While breastfeeding in public does not necessarily
Posted By: Wannie on 2006-11-16
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offend me, I think some discretion is absolutely necessary and some things are better done in private. God also made our bodies for procreating, but we wouldn't want to see that done in public, either. JMO. 
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The poster meant breastfeeding is primative in PUBLIC in our society today.
I agree with her. I don't have a problem with someone breastfeeding their baby, and I mean BABY, not toddler, but discretion should be used. That woman knew full well that she was going to be on a plane. She could have bottled her breast milk for her TODDLER instead of making others uncomfortable around her. It's the 20th century, not the dark ages, and not Ethiopia. And, this lawsuit crap only makes the mother look even more like a beatnik dingbat.
Breastfeeding
As for school - he was born in September and in my state he could not start school until he was 6. My first child weaned herself at 6 months and then went to a bottle for a while and then to the cup. My son went straight from the breast to a cup and food - I never spent a dime on formula, baby food - and very little on diapers - as I used cloth diapers with both of my kids. I was also a wetnurse during the time that I breastfed my son - to make extra money - they don't pay military families enough - and this was a good way to make money, as well as provide superior nutrition to other children. My opinion is that if you do not approve of breastfeeding or BF in public - look the the other way - God gave you breasts for two reasons - sexual pleasure and BF - I'm sure you would not be up in arms if I told you that I allowed my husband to pleasure me by s*cking my nipples. By the way - my areolas are larger than a 1/2 dollar and my breasts stayed large after breastfeeding - rather than decreasing to nothing - a plus to my husband now.
breastfeeding
Breastfeeding an EIGHT YEAR OLD??That is truly not accetable - that is really gross
breastfeeding
My daughter weaned before she was 3, on her own.
breastfeeding vs bottlefeeding
OK, my oldest son (almost 20) is an exceptional young man also, yet he was bottle fed. My daughter (almost 17) is a very bright, beautiful, and extremely respectful and responsible young lady, also bottle fed. I don't think the way children received their nutrition as an infant has as much impact on what kind of an adult they become as does the general parent-child relationship, which also has to include knowing when to let go and let the children grow up and become independent persons. I did breast feed my youngest (8 YO) son for 2-1/2 years, and he too is a precious, intelligent, and respectful child...because we raised him and his brother and sister to be that way. The simple fact that a child was breast fed does not make that child better than the bottle fed child...
Yah, notice it is a BOY she is breastfeeding...anyone think about that?
LOL
I'm not necessarily for
lowering the legal drinking age to 18, but if it's not then they should raise the legal age for killing in a war to 21! If an 18 year old isn't mature enough to handle a beer, I dare say he isn't prepared for what killing another person could do to him.
When he said the first, no not necessarily
that would have told me everything. Sure he is looking for someone. He gave all answers that say so, like none available (means he is looking) and havent found anyone risky. Lady, you have a problem. There would have been a lot of racket at my home.
Not necessarily
Doctors are generally proactive when there is any borderline blood sugars going on, but they usually say to watch the diet, do some exercise, etc., for prediabetes. I don't think it has to do with the low income status; a high blood sugar is a high blood sugar. If it is diabetes, it needs to be treated regardless of socioeconomic status.
Now, a sugar of about 300 is high, especially if she hadn't eaten in the hours prior to having the blood sugar taken. However, be sure to ask if she had washed her hand (or whatever part was tested) or used an alcohol swab before testing. When I worked the floor, I remember a nurse (not me!) who took a gentleman's blood sugar without cleaning it. It was in the 400s. She decided to do a retake with cleaning it properly, and it was below 100. He had residual food that we couldn't see on his hand from lunch, which showed up on the blood sugar. If your mom is eating candy or anything else and hadn't washed her hands, it very well could show up with a very elevated (albeit falsely) blood sugar.
When I saw you say morning headaches, I immediately thought of a sleep problem rather than diabetes. It's hard to say on the internet!
Medicines she takes could cause elevated blood sugars, too.
Let us know what happens! A true blood sugar of 300 needs followup.
Not necessarily disagreeing with you but
are we just ingrained to beleive that men make better leaders. I am no advocating Hil for prez, but I do believe that we do or will have in the future many women capable of running this country. I guess I am disagreeding wtih you, but JMO.
You wouldn't necessarily know but (sm)
First of all, it is very rare that is passed on to children from their mother before or during birth. Second, there are not really treatments for children - the treatments used for adults are so harsh that they feel children cannot handle them. I have it from a blood transfusion I got 27 years ago and have had no health problems from it, did not give it to my husband, have two children. Had my first child tested and that was negative. Have not had my second child tested at all. I will be happy to talk with you more about this if you would like to e-mail me.
they do not necessarily come from India
The emails may *look* like they come from India in the headers but know that spammers use proxies to camouflage their identity and camouflage their computers......
Open up the headers and forward the entire email with the headers showing to spam at uce dot gov. Only do this if these are in your personal or business email account. Not necessary to do it if you are using a generic email account such as hotmail or yahoo. That is the email for the govt to go after spammers.
Been getting these types of spam emails for 12 years now!! But I learned and I never give out my most personal email account except to the very chosen few....and as a result I never or very rarely get a spammed email in that particular account.
I can't necessarily say she should be released
but these people were basically brainwashed by Manson and definitely full of drugs.
Did she show compassion for Sharon Tate and her unborn child, no, but does that mean others can't show compassion. Is a lifetime or 37 years enough, not necessarily, but it is true that California is paying mega-bucks for her care. If she can't even set up what is her life going to be at home?
This is not an open and shut case. There are many ways to look at it, and I hope the judge making the ruling considers each and every avenue.
Well it doesn't necessarily have to be ...sm
northern folks. I have never been west of Texas so I don't know how people out there talk. I guess since you are from out there and you say you guys then it must be used out there to.
Now I can't see my accent being as interesting as an English accent.
I'm glad you like southern accents because not everyone does. I have been made fun of by someone from Alaska. It was very insulting.
I have a friend who lives in Las Vegas and she is originally from Texas. But she doesn't really have an accent. Anyways her dads friend's son was staying with them. He is from Alaska. Well I called and asked for my friend and he answered the phone. When he put the phone down to get her I heard him making fun of my accent and that has stuck with me and I have been self conscious now when I am anywhere else besides in the south. He had never experienced a southern accent before and I guess he just make fun of what was different.
I wasn't necessarily the money
He was a self-made millionare already due to either mining or construction. I live just across the state line from WV so he was in the news a lot, but you are right, his life is certainly worse then when it was before the lottery. I am still going to play though.
He is old-fashioned, and that isn't necessarily an excuse
I am a Pastor's wife. Well, that will probably tell you volumes in itself. He is right-wing Lutheran, and I come from a moderate Lutheran background. Well, needless to say I know what you are going through except I am supposed to set an example to the ladies at church that the man is the leader of the house and we are not to publicly or privately question his decision, because that is the Biblical way. Well, sinner or not, I think this leads to men thinking they are always right, we are not their equal, we have no say, and it becomes a control issue. So... my heart is with you. I have yet to figure out this patriarchal thing. Believe me, I have voiced many times that I am good at some things, he other things and in discipline with children, we are equal not one better than the other. I think men are supposed to act responsibly not controlling and this is where the confusion comes in. When they refuse our opinion or disrespect us, I feel they are not living up to their role as protector and are acting like babies. But then again, they say I am a Pastor's wife who needs to go to Pastor's wife school, because my opinions are for equality and I have zero tolerance for domestic abuse. I am sorry if this does not answer your question or help you, but I do want to say I sympathize and you are not incorrect. There is no reason for a man to be controlling or to be rude, senseless and overbearing. When I figure out the answer to my situation I'll let you know. All I can say is to this day publicly and at home I stick up for equality, and I do not accept abusive male behavior and I don't care who doesn't like it. Zero tolerance from me. Leads to a tense household, but it could be worse, dishonesty is absolutely worse. Sorry for the soap box. Please hang in there and keep yourself safe and happy. :)
If an employee not necessarily. MTSO will
take advantage until you burn out or quit. Take it from me. They would even let someone quit so they can get a newer person (more "willing") to do all that junk even with errors, than keep someone who they feel is unwilling to be a doormat. For the people who can do the ESLs, well they will be taken advantage of or let go for most of the MTSOs. Rare that a company won't take advantage that way, even some of the "best" around here. Only 1 that I know of (where I work) will they reward for good workers by giving other types of reports which are easier to balance it out. And I can't say where because that company gets teased way too much on here. Otherwise, be careful if you are really good. They will let you go if you are not a practicing doormat and willing to make 3.00 an ESL report per half hour. No joke.
That's what I thought too....not necessarily means yes (nm)
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I don't necessarily agree you should "wear them both out" SM
I am of the opinion that the 11-year-old should be punished as well because in my mind the 11yo probably was taunting or teasing or did something intentional to anger your 8yo and the 8yo responded. It's not fair to punish the 8yo because he chose to respond physically and not do anything to the 11yo who instigating the whole situation. The 8yo may view that as he's not allowed to defend himself or that you are playing favorites -- which I'm not saying you are -- I'm just saying both boys are behaving aggressively -- one is more PASSIVE aggressive than the other, but it's still aggression.
That's just my armchair psychology eval for ya! Good luck to you!
Not necessarily, many phone calls may have been made. (nm)
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Nope, don't necessarily need family support
I'm raising my grandchild. This has split my entire family apart - no support from mom, sisters, ex-hubby, other adult child, parents of GC... NO ONE, and I'm single and getting no child support. I am developing an outside network of friends to compensate, but it has taken 18 months to get there. I just found a babysitter I'm going to start using this week so I can actually go have a meal by myself or see a movie now and then.
Sometimes in family matters, the only one you can count on is yourself and you just do what you have to do in order to do the right thing.
I'm all for legalization (though not necessarily in favor of taxation), but (sm)
...at least if pot were the drug of choice, rather than alcohol, we'd have a lot fewer belligerent people out causing fights (though, perhaps, the shoplifting stats for cookies, chips and pop might rise ).
Fewer DUI deaths ... have you seen how slowly and carefully a pot smoker drives? LOL.
ok, if i ever see one out on its own in public,
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Public
I have to agree with "Baptist here". I think teaching in a public school would really make her shine - and public schools need teachers like her!
Public school
I have a granddaughter in the mountains of North Carolina in the fifth grade, who has teachers from you know where.. They should not be in a school setting. One used four letter words and they were not love. They will not go out with the students at recess, so it is a free for all with three to five grades out there all at once. There is bullying and if she says anything, the teacher says she is squealing. I don't think when your knees are bleeding from being knocked down, it is squealing. The third grade was awful. They finally got her moved out of there into another class and the teacher was wonderful. That was about three months before the year was over and that was because they went to the superintendent of schools. Next year was bad and this year is the worse. The teacher tells the student she cannot believe the students are that ignorant, loses papers the students turn in and then gives them a zero. Her mother saved her papers and showed them to the teacher and she had some phony excuse, like she had so many papers to correct. Teachers are supposed to do that. The teacher also has a teacher's aide three times a week and there are only 15 students in the class. She also calls my granddaughter a liar when she says she turned her papers in. She says my granddaughter is to lazy to do the work. My granddaughter loves school, is on the honor roll and would have made the principal's list had the teacher not lost three papers that my granddaughter had turned and gave her the grade she deserved instead of giving her a zero three times. Don't say go to the school and the principal. When they go, the teacher acts so nice and after they leave, she picks on my granddaughter and tells her not to go home and tell her parents things that are not true. The principal does nothing. They have her on a list for a private school and after paying taxes, no one should have to pay to go to a private school, but that is what you have to do. I cannot believe that all the parents do not get together and descend on the principal's office. My granddaughter loves school but not this year because of the teacher. Cannot wait for the year to be over. She has been humiliated in front of her classmates and when a classmate tries to stand up for her and tell the teacher she is not talking or doing any of what the teacher says she is doing, she tells the classmates not to try to take any sides. She is a very loving, sweet, and intelligent girl and what she has to go through every day, makes my skin crawl. When school is out, I am going to write the principal, the teacher and the superintendent of schools and tell them what I think of their teachers. If they did away with tenure, maybe the teachers would take their work more seriously. I never worked for a company that told me if I stayed with them for 10 years, I could not be fired. Ridiculous. The principal does not like to report anything is wrong because in the reports they have to send to the state board of education, the more problems the school has, the less money they get, so they do not report anything is wrong. Report cards were given out Friday and the teacher wrote that she was a very good student, and a pleasure to have her in the class. Why write that when all you do is pick on her. To protect herself when things get tough. Thank you for letting me vent.
Public School
My husband and I have two special needs children and homeschooling was the best thing we could have ever done for them. My oldest child is learning up a storm and my youngest child is going to start being home-schooled next year. We both work full-time and we still find time to homeschool. It does not take as much time as you would think. There is just you teaching your kids and it goes a lot faster and they learn faster. We thought we could not homeschool, but we were forced to as the public school did nothing for our son and now nothing for our other child. You can do more than you think you can if you have to. Good luck!
anyone who has to come to a public board like this
Anyone who has to go on a public board/forum and brag on and boast about ANYTHING- ( about A MAN, no less *L*).....just makes most posters question the credibility of such posters. Anyone who is truly happy....has no need to type all this on a public forum....nor to hang out on one....
the hubby *put you on a pedestal* so now you can reach the keyboard....*lol* -
Now really, all the nasty, antagonistic posters, and in this particular thread, should get off their mommy's computers and go outside and play because from my view, it's a spectacularly gorgeous day outside
*laughs*
PUBLIC PLACES
I love animals; however, I have a life-threatening allergy to dander. Keep your animals home, love them, and enjoy them in YOUR space.
Lilly
Public Pet Peeves
I enjoyed reading the post below about the different "social pet peeves". Does anyone else have any that were not mentioned? Let's see, we had pets out in public, children misbehaving in restaurants, and smoking outside public places. Any others?? Let's share - let yourself be heard!
Some of the public really OJ haters, myself
I watched all the trial, every last second of it and came out with the same conclusion the jury reached- NOT guilty. You and others just cannot seem to get over what a jury decides and their word is final.
It might be public knowledge but
how you obtain is another matter. You cannot get someone in a public office (as stated below) to ramble through a persons records. That my dear is against the law and that is what was said and not only that but if the person committed crimes when a child or teenager, those records are sometimes totally off limits and closed to the public. I also have people in law enforcement but if I needed information, would not have them go through the records to get for me and risk losing their livelihood.
Umm, yes, you were. You are on public board
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So what exactly has he done for the public good
in the last 30 years?
I need to vent about our public school....sm
My daughter is in the 1st grade. While in kindergarten her teacher became ill and was out of the classroom more than in it for over a month and then ended up having to leave permanently after being out for 2 months. During this time they had parapros in the classroom but all of the kids in her class got behind because of the inconsistent teaching. Finally in March they split the class up and moved the kids into other classrooms, but by the end of the year each of the 15 kids were behind their peers because of the true instruction time they had missed, through no fault of their own.
Now fast forward to 1st grade. Some of the kids had managed to catch up but others haven't, including my daughter. She is now reading on a level 3 and should be on a level 5 or 6. Math-wise she is way behind as well as her reading level is below normal. She is currently in a classroom with 27 kids and has ADD, but it is very easily managed when she is given tasks in small increments and visual cues to work with (i.e. write math problems for her and she can do them but ask her to do them in her head and she struggles).
My husband & I met with the school yesterday because of the concerns about her being behind and in the student support team meeting, consisting of the school system psychologist, special education teacher, her teacher, principal and vice principal, we were told that they don't have the resources to work with her to meet her needs and that by the No Child Left Behind federal laws they don't have to address her needs individually until she is 6 months to a year behind her peers. Why do they WANT kids to get this behind before helping them? We know she is smart - she has an IQ of 92, but she needs to have the distractions caused by the 26 kids in her classroom removed and they won't do anything about it because all other 1st grade classes have 26 kids, and the only one that doesn't have that many is a class full of kids that are learning English. We are working with her at home but it's ridiculous to send her to school 7 hours a day and then tutor her at home because the teacher won't take 2 minutes to explain instructions on a task to her. I told them that I don't want her to have to go to special education in the future because she's behind and that I'd prefer that a way to get her caught up and kept on level with where she would be should be what the goal is - not wait until she's very behind. Their response was "well over the upcoming Holidays we can send home LOTS of things for you to work on with her."
Home schooling isn't a good option for her and her psychologist has agreed that she needs the classroom interaction with other kids. If it weren't for that I'd home school her in a nannosecond, even if that meant giving up everything outside of my regular work day to educate her.
I've talked to a couple of private schools in the area and one school wasn't really any better, has 1 teacher per 20 kids in 1st grade. The other school could take her and has currently 5 kids per teacher for 1st grade with good test results . It's ridiculous that we're being forced to consider paying for private school because the public schools don't care.
I'm sure others have run into these same type of situations. What did you do - continue working with the public schools, turn to home schooling or private school?
My battle with public schools
I will try not to get to long-winded here, but I wanted to let you know my experience with public schools. My youngest of 3 boys has extreme expressive language delay. His first word was at 4.5 and was Mama. No autism, no physical reasons. In every other aspect, he was normal.
After he was no longer eligible for state intervention after 3 years of age, we paid for private speech therapy but that was killing us and our insurance did not cover it. So we decided to enroll him in the preschool 4 year old program the following year.
It was a nightmare two weeks experience. The principal of the school would not let parents walk their kids to class. I was expected to bring my 4 year old nonverbal scared child to the front door and some teacher would escort him. In that two weeks, we had many meetings trying to resolve the problems. In addition, my son began to act out in extreme ways, peeing, screaming, hitting, kicking. It was not normal for him at all.
Finally, that Friday of the second week, it all came to an head for me. My son was screaming and hiding under the steering wheel that morning. I was crying. It had been a nightmare dealing with an insane school bureaucracy to get help, my husband being no help and saying we just needed to give it more time, and my little formerly sweet son acting out so savagely.
I decided that was it. He was only 4 for goodness sake. I went in to remove him from school. I was met in the office (the only place parents could go in the building - I swear this is true!) by the principal and told that I was to leave my child there, leave, or she would call the police!
This woman was something else. She refused to listen to any of my concerns, and refused at all to let me go into the classroom! I literally begged in tears in her office to **allow** me to go to my son's class to help so I could see what was going on. Parents were not allowed to help out in school unless on special days, like field day.
A shouting match ensued - and I mean my mama bear came roaring out. My son was there with me, clinging to my leg for all he was worth, listening to the principal and I scream at each other. Because the principal literally screamed at me back. It was without a doubt one of the worst experiences in my life. Teachers came running to see what was going on...my son's teacher was there trying to calm me down. I left that building with my son and have never been back.
My husband came racing home from work, I was so hysterical when I called, fearing they would take our child away from us. There were phone calls the next couple days from the school superintendent - Oh, we're so sorry. She's a new principal. She will be talked to about this. Come back, etc.
By that time, I was in battle fatigue and scared to death of my child being taken away. Fast forward now 5 years...He is talking up a storm, reading, very good in math, and is back to his sweet and gentle self. We chose homeschooling. We didn't want to really but couldn't afford private schools.
We got swept up in a great co-op that has become our pseudo-school. He takes classes there and has made very good friends. The kids were all very accepting of him from the first and did not tease at all about his speech. Last year, at graduation ceremonies, he read a booklet so clear and perfectly pronounced. One of the mom's put her arm around me because she knew what a long journey it has been for him.
So, that's my story. Sorry so long. For my other two sons, my eldest is in high school public school. My middle son couldn't stand being in school with his younger brother having so much fun in co-op and we homeschool him too.
Non-handwashers in public restrooms...
and they are everywhere! You should be ashamed if this hits close to home!
The worst for me are spitting in public,
it makes me almost lose it and then smacking gum so loud every time your jaw opens and closes, so loud and do not even try to eat at my table and suck, slurp and go on, you gotta go!
Georgia has a no public smoking law...sm
and it's great going to restaurants, stores, etc without smelling cigarettes. Restaurants can only allow smokers if they don't admit anyone under age 18 and they have to have a ventilation system that meets a certain strict criteria with the state.
in other words, he's saying what he thinks he should say in public.
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i resigned from public news
Many years ago I realized I was hearing the same news I was hearing 10, 20, 30, 40 years before. I loved radio talk shows, which I still believe to be a very good education. I read the daily newspaper. I asked myself how it benefitted me. I realized it didn't, in fact, it was a very negative thing in my life. I tend towards depression anyway, and I don't need any help, thank you. I stopped any input of news in my home except what is necessary to be a good u.s. citizen. Politics are a monstrosity, but it's what we got. I know enough to get by and make the most intelligent choices I can for me. I don't bother watching all the campaigning along the way, though. I wait until the time is close, then analyze what's out there. Minimalization for me! I believe the world could literally fall into the ocean and I wouldn't know it until I'm going on in. By that time, so long, it's been good to know ya. :)
I meant to say I do that at a public restroom not my own.
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Think about who pays for public school.
People in the local district pay school and property taxes, so they pay for their schools. Or, more precisely, they pay for the young people in their district to be educated, since it's not just parents who pay these taxes.
So, no. Students may not freely transfer to other public districts, because their parents or guardians have not paid taxes in other districts.
In our district, we paid the taxes before we had children. We paid the taxes while our children were growing up, even though our children attended Catholic schools and we paid tuition. Now that our children are grown, we continue to pay taxes. I don't mind paying the taxes, because it's part of my civic duty to help to educate ALL the young people in our community.
But having your child occasionally cry in public is...
not a crime. My guess is that some children - not mine of course - just have sour personalities. You, of all people, should understand that!
Update on my public school situation....sm
Last week I posted frustrations with the public school not wanting to do anything about my 1st grader being behind until she is at least 6 months behind, even though right now she is "very behind" her peers due to multiple reasons, including her kindergarten teacher being out a lot of last year.
My husband & I have decided to move her to a private school, the one she went to pre-K at and where there will be a total of 6 kids in her class when she moves there at the beginning of the year. The assistant principal and teacher for her grade will be working with her during the regular school day to catch up where she's behind. Our daughter is very happy that she's switching schools and that 3 of the kids in her class there are kids she went to pre-K with.
We're planning to put our house on the market in the spring (long-term plan) and if we're able to move before the summer is over to an area where the public schools will service her better and we like the area we'll move; otherwise she'll stay at the private school until we try to move in a couple of years after our oldest daughter graduates from high school in 2008.
Thank you everyone for the feedback - it helped us in the decision making process. We're very comfortable with our decision and at a meeting with our daughter's psychologist and her caseworker yesterday they both felt this was the best thing we could do for her both short-term and after our adoption is finalized for her hopefully in January.
I'm not aware of any standards at public places
And to add to your point about Mexicans, all their dirty business is NOT only under their fingernails. Have you not heard of the gangs they have all over this country...something 13 or another they call themselves. They are viscious, ruthless people, and are going into areas where they think the local law officials won't be on to them. They try to intimidate and scare communities into silence so they can get their garbage drug trade and smuggling stuff going in silence. Our prisons are so full of illegals, they can't hold the legals, but of course, lets not gather them up and deport them back to their wonderful country...lets house and feed them, give their kids a free education better than they're getting there, free healthcare, the list goes on and on. Now, our president wants to make sure they can get SS benefits....for WHAT? In our community, you can go into Wal-Mart late in the evening and our stores are full of young Mexicans, mother, father, and always a baby, maybe 2 or 3, but where do you suppose they were born? The parents can't or won't speak English (since they want to be a loyal US citizen). My daughter teaches a school where the kids abound and their parents are most likely illegal, but until we stop this practice of giving citizenship to an illegal born in this country, this will never change. I'm with Ron Paul on this one....we can't keep a sovereign nation when we allow an invasion of our country. We can't absorb these people into our communities without major negative consequences.
I agree, let the general public take care of them; I will.
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HA! Same spider that made me fall down in public (sm)
One of my most embarassing moments!! I was in a busy public area with a park in the middle. I decided to cut through the park and walked right through a web of one of those and the spider was on my face!!! I fell onto the ground, freaking out, flailing like a madwoman. When I finally got up and realized what I had just done, I couldn't wait to get the heck out of there, but I kept shaking my clothes and brushing my hair, just in case!!
When you post a vent on public board, must be
sdf
Birth records are public but are listed under
child's name - not parents - so not sure you could find out this way.
Well, I was not on a teen-role model, not in the public eye
no one was looking to me and I got myself into trouble and had more sense than to know I wanted to nor could I raise a child at my age(by the way, not 16, older). I assumed responsibility because I took care of things, did not regret then nor now and never have. She, from what I hear, did not tell her mother until well past the time she could have gotten an abortion, sounds like she wanted to be pregnant. I have absolutely no regrets about things I have done in the past.
I didn't say 'cry in public occasionally' - I said
HUGE difference, there.
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