Where there is smoke, there is fire...
Posted By: SM on 2008-02-06
In Reply to: What is your theory on - rumors (sm)
Someone said consider the source. So let's consider the source...
You don't know her and she doesn't know you. Why would she seek you out to lie to you?
Apparently your husband does know her and was going to warn you beforehand that she might try to stir up trouble. Why would she pick your marriage to stir up trouble in? What bone of contention does she have with your husband? What is his relationship with her?
And if there is nothing to what she says as your husband suggests and that she is just trying to "stir up trouble" then why did he feel he needed to warn you?
Sounds to me like he's covering his bases. Personally, I think you husband has a lot of explaining to do and this advice of "keep quiet and take notes" is bunk. Don't be the victim. Listen to what your gut is telling you. Something smells in your situation and I bet it's coming from hubbie.
Trust me when I say, men can look their wives in the eye and lie without batting an eye and when caught in a lie, they will practically hurt themselves trying to rationalize and justify. Whatever is going on with your husband, you cannot deny that there are rumors out there that your husband feels he needs to squelch. That's troublesome by itself. Why would someone make up rumors about him?
Don't excuse him, don't treat him with kid gloves. Confront him and find the truth. You'll know it when you hear it.
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Darlin', I saw fight fire with fire. Oh, I know, it's not being the "bigger person" BU
it's better than keeping it all inside and letting it fester. Your MIL sounds like mine and your DH sounds like mine as well. My husband doesn't want to deal with his mother, so he pretends he doesn't notice anything she says or does and the same goes for my FIL. He knows how is wife is, but he just ignores it. My husband will tell me privately "oh, you know how my mom is." For about the first year of marriage, I bit my tongue with his mother. But when I saw that my DH was never going to stand up for me, I decided to start biting back. She would say stuff like "You like you've put on a little weight, sweetie." and I'd say "you look like you've put on a few years."
My MIL and I have full on yell fests sometimes. We don't speak to each other for weeks or months because we're mad, but we always make up. Also, my DH has come around too. He has gotten to where instead of ignoring comments that his mother makes, before I can come back at her, he'll jump in and let her know that what she said was not acceptable. So now there are less fights because mommy doesn't like to be called out by her baby boy.
I think for a long time my MIl was just jealous of me because she was the main woman in her son's life for years and that changed when I came into the picture. So she turned every family gathering into a competition for her son's attention. I hated the first years, but now being married 16 years, I really don't care if she gets all his attention when we get together. Let her fix his food and tell him how great he is. Gives me the day off.
I don't smoke and so I don't need it, but
I work for a doc that often prescribes it and it seems to work for everyone that has tried it. Some seem to stop taking it too soon and go back to smoking, but he has had at least a 90% success rate with his patients. Good Luck!
If it were me, and I am exactly like you are regarding smoke -
I would show up when I believe the cake and singing might be happening with a big smile on my face and well wishes. Stay for a short time, as long as you can stand it. I do not think you should miss her special day. I feel for you with being exposed to smoke and can feel my eyes burning and hair stinking just thinking of it. However, your friend would want you there, at least for a short time. Good luck! :-)
second-hand smoke
With any luck the weather will be good and the party will be held outdoors....If not, take her out to lunch or make a special lunch/dinner at your house just for the 2 of you....perhaps get your hair and nails done together or just piddle around in the consignment shops...do something that the 2 of you enjoy. If you've known her since Jr. High or thereabouts, she knows how you feel about smoking and I don't think she would be offended. The 1-on-1 time together would proabably the best present she gets....and you get to catch up everything without interruption.
I know, I did it yesterday...Made chicken and dumplings from scratch and sauteed squash and a light fruit salad, watched a video slide show that my friend made on a Mac laptop of renovation of the log cabin that her mother was born in (narration, music and all).....Her daugter's wedding is coming up in 3 weeks and the young lady wants it to be at the cabin. Then we tried on mother-of-the-bride outfits she'd brought over, we critiqued, exchanged jewelry that would match. We talked for about 3 hours non-stop and coulda gone on for another coupla days just reminiscing and trying to work out the kinks of the wedding and chowin' down on comfort food.
Just an idea....Hope this helps.
You have no idea how everyone around you who does not smoke SM
will appreciate what you are doing. Pretty soon you will be intolerant of it, too. You rock! You can do this. It is the best decision you will make for your health and others!!!! (CLAPPPING FOR YOU)
In all fairness now - do ya smoke?
I can't figure out why you posted that you are thin and have always been thin. How is that supportive a person who would like to lose weight? I'm guess I am missing something.
My husband and I both smoke!
This January we have decided will be it. It is no longer socially acceptable. My excuse has always been that I am afraid to gain a lot of weight.
My brother quit after 15 years (early 30s) and he used Chantix. He was a 3-pack a day smoker. Let me tell you, he is so much better. No coughing. After 6 years of trying to have a baby and failing in vitro; they have just had a baby this November. They both smoked/him worse. They are now both nonsmokers for over a year, have gained weight, but have such a blessing. He swears it was the smoking that caused the infertility. This pregnancy was the natural way and she's beautiful/such a blessing for them. We are all elated.
I am especially proud of him and feel like such a wimp to continue to smoke knowing it is killing me. It makes me feel inferior to others. Thank God my brother is an encouraging soul and not one of those horrible ex-smokers who just won't let up or are worse than just plain nonsmokers.
To the OP: These poster above is absolutely correct. My brother will vouge that everything in life is better now that he is a nonsmoker (i'm assuming including the sex since they now have the baby). He says the Chantix worked and he is by no means a pill-taker at all.
To the OP again: If you'd like to quit when I do in January, e-mail me, and we can support one another. You are worth it! You can still smoke the first week on Chantix, but then the cravings will disappear. Believe me, I also enjoy the cigarette especially after eating but smoke a lot more when I'm stressed to the point that I wheeze. I'm only 38 and have 2 kids. I hate the habit, but I love the cigarettes. See what I mean? It's a hard habit to break, but I think together we can do it! Whaddya say? E-mail me!
To the Poster Above: Thank you for your kind comments as you've also just made me decide that quitting is the best and only option at this point.
I had an aunt that died of ovarian cancer and never smoked or drank a day in her life. She was thin, always health conscious. Not all cancers including lung come from smoking. Keep that in mind as you strive to quit.
Your choice is to walk through the smoke.
People are made to smoke outside the store, can't smoke inside. Smoking is not against the law. I think people with body odor/bad breath smell way worse than people smoking.
don't have a *choice* to walk through smoke--sm
if you want to get out of or into the store. If someone HAS to smoke...go to your own car where it does not infringe upon someone else's right to not have to breathe it in and contract lung cancer. Body odor and bad breath do not inflict death and are easily taken care of with personal hygiene. Second hand smoke is just plain inconsiderate of others' health, but then why would you care about that. right?
Juliet said that she knew about the smoke
monster after the fact and said that she didn't know what it was but that they were aware of it and that it didn't like the fence. I really have to stay glued to the show or I miss little things - and apparently I still miss a lot.
all LV hotels that have casino have the smoke
even in Florida - the casinos you can smoke at - at least in certain areas like the bingo.........not the dealer tables at the Seminoles but at every other casino locally in S. Florida, there is smoking allowed.....Hard Rock Resort and Casino - smoking allowed.
In Las Vegas, if there are casinos in the hotel - you will be dealing with smoke.
However, there are plenty of smokeless, casino-less places......enjoy!
Is there a way to remove cigarette smoke - sm
from something without washing it? I have a baby blanket my mom crocheted that is for a friend of mine who's expecting. Like everything in my mom's house, it has a bit of a cigarette smell, and I don't think a new mother would want to use a blanket that smells of cigarettes for a new baby! So far I've just hung it up on a hanger in the hallway at my place. (I don't smoke.) Any ideas? I thought about something like "Febreze", but that might not be good for a new baby to breathe, either.........
My mom used to smoke the "roll your owns"
If you buy your tobacco product in a can or bag you can put it in the freezer for a time and it will still be good - if you haven't opened it yet.
My DH puts his carton in the door of the freezer by the way because of the same reason.
I heard about the prices going up, but nothing has really been said about it here where I am. There are many smokers here in my part of the country. In fact, they only just passed the ban on not smoking in restaurants about a year ago here in town and are just now considering it for state wide.
machine to remove cigarette smoke?
my husband's smoking is almost intolerable to me anymore. He won't smoke outside for me. Does anyone know first-hand of a machine that effectively gets all or most of the smoke/smell out of the room being smoked in? thanks.
followup on machine to remove cig smoke
First, thanks again to those who tried to be helpful/supportive. Secondly, i may (!)have made a breakthrough this morning, Praise God!! Sparing the details, after another fit of mine over trying to eat in a 'cloud', i put it to him this way: Saying, "i've been looking into air cleaners to remove the smoke smell from the house, and they will cost from $700 to $1000. So which is it going to be -- will you quit smoking, smoke outside the house or do we invest in these expensive air cleaners? I just can't tolerate it like i used to."
I let him ponder awhile and asked again for the answer. I about fell off my feet when he said he'd try harder to quit smoking and that he might start smoking outside the house, and might even consider a prescription to help...Good Golly Miss Molly!!
Wonders truly never cease!!
I used to smoke and NEVER smoked inside the house. nm
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Smoke 'sickers' through the AC, the cracks, up the pipes...
she can smell it in her apartment! It affects her also, second-hand smoke and it 'stinks!'
But:
This LL does not have a no-smoking policy.
Did you move in knowing this?
Then you cannot do anything.
You accepted the apartment 'as is.'
You can only hope that the smoking lady moves out or you move out.
Learned to smoke, drink, cut classes
Graduated in the 70s. Took dancing lessons and big big big into disco. Almost entered in the show Disco Fever. I was a little overweight, certainly not popular in the "cliques". Had friends from grammar school, scouts & 4H I hung around with (those are still my friends today). I was shy and stuttered when having to speak in front of groups (still do). I wasn't a "studier" - received mostly Cs (failed science, gym & history - or barely passed). No boyfriends. Pretty boring overall, but I'd trade everything in now and do it all again.
Anyone know how to get cigarette smoke smell out of books? I bought several
reference books and they just stink. Any ideas?
Time. That's all it takes. I took in a recliner full of smoke and a few years later sm
looks brand new and smells like my own home now. It was really bad with smoke. Same with books. It just takes time. It will eventually go away. Unfortunately, nothing I know works for that without ruining the books.
Someone should set THEM on fire -sm
That is totally infuriating. Too bad the 3 months *confinement* doesn't include being confined to a burn ward with 3rd-degree-burns over 75% of THEIR bodies. At the very le3ast, they should be made to sit through watching someone in the tubs at a burn ward getting their skin pulled off piece by piece. Might be a real eye-opener. Also, I think their parents should be liable for the kitten's vet bills.
A few months ago there was a horrible video on YouTube where some jerk in the Philippines (who must've been missing more than a few chromosomes, just like those girls!)lit a caged rat on fire in the same manner. Then, as if that weren't bad enough, he took another caged rat and poured boiling water on it. When that didn't quite kill it, he set it on fire. I went after that guy with a vengeance... got his video pulled from YouTube, (and hopefully him banned from it permanently). Also got on some of the internet forums in the Philippines and tried to track him down so that cruelty charges could be filed against him, pointing out that people who torture & kill animals often go on to start doing it to humans...
Cotati isn't far from where I live, and there is also a man in that area that *adopts* kittens from the free ads and on Craigslist, and tortures & kills them. People have been trying to get that guy put away, but it's been an uphill battle.
But to fire someone for
wishing someone Merry Christmas? That's what I'm talking about. God forbid anyone says the word, "Christ." I wonder how long it will take before "In God We Trust" is removed from our money.
Maybe if you start a fire in your
fireplace, your swamp cooler will be more effective!
Either that or get a dehumidifier.
I hate humidity also, and here I am in NC. Would you believe that when people are sick they sometimes run HUMIDIFIERS HERE?? Makes no sense to me when they could just step outside most of the time, and we have enough fungus amongus, LOL.
Big fire pit with table
and snowshoes.
He can light my fire! ;)
The Australian guy that sang the Doors song 'Light My Fire' is GOOD-LOOKING. Doesn't hurt that he sounds good also ;)
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I don’t fire off the questions because
most physicians now just try to race through because having to make that quota. But back to him asking you to have a sleep study, first of all you can refuse to have any test done you don’t want to have done. I refuse to weigh in my doctor's office. That is not really information basically needed (unless having anesthesia or dye injected for MRI say). Has any family member stated to you about excessive snoring, that being a reason you would need to have the study done. I did have a young niece to die from sleep apnea so in that case with loud, excessive snoring that you have heard about, then I would ask for it myself. I just turned down a nerve conduction study the other day. The neurologist said he oculd not treat; therefore why have it just then.
I'd fire that doctor in a nannosecond...sm
there's no reason at all for a doctor to act like that, much less your husband!
Most of us survived chicken pox just fine as kids. Having the vaccine doesn't guarantee you won't get it - it just reduces the chance of getting it (i.e. some people who get the flu shot get the flu anyway).
Keep the lotions and potions on your child and you'll get through this.
You are playing with fire and someone is going to get burned. sm
Infedility by any means is not moral and it is not right. Your husband has every right to be upset, as would I if my husband were doing the same. I'm not condemning you, I'm saying what I would tell anyone. In fact, my best friend brought a guy to the movies with us the other night and she is MARRIED. Needless to say, I was very upset and called her after the movie and told her I didn't think that was very cool.
I bet you 99% of the responders to this post will agree that what you are doing is not right.
It's just exciting and fun right now and not at all worth it in the end. If your husband finds out he may never respect or trust you ever again.
Also, what helps me if I ever, ever get an inkling to stray (which has happened once in our 10-year marriage), is to think about ALL my husband has been through with me and put up and has done for me (which is A LOT), and eventually the "other guy" just doesn't seem that appealing anymore. It actually made me cry when I began thinking of all my husband has done for me and my child (I was married once before we met).
Anyways, you have to stop it. Leading a double life weighs very heavy on your conscience. It's no fun. Not good for your health.
Oh, one more thing! Why is he single, if he is? He's probably a jerk. He ditched you once, right? If he's willing to hang on to you even though he knows you are married? He's not worth it, girl.
I grew up with fire ants and believe me sm
You KNOW when you've been bitten. They aren't called fire ants for nothing. We do think it might be insect(s) from the tree we bought (see post "something occurred to us").
Wow, sounds like you want to jump right into the fire.
I wouldn't do it. Way too expensive. Y'all are probably young. I would sleep on it for several, several nights.
Wow! You're sure a ball of fire! nm
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Sounds like the MIL is the one fueling the fire!!
I have the world's greatest MIL! I could marry 50 more men and not have a MIL like her!! She is my BFF! She thinks and acts as if I'm her own daugher (she only had 2 sons). But I will tell you this, more than likely the MIL is the source of the problem and stabbing you in the back worse than you think. Sounds like she may be where all the animosity is coming from. Sorry to say, but she probably thinks you aren't "good enough" for her son. (you know how Mama's boys are) I would definately DEMAND that my hubbie take up for me or I would send him home packing to his Mama!
birthday/fire hall
What fire department in the US allows smoking indoors? I really don't need to know. I'm sorry you had to endure that. Cat
Hi Cat! I was told it was at a fire hall, but actually was SM
more like a legion, etc. Hope you know what I mean. . much smaller than the fire hall which was down the street. I got lost three times, was not familiar with the town, even though it is not far from where I live, etc. Wow. . what a day. Thanks for caring. It is now 12:50 a.m. and my eyes are actually still burning!!
fire at school, i was not contacted
Here's what happened: I dropped my third-grader off at 8:20 this morning. A group of us moms who drop off their kids meet at a little coffee shop just down the street. I leave the coffee shop at 9:30 a.m., return home, check my voice mail (none), and then leave to run an errand (taking my elderly neighbor to the garage to pick up her repaired car). It's now just after 10 a.m. On the car radio, (from an out-of-town radio station, not local) I hear that my child's school has been evacuated due to a fire and school has been dismissed.
I immediately pull the car to the side of the road and call one of the mom's I had just had coffee with, asking her if she had been called by the school. She had not. So, I turn the car around and start racing back to school. My brother then calls me (his daughter is in the same grade, same school, as my boy), stating that he has picked up our children and is taking them to grandma's house. He said he had only heard it from his girlfriend who heard it on the radio and called him.
Last year, we had to fill out this form stating who was okay to pick up our kids from school in case of emergency. My brother was on that list from last year, but this year we were not supplied with one of those forms to fill out. What if things had changed? What I had decided he was no longer to be on that list?
Anyhow, I get home, check my voice mail again, still none. On the noon news, the story is there, stating the children have been evacuated and bussed home. How many kids got sent to a home with parents away at work? How many kids waited to get picked up by non-contacted parents? Isn't there supposed to be an emergency system which can contact 900 parents in a timely fashion? I am really miffed. Everything is alright, but this was a fiasco.
In case of a fire and no keys
I would go through the window but not in a situation like this, different case altogether.
You're not alone. According to the fire marshal,
our house fire was my fault. I left a burner on and went out the door. I was in such a hurry (as usual) to pick up my kids that I didn't turn it off the whole way. The house went up in flames and everything with it. The first thing the kids said when we moved in our new house was, "Mom, I don't think you should operate the stove." Thanks, guys. Like I don't feel guilty enough. But I'm learning to laugh at myself again. Can't keep beating myself up over it. Everyone was safe and that's the most important thing.
Such as how much nuclear fire-power you have....
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Great balls of fire! sm
That $540 could pay a month's rent for some families. Or feed a third-world family of five for a year!
Sheesh! Michelle may be a shoe addict, to which I can relate, but she's gonna get flamed for this one.....
Oh, great balls of fire! sm
When I was 25 years or so younger and still fairly pretty, I ran into a situation like that, only the man was divorced. He even showed me his divorce decree. However, he failed to mention his live-in girlfriend. When I found that out in a very short time, I excised him from my life like a space-occupying lesion. But for crying out loud, that sux! In a way, it almost seems worse than being disloyal to one's legal wife. E-ew!
A house on the next block is on fire. Winds are
about 20 mph and I lost track of the number of firetrucks have responded. Just last night our community had a benefit concert for another family that lost their house to fire just before Thanksgiving. Hopefully everyone is safe and the fire doesn't spread.
Don't do myself, but look at Fire Mountain Gems on line &
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Mine slept through fire alarm
My 16-year-old daughter sleeps like the dead. A couple of years ago the fire alarm went off in the middle of the night and it was absolutely blaring in her room, and she SLEPT THROUGH IT! Needless to say, an alarm doesn't work. I not only wake her up, I physically pick her up out of bed and stand her on her feet. I honestly don't know what she will do when she goes off to college. No problems with my 18-year-old. By the way, I don't do very many other things for them - they are self-sufficient. But this is a practical matter.
Isn't it illegal to fire someone for observing their own religion? nm
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There was fire at Turkey Point. Grid went down sm
in Miami, so that began domino effect with other grids getting overloaded and then shutting down.
tub bath outside in sun or cozy in front of fire
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cozy/fire....Thanksgiving or Christmas?
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Fire pit, dogs, smores and fireworks here. Have Barbie
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Monte Carlo Casino in Vegas on fire see it on
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bread with spagetti sauce and cheese, over the fire
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