You are wrong. They don't resent "anybody on aid." Only the people who abuse the system, li
Posted By: sounds like you are taking this very personally. on 2006-11-07
In Reply to: They resent anybody on aid, especially food stamps, and have no clue what it takes to get them. - what is going on
lady driving the Cadillac Escalade. You are still missing the point!
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They think anybody who is on aid is abusing the system. They resent the system and the people sm
who receive any aid at all. that is very clear.
Not chastising you, or someone in a similar situation. It's the people who abuse the system by ly
about their under the table income, assets, shiny new car/S, high def tvs, etc., etc. et cetera.....
Yes, that's what's wrong with the system
That's exactly my point. It's wrong on any level. It was obviously an unfortunate accident that no one should benefit from. If you daughter needs counseling to overcome this, then by all means take her and ask the dog owner to pay your copay. I think it was very reasonable that the dog owner offered to pay your copay from the hospital bill. You want revenge, not compensation.
Something about this story doesn't make sense. Your daughter comes running home dripping with blood and they had to pull the dog off her hand, but yet nothing was done with the dog. The dog's owners are so unreasonable and yet they're offering to pay your out-of-pocket expense. Your daughter is completely traumatized by all of this, and all you can think about is getting an attorney to sue for her pain and suffering. Again, call what it is.
What is wrong with people?!
Last Friday I went into town to run some errands. The last stop on my list was WalMart to pick up a couple things for my husband.
As I am pulling into the parking lot, I stop for an ambulance that was coming out. Didn't have its lights on or anything but I could see through to the back and they had someone in the back. I go on into the parking lot and see a fire engine, then three more ambulances with their lights flashing and about 7 police cars.
What the heck? I sat in the car for a few minutes, not sure if they were letting people in, didn't have a clue what was going on. Finally, one of the cart guys comes out to get the carts next to my car and started to tell me what happened and yes, they are open.
I went in and there are clothes strewn about on the floor and in between the isles right behind the checkout lines. Police are everywhere interviewing people (assuming they were either involved or witnessed whatever happened.) There is also a woman lying on the floor in a backboard with paramedics swarming around her. I get my stuff and get the heck out as quickly as possible, still wondering exactly what was going on. So I checked the weekend paper, nothing about the incident and this is a very small town so if there was something happening, it would have been in the paper for sure.
Finally, yesterday's paper comes out and in the police blotter is a blurb about the incident at WalMart. I was shocked.
Apparently a 45 year old man, a 65 year old man, and a 60 year old woman started fighting over a place in line at the checkout and when employees tried to intervene, some of them were injured (though not seriously thankfully) as well. What? Are you serious? The store was not THAT busy and they were fighting over a place in line?
Is it any wonder that so many kids and young adults are rude, crude, and revert to acts of violence to get what they want? When adults, and MATURE adults at that, can't even behave themselves, it's no wonder!
If someone is in that big of a hurry to get out ahead of you, for crying out loud, let them go and don't make a fuss. Isn't worth getting assaulted over by any means. Especially in a store with a ton of small children tagging along with their parents to shop. 
That is just wrong. You are assuming these people were going sm
to do the right thing - and what makes you think they would? the dog should have been impounded, they should have contacted the hospital for payment information - did they? No. The victim has to pay or her credit is screwed. Her insurance could refuse to pay - they could investigate the dog bite and see who the culprit was - but they choose to pay - so not fraudulent. The people have not done anything it sounds like and now you are very quick to jump on this mom who obviously made a few mistakes and just wants to know what to do next to correct them. Wow.
The notion that people who mean it don't talk about it is just plain wrong.
You need to do what you can to get him "committed" for at least a 48-hour hospital stay, so he can be professionally evaluated. Call the police, they have a protocol for these situations and in most states they have the authority to "commit" him if they believe he is a risk to himself or others. Suicide attempts peak this time of year...don't just blow him off or you may live to regret it. Good luck.
Morally-wrong things hurt other people. Loving
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How dare you say I resent my children
I do spend every night reading to my children. I also tuck them in and rub their backs every night. I get up every morning to prepare them a warm breakfast before driving them to school so they don't have to ride a cold school bus in the morning. My kids are all on the high honor roll because my husband and I help them with their homework. I volunteer at their school once a week. My husband and I attends every sporting event with them, be it practice or a match, to make sure no harm comes to them. I make sure they have a hot meal on the table when they come home from school. I worked extra all summer to afford a trumpet for my son who wanted to join the elementary band. I don't resent my children. I love them very much.
But I do resent others critiquing my parenting abilities. I'm sure OP's DS and DD do a lot more than OP is giving them credit for. It's terrible for the kids to have fish sticks and yogurt, but it's okay for GP to spank them? She's complaining because DD and DS don't hit them, they just yell at them? Where are your scruples? It's obvious these parents love their children, they just need a little help, not criticism. Why is that so hard to understand? Do parents not deserve a break?
So many GPs have the mentality, "you made 'em, you raise 'em" and that's fine. No one said GPs should be raising their GKs, but is it that wrong to think that GPs could give the parents a break even just once a year? Maybe they'd be better parents if they weren't as stressed all the time. 
I think you are making a mistake and son will eventually resent you for that (sm)
He should at least get a chance and not be held accountable for something someone else did. It is definitely very unfair to him.
They resent anybody on aid, especially food stamps, and have no clue what it takes to get them.
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Wii system sm
I am so happy. Live in NE. My DIL inquired of a small local game store in a small mall when they would be in, they told her Tues. and to be there when they opened. She appeared and no one else was there, called me and said she was leaving as the shipment had not arrived and she waited alone for an hour. I told her to shop around in the little mall and keep looking for the brown UPS truck. She did and when the truck appeared at the small game store, she went over and acquired 1 of only 3 shipped. Another lady showed up, called her sister and they got the only 3 that the company shipped. This is how they are getting people, they' re limiting the shipments. At least this little store told her what day they come in, although only 3 arrived.
I asked at a Target down the street when Wii's would be in and they were very rude, "We get them, when we get them, don't know, Maa'm, you just have to keep coming in."
Motto of my story: Smaller is better. So happy, perhaps you can try the smaller game shops who will tell you when they're coming in. Since so many are looking, thought I would share our success story. The kids will have the Wii as well as the guitar that goes with it, thanks to the little guy store. I know Christmas is not only about the gifts, but I'm happy we got something the kids really wanted this year as they both take guitar lessons. Happy MIL
the system
In my opinion, I would not bother talking to any doctors or the school. The very, very last thing your son needs is for you to think something is wrong with him enough to drug him, maybe even for life.
There is one other resource:
Goertzel, V., Goertzel, M.G., Goertzel, T.G. & Hansen, A.M.W. (2004). Cradles of eminence: Childhoods of more than seven hundred famous men and women, 2nd edition. Scottsdale: Great Potential Press.
Based on this book of extraordinary and brilliant people, a happy childhood and a good mom don't make you successful. It is just the opposite. Look at any president, including the current one...not a happy childhood, but there they are busting their butts. We want our kids to bust their butts too, but it does not seem to work that way.
Read the book anyway and at least you will know that it is not your fault.
Our school system already has a
dress code in place, no belly shirts, shorts and jeans have to be a certain length, no huge baggy jeans on boys, etc. I know for a fact this is being in enforced in most of the schools becuase not only do I transcribe, I also substitute. My niece's parents were called over shorts that were to short. My son also had to change into his gym shirt because he was wearing a (green) T-shirt from Octoberfest with a beer mug (in all white) on it. That was my fault, I stupidly did not think anything of it but would not have let him wear it had I realized what it was advertising. My kids and so many other do follow the rules. I don't think they should be penalized for the few that don't. We live in a small town so we don't have many of the same problems that bigger cities have. At the first of 3 forums the other night, the auditorium was packed and not a single person spoke in favor of this. I would like to know how this will improve our education system.
I have a point system...
My kids love to come to Wal-Mart with me on the weekend and so if they get X amount of points for the week they get to come to Wal-Mart and get a little goodie. If they get X amount of points above that, they get two little goodies. For letting me work in peace I give two points, versus the one they get for everything else, so that acts as an incentive to keep out of my office. If they come in while I'm working they lose two points. This has worked pretty well thus far. For your kids the incentive might be a different kind of treat, but try it and see how it works for you!
Mainly because I am fed up with the school system here. sm
He is in the 1st grade for his second time now and still very far behind in my opinion. Teachers last year felt he needed held back and I agreed, but it is just no better this year so I just pulled him out. At this point, I hope I can get him caught up! I have priced cirriculums, but really need to wait until after the first of the year to purchase with the holidays right now so I wanted something to get him going in the meantime. He has dyslexia and ADHD and the public school setting is just not a great learning environment for him. He needs more one on one attention and help than he is getting at school with 30+ kids per teacher.
I also found this site. Any opinions on if you think it is worth joining? I think it is $19.95/mo.
http://www.time4learning.com/aboutUs.htm
Probably because our judicial system keeps
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I do believe it is the same storm system s/m
Not sure when it turns to ice though. If I remember from the radar last night, looked like southwest to northwest Ohio is going to get hit with this too. Not sure about Sunday's storm yet. I tried to pull up the radar, but it isn't showing for tomorrow yet.
My daughter is supposed to be driving up from Dayton tomorrow and going back on Sunday, but I warned her not to. She just might have to stay!
You ead my response wrong, terribly wrong
I am trying to ask what does she think it will help, not being nasty- tell me and I will try this. I would stand on my head and gargle peanut butter if I thought it would help - I wanted to know why a letter? They are thumbing their noses at the courts - commanded to appear- I was there and they werent.
Have you used a tooth whitening system?
Like Crest Whitestrips or something else? Anything other than having the dentist do it? (That's so expensive!)
Yes - Rembrandt Whitening System. sm
It works beautifully. I am a smoker, unfortunately, and my teeth are actually white, no stains, and you could never tell I smoke. At least, that's what many people have said.
It is a gel system with a mouth piece. I love it. Cheaper than Zoom in the dentist office.
As a product of the USA school system, yes I have.
Nothing more than daycare in my opinion. We should be looking at how other countries run things as far as the education system. Why is there no school in summer anyway? Wasn't the original reason so that kids could be with their families to work the harvest? School should be year 'round and the kids should come out of it SMART.
Product of USA school system.....
Both my children are a product of the USA school system and they both graduated with top honors, high SAT scores, got scholarships for college. It's what you put into it. If students don't make the effort, or parents, what do they expect the results will be?
You definitely need a strong support system sm
right now. If being closer to your family will help you trough this then that is what you should do. You will be a better mother to your children if you are able to handle this better. About the money, since your child will be in first grade that should cut down on the cost of preschool. I am sure there are wonderful other speech therapists out there. Listen to your heart and "Go Home" and be surrounded by people that love and care for you.
Your state has a kickin' cam system!
I just spent about 15 minutes at this site: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/traffic/default.aspx
lookin' at all the cameras and the different weather situations! Wow--that's incredible the HUGE differences in weather! "The man" has cameras EVERYWHERE--and that's just the ones we can see on the internet!
Sounds like the legal system
is trying to leave the discipline to the boy's parent. Is that so bad?
I did the "point" system several months
ago that I had done a long time ago and it does work. I lost 18 pounds in 3 weeks. Just stick with it.
I have a filtered water system on
my fridge. It tastes better than any bottled water I have bought, it is free, and I don't have to worry about the plastic bottles to throw away or recycle.
I once saw a thing on TV that said that bottled water is no healthier for you than tap water. You might look into a Brita pitcher or something. I think it would be cheaper than constantly buying bottled water.
I tried a system restore too, but wouldn't work.
I've had a lot of problems, even problems just getting used to the new set up. My Quick Look constantly freezes up on me too. It's very frustrating.
She needs to find out more about the system, and just how lucky she is. She is a misgruntled sm
middle classed woman, resenting any hands up those below her get. She needs to count her blessings. If she is not eligible for food stamps, then she is way ahead of the game.
Aquasana shower filter system
Does anyone have this? It sounds great and I'm thinking about getting it. Curious if anyone uses this or something similar. tia
http://www.drwhitaker.com/order/aquasanaLP_expr.asp?promo_code=K6D03001&alias_code=91215L&cookie%5Ftest=1
they have some system now that they can sign up for to track who views sm
their myspace. not sure how it works because i didn't sign up for it, but i see it posted all the time. i view my daughter's friends sites all the time. noone has said anything to me yet about it, but i do communicate with a lot of them on there as they are friends and any friends of my children are friends with me as well. they know i wouldn't going ratting off on them unless it was something majorly in the wrong.
You can't force someone to learn so that they leave the system
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The court system is a rotational door
There was enough evidence. Even the mother who got the children back had her own father testifying she did drugs, lousy mother, on and on. I am so glad I don’t have to put up with that crap anymore. This is where the welfare $$$ went, to a person who did not have enough get up and go to see the kids off to school in the morning. What a waste but lawdy, lawdy, make sure these mothers get those kids back. Glad I am not involved in the court system anymore.
Our school has an excellent system in place - sm
Every year we fill out a million forms that have to be turned in on the first and second days of schools or they get grades knocked down----they then call and email you when they have anything going on. When they first implimented it last year I got 5 phone calls (have 2 kids in school). They worked out the bugs and now I get one call and one email. It is all automated and works quite well. I also work PT for the school so they they know my face and name so that helps too. The school policy is not to let any elementary or primary school child off the bus unless a parent is there. If the driver does not see anyone the kid goes back to the school. Parents get upset with it too, if they are too lazy to come out to the bus stop, then they have to get in their car and drive to the school (not a short jaunt) and pick up their kid. Very safety conscious here. (or lawsuit fearful!)
Sadly they would probably be better off in the foster care system.
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I wouldn't want to. I'm angry that our system is set up so that this innocent man could not b
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Could be issues with 9-1-1 service and if you have a security system (sm)
I think most home security systems require a land line to work. There are some possible issues with being able to call 9-1-1 without a land line - in case you can't talk and tell them where you are.
sad we have to battle the school system that we pay for, but has she been tested for dyslexia? sm
sounds like a repeat of my daughter who is now in 5th grade and it has been a battle every since. in fact, i posted message on here few months ago regarding her. she also has dyslexia, which is quite common and sounds like your daughter may have too. we had it in our family so i knew she had it given her symptoms. school says they can't test til 3rd grade. hello, who can catch up when they are that far behind? i fought it enough i finally got someone to say, we can test earlier if the parents' request it. so they did and it has helped her tremendously til we moved this year and now she gets a "video" dyslexia class that sux and doesn't help. i am not sure how to continue battling it from this point. at her prior school though she went from failing to A's and B's with dyslexia help and extra time on assignments, verbal reading, etc. with her IEP.
I'd say yes they really did abuse
the 'emergency' but rather than contacting an attorney I would just try to recall where you might have given her contact information - call them and change ASAP and I would not even fill in that spot in the future citing your experience in these two situations and the problems it caused and if they fuss - give them a phoney name and addy and let it go. I think it is there for your safety really, secondly for them to collect should you not pay a bill - I have only been called once in my 55 years as my son got behind on his credit union car payment and they traced me down through 3 counties - so think you definitely had an unusual experience.
Abuse
Call your local shelter and they will advise you on ways to leave safely. NEVER take abuse - physically, verbally, or mentally from anyone. Forget the church kid, learn to love yourself, and lead by example for your children. If you act like a doormat, do not be suprised when you get stepped on!
You need a long time on your own before you are ready to think about entering another relationship. You are not out of your present relationship yet, but you can be if that is your decision. Best wishes to you.
Lilly
I think it is abuse.
Take the poor doggy into your house. Your cat may hide, but my guess is the dog will ignore the cat. I got my Sheltie when I had 2 cats and they all got along just fine. Please don't leave this poor thing outside, especially if it hot in your area. If you cannot bring it in, call the authorities. It is kinder than leaving her out to suffer.
It is ABUSE!
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This IS animal abuse. Thankfully, in most states animal cruelty is becoming a felony. In my state (NY) it can be punishable up to $5000. Animal abandonment is also a felony with one year in jail and up to $1000 fine. Failure to provide proper nutrients is another law that seems to have been broken.
Our animals needs protection from the elements, proper food and water (and not just a bowl to catch rain water,either) They also need love and companionship, and by this I mean not regulated to the backyard to vegetate.
Animals can think....how do explain service dogs, search and rescue, and guide dogs? Have you ever seen a dog given a task to do and watch him/her go through the paces to get it done?
As I stated before, contact an area dog club to see if they have members willing to help, or if they know of a Sheltie rescue who can help. Contact your area vets for such phone numbers. Or, you can contact me and I'll see if I can locate a Sheltie rescue that can help.
Abuse
Your post makes me very sad. Your husband is abusive. Husbands and boyfriends come and go in our lives; however, family is ALWAYS family. Please seek counseling for yourself. You cannot change him. After you become stronger through counseling, you will see the situation clearly for what it is - abusive.
Call your sister and invite her for a visit. Better yet, get a plane ticket and go see her. Don't ask, just do it.
Best wishes.
Lilly
Abuse
Every county has a program for abused woman and children. You do not have to be physically abused for them to help you. Find out the name of the program near you, Domestic violence, Reach, etc. You can call them and they will allow you to take your children and live in a house, the whereabouts is not known to anyone on the outside. It is free and they are very caring. You can start there and they will help see that you and your children are safe away from this maniac. Good luck.
There's always abuse
of the system. Making it illegal doesn't stop that. There are a lot of drugs out there that are, in my opinion, worse than marijuana as far as addictive qualities and doctor's prescribe those drugs routinely and easily for things such as back pain which is not life threatening but can be debilitating. I think it would be much easier to hold standards to legal medical use marijuana than it would to criminalize alcohol and the numerous other prescription drugs that are out there and abused.
it's abuse duh
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I think the OP's disgust was aimed mostly at "the system" in general. Picture this...
you awaken at 5:00 a.m. after only having slept 4 hours, get the children off to school, work a grueling 8 hours transcribing for incomprehenisble dictators, while in between getting the house work done and prepping dinner until you remember you have to pick up the kids and take to practice, and you need to make one last stop out of your grueling day to stop at the market and boom. You encounter what she did. Sometimes it makes you wonder why you bust your hump day in and day out, year after year, for the mere pennies this so-called profession provides while others are getting handouts. So she had a 'moment.' That's all. No more, no less. Give her a break.
Child abuse
That's your opinion - and pedofilia - obviously you did not BF or have a good bond with your children. Do you also consider it child abuse that I did not use disposable diapers? What about the fact that I worked as a wet nurse? Some things are just natural - You should read the book, The Family Bed - BF may be looked upon differently in the US - but that is only cultural - and I do not bend to cultural issues - I did as I pleased - and no one else cared or ever even discouraged me from BF my son as long as I did. Unless you've been there - you do not understand - sorry for you.
It is not abuse, but it is neglect
If you cannot take the dog in, I would definitely call the authorities. It is completely unfair and wrong for the dog to be left alone outside for that long with no shelter and no place to go. Who knows, maybe your cat and they dog will get along. I have 3 cats and a 128-pound German shepherd, and they call get along just fine together! But, if you cannot do this, just call the authorities for help/advice. I'm sure the dog would want you to do this so that it can get out of this situation!
Abuse causing this?
I had a son (I hear boys are worse than girls) who wet the bed until probably early teens. My aunt was a nurse, said NOT to belittle, get after, etc., etc. He definitely was NOT abused. Think children just do sometimes. I was told he would grow out of it and he did.
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