringing
Ever since I was old enough to talk, whenever I got anything, even if it was $5 in a card in the mail, my mom had me right on the phone. As I got older, when I was old enough to write, days were spent writing thank you cards after parties for my communion, birthdays, etc.

To this day, I have never not thanked someone, by card or by phone, or even by email, for any type of gift.

There are so many ways to say thank you and people who do not are just rude or not brought up right IMO.
Above post is spot on. My mom is this way because of upbringing.

I wish I could explain this more - (it's probably in one of our mental health reference books!)  I believe that no one ever showed her sympathy as a child and taught her to be very suspicious and untrusting of other people.  I believe she feels if she shows that she cares, she'll just be disappointed anyway, so why bother.  It causes one to put up a wall, just like the other poster said.  This really resonated with me when I read it.  Because of myself also being brought up this way, it's sometimes hard for me to let anyone else in too, and I have had to teach myself empathy.  I sure am doing my best, and very obviously, to teach my children empathy by using life examples and modeling the behavior myself.


I'm so sorry about your son.  If you want to talk about it on the board, we're all listening.  XX


people are conditional; pets are not. Her upbringing may
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I was born in 1960 but sounds like we had the same upbringing
I would have loved to live in the 50s as a teen/adult. Sounds like we came from the same neck of the woods. I too had a curfew of 10pm on weekends with a 5 minute leeway. After 5 minutes I was grounded for 2 weeks (and this was high school and I dare not argued back). If I ever dared talk back to my parents (well actually I did once and only once, we lived by the belt. We got it when we were bad, but not to the point of abuse - it was to learn a lesson and we did). We had a TV with 12 channels (actually 9 because we didn't get channels 8, 9 and 11), and we didn't have a remote. My parents idea of a remote was telling my sister and me to change the channel. No dishwasher (again my moms dishwashers was my sister and me). I spent Sundays doing church activities, Saturdays was Girl Scout activities. We too didn't have computers. Closest was an Atari ping pong we played on the TV. My mom was a ballerina, tap, jazz dancer and spent a lot of time teaching us. We spent nights inventing word games, drawing, making candles, quilting and other crafts. Hardly watched TV. We just learned how to entertain ourselves. Sis and I would spend a lot of times in the woods and outside. I'd give everything I have today (cable, computers, etc) to go back in time and do it all again (only in the 40s or 50s would be good).
that's right, Ann.........YOU evidently GET IT!!..

           


for those of you who still DO NOT GET IT.........



evidently some people don't like to see other

That's terrific for you....

I think you'll like it.  Do not get discouraged.  You should really only lose 1-2 lb per week.  Just taking the attention to the portions is a great step.  Also, drink the water if at all possible.  The exercise is good as well, but this need not be structured or even at a gym.  Exercise around your house.  Take the long way to do things.  Park further in the parking lot (be safe of course), walk around your kitchen when you're cooking.  Getting up the heart rate is most important!!!  I think you'll like Weight Watchers.  Feel free to keep in touch, would love to encourage you some more!  Well wishes to you...  


That's terrific!
What a wonderful idea. At least that poor sheltie's suffering has had one positive outcome.
That's terrific!

You are very brave - a lot of people would be afraid to speak up. As I was reading your post, I kept thinking about a prayer I read when my son was little:


"Dear Father, hear and bless Thy beasts and singing birds
And guard with tenderness small things that have no words."


Sounds like you are His eyes and ears and hands down here on Earth.


Wow - evidently it sure DID make you feel better....
  You are creepy.....yuch.......
oh so u evidently care nothing about environment?

Homeschool is Terrific

One of my grandsons is home-schooled.  Two are public-schooled.  The home schooled one is doing very well.  The two who are not are in deep trouble (one is in 1st grade and the other in 3rd grade.  The 3rd grader has been held back twice.  All the school does is complain about him, say he cannot read (he can read at my house) and plague his mother with their frequent phone calls and meetings where they try to place the blame on the parents "lack of helping enough with their homework"  (since when do first and third graders have two hours of homework at night - that is crazy).  The 1st grader is doing okay, but barely.  When my own kids were young (I have 3) my son would have really benefitted frome home school, but at that time the state of California made that impossible.  I went through so much with him and with a nephew (my sister-in-law and brother-in-law spent 800.00 a month on special reading and tutoring classes and that was back in the 1970s and 1980s.  That is the only way he did well, and the tutors agreed with the parents that there was nothing wrong with him or his ability to learn, that it was the school's lack of teaching to the individual that was the problem.  Lucky for him that his parents could afford the tutors.  Psychologist's don't know everything (and I am an old Psych RN and have met a lot who were probably attracted to the field because they were formerly psych patients  .  As a grandma who lives with her home-schooled grandson who is in the fifth grade now I say hooray for home school! It feels really good to know that he gets taught in a way that works best for him and his mother.  If the psychologists are worried about "group interaction" just take her to martial arts classes.  Since when were schools the only place a child could interact?   Martial arts is good exercise and it also has worked wonders with ADD children and I've seen that first hand.  It is helpful with self esteem and helps children work on their ability to work with others as a team.  My home schooled grandson can interact with anyone anytime and we get tons of compliments on his behavior and he is delightfully happy.  Every year we ask him if he would like to change to public school, private school or continue with home schooling.  His answer so far has been homeschool!  My other two grandsons who go to public school are much loved, but there is defnitely a difference in their behavior, their attitude toward learning, and their ability to get along with others when compared to their cousin.  The public schools are not what they were when I went to school - I had wonderful teachers and obtained an education that was second to none.  Alas, this is not the 1950s anymore and the public schools prove that to me every day in every way.  Go to some websites and check out the curriculums.  See what is out there.  I recommend Calvert's great curriculum.  Good luck! 


Jemm, those are terrific!
I am making a list of all the old movies that I loved and if I don't have them I am going to buy them and watch them again. I had forgotten about all those, except for Braveheart. I loved Fatal Attraction and Beaches!
And evidently not raised w/etiquette emphasis!

and evidently not raised w/etiquette emphasis!....
 
you would make a terrific TS salesMAN!
You are exactly the type! Can't let go. For the record, it was a 90-minute presentation that went to 3 hours and when I said I went out to the car, it was because we wanted to leave, but the rep followed us out, continuing to try to sell after being told multiple times we were not buying and when he stepped forward so that I could not close the car after I was sitting in it, that was when I decided to change the diaper in the air conditioner because nothing else would shut him up.

Bless your heart. I bet, I just bet, you cannot keep your fingers off your keyboard to reply to this because for all your bravado, you can't JUST SAY NO and leave this beaten horse to lay in peace. See if I'm right about you. Go ahead...don't post and show me your spine.
I think the boy's teeth look terrific, not fake
at all.  I know that when my son first got his braces off it was very, very strange.  I called him Willie Wonka for a few days.  They were just sooo perfect it was kinda freaky, but the strangeness wore off after a few days.  Does your son like how they turned out? 
Evidently, she was just recovering from pneumonia and had been hospitalized, so that might explain w
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please stop feeding the troll; she evidently is full of

white collar workers only *ROFL* - what a small minded troll she is too....oh well, seems like  personal problem to me but then y'all have to stop feeding the troll (her).    she is also enthralled with herself *HAHAHAHA*......


Well, seems to some of us (me-me-me) that  she probably, in that neighborhood of only white collar workers) is low gal on the pole - she IS her own trash.....


Odo Ban - I highly suggest it. The smell is terrific. sm
especially if you have animals, etc. My friend gave me hers as she bought it from Sam's Club and I love it. You get a gallon jug and then a sprayer. It's an all-in-cleaning. She even puts it in her towels when washing. I just am very pleased with the smell. Just a little suggestion if you are having guests this holiday season!
...and "Gee Your Hair Smells Terrific"...that was my
favorite shampoo - it really did smell "terrific."  In fact, I found it in one of those catalogs recently and ordered it - unfortunately, it had no scent whatsoever - just wasn't the real thing...I was hoping to be able to go back in time, but I guess it's true that you really can't go home.