Which churches are you asking?

Posted By: sm on 2009-03-04
In Reply to: if you ask a church for help they ask if you are a member - funny how they always have enough to build on

I volunteer with our St. Vincent DE Paul Society at my church. We help anyone we can. In fact, we "advertise" with free announcements at shelters, soup kitchens, etc. The food cupboard that we help staff also does not screen clients. People show up asking for groceries, and we distribute what we have, no questions asked.

I know that some organizations do screen so as to try to distribute their resources wisely and fairly. But not ALL do that.

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I need help understanding ... - Not Political
- You're totally right-on with that, especially the part - I AGREE
  - Or they want to raise them so they can be killed in a senseless war!! - Rose
  - how can you spit stuff like this out your mouth? - EXAMPLES
- you need to think about what you're saying - wait a minute
  - Thought I saw a post like yours on the political board regarding grape research - Needy
    - i dont go on the politics board - actually
      - Who said anything about you shelling out any money for anything - Needy
  - if you ask a church for help they ask if you are a member - funny how they always have enough to build on
    - That's a straight lie - sbMT
      - it may be different where you live but in South - Alabama the Baptists do it that way
        Amen to that sista! Don't ask a SB church for help nm - Got the Tee Shirt
        Well my church is a SB church in South Georgia - sbMT
      - That's not totally true either.sm - xx
        Our take on it - sbMT
    - Which churches are you asking? - sm
- People don't want to be FORCED to give charity. sm - Confetti
- That's something I've never understood either - MaineMT
  - "Carol Anne -- DON'T go towards the light!" LOL. nm - NWMNMT
- There is never a happy medium - sm

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Churches are the worst.
I have more people trying to convert me to whatever they are come by my house uninvited than I do people I know. Now I open the door, tell them I'm happy where I am, I'm happy for them that they are happy where they are and that I'm working and can't be disturbed. Then I shut the door. I actually don't go to church anymore. Pretty disgusted with the whole idea really lol.

In your case, I wouldn't let them in. I think they are being extremely rude to you.

Exactly and that's why many churches have cry rooms.
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Churches should pay Taxes?

My question Do yall think Churches should pay Taxes? I see and hear a lot about some of these well to do Pastors driving MERCEDES and living in fine homes!I personally believe they should why are they exempt?

Most CHURCHES are tax exempt.
Their buildings are exempt from property tax. They have sales tax exemptions as well! There is only ONE faith that I know of that considers accepting this favor from the government to be a violation, and thus, their churches do NOT have non profit status

Some churches in my area help. Also we have something called
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Churches? No. Pastors and anyone receiving monies
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I am not Catholic and maybe this is how it is in all Catholic churches, but I have to ask!

My daughter is engaged to a very nice young man who is Catholic or should I say his family is Catholic and he refuses to break ranks. He has insisted they get married in his grandmother's (and his) church. Okay, fine. I'm fine with that. My daughter is fine with that. She started taking the conversion classes, but really isn't that interested in converting. She was making the gesture for her fiance. Fiance' says she doesn't have to convert and that she doesn't have to convert in order for them to be married in the church.

After they had been engaged for four months (they dated for a year before they got engaged), they called the priest at the grandmother's church to meet with him about setting a date and getting married. First meeting, they drive into the city to meet the priest at the time he told them and the priest never shows up! He later apologizes, but never offers an explanation for standing them up. The second time they set up a meeting, the priest shows up. He proceeds to tell them that before he can "allow" them to be married, he must first talk to family and friends to be sure they are not living together and also he has to give serious thought because my daughter is not Catholic and he has worries that the children they will not be raised in the church. He then proceeds to tell my daughter that she needs to wear a skirt or dress the next time she meets with him (she had on dress slacks and a blouse)! He also wants to look at the wedding dress and the bride's maid dresses to be sure they are appropriate and that women should not show bare shoulders in the church, which basically means we have to have little covers/jackets made for each bride's made and now for the bride.

So my daughter tells me all of this and I'm irritated. I decide that if this priest calls me, I'm going to give him what for. In my mind, this is all a bit ridiculous. Even if my daughter and fiance are living together (which they are) they are trying to rectify that by getting married. My daughter begs me not to be rude and yet asks me to lie to the priest about them living together. My daughter tells me that my son-in-law to be was raised to believe it is a sin to get married outside the Catholic church. I wasn't aware that the Catholics still believed this. But my daughter is adamant that she wants to do this one thing for her groom because the rest of the wedding is about her. So okay, I stifle it. I used to be young and in love and ready to do anything for my betrothed.

Next meeting with the priest, the priest is satisfied that they do not live together. Thank goodness he never called me, so I was not forced to lie or be polite. At the next meeting, however, he decides he's not going to give them an answer on whether or not they can be married unless my daughter memorizes the 10 commandments in order and also some sort of freaking prayer. So my daughter calls me, clearly upset, but willing to do this one last thing. I am outside my mind with outrage! Still, it's my daughter's decision to participate in this dog and pony show.

Tonight, my daughter has a meeting with the priest, performs her little assignment, and presents her wedding dress for inspection. The priest then says he's not going to marry them and wants them to wait a year, wants my daughter to officially convert, and then meet with him for pre-marriage counseling and start the whole show over again.

Now I'm furious and I am about ready to call this priest up and tell him what I think of him, his church, and all this crap he is espousing. Who does he think he is?!?!?!?! I am a Christian. I attend an Assembly of God church and I do not believe for one minute that someone should perform tricks and jump through hoops just to get freaking married. Yes, pre-marital counseling is probably a good thing, but other than that.

In my opinion, this priest is on some sort of power trip and is extremely self-righteous and pompous! I also did my own investigating on this guy and found out that this same priest was asked to come to the hospital to give last rites to a dying Catholic woman whose own priest was out of town. This priest said he would only come and administer the last rites if the daughter making the request would make a substantial donation to his parrish! What kind of crap is that!!!?!?!!?

What kind of man is the priest? Is this indicative of the entire religion of catholicism? I hate to be rude, but they have priests molesting children and dabbling in homosexuality and yet this pompous ass of a priest treats my daughter as if she is not good enough to get married in his church!

Sorry this is so long, but I am just so mad!