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Yep! Sounds like TMJ. I wake up with the sides of my tongue...

Posted By: MissouriMT on 2007-10-22
In Reply to: Has anyone every been awakened suddenly after biting your tongue in your sleep? SM - OUCH!

sore because my jaw clamps down on my tongue and sores on my cheeks from biting them.  I would also have an aching jaw for weeks at a time that required mountains of Motrin and muscle relaxers.  I finally went to the dentist and now have an acrylic mouthguard I wear at night.  I hated it at first, but boy does my jaw feel better.  No more aching, no more trouble chewing, no more sores on my cheeks and tongue!  Cost me $300 for the mouthguard cause my insurance wouldn't pay, but it was worth every penny!


Go to your dentist!




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Amen! I was biting my tongue not to respond,
as it probably would have been in anger. And to have such a hostile spirit and then go quoting scripture. Whew. Does not give a good testimony, but you sure did. Thanks for saying it so eloquently and lovingly. The sinner in me also can't help but mention that the devil could quote scripture just as well as Christ. He was -- well versed --
Has anyone every been awakened suddenly after biting your tongue in your sleep? SM
OMG. Does this hurt. I bit the very tip of my tongue really hard last night when I was asleep and now can hardly eat, drink, etc. Just curious if this has happened to anyone else. Wonder if one of those mouth guards would help. I was told I have TMJ and grind my teeth. Maybe that's what was going on!!!!   This is the second time it has happened!  Many months in between. . .   
Mainly speaking tongue in cheek, but he could remove patient info and let me listen.
:P
3-yo black lab/grt dane mix named Walter. Yes he is very tall!Short fur,spotted tongue,huge sweetie!

there are two sides
in my opinion, if you wrote him off because of a disagreement about money then YOU were/are wrong. i have basically already asked this and you have yet to respond.... have you ever owned up to your part of what has contributed to this dysfunction? it seems to me, from reading your posts, that you blame EVERYONE but YOURSELF for everything. dad was a deadbeat, son is ungrateful, daughter is spoiled... oh wait... i stand corrected. your hubby is absolutely wonderful.

you also mentioned above that you could not be happier with your life... well that is one very sad sad comment. i have a daughter and a son myself and i can't imagine my life being complete and happy without them in it.
I AGREE WITH BOTH SIDES . . .
I know these kids need attention, there are SO MANY needy kids out there, but you have to PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN. I have been in too many instances where the child manipulates and the parents see no wrong with what they do . . . it has been very hard to explain to my children why these kids are bad news. They can show a good front, get the sympathy and then BAM . . I have also learned from the past 12-1/2 years of being home with my children, that we cannot take care of everyone else's children . . been there done that. It's a sad, sad situation . . . and only getting worse.
2 sides to the story

First of all I think there's another option that neither you or your sister are seeing, home health aide.  Look into it re: insurance etc.  I can see where both of you are coming from.  I don't know your sister's financial situation or how far she has to drive to see your father.  I think that she probably feels she is working hard to earn her paid time off but if she has to use it all to take "everybody" to the doctor what will happen if she needs to go to the doctor herself or wants to take time off for a vacation or mental health day.  You have to admit she has a point. 


My advice would be not to alienate your sister.  You are going to have to work together to take care of your father.  I would arrange a time for both of you to sit with your father and lay out the facts.  With little to no eyesight, he simply cannot live completely independently any longer.  If he wants to stay at home then either hire a home health aide or a live-in caregiver or one of you would have to move in with him.  Avoid the word nursing home and instead suggest an independent living facility where there is assistance with daily activities such as preparing meals.  Be open and honest with each other.  You have your own separate lives and not only do you not want your father to feel like he is a burden, you also do not want to feel burdened.  With the cost of gas these days, your sister certainly has a valid point.  As far as her popping to Wal-Mart and the mall, she could have perfectly viable reasons for going to Wal-Mart including grocery shopping or perhaps purchasing your father's medications there on their $4 plan.  The mall may be her escape mechanism. 


You both sound stressed out over this situation and you both need to take care of yourselves first and foremost before you can be expected to care for someone else.  Good luck to both of you and remember that you both love each other and your father and only want the best for everyone.


There are several sides here, listen!
You had pain - you had suffering - you don't want to be alone. Set some rules, don't have any alcohol in the house at all. If anyone wants to visit at the holidays, they'll have to drink tea or coffee. That's what I do and barely anyone comes. So case closed as far as that goes. No one is saying you're a bad person, what they're saying is don't write your Mom and your Grandmom out of your life because you are punishing yourself. You are in the medical profession or associated with it. You know this goes on all th time in most families that will admit it. The posters who tell you to get over it mean well, they want you to have a family. You set the ground rules. Your OP said you want to forgive but cannot forget. You have gotten off the track here, read your OP again to yourself. Give them another chance with your rules, that's all people are trying to get across to you, according to your OP. Get back on track with the forgive thing and you will be happier. Just set the rules. Believe me, we've been there and just haven't posted what we've been through. Your story sounds familiar. There were no rules to protect children like there are now. You mom must have gotten the same treatment and her mom or they never would have done the behavior. Hate the sin and not the sinner is all anyone said here. They're just trying to shake you into reality before you spend a lonely holiday. If they don't keep their side of the bargain, then you have to tell them, not us. It's up to you, you asked for opinions and you may not like what you got, but you asked and people answered. God bless you and your son. Try to have a happy family holiday if you can.
Wake up! Obey? What is she a dog?
Grrrrr
Wake up and do yourself a favor....
dump him and move on! There seem to be no redeeming qualities about him. You are either head over heels in love, afraid to leave or blind. You CAN do better, you have to want it and not allow yourself to be treated as a non-entity.
Did you ever just wake up and be done with the drama?
I am 40 years old and have always tried to make everyone happy but lately I have had the attitude that I am not everyone's mother and it is not my job to make everyone happy.  I  have friends that I have cared dearly for and tried to help and they just will not step up to the plate and stop the drama.  I am tired of the drama and I feel like I just am not putting up with another minute of it.  I know some feelings will be hurt in the process but I work hard to keep my own life stable and I am tired of getting sucked into other people's dramas.  My resolution is that I am not being anyone else's mommy unless they are actually a child!!
lol. Made me think of wake-up sex.
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Sometimes when trying to wake up you get "stuck" between (sm)
being awake and a sleep for a few seconds and your brain is aware of waking up but you are not yet fully awake and you feel paralyzed. I am sorry for your fears and concerns, and in my 20s I thought similar things and was afraid a lot. But honestly, why would aliens want to pinch your butt? It is just an altered state of consciousness you are in. I am not completely against the idea that there could be some spirit involvement, but I honestly don't think aliens want to hold you down and pinch your butt :-). I think you should look up sleep paralysis and if you are still afraid, listen to the woman who gave you the spiritual advice below.
Wake Up Call
Wake Up Call lyrics

http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/m/maroon_5/wake_up_call.html
It's time to wake the old boy up
It's time to wake the old boy up. Go out of your way to make his evening special, when he wakes up to what he forgot. Give him a little grace and tell him he can make it up this weekend when he takes you out for dinner and what ever YOU want.
Forgive him and spank him at the same time :) He will LOVE you for it.

And there needs to be "respect" on both sides. Neither should be "serving" the other! Yo
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You are cracking my sides, these posts
are soooooo funny, not the BF nut but the others. Thanks for the laughs.
This is a hard topic for me - I see both sides (sm)
I have had prayers answered, but I have seen such suffering too and I know those people have cried out for help. You can always ask, but you never know if it is going to be God's will to solve the problem for you or not. I don't see how you can have blind faith that your problem will be solved when not all problems that are prayed about are solved.
Good reminder about the two sides SM
I'm not condoning the animal kicking; it's wrong and there's no two ways around it, although I have to admit that when I have been trying to go in or out of the door without coming under siege by the dogs, my foot has swung- not hard enough to do any damage whatsoever but enough that it clears a path- but my dogs are small and low to the ground so the arm or shoulder that I might use to push past my big dog converts to a foot or a leg to move the little guys.

That being said, what I'm hearing as an undercurrent is that you live either in a rural or semi-rural area, and you have decided you want to move to the 'burbs and have convinced the kids that they want to move to the 'burbs, and everybody is nagging at your husband to get them out of the wasteland he calls a home and move them to the civilization of the 'burbs. Much like the rest of the animal kingdom, backing a man into a corner is going to bring about a reaction, and the whole overboard on the hunting thing may be him thumbing his nose at your suburban ideal.

Also, there are a lot of people who when they recently get into a new hobby or past-time go just a bit overboard. I myself have about 300 jigsaws down in the basement from when I thought that would be fun (only about 50 of them ever completed). My son has a collection of stuff from his martial arts phase that now sit in the back of his closet. My ex has owner's manuals and extra light bulbs and a million parts for that period when he was restoring his 1950s pickup truck. And I won't even talk about all the crap I have from various crafts I decided I was going to take up at a given time.

If you're looking for a reason to dump him and move to the suburbs, I guess his hunting is as good a reason as any. But obviously, at least to me, there are other issues, and I agree that if you want to save this marriage, counseling is the way to go.
I've dealt with this on both sides.

I have 3 boys.  My oldest son is very giving and caring (sounds like your daughter).  He's been bullied a few times.  Different responses apply to each individual bully.  Some bullies can be dealt with best by the school or their parents.  These are usually the kids who come from good homes and their parents don't always know what happens when they're not around.  I generally deal with the parents if they're level-headed.  If not, I go straight to the school. 


Other bullies come from parents who don't give a darn what they do.  These kids are the hardest to deal with.  I have had to face these bullies myself.  I flat out told them if they continue to pick on my son or bully him, I will call the police and they will be dealt with as a juvenile deliquent.  This seemed to stop things pretty quick.  I also followed that up with the letting school know what was going on because I had a feeling the child might pick on my son when I'm not there.  The school was great about this and were well aware of this bully's behavior.  It alerted them to keep a closer watch on my son at recess when this kid was around. 


The other side of the fence is my 7-year-old son.  I had gotten a call from his teacher early in the school year that he was bullying a couple of smaller kids.  My son had a late birthday, so I held him for kindergarten, making him a year older than most of his peers.  There didn't seem to be any problem in kindergarten, but by first grade, he realized that he was bigger than most and could use this to his advantage.  From that first call I got from his teacher, I made it very clear to him that I would not tolerate bullying from him.  I also told him the school would be watching him and if I hear any reports of him bullying others, I would punish him at home as well.  Other than a few minor kid things, he's been pretty great.  I even explained to him that because he was bigger than the little kids, he needed to protect them and watch over them like a big brother.  He's come home a couple of times and told me how some older kids were picking on his friends and he stepped up and told them to knock it off.  I was very proud of him and needless to say, he has a lot of "girlfriends" now. 


My point here is that not all parents know what their kids are like outside of the home.  It's very possible this girl's mother had no idea.  Unfortunately, she was already hurt and angry when you talked to her and it probably didn't help things.  I would suggest sticking with the teacher from now on with this one, and in the future, bring any problems immediately to the teacher's attention or the parents (depending on their temperament and how well you know them).  Most importantly, I have also taught my children to stand up for themselves, use a firm voice, but walk away if it's just words and we'll deal with it together.  The only time I allow my children to hit is if they're being physically hit and the other child won't stop.  Our school has a zero tolerance for fighting, and it just wouldn't be worth getting expelled otherwise. 


Hang in there.  She's only 8 -- the really bullying starts in the teen years (I'm remembering mine), not being popular enough or having money or wearing cool clothes or being too smart or not thin enough.  It goes on and on.  In that case, I'm glad I have boys.  They get less catty as they get older (I hope).


I've lived it, both sides and it goes both
I've been on both sides and I have seen stepchildren thrown in the middle, guilty parents on both sides. I have seen the new single mom (now married mom) want her husband all for herself and act SHOCKED when she realizes she can't have him all for herself...it's not always a fairytale ending. It does sound like the child is playing her and it's obvious why, but I witnessed first hand a grown woman manipulate her stepchildren and husband, until she had both turned against her. Instead of expecting all the attention, perhaps your time would be better spent with your stepson NOT expecting anything from your husband, since you're not getting it, it sounds but instead, go out of your way to give him attention. Take him somewhere just the two of you and eat at his favorite fast food place, go to the zoo, something without dad. When he has to depend on just you and dad isn't there for comparison and pity, you might see an improvement for the better.
My child has been on both sides of that fence (sm)

He has been bullied before but he has gotten really good at standing up for himself.  I literally have given him comebacks that he can use if he is being verbally bullied, and have told him that while he is never allowed to start a fight he is always allowed to defend himself and even though he may get in trouble at school, he will not be in trouble at home.


One time last year (fifth grade) he was verbally bullying a boy in his class.  He said some pretty mean things.  I got the phone number to the boy's house through a mutual friend, called, and then too my son to the boy's house to apologize in person, in front of the boy's parents.  We talked for a long time beforehand about how the boy must feel to have to go to school and have someone say things like that to him, role-playing such as "how would you feel if that was you" sort of thing. He also lost computer priveleges for a week.  He has never bullied anyone else.


However, he did kick a boy in the shin earlier this year when the boy hit him and said he was going to beat him up.  My son is strong but doesn't like to fight.  I think all kids should be able defend themselves if needed though.


Breakfast casserole sides.
1. Biscuits with assorted jams and preserves, perhaps a sausage gravy boat.
2. Baked cheese grits or fried grits.
3. Cinnamon rolls/assorted pastries.
4. Blueberry or orange-cranberry muffins.
5. Hash browns or potatoes O'Brien.
6. Sausage patties.

Kids: Do you wake them up or do they get themselves up for school? sm

I've told our 16-year-old now junior in high school that she can set her alarm clock and get herself up in the morning and out the door for school, on time, this year, and if she fails to get up on time and is late for school she will lose privileges with them increasing for each time she is late.  


What about your kids?  How old are they?  Are they responsible for getting themselves up in the morning and if so, at what age did they start doing this? 


My wake-up call came a few years ago

I, too, live in a very rural area -- farming community just like yours.  My husband was working late that night and I was home alone with the kids.  My road isn't quite a dead end, but it doesn't get traveled often since it turns into a dirt lane and there's no winter maintenance on it.  I never really heard much traffic that night.  I did hear a few gunshots, but just figured it was my goofy neighbor shooting target practice.  He does that all the time.  The next morning as I pulled onto the main road (about 2 miles from my house), I noticed an ambulance heading in.  No sirens or lights.  I thought it was rather odd since there's no firehouse on that road.  I went to work that day and thought nothing of it. 


I came home from work that night and noticed a state police car coming out of my road, but didn't pay it much attention.  When I got home, my answering machine was lit up like the 4th of July.  My phone was ringing as I walked in.  Everyone wanted to know what was going on on my lane.  I had no clue but didn't have time to ask any questions b/c someone was knocking on my door.  I hung up the phone and answered the door to a state trooper wanting to ask me some questions. 


He wanted to know if I noticed anything unusual last night.  I said no.  Any traffic?  Not more than usual.  Any loud noises?  Just my neighbor shooting his guns.  What time was that?  About 9:30 or 10:00.  That's where the story gets interesting.


Apparently 2 vehicles met at the top of my lane for a drug deal that went seriously wrong.  The one couple shot the other couple and left them for dead.  They then proceeded back down my lane and up the road about a mile where the girl stopped at my friend's house to use the phone.  Not knowing her, they didn't let her in but brought the phone outside for them to use.  After using the phone, they sped off down the road.  The next morning, some hunters found the dead couple and called 911. 


This all happened just 2 days after Christmas.  Needless to say, I lost my sitter for New Year's that year.  I agree about locking your doors, but more than anything I believe your dogs saved your life.  I'm not an animal lover, but I sure do love my dog.  She barks anytime someone comes on our property.  She's not mean (a retriever/lab mix) but she is very alert.  She's the best security system out there. 


You'll wake up one morning....
skinny, wrinkled and old and think "where did the time go"? I thought the same when I was young and here I am! LOL
next time you wake up, tell him you stuck
a pickle up his while he was sleeping and he should go get it removed.
Wow! Such anger at differing sides of opinions!--sm
I don't want to change the subject here, but personally, I do not appreciate the cigarette smokers out there either, at malls, at restaurants, or even adjoinging apartments where I live and throwing their cigarette butts *in my space*, and having to smell that sickening smell coming in my patio door while they smoke, but there is little I can do to stop them. I just have to tolerate it, as it is their choice to want to die of lung cancer, etc. TOLERANCE is the word, I suppose, for the rights of others and we all should respect that. Personally, I wouldn't care if an animal were allowed inside a store. I love animals, too, and they do not cause cancer and induce second hand smoke into my space. How is an animal inflicting on anyone elses rights? I do not understand such anger and vehemence at this subject. My goodness!
My SIL fringed all the sides and didn't leave
an opening, although for young ones I really like the idea of sort of sleeping bag. You can buy fleece in all sizes so then you can decide how big you want to make it. My SIL made one for her 6Ɖ hubby so when he is on the couch he is completely covered up. BTW, I think they are beautiful and would live anything my MIL made for me. Well, she once made me a cake with rasins in it....very allergic so couldn't even pretend to like it.
My problem is our kids are the only grandkids on both sides....
so both sets of grandparents spoil them rotten...
100% English, all sides of family, all members. nm
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Do you wake up early in the AM with the beginning of pain? (sm)
My migraines were often caused by a sinus headache run amok. I would wake up early, like 4:00 AM, with a tiny little sinus headache. If I was too lazy to get up and take something for it, (decongestant with pseudoephedrine in it) and 2 aspirin, I'd wake up with an out-of-control headache at 8:00 AM that would no longer respond to anything. That in turn would usually trigger a migraine. For me anyway, the secret to preventing the migraine was getting that sinus headache under control. The best combination (for me) was 2 regular-strength Sudafed and 2 extra-strength Excedrin (or Excedrin Migraine) taken immediately upon feeling even the slightest twinge in the early morning. Then I'd go back to sleep, ND 9 times out of 10, I'd wake up headache-free.

For out-of-control migraines, (or when I was out of Imitrex), I had good results with lying down & placing an ice bag directly on the exact spot where the pain was on the top right side of my head, and PUSHING ON IT. Once the proper dilated vein or artery was getting chilled, I would feel relief, but ONLY if I remained absolutely motionless, and KEPT ON PUSHING. Under the best circumstances, I could sometimes abort the migraine in an hour or two. At at the very worst, at least it made it easier to endure.

Sometimes sucking on a popsicle helps, too! (But probably not a good idea for the sinusitis!) ;D

With a recent sinus INFECTION, I got good, though not long-lasting, pain relief with Excedrin Sinus Headache, which has no aspirin in it.

Have you tried changing brands (or permanancy) of hair colors? Maybe you're allergic to the fumes, if it's not causing your skin to break out.

Interesting Note: I refer to my migraines in the past tense because in the past 6-8 years they've gradually disappeared, and are now rare, and considerably milder. Menopause may have played a role, but about the same time the headaches began to disappear, I had been diagnosed with depression and begun taking an SSRI. SSRIs have recently been found to reduce or eliminate menopausal symptoms, and I believe it, as I never had any symptoms at all - not even a single hot flash. I notice while transcribing (especially Neurology...) that lots of people who have depression also have migraines. Coincidence? I'm starting to think not. My depressive episodes almost always coincided with a migraine, and it was impossible to tell which one might have caused the other. SO --- if SSRIs can cure hot flashes, I wonder if they might also be helping with the migraines, which are also a result of dilated blood vessel(s)??? Food for thought. Might be worth asking a neurologist about.

As for migraine PREVENTION, I learned a lot from a doctor I used to have who GOT migraines. (BIG difference between that type of doc, and one who DOESN'T get them!) He told me to avoid:
1. Strobe lights or strobing fluorescent lights.*
2. Sleeping in late on weekends if I normally get up early on weekdays.
3. Skipping meals.
4. Movies, cartoons or TV shows with bright flashing colors/lights and jerky movements.*
5. Looking at copy-machines while they are photocopying.*

* (This is because migraines are believed by some doctors to be related to epileptic attacks - the aura, that post-ictal feeling afterwards, etc., and some epileptic attacks can be triggered by strobes and flashing lights. I've even had them brought on by driving along a highway with frequent, intermittent changes from sun to shade caused by a row of tall trees on one side with the sun behind them.)

One more "handy hint", then I'll shut up! You know how when you have a migraine attack, and one by one have to cross things off your day's "to-do" list, including social commitments? And when you call to cancel, people treat you like a malingerer, telling you to just "take an aspirin" and "shake it off?" Or even getting angry and yelling at you? Well, I got tired of that, and started telling folks I had the FLU, instead. Same symptoms, but "flu" is something people can relate to and understand! (Plus they don't want to catch it from you!) ;p
Anyone here ever have spells where you just wake up at night all the time. I have had this for
about a week and I dont know why.  I am not worried or anything but I guess something is causing this.  Maybe this job gets on my nerves I dont know.  Hope it soon straightens out.
Maybe as soon as you wake up, you can take some Benadryl (or generic), that helps me. nm
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Oh, c'mon now....abstinence? Wake up and smell the coffee. :)
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My little son Alex's sleepy face when I wake him for school, and of course,,,,,sm
watching the antics of my crazy Jack Russell Terrier with the new kitten, they pull tricks that would freak out the Mind Freak, it is a riot!!! (New Englander here, too!)
Anyone find as you get older you get a more interrupted sleep pattern and sleep less and wake up
more at night.  Any suggestions for this.
You may be, from the sounds of your posts, sounds like an *illegal*
and that in itself is a crime. Nobody else would take 65.00 for an entire day slaving/laundry, heavy cleaning, etc. LOL. Nah, I don't think so. I'm just saying, what it sounds like to me. : )
He sounds wonderful...sounds like you two have a relationship (sm)
based on love and nothing superficial at all. I'm glad you appreciate him and are so grateful for him. Best wishes & continued happiness to you both :-)
Sounds like you are doing everything right...

Hang in there.  It sounds to like you are doing everything right.  I totally agree that kids are under too much pressure these days and that they certainly need to be given more time to just be kids.  Being a single mom I try make sure that my children grow up to be responsible adults with good morals and values, but I also make sure that they have their space so they have a chance to make their own choices (when possible) and see the consequences of those choices.  Being a parent is certainly not easy and doing it in today's society is stressful to say the least. 


As for your neighbor, I think she could take some lessons from you.  Good luck and keep your chin up!!! 


Sounds to me like . . .
she has the attention she wanted, it's almost like you took her bait. She sent you nasty Emails and now you are begging her to forgive you. You know the the saying "Don't cast pearls before swine". Sounds like she can more easily respond to the negative rather than the positive. Anyway, what would you do if she forgave you? Be her friend again? Until she changes her heart, you're better off, keep your distance. She sees your goodness as weakness. It's probably fun for her to make you uncomfortable. Maybe deep down she is jealous of you. Don't hate her, be sad for her. Don't fall into her games.
sounds like a CC I used to have, which did--sm
pretty much the same thing. They said it was their *annual fee* and, like you, I just paid it to keep the peace and close the account. Personally I think it is a scam just to get a few more dollars out of you, but how do you prove it and who do you complain to??? I don't have credit cards any longer either. Learned my lesson too. what a rip!
Sounds like (sm)
your FIL has two abled bodies to care for him already.  Why should you go back?  It would probably be nice if you checked in once in a while and took your 2-year-old to visit, but moving back sounds like it would put a strain on things.  Your husband may be feeling guilty and feels the need to "help".  Explain to him that helping is taking some groceries once in a while or offering to pick-up meds, etc.  You, your husband, and child would be probably a breath of fresh air once in a while if you were to just visit on occasion.  Moving back seems a little like overkill, but it is tough because when it is family you want to give it your all!  Also, there is one in every family that "freeloads".  Let them figure it out for now.  Hope your FIL is feeling better soon and hope you can find your way to be helpful without having to sacrifice your new home....  Take care and good luck... 
sounds mean . . .sm
but when my daughter and husband were pulling that on me I told my daughter it was not safe that she could die very easily in the front seat or get hurt very badly. She quit asking, daddy quit doing it. Now she is 12-1/2 and no problem there, she is 5Ƌ" and weighs about 130 pounds. But I used to get SO FRUSTRATED!!! Daddy's little girl . . . .
Don't know that one, but it sounds sm
like a good time.  if you are in for an evening away from the parks. I have friends who own Sleuth's dinner theater.  Three theaters, dinner included, plus one is only for kids, I think.  You enjoy a great dinner, and a murder mystery play, where you take part in solving the mystery.  It is right on Universal Drive and I think the website is sleuths.com
sounds like your going to anyway.
but i would urge you to proceed with caution, go very very slowly. When it seems too perfect, too good to be true, it may be wrong. One of my first thoughts is that if he is the spiritual man you think, ie, Christian, he might not have had 2 divorces -- not always the case, but often times. you both need to know what your own faults are and be careful to not make the same mistakes. More than anything (outside of knowing each other very well, nonintimately) is have real committment on both sides, the determination to stay with the marriage. i married a man with 2 divorces too -- 25 yr later we're still married. But it was sheer determination to make it work on my part, lots of prayer and such. I did endure what one should not have to, to get to this point. Once i was into it, i certainly understood how come he had been divorced twice. Wishing you the best.
Sounds like now as of this a.m.

Apparently the so-called lawyer owns a business called Hot Lips Smoochy or something like that and has never tried any cases at all.  He is apparently the executor of her estate.  Now isn't that convenient?  He tells the photographer Daddy that she lost the baby, but she winds up having a baby anyway 9 months later.  The photographer breaks it off with her because she is drinking while pregnant.  Oh my, the gossip.  She looks like she's all drugged-up on any interviews I've seen, and I saw one last night from 3 days before her death.  She is wearing dark glasses for the first part (inside), and they go outside, and she takes the glasses off.  Makes no sense.  I don't know, but what does Granny want with the baby now?  That poor baby!  So many Daddies??????  I have never seen men trying to prove they ARE the father in all of my life?  Twists and turns this story has, which I'm sure has the producers in Hollywood salivating.  There will be books and there will be moves.  Life happens, I guess. 


It sounds to me like you are not even willing --sm
to compromise on this and want everything YOUR way. What arrangement does HE want? Do you even know? You never said what HE would like. It is just my opinion, but it does not sound like you are even ready to get married, if you cannot find a way to compromise on even this small detail. Good luck to you.
Sounds to me like you were just being
very thoughtful, and I bet he appreciates you as much as you seem to appreciate him. What a wonderful thing!
She sounds like quite a gal . . .
especially the part about being a practicing Buddhist. She probably marched to the beat of a different drummer. The doctors might have saved her but who knows what quality of life she might have. My mom, dad, aunts all were healthy until their 80s. They end up in a nursing home. My aunt is 90, she's really been dying for a year, they keep on prolonging it. I think death at some point may be a blessing. You're going through a mourning process. Your tears are for you, you'll miss her, she'll be in a better place. You are going to have to brace up and take comfort in your faith.
Actually should be It sounds.....nm
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