What's the penalty for testing positive?
Posted By: sm on 2009-03-26
In Reply to: Is this fair or right? - sm..
How long before they can straighten up and test negative? Does this mean for the rest of their lives, they will never receive any welfare benefits becase they smoked a joint?
Would I the taxpayer have to pay for the drug testing that is performed this one time or multiple times? Would I have to pay more taxes when people are homeless? Would we need more homeless shelters? What would this cost the taxpayers in the long haul? Is every applicant tested? Where is this information for the results of the drug testing stored, in a police database? What type of rehab if the test is positive would be offered, if any? Would the person serve time for being under the influence? Would this cause me to have to serve jury duty more often? Would they also be screened for alcohol? What type of future ramifications are in order if and when they do get a job? Would the prospective employer be notified that welfare was not granted due to drug use/intoxication?
Not an easy task is it?
Complete Discussion Below:  marks the location of current message within thread
The messages you are viewing
are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select
the boards given in left menu
Other related messages found in our database
RE: Has anyone every had positive prenatal testing for Down and then found out everything was fine?
\
PA death penalty
We actually do have the death penalty in PA...it is just not used that often. 
A sincere ? on the death penalty
Would you watch someone being executed by lethal injection? What if he murdered your brother? Your child? or anyone else close to you?
I know there is no right or wrong answer to this. I will have to make this decision myself and it's been in my head lately. I may not know my decision until the day of.
Death Penalty Vs. Life in Jail
What do you think is worse?
I would think being locked in a jail cell for life, with the key thrown away is MUCH worse, than ending their life.
Can you imagine sitting in a cold jail cell, no windows, no tv, no books, no paper and pen, just a room, w/ a toilet, a cot, and bare minimum food to keep you alive.
I think that is worse.
Too many of these stories becoming familiar, in addition to inforcing the death penalty....sm
I have to ask myself why so much of society these days is behaving in this way, uncontrollable, ugly rage...is it the decay of family units, absentee fathers, is it the abundance of drugs, violence in media....I am old enough to remember a time when these atrocities seemed to be the RARE horror stories, why the abundance now? No God in their worlds?????
testing
seeing if this works!
testing too. . .
Hope it worked
testing
Atavar-challenged
testing
Just checking to see why my avator didn't show up . . ..
testing..
d
Testing
Was testing to see if I could post. Tried to reply to another poster. Must have not did it correctly. Anyway, I am starving, on liquid only, getting ready to endocscopy tomorrow at 12:30, that's a long time. I just had a can of chicken broth and some White grape juice. Any ideas?
just testing
x
Just testing - sm
I don't see anything since 2/28 on the Gab Board. Is anybody getting this?
Testing my New Profile...
Testing 1-2-3, Testing 1-2-3, Testing, Testing......
still testing Avatar
hope this works
Has anyone ever had allergy testing before? sm
I have had allergies for years now, but they seem to just get worse every year. I only have trouble from spring to fall. Okay all winter. I have tried every allergy med on the market with no relief. I have used over the counter stuff, Claritin, Clarinex, Allegra, nasal sprays and am now on Zyrtec D b.i.d. I had a Kenalog injection about a month ago, which usually helps me get throught the summer. I usually get the Kenalog and take my allergy pill and for the most part can get by with minimal symptoms. This year it is like I am on nothing!! I have never had allergy testing before. I would appreciate any input on what has worked for you..or if you have had the testing done. Thanks! 
allergy testing-----sm
I just had allergy testing done in March of this year. I had also had it done years ago and was expecting the 100+ sticks on the back. But, I was pleasantly surprised. They had this contraption that had 10 prongs on it and each prong stuck down into the allergen bottle. They then pulled out this contraption and mashed in on my arm and that did 20 "sticks" at one time. They did 3 sets of those and it really was not bad at all. I am now on my 3rd vial of buildup and will be able to give myself my shots after that. I developed sinus polyps during my last pregnancy and had to have sinus surgery last year. The doctors told me that if I didn't get my allergies under control, that the polyps would most likely come back. The shots have helped me a great deal and I can tell a BIG difference.
Just me, but, I wouldn't wait.
Take care!!
has he ever had allergy testing?
my son takes allergy shots and it seems to help him. he doesn't have to take his Zyrtec as often. We also have plastic covers on the mattresses. I don't think the air purifier really helps him a whole lot b/c he is allergic to every allergen they tested him for.
I don't have a DNA lab or the money to pay for DNA testing.
How about a lie detector test for mom and dad instead?
This drug testing is going too far - sm
I don't do drugs and I do know that there is a huge drug problem in America but turning around and testing for drugs for every single thing is going a bit far. Not everyone who is unemployed does drugs. In fact I can bet the people who are unemployed are probably using the money for basic necessities of daily living (food, shelter, electricity).
My dad (72 years old) is collecting unemployment and if he had to take a drug test to get his check that would be horrible. He's the most honest decent human being I know of.
A lot of people who collect unemployment don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. A lot of them are going through depression and then to turn around and have to take a drug test like they are criminals?...well why not treat them like crap more and add to the depression they are already going through.
Think this is just another way for government to take control and it is not a good idea. Usually the people who are for others being tested are church goers who think they are "holier than thou".
Bad idea.
This drug testing is going too far - sm
Why in the world would you think this is a good idea? I don't do drugs and I do know that there is a huge drug problem in America but turning around and testing for drugs for every single thing is going a bit far. Not everyone who is unemployed does drugs. In fact I can bet the people who are unemployed are probably using the money for basic necessities of daily living (food, shelter, electricity).
My dad (72 years old) is collecting unemployment and if he had to take a drug test to get his check that would be horrible. He's the most honest decent human being I know of.
A lot of people who collect unemployment don't do it because they want to, they do it because they have to. A lot of them are going through depression and then to turn around and have to take a drug test like they are criminals?...well why not treat them like crap more and add to the depression they are already going through.
Think this is just another way for government to take control and it is not a good idea. Usually the people who are for others being tested are church goers who think they are "holier than thou".
Bad idea.
Testing is simple
Very complicated subject, but if you are working midnights, sleeping days, or even evenings, you probably are not getting enough sun. The only real way to know is to undergo a 25-hydroxy vitamin D test. If you have insurance and your doctor will order the test, then it probably won't cost anything. If you want to know, have no insurance, and can use a lancet to poke your finger you can get an at-home test from the Vitamin D Council or GrassRoots Health and pay about $30 for the test. The provide the test, two lancets, postage and the test is very accurate. The first time I tested I ordered through my doctor's office and because I had no insurance it cost me $300 but I was severely deficient, a 7 on a range of normal from 32 to 100. Now after supplementation, I am 98. Start reading about deficiencies with the Vitamin D Council and go from there.
Genetic testing...sm
Hey girls!
I just had my annual exam and I was talking with the doctor about my family history of breast/cervical cancer. She mentioned genetic testing and that if I had the gene mutation, then I could have an elective bilateral mastectomy and reconstructive surgery. Just wondering if any of you have any experience with this or what your thoughts or opinions are on this subject.
Thanks!
Are you positive...
you don't have deer?? I have to keep a cage around my roses because the deer think the buds are a delicacy. I just had all of mine lopped off last night by a hungry deer. What makes me the maddest is that they sometimes leave a mess and don't even eat them all, just cut them off. We bought this stuff at Home Depot called Liquid fence. It smells terrible, but the animals won't eat what is sprayed. Your roses won't stink though if you like to cut them for the house.
Try to be more positive sm
I am trying very hard to see my cup as half full, not half empty. I hope I can carry this throughout the year. In the meantime, I have only a few days left to "work on it" so I shall start practicing. Hope I can keep it up. My husband says I could be president of Worriers Anonymous! I think I can, I think I can - I shall! Happy New Year! Good subject.
We have to think positive.
and hope that it dissipates. Big hope, I know. I don't want to go through that again, either, only this time I will stay and hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.
Whoever did her psych testing at NASA
is going to have some explaining to do. Love has nothing to do with this. She is having delusions, probably hearing voices, the whole bit. I wonder if there is a family history of psychiatric illness. Because it's either that or she started taking amphetamines or had some weird medication reaction. I'll bet the male astronaut is dying of embarrassment.
Anyone have genetics testing after a miscarriage? sm
If so, did the testing reveal any possible reasons for the miscarriage and prevention methods for future pregnancies? Did you get pregnant after that and did you successfully carry the pregnancy?
It's a legitimate question. He was testing the man's
The man said everything in your life you wished for, be it negative or positive.
So, Larry King put him to the test.
If you agree with the general, you have to agree with the specifics.
He said that little girl brought that upon herself with negative thinking.
sounds like he was testing the waters.
x
Testing to see if this shows. Wonder why no posts on
s
No, we are absolutely positive about where and when -sm
it was left, I will be checking the schools L&F though just in case the guilty party returns it to there to escape detection.
Thanks for the positive feedback
I was just sharing a story.
Thanks you all for the positive posts.
I didn't think anyone would tell me not to let him go and that is exactly what I needed. I guess all along I knew I would not be able to keep him here, my heart would hurt too much to see his heart hurt if I did say no. I know I am supposed to just turn it all over to the Lord, but sometimes that is really hard to do. I will continue praying about it and I know that will help give me some peace. Thanks again to all.
I am 50! You are younger than me. How is that for positive??? nm
.
Well...have taken 3 different self-assessments & all 3 are positive! (sm)
score is about 7 out of 10 on all of them. I don't know whether to be upset or happy. I guess I should be happy because maybe I can get some help with it.
thanks for all of the positive responses!
I did not think i was being negative at all, but here are two responses I got:
So you say the "only" things they do is fight for our country and rights and help out in times of need. What do you think that consists of? How many lives have been given since 1776 to secure and protect those rights? Have you ever looked at the freedoms we have and the wealth we enjoy? What more do you expect the military to do? Wash your clothes. We are the only truly free nation in the world and it is because men and women have chosen to join our military and fight to give you those freedoms that you don't seem to understand.
and
Ma'am, thanks for giving me a subject for my Memorial Day speech in our community. The subject will be:
Americans who have no idea what military heroes have done and are doing for us, thereby humiliating our sacrifices.
anything positive come out of this letter?
x
Gee thanks for the positive feedback
I beg your pardon but I am certainly NOT spoiled. I have been in a marriage with someone who likes to point out all my flaws and correct me constantly, someone who told me I am just average looking and someone who has not touched me in over a year. I am staying for my children and have been staying for the last 6 years I've been miserable. Don't you dare judge me. Have you ever had your self-esteem taken away, your self-worth. A husband should tell his wife and think that she is beautiful, not average my dear.....I feel worthless and hopeless and ugly and hurt so please refrain from calling me selfish and putting me down - have enough of that already. Words of encouragement are needed.
Your Positive Event of the Day
Your Positive Event Of The Day
What is something good that has happened to you today?
Even something as small as having a candy bar you enjoyed.
positive things
1. The sun is shining (even though it's 0 degrees out).
2. I am warm and able to work in the comfort of my home.
3. I have work! Yeah!
If you consider SIX MONTHS "extensive testing time"
That's how long the FDA evaluated this vaccine to approve it!!
This is from a great FDA article that gives a lot more information. I'll include the link below.
"The manufacturer has agreed to conduct several studies following licensure, including additional studies to further evaluate general safety and long-term effectiveness."
I can't believe that some of you people would be okay giving this to your daughters when there is NO evidence or studies on long-term effects of this vaccine!!
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2006/NEW01385.html
Had allergy testing and then shots for years -
I am highly allergic to dust mites (off the scale!) and had allergy shots for 4 years. As far as I can tell, it really did no good. I have had no carpet in the house we built for 7 years now, everything in the bedroom encased, run 2 HEPA filters in the bedroom and 1 in my office 24/7, and I still suffer quite a bit. I was retested not too long ago. My test still shows very high sensitivity to dust mites and not really much reaction to anything else (just like before the shots). I know people who have had great success with allergy shots. Unfortunately, I am not one of them. It is worth a try!
Hypothyroidism can cause constipation -- has she had recent lab testing? (n/m)
x
I turned 40 today! Please tell me something positive about it!
x
positive thoughts for a friend
Let me start by saying I can't believe how low some people will stoop. Just when I think I have heard just about everything, something else comes up.
My neighbor is the sweetest lady you could ever meet. The whole family is very nice and very giving. I have known them since I was very little and she used to babysit me and my sibs.
Three years ago, her daughter was a junior in high school and ended up pregnant by one of the "jocks." They dated for over a year but as soon as she ended up pregnant, he would have nothing to do with her (typical huh?.) I might also add that while his family is fairly well off, her family is not as fortunate but they are comfortable. The daughter decided to keep the baby and raise him with the help of her family since she was not getting help from the father of her little boy. I have kept him on occasion too and I just love this little guy.
Stacy finished high school and struggled to get her nursing degree, making a nice living for herself and Michael.
Last April, Stacy's dad passed away suddenly and now that everything is settled, she and her mother have come into some insurance money. Not a gigantic sum of money but nothing to sneeze at. Let's say its a couple hundred thousand.
After almost 4 years of nothing from Michael's father or his family, he's come back around again. Of course, he has heard there is some money now! Apparently daddy has cut him off for some recent bad behavior and I won't say what that was. Not only that, his mommy now calls Stacy all the time wanting to see her "grand baby." Oh BARF! Give me a break! Michael will be FOUR very very soon and NOW they want to see him?
Something really stinks.
Please send Stacy positive thoughts. I don't think she will give him (dad) the time of day, nor grandma either since she encouraged him leaving her behind but, you never know.
He really broke her heart when he just started pretending he never even knew her. He doesn't deserve her or Michael.
Thanks for all your positive help, case closed sm
I am going to close this query now. I have had many wonderful e-mails and help on the board which I can print (well, most) and make a little portfolio for him to get some ideas. His wife has been working double shifts nursing to make ends meet and he has been caring for the kids and doing all to make the holiday reasonably good for them. He's been doing all nighters on researching and the company is very impressed with all the research he's done on his new job and product and are going to travel here to meet him and work with him to get him started, Everyone is positive and anxious to make this new innovative product introduction a success. There are no coincidences and paying it forward has been our family's way of life and we are grateful to all who e-mailed and posted positive little hints to ease the transition, we are from a small rural area and am not familiar with that area. Thank God for good people in the Christmas Spirit. I've helped many on the boards throughout the years under another name and feel fully rewarded. I will continue to pay it forward myself and God bless you great people. We had a death in his wife's family over the holidays which we were unprepared for and travel arrangements, funeral plans, babysitting, eulogy, etc.had to be prepared, and you made our life so much easier and renewed our faith. I will close the subject now, it has been a lesson in life, that's for sure.! The end - Merry Christmas to those who passed on their holiday helping spirit. You helped us through a difficult time. Thanks so much to the helpers (and I made some new wonderful friends.). God Bless!
Great and positive post. - nm
xx
sending positive thoughts
Hope everything works out for you. . My brother and his daughter have barely spoken to each other for over 12 years. . He now has 2 grandchildren. . I hope he will make that same first step you are making to mend fences. . Life is short - it's time for you to enjoy your grandchildren!
Positive sayings from your childhood
What sayings do you remember your parents telling you?
Do unto others as you would have them do onto you.
that doesn't sound very positive!!
x
|
