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Woman Fined $1.9 Million For Illegally Downloading 24 Songs

Posted By: gimme a break!! on 2009-06-23
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(CNN) -- A federal jury Thursday found a 32-year-old Minnesota woman guilty of illegally downloading music from the Internet and fined her $80,000 each -- a total of $1.9 million -- for 24 songs.


Jammie Thomas-Rasset's case was the first such copyright infringement case to go to trial in the United States, her attorney said.


Attorney Joe Sibley said that his client was shocked at fine, noting that the price tag on the songs she downloaded was 99 cents.


She plans to appeal, he said.


Cara Duckworth, a spokeswoman for the Recording Industry Association of America, said the RIIA was "pleased that the jury agreed with the evidence and found the defendant liable."


"We appreciate the jury's service and that they take this as seriously as we do," she said.


Thomas-Rasset downloaded work by artists such as No Doubt, Linkin Park, Gloria Estefan and Sheryl Crow.


This was the second trial for Thomas-Rasset. The judge ordered a retrial in 2007 after there was an error in the wording of jury instructions.


The fines jumped considerably from the first trial, which granted just $220,000 to the recording companies.


Thomas-Rasset is married with four children and works for an Indian tribe in Minnesota.





LINK/URL: http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/18/minnesota.music.download.fine/index.html


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Downloading music

You have to download the music to your computer, then you can save it on the CD.  I use an iPod, but they do have restrictions.  IPods are set up as MP4 files rather than MP3, so you can't transfer the music back and forth from an iPod to say, a Zune.  I love the iPod and iTunes, though.  I'm big on the instant gratification aspect of being able to download the music, movies, and TV shows that I want.  I have 2 iPod Video and I use them both quite a bit.


About the free music - I don't know about those.  It's my understanding that any free music site is basically illegal (I could be wrong, though).  I've always paid for mine, so I don't know much about it.


Downloading music questions - sm

Very new to this so need suggestions.


Can I download music to a CD -


Is an MP3 player or an IPOD a better way to go and which of these is the best


Any good sites to find music for free


Thank you


For free downloading, I like Limewire. - sm
You can't download directly to a CD. But using a site such as Limewire, you can download it to a music library on the site. Music files can also be transferred from the shared library at Limewire into your own music folder on your PC, too. For me, that makes them easier to transfer to a CD. Then you can put together a play list and burn it to a CD with your CD-burner.

I have a Creative Zen MP3 player, but to be honest, I've never uploaded music to it, so hopefully another reader has those answers. (I bought the Zen used from a friend who has to have the LATEST in techie gear. It was already loaded with music, and I like his taste, so as of yet, since I havent even heard everything on the player, I haven't needed to add anything more. I have so many CDs I've burned over the years, plus my car has a CD player in it, that even though it's becoming a tad obsolete, I still prefer my CD player. (Plus the batteries last much, much longer than the ones in my MP3 player), so most of the time, unless I remember to recharge it, my MP3 player is usually dead. (Or "dormant"?) ;D

If you need help, a good source of that is teenagers! They know everything when it comes to downloading music!
as well they should be fined
and you bet your sweet patoot I will report anybody i see not picking up their dog crap. I wouldn't let my kid leave his toys or trash out on the playground, why would you let your pet leave something 10 times as nasty on the grass? people are so lazy it disgusts me
Downloading music/spoiled musicians and athletes
sbMT wrote: "cheating consumers for decades by selling tapes, cds and albums with only 1, maybe 2, good songs on them out of 10-15 songs. Remember back when you'd buy an album, and MOST of the songs on it were good?"

Yeah, actually I do remember the time. You would actually listen to the entire album. Or, if you wanted, just buy the 45.

Now you have to wait for "the best of" to come out in order to get more than a few good songs.

But I do agree that these musicians and sports stars income has gotten out of control.

What athlete truly is worth $12 mil a year? The QBs and WRs are usually paid that salary if they're really good. I loved Randy Moss when he was a Viking, his faults and all but what they paid him is outrageous - plus they just upped the NFL salary cap so the salaries will be even higher. And I truly think that if Moss stays with a QB that is good, he will break all of Jerry Rice's records.

However, I grew up watching quarterbacks like Indian Joe Kapp, playing with one bar across his helmet and taking big time hits from players like Deacon Jones like his famous "head slaps". They didn't baby the QB like they do now. Good grief, if you touch him with your fingertip 0.007 seconds after he releases the ball, it's a 15 yard penalty. Sissies. Go back and watch some football from the 70's. That was real football, not the prima donna crap you see today.

Now I'm sounding like an old fogey but I do miss the good old days of good music and good football. And yes, I still do watch football and root for my beloved Vikings every year but it disappoints me that the game has evolved the way it is and there are so darned many rules that the refs end up deciding at least one game a season with a bad call.

As far as music, heck - would you ever buy a copy of Pink Floyd's The Wall and not listen to every song? Any Zeppelin albums out there that haven't been worn down (entire album) by repeated playing?

OK. I'll get off my soap box now. ;-)
Why were you fined for him not going to school? nm
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I think the recording industry should be fined for
cheating consumers for decades by selling tapes, cds and albums with only 1, maybe 2, good songs on them out of 10-15 songs. Remember back when you'd buy an album, and MOST of the songs on it were good? Then RIAA, the middlemen, and managers got even more greedy than they already were, and if an artist wrote 15 good songs, instead of putting all or most of them on an album, they'd put only 1 or 2, and fill the rest of the album up with cr_p that wasn't any better than most teenage garage bands could produce. All the while continuing to raise the price of the product. So to get all 15 good songs, you'd have to buy anywhere from 10-15 albums. Rip-off to the max. I have no sympathy for the recording industry, or for their heavy-handed tactics with the public.

Most of the recording artists are GROSSLY overpaid for what they do. Kinda like most baseball/football players. I don't feel sorry for any of them.
dunno what state you're in but NEVER was I fined

Well, I did file quarterly for about 3 years but not one time in over 7 years of paying yearly was I ever fined  by the IRS.  I don't really think STATEs have anything to do with it so please ignore my subject line *lol*.......Perhaps you owed or something from prior?  Perhaps not.   I paid in one lump last year an estimated tax upon asking for my first extension ever - and they returned NEARLY all of what I had sent in - I over-guestimated.......by a milestone...


I've never paid and quarterly and never been fined either
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the best repellant is to call the HOA and the city and get them fined!
I am having the same problem. I have a small dog and I religiously pick up the poop; just had a new neighbor move in one condo over and they have a dog they don't even come outside with - just leave the back door open so it can come in and out on its own. Of course, everyone sees me out walking my dog and are assuming that it is my dog leaving the presents all over the lawn.

I am very upset about it myself - if I scoop the poop, they should also!

But back to your problem, the animal control office should be able to talk to them and in my city if they warn them twice, the third time they start fining them.
I don't know, this post down below has me thinking. What are your thoughts, woman to woman. sm
If your spouse came to you and said he was having an affair, would you be more upset if it was with a male or female? For me, definitely a female!  If it were male then I would think that it had absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with him. I would be devastated if he were with another woman. Another poster below said she would be more upset if he were found with a male.  What about you?
songs
Anything by Donna Summer to dance to and Pointer Sisters.  During dinner how about John Denver or Tom Jones???
Hey, songs just for me...

Haha


Songs

I'm glad you found your song. Just wanted to pass along a good website if that happens again.  You just type in whatever words you know and they find the song.  I have it in my favorites.


FindMeATune.com 


songs
I used I Love You by Climax Blues Band.
Same Songs, but

Just thought I would tell you that we named our cat after him.  He was Dylan


B-O-B.  He was our favorite cat of all time.  Then, we had Marley B-O-B.  We had


Redford  B-O-B, Newhart B-O-B.  If we get another cat we may name him Eubanks


B-O-B.   Dylan was a one of a kind cat and we miss him the most. 


That isn't the guy that sings the songs.
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Christmas songs

I HATE songs that are so obviously made to jerk on our heartstrings!!! I've got Sirius radio on playing Christmas music and it's playing The Christmas Shoes right now. I HATE that song!!!! WHY do they think that we need music to reduce us to a big quivering puddle of tears during a season that can do it all by its self if we aren't careful???


I love most Christmas music, but songs like this just make me irritable!


 


It was way more than 24 songs, but to keep it simple (sm)
that is all they decided to use in the case. I believe she was downloading the songs to a website where people pay to be a member and then can download songs. I don't think she was just downloading them to listen to at home, but think she was actually conducting a criminal activity, knowingly.
Upbeat, toe-tapping songs
Songs that make her want to dance....like "Maniac" and "What a Feeling" from "Flashdance", the theme from "Footloose"....I'm sure there are more but it's late and brain no workee so good...
Wedding/Reception Songs

What are some of your favorite wedding/reception songs?  I'm planning a quick, simple wedding and am compiling a list of songs for the wedding and reception.  Thanks.


Good BDay party songs?
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I agree unless Lakeisha picks better songs...sm
like Simon said, she hasn't been as strong since she did the Dream Girls song that wowed us, and if she doesn't pick better songs the other 2 ladies will knock her out.
All of Adam's songs are starting to sound exactly
alike. I think he peaked too soon & that's all he's got. The same predictable screams in every song... I think it's really getting boring.
The judges picked awful songs all the
way around last night, I thought. None of them were suited for the songs chosen for them & they were bad songs... And speaking of judges, I hope Cara or Kara is GONE next season. She gets on my last nerve.
Thanks a million!
I started getting this error message and when I called my computer people they said I had downloaded something that corrupted my operating system. Who knows what they would have charged I had unhooked everything and taken it in and my computer is only a couple months old. Cannot thank you enough. Was just breezing through here and came upon the post. Downloaded the patch and it works.
yep, 6 million

and no, she didn't keep working.  and surprise, the father of her six children all of a sudden decided they should finally get married. 


i'm still miffed at her, cuz now i'll never win.  who ever heard of anybody who knew someone who won the lotto winning the lotto? 


Taken from an internet site. Good songs for wedding. sm
Beautiful Wedding Songs


A Moment Like This - Kelly Clarkson
All My Life - America

Beautiful In My Eyes - Joshua Kadison

Because You Loved Me - Celine Dion

Close To You - Maxi Priest

Endless Love - Lionel Richie & Diana Ross

For You I Will - Monica

Forever And For Always - Shania Twain

From This Moment - Shania Twain

I Could Not Ask For More - Edwin McCain

I Do Cherish You - 98 Degrees

I Don't Want To Miss A Thing - Aerosmith

I'll Grow Old With You - Adam Sandler

It's Your Love - Tim McGraw & Faith Hill

I Will Always Love You - Whitney Houston

I Will Be Here - Steven Curtis Chapman

Just The Way You Are - Billy Joel

Nothing Compares To You - Sinead O'Connor

Power Of Love - Jennifer Rush

Spend My Life With You - Eric Benet

When I Fall In Love - Celine Dion

When You Say Nothing At All - Ronan Keating

You Are The Love Of My Life - George Benson

You're My Home - Lea Salonga

You're The Inspiration - Chicago

Wedding Ideas - Wedding ideas for a beautiful wedding

Heard somewhere he would get $45 million
as being the executor or whatever the heck he is but I think more than that he probably should get some time. ET each night is chocked full of Howard, his sister, his brother and last night they were saying he is totally financed by his parents-- that is until he gets his grubby hands on that blood money. He is such a low life hanger-on, really a despicable type of slime.
Your father was a 1 in a million.
A lot of men would have left being walked on and demoralized but your dad didn't want to leave you to suffer it alone. Usually, even when a mother isn't fit to raise a goldfish, mothers still get custody of the kids, and that's sad. There are a lot of great dads out there and they really need to be given the praise they deserve. What a great dad you had. I can see why you cherish him so much.
I should say maybe $2.5 million home
it is really beautiful from the outside.  You can see there from the outside there is a very long hallway upstairs that goes from 1 end of the house to the other.
500-800 Million and 12-15 years
to get something through the development process and submitted to FDA for approval. There is no incentive for the pharma or biotech companies to test an all natural product for safety and efficacy as they can't patent it and have exclusive rights in selling it.

I can count on one hand the number of prescriptions I've taken in my life. I don't understand why people will take a med if its something that will run its course and your body will take care of. My doctor is great that way. He'll tell me there is a prescription, but if I'm willing to give it time I don't need to take anything. Much rather that...my belief is that every med has some level of toxicity. I'll suffer through a headache or achy bones before taking an over the counter. There is a point where I'll give in an pop a few pain relievers, but it has to be really bad.
I am less than $100K way from a million-dollar
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ET paid 4 million is what I read

I used it a million yrs ago when I had very long hair. It
jakl;djld
I think Judy earns 65 or 95 million
I love Judge Judy (though she is a little loud *LOL*)...
My state's Powerball is up to 75 million! NM

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The Mega Lotto is $216 Million Dollars
 if you won that much money?
I was going to say a million dollar home today
in the NE isn't all that spectacular, sadly. And for only 300,000 you can get a fixer upper! Isn't that special? lol
How about that guy on crack and heroin that won 27 million and blew it all
or should I say snorted/shot it all. That story was so unbelievable it was almost like it was set up as an experiment. Yikes.
Nativity scenes. Have a million of them out at Christmas. nm
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Couple wins 270 million lottery. sm
South Georgia couple wins big.  He only bought 2 tickets, spend $2.00 and won 270 million.  They interviewed him on TV - they were living in a mobile home.  So happy for them.  Nice to see someone that humble and down to earth win. 
I would pay a million to watch my MAN give birth!!!! LOL
no msg
I am sick and tired of the umpteen million calls every day

I am on a DO NOT CALL list and I cannot turn off my phone for another few days until the kids are out of school for the summer (school needs to be able to reach me in case of emergency.)


Today, I have had THREE organizations call me for donations to cancer research.


One call from the National Federation for the Blind. 


One call from the National Firefighters Association.


This is a typical day. 


I have caller ID but the school number shows private so when these places call and also show private name/number, I answer them.


How many times does one have to say DO NOT CALL ME AGAIN?


Criminy! 


Okay, I'm done venting.


 


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woman to woman talk sm

This has nothing to do with being a christian, it has more to do with group dynamics. I have to deal with it all the time with 6 women in an in-law situation. They are narrow-minded Bible-thumping bigots.I happen to be of another "denomination" and I do attend every function of theirs, weddings, funerals, all of it, receive their communion. I have had my parents die, lost my younger sister and many things happen where they could have reciprocated, yet they will not "step foot" in my church. So where is all their faith, they certainly are not practicing the do unto others. I can relate, it is a horrible way to live. Thank God, I had psychology courses and know about group dynamics, I am in the middle of a herd mentality. I could go on forever, they even have "interventions" when someone in their family wants to marry or date someone not from their denomination. They are awful. I know your pain! It's not your imagination, they hide behind their cohesive "numbers game," one speaks and all the others agree in unison. No one has a chance against this mob. It's tough to be your own person, lots of tears. And guys think it's all in our heads - NOT!  Hang in, perhaps you'll have a Divine Intervention somehow.


 


 


 


 


 


 


Kangaroo. cat woman or wonder woman?
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Bill Gates is paying $100,000 million or is it billion? Not easy
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Powerball's up to 300 million! Grab a ticket and good luck! nm
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No, definitely not -- if this had been a woman - sm
asking you the same question would you have thought twice about it? He was a rep of the store asking if you found what you were looking for, since it happened to be a bra, I think he phrased it correctly, but then again he did not take into account a person who would take a question the wrong way. He has learned the hard way never to question a lady about her underwear that is for sure. You need to learn to let things roll off your back. If he had leered at you and said, hey lady you find a bra for those nice **** of yours, then yeah, that would be harrassment and not good customer service. Learn to chill some and not worry so much.
I know of a woman who actually did this
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