awwwww give her hugs for me!
Posted By: JanSetzmt on 2007-10-12
In Reply to: Updating- the ones posting about possibly end of life - Lovemypets
I just took my kitty to get her claws clipped again at the vet. She is only 4 yrs old and not declawed....anyone have any ideas/opinions on declawing? Pros or cons? She is an indoor cat but I would be afraid that if she got outside she wouldn't be able to defend herself. She is not wrecking any furniture, just does her bisquits (sp?) on the carpet with her front paws when they get longer. She won't let me touch them so I take her to the vet to do it. She lets them do it without a problem because she is scared of them. Any ideas?
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Hugs to you...
I hope you get through and hopefully he will change his mind. I feel your pain and no one can really truly knows unless they know your particular circumstances and have been in your shoes! Won't go into gory details, but suffice it to say my divorce was from a divorce attorney, one of the best in the area and pretty influential in most aspects of the community. No other attorney in a wide part of that area would even talk to me on the phone because of possible conflicts of interest in having to deal with him on court cases, even at the other end of the state! Finally did take the papers to an attorney, who said he wasn't afraid of him, looked them over to the tune of about $480 for an hour and said he could have been more "generous" but nothing really illegal in them and would wipe me out to pursue and would cost ex nothing. (Hey, at least I got my divorce free!!) I've always just tried to keep in my mind what is best for the kids, i.e, just let them live as peacefully as possible and know that I'm doing the right thing. I had many chances to bad-mouth my ex, especially with my oldest, who cried to me that "now we're just like everyone else, divorced," but I never have and never will, even though I suspected and know in my heart what was going on, and now they all get along great. Have I been down on my knees crying why is this happening to us and how I am going to live?! Yes. Would I do it again, yes, because my children were the best thing that ever happened in my life, even though it didn't turn out as I had expected. I have had more lies told about me then I can count from my so-called "friends" and when I moved to the "divorcee-haven" apartments as someone so kindly put it. People can be so cruel, and it really hurts sometimes when they don't really know what's going on. Hang in there! When your son is old enough, HE will be able to tell the court where he wants to go if you desire to pursue it.
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You are not alone. My sympathies to you and your family. I hope you find a way to create a memorial that will honor your mother and help you feel some peace.
Big hugs to Cat!!
You made me smile - thank you!! :)
(((hugs))) to you too - so sorry for both of you (nm)
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My hugs to both of you too....
I can only imagine how enormous the void must be, especially with the holidays. It's good you feel free to share your pain. Never apologize for that! It's real!! If anyone doesn't understand, that's all about their need to grow, not yours. I've heard other people say as you have that it never goes away. I pray you will find special comfort this year, special memories, ways to know your children live on, and ways to bless others because of what you've gone through. ((hugs))
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(((hugs))) 2007 was like this for me; you will be in my thoughts and prayers.
The Serenity Prayer
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
Living one day at a time;
Enjoying one moment at a time;
Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
Taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it;
Trusting that He will make all things right
if I surrender to His Will;
That I may be reasonably happy in this life
and supremely happy with Him
Forever in the next.
Amen.
--Reinhold Niebuhr
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I am so sorry about the loss of your beloved cat. We lost our 9-year-old cat last year, and I know how heartbreaking it is. Please accept my deepest sympathy.
And some more hugs...sm
So sorry. I lost my 17-year-old cat in November. Your last sentence sums it up pretty well. (((hugs)))
Hugs to you and your family....
This saying is on the grave of one of Mark Twain's daughters, written by Robert Richardson.
Warm summer sun
shine kindly here,
Warm southern wind
blow softly here,
Green sod above Lie light, Lie light,
Good night, Dear heart,
Good night, Good night.
Hugs to you and your hubby!!
My best friend had a miscarriage in 1994 and she still gets a little emotional when she talks about, even though she went on to have 2 healthy daughters.
Cyber hugs! nm
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Oh, I had those hugs and loves and all
in earlier years, the works but you would be totally surprised what a chunk of money can do to a person. I never would have thought in a million years and I did instill good values in the kids and never for 1 minute have thought I have failed. I would bite my tongue off before I spoke to a parent of mine like this 1 did about my getting the money. You hear about families fighting in the courts about property left to 1 and not the other and money and things like that- it is not unusual and even though he got over $50,000.00 from this family member, he thought he should have the rest of what was in the bank which I got. It can happen. Oh, by the way, raised with stepfather that both seemed to be pretty close to. I know this sounds harsh but I will not take abuse from him, from my husband or any other person. His father did not give 1 red cent for his upbringing- I did that all. Oh, this son is married so he has his wifes family and that is all he thinks he needs anyway. I do not lose any sleep over this. Never a pushover here and do not intend to start now.
I will pray for you also. Hugs to you. nm
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Sending you hugs - sm
I am so sorry for your loss. They are like our babies and it is so hard when we lose them. Take care of yourself and give yourself time to greive. Think about maybe a shadow box with your kittie's things in it as a memory.
How scary! Big hugs to you. sm
Take a deep breath, say the Serenity Prayer, Let Go and Let God, make sure you are taking care of yourself by eating and getting the rest you need. That's what Al-Anon has taught me and it has served me well. 
So sorry - been there - thoughts and hugs
to you. I had to replace my last one who had seen me through a divorce and was essentially my significant other with two. I feel your pain.
I know how hard this must be for you. Hugs to you! nm
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I'm so sorry. That must be really hard...I'm just sorry ((hugs)) (nm)
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Thank you also for your HUGS at this time.
Yes, my husband will be with me. My one son is at highschool today. Told him to say goodbye to his "Sister" today. That just did me in for sure. He was upset but I have been preparing him for this for the past couple of days. He understands about her not wanting to suffer. My other son, who is 20, just left for work and said goodbye to her. They both will be home this afternoon, so we can all say a final good-bye. At least she will still be close to us in the back garden. We will plant some flowers in the spring.
More hugs and condolances here too.
Oh how sad. They do leave quite the hole in our hearts don't they. What was his name? Lots of cat lovers here who know exactly what you're going through, myself included.
You know though, being an outdoor cat but dying inside is a sign that whatever it was, it was quick, as I have found that they usually try and hide, which is really awful to go looking for your missing cat and then finding them long after the fact. That probably doesn't help console you right now though. Seems that nothing helps the hurt to stop except time.
Take care of yourself.
(((((((((((hugs))))))))))) to you trose...sm
I'm so glad you took him in. That's a very scary situation, and I think you did the right thing having him talk to someone right away. I'm very proud of you...it must have been hard, even knowing that you had to.
About the eating disorder, keep an eye out for signs. I did want to say though that my hubby and all his buddies as well as my son and all his buddies say they're fat all the time. They rip on each other constantly too. They just walk up and say, *hey fat***, been going a little heavy on the cupcakes?* They all do it--no matter how skinny they are. My 12-year-old is 5 feet tall and weighs 90 pounds. Skinny as a rail, but he says all the time, *gotta feed the fat* or *fat guy in a little car*.
Now, I don't mean that you shouldn't take it seriously and watch for it (especially if his friends are concerned), but I thought you might like to hear that sometimes boys are just dumb. We (the wives) always say how mean they are and can you imagine if we did that? Oh, hey mt, (doing my best macho tone) still carrying the baby weight, huh? Can you imageine saying that to a friend?!? We'd all be in tears!
Please keep us updated, we'll be thinking about you.
One more thing--you might be able to take him into the dentist just for his check up. When they are making themselves throw up, one of the signs is the enamal on the inside of their teeth being damaged or gone.
So sorry for your pain. I know how bad it hurts - {{hugs}}
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Hugs and prayers to you. I know your pain right now and wish
there was something I could say or do to make it better for you. Just know that all of us here are keeping you in our hearts and prayers.
What a lovely post. Hugs to you too! nm
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Hugs to you all, I would cry everytime I would read one nm
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*hugs* I'm so sorry. I know the pain as it is still very fresh for me. SM
He had such loving parents these last months of his life and you did everything you could for him.
At the cremation place they gave me this card.
The Rainbow Bridge
Just this side of heaven is a place called the Rainbow Bridge. When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to the Rainbow Bridge.
There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water, and sunshine and our friends are warm and comfortable. All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in or dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing, they each miss someone very special to them who had to be left behind. They all run and play together but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. Their bright eyes are intent. Their eager body quivers. Suddenly they begin to run from the group, flying over the green grass, their legs carrying them faster and faster. You have been spotted and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.
Then you cross the Rainbow Bridge together...
Hugs & Kisses From Fred
Hugs and Kisses to all of Fred's new friends and well wishers. You have made both of us feel so much better about the predicament we are in. We thank you for your prayers and thoughtfulness, and we will let you know as soon as the deed has been done. Fred didn't seem to mind when my hair turned gray and my skin started to wrinkle, and I will love Fred unconditionally, tail or no tail!
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Lopez. Kisses or Hugs?
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Beach. Hugs or kisses? nm
Hugs and good thoughts are being sent your way! nm
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they would take your hugs and kisses every time!!!
and give them right back. :) Thanks for the kind words
This is great news! (((hugs)))
My PCP also thinks I "type too much." LOL - I go in with the craziest notions sometimes, and he'll say "you have simply a sinus infection." LOL
We are just so involved in these medical reports that it seeps into our brains!
So glad things are working out for you! 
RE: So sorry about your loss. I've been through it also and know how you feel. Hugs to you all
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virtual hugs to you "exhausted" one...sm (long)
Exhausted,
This is MY PERSONAL OPINION (for what it's worth)...things need to change and YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE who can change them.
Not sure how much of DH yelling I can take.
NONE. NO YELLING. Yelling is unacceptable adult behavior. You are ALLOWING YOURSELF to be yelled at. He knows it.
I work 2 jobs. Yesterday I had to put in 5 hours for one.
Congratulations. You sound like a very capable woman and dedicated to providing for your family.
DH is supposed to help with the kids. Well, his level of helping yesterday was just sitting in his chair and yelling at them to stop doing this or that.
This is not helping. Nor is it parenting. This is selfish, abusive behavior.
He said about 5 times that my 15-mo had a dirty diaper.
Again, this is not parenting; your husband sounds very passive aggressive. Has he EVER changed diapers for you?
He knows how to "play" you...to manipulate and control you...he knows you'll "cave in" eventually.
I had the attitude like “well go change it, I am working.”
Did you actually STATE THAT to him? Or did you just THINK THAT? With passive-aggressive abusive people YOU MUST SET YOUR BOUNDARIES AND STICK TO THEM.
He never changed it and I don’t know how long she stayed in that dirty diaper but by the time I got to changing her, she was red.
As he knew you would...all he had to do is wait. You "rescued" him again from having to take responsibility. He obviously does not care about the health and welfare of the child to let the child sit in soiled diapers until they're red....
Then I went to help my 5 year old with her Valentines. She did 20 Valentines and she insisted on doing them herself. It took her 2 hours but she did it all. I was proud of her and amazed.
Congratulations again! You are finding the spots of JOY in your family despite all the dysfunction going on. WELL DONE!
Dh kept hollering for us to get through because he wanted some Ice cream.
Again, this is passive aggressive behavior. Extremely self-centered behavior here, but he knows he can do this because he keeps succeeding....
I told him since he can drive he can go get it himself. He got mad and started yelling.
Yes, as long as you talk to him with phrases starting with "YOU" as in "you can drive, go get it yourself..." he'll just blow a gasket. You must SHIFT YOUR THINKING. CHANGE YOUR PARADIGM. Stating "I" messages is the only thing that works here. "I feel angry when you yell at me. I want you to STOP." Besides, who wants to have ice cream with a raving yelling husband? Ugh! That's supposed to be fun?
My 15 MO kept bothering us. I got some toys to try to help distract her and it would work for a little bit but then she would pester us some more. I told dh to keep her distracted and he shouted “WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO.” WHY ARE YOU ACTING THIS WAY? WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?
Again, you are ALLOWING HIM to talk to you like this. Do you realize it's UNACCEPTABLE? Did someone treat you like this as a child? Perhaps you've fallen into a "behavior rut" it happens to a lot of us. The only thing wrong with you is that you allow him to talk to you that way....
I told dh that she acts like she is hungry, has she had anything to eat. “she has been eating popcorn all after noon” I knew better than to ask him anymore so I got up and started to go find her something to eat and he yelled “SIT DOWN” and gave me a look that could kill.
He is dominating the household through FEAR and intimidation. This is NOT a relationship nor a marriage...it's an "arrangement" and it's all in his favor at this point. That's why you're exhausted.
I told dh that I just don’t know how to deal with him anymore.
GOOD FOR YOU! But even that statement, "I don't know how to" sounds WEAK to him...he knows you're trapped in a "behavior loop". YOU CAN KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH HIM...the question is, do you WANT TO? Do you want to change YOUR behavior towards him?
I feel he is angry with me or resentful.
Yes, because you make VALID DEMANDS for a relationship and he doesn't have a clue how to have one; self-centered passive aggressives DON'T KNOW HOW TO RELATE TO OTHER PEOPLE.
When we first got married, his Mommy was practically sleeping in between us.
This explains a LOT. His mother controlled him 100%, probably still does, but deep down he's really ANGRY at her for controlling him (he just doesn't realize it) so he's subconsciously taking it out ON YOU!
She balanced our check book, she went through or mail to see what bills had to be paid, still does, she has to know everything about what we are doing.
Again, you have allowed this behavior...It's okay, don't beat yourself up, but it CAN'T CONTINUE.
She and dh are best friends. MIL went on all the vacations with us and it was always where dh wanted to go and MIL always loved where dh wanted to go.
This is totally dysfunctional. They're not best friends, they're codependent adults and it's a very difficult psychological situation.
When I had the kids, it had to be all about her. I told dh thiat if this sick business did not stop, I was leaving.
It stopped. Poor MIL don’t get to see her DGK anymore. Boo hoo hoo, (coming from dh and MIL). I am so mean. This is all another story.
YOU SET A VERY HEALTHY BOUNDARY! Well done! This reaction is to be expected. When healthy boundaries are put in place, these kinds of people BLOW A GASKET and use every trick available to get you back "in line" with their "program." The question is, are you willing to "play their game" anymore? Sounds like you've reached "game over" to me!
One minute dh says he loves me, then next he treats me like this.
Typical passive-aggressive, codependent behavior. They tell you what you need to hear to keep you in their dysfunctional codependency.
My family, unfortunately, loves dh. He doesn’t act like this around them. He is no niceeee and MIL is so niceeee.
Ah yes, camoflage; another TYPICAL BEHAVIOR pattern. They are WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING. There's so much you CAN DO, so many resources available to you, but I would start with something simple. Start with the way you communicate. Try
"I FEEL * WHEN YOU * I WANT *"
* fill in with your emotion/their dysfunctional action/change wanted
For example, "I feel angry when I'm trying to work and you won't change the diaper. I want you to change ALL the diapers when I'm working."
If he doesn't CHANGE HIS BEHAVIOR, then move on to IF/THEN. "I feel angry when you yell at me. I want you to stop. If you can't stop yelling at me, then I want you to leave the room, (the house, the planet, whatever!)" etc. etc.
I have to go. I got to get my kids up and ready for school.
i have to go too; wish i could sit and talk with you. i'd be happy to email you if you want some more suppport. been there, done that honey. you can only change yourself. question is, can you find the strength to risk the change?
hugs,
Been there...sending you good thoughts and hugs!....
Hope the day gets better.
You do not give them food, you give
the children food but if they did not have the food to eat, probably would call family and children services. I do NOT give away money to anyone.
you should give it a try
what the post said about the wipes. maybe something all natural might also do it that way the baby might not have a reaction to that and its good for the dog also. do some research on the net if you can. its worth it before you give your other "baby" up. let us know what happens. if worse comes to worse, make sure you interview prospects very well just like a baby for adoption. hope the first one works for you :)
We would give a lot of it away, believe it or not. Then, of course, the sm
usual - pay bills, purchase gorgeous home, travel, etc.
We believed that those entrusted and blessed with much should give much. If you keep all that you have you become stagnant - like the Dead Sea. The Dead Sea has absolutely no outlet which is why everything dies that enters it. I don't think we are much different. Give in order to be happy.
Once they give me what I want, they
can do what they like but until then guess we will just have to continue to cut that massive yard. It takes us about 2 hours to get there and then spend time there just to cut. It is an all day thing.
I'm sure they have - they will give her something (or let her out) (sm)
If they let her spoiled brat behind out, I am going to be MAD.
Can't give him away--Nobody else would put up with him!
I have a big kitty (18 lbs) that acts just like that! Pulling on blinds, disturbing our sleep, doing anything and everything to get attention until he gets fed! We love him so much and know that we are the only ones in the world who would put up with him--so we can't give him away! I feed him 3 measured meals a day. Fortunately, I now live in a house with a basement, so I put him down in the basement at nightime with his 3rd meal. He cries and scratches on the door a little bit, but then he gets used to it and goes to sleep. Sometimes I have to put him down in the basement during the daytime too if he starts being too bad while I'm trying to work.
Do you have a bathroom you could put kitty in at night? Just make sure there's not too much in there for him to destroy. That would be more comfortable than a crate.
There was a give away
for me. An ad underneath said something about maze prank.
I'm going to give this a try...sm
These are my "four-legged boys".
then give him a key!!! nm
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Give him a big hug from me!!!!...
Whatta joyous day you guys had!  Cat
I'm not sure if I can give the name
legally, so I'll give you some facts -- It is a major department store that changed it's store credit card into a mastercard.
Don't give up on her. PLEASE don't give in to her.
She's 16, and its never too late. I just started reading this thread and my heart is broken. I hope other moms take it to heart after hearing your story. I have 3 teens, so can relate. My husband and I came from permissive families - you know, the cool family with the house where all the kids wanted to hang out? The houses where they could get away with anything, drinking, drugs, smoking, sex, cause the parents looked the other way. My parents were fine, upstanding, snobbish upper crust members of the community, fine church-going folks and rich. And they didn't give a hoot about their kids in the end, though we looked great on paper. I only wish my parents had rules. I was grown up since I was 14. My husband, too - that's how we met and have been together 30+ years now. Our # 1 rule since our own kids were babies... NEVER are they allowed to sleep over anyone's house. Period. No exceptions. Not relatives, not their bestest friend, not their cub scout troop. Need I say that we have never had 1 regret??? There is NO good reason for any kid to sleep anywhere than their own bed at night. Period. We realized when they were little that if we let them do the sleepover thing when they were little, but then stopped when they were older, what kind of a message was that? We knew the sweet little neighbor who at 5 years old demanded her friends sleep over, or else would throw a tantrum, would be 16 one day, and a tramp. Its that simple an equation these days, unfortunately. So, no sleep overs, no exceptions, not for church, especially not for church. LOL. How sick is that? But this is 2008 folks, and this is one messed up world. My kids were upset a bit when they were really young, but we didn't make a big deal of it, nor in the end did they. They are cool, mature teens, and have actually thanked us for it many a time lately. We took the temptation out of their hands - kids are too young to have to go thru this crap. I know, I did. At any rate, of all the rules I would start if I were you, I would go with the knowing where she slept at night, eacn and every night. Otherwise, look what's happened. She has lost this privilege at the very least. Kids don't need to not come home at night. Please don't ever fall for that one again. Even if she is at so-and-so's house, a friend, you must see what kind of kids she is hanging with. Don't allow it, for her sake. She will never ever change unless you do it for her. Praying for you. Be strong. She may hate you now, but she won't a year from now, or two. But at least she'll be alive to forgive you, rather than possibly dead. You know what I mean. Let your husband's European temperament prevail. BE STRICT. Being a strict parent does not kill your kids in the end, honest.
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