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Well thanks for visiting the miserable people and giving us your 2 cents nm

Posted By: Oh Wise One on 2008-09-24
In Reply to: Not part of your world and never will be - yankee

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    Like Oprah giving poor people new cars

    It never occurred to her that they couldn't afford to pay the income tax on them.


    Well, no wonder you are miserable

    if he is absent physically and emotionally.  He is supposed to be your companion. Ask him if he is having an affair.  Tell him you are unhappy because you are lonely.  Talk!


    actually I am not miserable, just sm
    uncomfortable. Today it hasn't been so bad because some of the constipation "left." I think that has a big bearing on all of this. Guess I need to keep up with that problems. Constipation also doesn't help my pancreas either. Its like everything gets pushedu p into the diaphragm! YUK!
    I'm only miserable as far as he is concerned....sm

    because he is drunk 99% of the time I get to see him. It's a Merry go round we can't seem to get off. Every day ends for me with a drunk SOB picking a fight and every morning starts for him with me being PO'd at him for whatever he did the night before. The rest of my life is actually great. I have great kids, a career I love, lots of family. There's potential for wonderful life for me and the kids if I could just remove the daily alcoholic part.


    Trust me, I've supported DH for 15 years. Took him to marriage counselors, begged, pleaded, tried to be understanding. This last year we risked our financial well-being to support his dream. His end of the deal was he'd have something to work for and wouldn't drink anymore. He's still drinking, and we're still waiting to see the outcome of his dream. Luckily, he and his partner just refinanced under the new corporation and we are able to pay back all the personal funds he borrowed. I've tried it all. Give him some time to go out with the guys, do activities he wants, take the vacations he wants. Doesn't matter how much I support him. DH is a taker, and he will continue to take until I literally have no more to give financially, emotionally, or physically.


    It's high time I lead by example and teach my pre-teen daughters that women deserve respect, honesty, common courtesy, and contributions from their partner that contribute to their well being and well being of their family. My biggest fear is my daughter's are just going to repeat the cycle because it is all they have ever known. I am totally at peace with the fact that I have done all I can to support my husband and help him overcome his addiction. Bottom line, can't help those that don't want to help themselves, and I will not sacrifice my children to keep trying.


    Where do you get unhappy or miserable out of that
    After a while, most of the physical attraction wears off. And usually unless it is a volatile type of relationship with a lot of bad fighting and make up sex i.e., so does the passion. Sad but true. You can love your husband very much but just not have the attraction or passion that was once there. It doesn't mean you are unhappy, just normal.
    you certainly have a miserable heart
    So, everyone else is supposed to give your candidate a break, but you feel free to come on here and bash a woman, Hillary, who chose to stay with her husband even after he told a great big lie. As far as the philandering, give me a break - if every woman left her husband for that, there might be 12 marriages left intact.

    I don't like Obama - he swaggers, he obviously thinks he is the Second Coming by his body language and his speech patterns. He has very little experience in anything of importance, whereas Hillary was doing voluteer work in grade school and never stopped. She worked without charge to help defend blacks unfairly charged with crimes when she was still in law school. She was with Marian Edelman (think that's the name) who started the Children's Defense Fund at the beginning, has never made money at that time and donated all her time, legal talent and paid her own airfares, hotels and meals to go to the D.C. for the board meetings when she was First Lady of Arkansas.

    Obama on the other hand has had his fair share of shady dealings with property in Chicago. I'm from Illinois and I can tell you that no one gets anywhere in Chicago politics without getting dirty. Obama voted present 114 times in the Illinois legislature - ridiculous. The man has no backbone and no conscience.

    You call Hillary power hungry - she has earned the right to be the presidential candidate. She didn't ask for it just because of her physical characteristics.

    If Obama is elected, it will be a very, very tragic day for this country.
    Wow, you're a really miserable person, aren't you?
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    OMG, we did that with our teen kids one year. Unavoidable. Miserable
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    My advice is that she will be fine with MIL visiting.....

    I am visiting the places you list
    My first trip to Wyoming, visiting the Rockies like I said, Jackson and the like. Landing in Salt Lake, Jackson, going down Snake River, Grand Tetons, Yellowstone, Sheridan, Keystone, Mount Rushmore and listen to this, Bear County USA!! What a grand trip. Your country must be beautiful. I just wish could make to Montana as I hear the scenery there also grand but so looking forward to my trip and thanks for the information! Cannot believe my family turns down all expense paid vacation! My trip starts July 25th.
    She knew she was visiting and would be leaving (sm)
    She just wanted to do a few things with her granddaughter before she left. If you had my in-laws you would understand invasive. You have to share your daughter. She is your child, but she is that woman's grandchild and she has rights too. She is sooo not asking too much. She sounds very humble and non-demanding. Try to be sweet to her. She won't live forever. Let her enjoy her granchild while she can.
    kids visiting grandparents over the
    you choose to not work nights so you could have time for you? LOL.... does anyone else see the craziness in this?
    Be careful while visiting Switzerland

    Swiss restaurant to serve meals cooked with human breast milk


    A Swiss gastronomist has stirred a controversy in the tranquil Alpine republic after announcing that he will serve meals cooked with human breast milk.


    Women will receive just over £3 (US$5.4) for 14 ounces of their milk Photo: GETTY The owner of the Storchen restaurant in the exclusive Winterthur resort will improve his menu with local specialities such as meat stew and various soups and sauces containing at least 75 per cent of mother's milk.


    "We have all been raised on it. Why should we not include it into our diet?" Hans Locher, who has become Switzerland most controversial restaurant owner, said.


    Mr Locher attracted the attention of the leading media of the German-speaking world this week after he posted ads looking for women donors, who will receive just over three pounds for 14 ounces of their milk.


    He said: "I first experimented with breast milk when my daughter was born.


    "One can cook really delicious things with it. However, it always needs to be mixed with a bit of whipped cream, in order to keep the consistency."


    The food control authority in Switzerland was initially confused by the apparent loophole in local legislation regulating the use of human milk and it was not clear whether Mr Locher could actually be banned from serving his specialities.


    "Humans as producers of milk are simply not envisaged in the legislation.


    "They are not on the list of approved species such as cows and sheep, but they are also not on the list of the banned species such as apes and primates," Rolf Etter of the Zurich food control laboratory said.


    Social Services Visiting

    The main thing I'd say is to remain calm and explain to the investigator like you did here.  Their job is to sort out the truth from the fiction.  I was investigated once because my MTSO made false accusations about me to the police. 


    I had to answer questions I didn't enjoy but when the interview was over the investigator was done she told me she believed me and I had nothing to worry about, but if the accuser made another call they'd file harassment charges against me. 


    The truth is the truth and they'll sort it out.  Patience will serve you well. 


    Need advice re: visiting disney world!!

    We are FINALLY going to break down and take the kids (ages 6, 9, and 12).  But I've heard so much conflicting info.  Stay in the resorts/stay in Kissimmee, go in Sept./go in Dec, Go to Disney/go to Universal - I'm soooo confused.  Yes, we will be on a budget, but I DO want to have a good experience as this may be the only time we can do this, at least while the kids are young enough to see it through a kid's eyes.  PLEASE, some of you who have been before - tell me where you stayed, which parks you went to, etc.  THANK YOU, thank you, thank you...Sherrie


    Is President Bush visiting our site?
    Sorry, just got me giggling.


    You're aunt is bully, plain and simple and I would just stop visiting.

    but I will tell you this, most mothers are going to voice their opinions to their kids about how they did things compared to out YOU do things.  I think it's in the mother by-laws somewhere.  :)  My mother constantly tells me I'm too soft with my kids and I am.  My mother was a strict disciplinarian similar to your aunt when I was a kid.  Spankings were routine and generally with the belt or the fly swatter or any other object handy.  That's why I'm so soft.


    I let me mother know early on after I became a mother, that my kids are MY KIDS.  She can give me advice and I'll always listen, but I will make the final decision on how and when to discipline my children and I and ONLY I (and DH too of course) will dole out any discipline necessary.  Nobody else has permission to spank my children, EVER! 


    My mom and I get along pretty good now.  I accept that she will be nosy and pushy and she accepts that I will ignore her and not call for a few days when she gets on my nerves. 


    I would just suggest being honest with your aunt and letting her know that you think you're a good mother, your DH thinks your a good mother and that your kids are doing fine and behave fine and if she doesn't think so, then she doesn't need to see the kids.


    just my 2 cents
    I was raised in the south. I can tell you right now that if I had told my parents not to hit me, it would not have been pretty. I raised my children in the same manner. I fully believe that children should be spanked, on the bottom, in order to press home vital issues. I have raised 2 children, boy and a girl, both now 21. My son was a handful and then some. My daughter learned the limits and basically stuck to them. My son got mixed up with the wrong crowd and that was what changed his attitude. When you love your children, you will do whatever it takes, even if it means spanking when society says "not spanking, time out". Although, if you have not been spanking all along, starting at 14 might not be the best course of action, as it will just make him more angry. One thing I tried, when my son had to serve early morning detention for not obeying the rules, I made him walk to school (8 miles one way). I told him that his bad behavior was not going to change our family routine. (I did follow him in the care, he did not know). Believe, me he did not do this but twice. This even worked as a behavior modifier with the teachers. One made a comment to him about 8 miles was a long way to walk and he straightened right up. Have enough strength in yourself to do what society may say is wrong or mean if it means saving your child.
    my 2 cents
    My opinion is that you should just move on. I know you were offended and I feel that no one should have to put up with things like that. You have to just think about it from a retail point of view... I have worked retail before and sometimes associates make small talk with customers about returns...products ect.. because that is their job.. This guy might have been just trying to be nice and SAID THE WRONG THING TO YOU! Maybe it just slipped out. I believe you need to give people the benefit of the doubt... He did apologize and felt bad over it.. I think you scared this guy into THINKING about what he says before he opens his mouth!!
    My 2 cents.......
    In this case I would say the breed and size definitely matter. These are two dogs that were bred to do a lot of damage. My mom has a chow and he is very sweet but I could see, if he felt threatened, that he might tear another dog's head off.

    I had this situation with a neighbor and we walked our dogs up and down the street, letting them see each other every day for a while. We didn't stop to talk to each other for a few days, then would stop across the street from one another and talk. Neither one of our dogs showed aggression towards the other, just more curious than anything, but mine was a lab and hers a large terrier mix. If one starts growling it would be best to jerk their leash to stop the behavior without saying a word and keep doing this when and if that behavior shows back up....every time without fail, no matter how much. If you act nervous, your dog probably will too. But again, if both dogs are very docile and laid back, it might go very well. But once you put one dog in another's house, there are territorial issues and your dog and your neighbor's will have every right to feel territorial and a fight might ensure whereas there wouldn't be one outdoors. This will definitely take time to overcome. Good luck!
    My 2 cents (sm)
    I've read most of the answers to your post, and I agree, you need to let this go.  However, if it helps, take your  last sentence and "use" that.  He has made you a better person.  Use that to begin anew.  Good luck to you.  There is someone out there worthy of you, trust me, there is.
    41 cents
    nm
    41 cents, but.....
    You can buy Forever Stamps for 41 cents which will not go up in the future. It helps.
    my 2 cents
    I don't really thing that hearing Merry Christmas sends so many people reeling, it is just the few that do not like it make so much more noise than everyone else!

    Our small town has always had a nativity display at the courthouse/city hall. This year, ONE person in a 35,000 person town complained that it violated their rights to have to drive by and see a "religious" display every day. They were offended that it was just a religious display and not a true "holiday display".

    So our mayor got very creative. He had someone create a Frosty the Snowman, Santa and Rudolph out of plywood, painted them, and then placed them next to the manger. Santa is holding baby Jesus!

    I don't understand why people get offended by other people who do not believe like they do. I really think it is just a power trip, because this event proved that ONE person can change a whole town!!

    Merry Christmas all, and if you don't celebrate Christmas, then happy holidays!
    My 2 cents.........
    Money is not the only thing he is lying to you about and you probably know it. Just what those things are, I don't know, but when a spouse lies and hides money, it is only a symptom of a lot of other things he/she is doing behind your back. That is why they become so defensive and try to turn the tables as if you are being ridiculous and just making up stuff. You know you're not going crazy.....you're a very angry fed up lady and for good reason. You know in your heart you have let this man belittle your feelings and make you feel less than a person. That's what they do to make themselves feel better about what they're doing.

    My husband made very good money and for years, he always dropped off his check (when there wasn't direct deposit) for me to deposit, pay the bills. I knew where it all was and what was where. After several years of marriage, I realized he wasn't bringing his check home but stoppng himself at the bank and depositing it. Didn't think much of it at the time, even though I asked him why he had changed. He just suddenly had an extra moment at work or had to run an errand, when all the years before, he never had time to go to the bank, needed me to do it. Starting then, he didn't even bring his check stubs home after years of leaving them in the same place. When I asked what was going on, he became very defensive and told me I didn't need to know everything about "his" money and what he did with "his" money. Told me his boss keeps hundreds of dollars at a time in his wallet and he didn't trust his wife with keeping the checkbook.... she always overdrafted, messed up stuff, etc. Well, since I had been doing all that stuff for years with never a problem, I knew it wasn't because I was doing a poor job. He always insisted I do it because he just didn't have the time. His job was high profile and many hours, so I just didn't mind. I asked him did he want to keep hundreds of dollars in his wallet, did that make him feel like a man? I didn't understand his point. He just said if he wanted to, he should be able to. I never EVER told him what to do with money. We always kept everything in the open, joint accounts, etc. So, as time went by and he became angrier when I asked why he wouldn't bring his check stubs home, I loaded up the children and left. He was the type who thought I would do nothing and he was shocked as h*ll when I did.

    The emotional turmoil that puts in your mind is simply not worth it. No answers from him, being told we don't have the money, when I knew full well we did and I would do without while he was out there blowing it on just stupid stuff. One day I had to use his car to take our child to school, let down the visor, and there was around 1600 dollars. That's all she wrote. I didn't believe for a minute he was having an affair. I just realized I was living with a very hateful man who didn't give a rat's butt about my feelings.

    It's a simple as this, it really is. When a spouse starts lying about money in your household, there is a problem. In this case, you said your husband has been lying and doing this all along. I can't imagine how you must feel from day to day. Quite frankly, I just realized my husband just was screwed up and I sure was not going to go down with him and told him if he suddenly felt the need to hide his money to make him feel like a big shot, he could explain to the judge where he hid it when child support and alimony time came around.

    Please give yourself some peace of mind. I know you are concerned about your children, but believe me, if they don't sense it right now, they will know daddy is doing something wrong towards mom sooner or later. It will affect them down the road one way or another.

    I have to tell you counseling just does not work for that kind of man. You will have to play hard ball. He will never open his eyes otherwise and be prepared that he may himself live in denial about his problem forever.....do you really want to go down that path with him? When the kids are gone, you're still stuck with those feelings or lack thereof.
    My 2 cents.

    If you really want to teach her responsibility, have her make TIMELY payments to you, just as she would if she had to take out a loan (although I wouldn't charge her interest). Have her pay for her own insurance bill and gas, although if she is running errands for you, you could work out a deal for gas--one tank a week for example. If she's too busy to have an outside job, I would come up with some type of home job for her (washing all vehicles, cleaning out the attic, etc.) so that she understands the car comes with a price tag.


    my 2 cents
    My kids aren't old enough for their own cars yet but here's what my parents did with me and I think it was a pretty good deal:

    I worked parttime to pay for my own gas and most of my insurance. My parents picked up the rest and since the car was paid off they just gave it to me. Also if there were any "upgrades" I wanted I had to pay for it myself. I was a decent student but in no way compared to your daughter.

    My hubby and I have already decided that when our oldest turns 16 we will buy him a car (older & cashola, of course) and what he will be responsible for depends on his grades and extracurricular activities. If he's on the same level as your daughter, I see no problem picking just about all her expenses. Perhaps give a weekly allowance for gas. If she has a way to earn money (i.e. babysitting) then perhaps start with just minor expenses, adding on more as she can afford it and still keep up her activities/grades.
    Just my 2 cents...

    There were occassions that I remember when our church was in deep financial trouble - both times it was because of a pastor that people didn't care for, so attendance was low, which equalled low offerings.  However, we still had to pay the salary of said pastors, as well as heating oil and electricity at the church, payroll for other employees and payroll taxes, church upkeep, etc.  Our treasurer would come to council meetings and say - I can't pay the bills, and he even stopped taking a salary at one point.  If we would've added property taxes on top of that mess, I know we would've had to close the doors.  Thankfully, God is good and we are in much better shape now.  I'm now the treasurer and I never forget what we've gone through in previous years because I know how quickly things can turn around. 


    Sorry so long winded, but I don't see it as a black and white - yes churches should pay taxes issue.  It's a big gray area with a lot of varibles.  Just my opinion.


    My 2 cents
    Seems like you are caught between a rock and a hard place, so to speak. But, I would be very cautious about pointing fingers towards someone because they make racial remarks or act different. This boy may very well have come from a family where they don't want him associating with blacks, and unfortunately, he may have adopted those feelings, but that doesn't make him a killer. In my community, lots of racial remarks are made at schools all the time, so if teachers turned everyone in, the majority of the school would be locked up. City schools are majority black, county schools are majority white. Most racial remarks are made by the black children, calling each other the "n" word, not to mention lots of other filthy things. Blacks and whites call each other names, often harmless friendly banter, but that's how it is. I understand your small community situation, but that could also be a horrible thing for that child to have to live down and accusing him unfairly could push him into even more bad feelings.... I'm sorry you are in this situation. Maybe talk to your son and ask him to not discuss this in school or with his friends anymore. Talk to his school and ask them what are they doing as a precaution today and for days to come.....hopefully, they are taking other measures as well.
    Just my 2 cents
    The school should have immediately informed you that they provided medical attention to your son (yep, ice pack = medical attention). If they called the other mother then they should have called you. In my experience (I have 6 kids) talking to the other mother will do no good, when the child is at school, it is the SCHOOLS responsibility to see this doesn't happen. You should make it known that in the future you expect a phone call from them, or they can expect one from your attorney, and if they cannot control the child in the classroom, either that child, or yours, should be moved to another part of the class, or a different class altogether. Ask yourself, how would you handle this had she stabbed him in the eye? Next time she might.
    My 2 cents

    IMHO, the school officials should be ashamed of themselves for not contacting you immediately!!   Somehow, I would expect more sensitive treatment from a Catholic private school, too. 


    I truly believe that, if my son had stabbed another child with a pencil, the school would likely have called the police and charges of assault and battery may have been filed, right there on the spot, no matter what the age.  That little girl is mighty lucky.


    In our public school district, a 2nd grader was suspended for 3 days because he remarked to the teacher that she was "pretty."  No physical harm was done.  My point is, if a child can deserve such a punishment for innocently complimenting a teacher, regardless of whether or not it constitutes "sexual harrassment", the incident with the pencil stab wound should not go unpunished, and, as the parents of the victim, you should make it clear that you do not intend to gloss over it like just a routine event in the day of a school child.  It seems to me that it is to the benefit of your child to make as big a deal of this as you need to.  If you do little to nothing, what message does that relay to your child--that he is not important enough to defend in this case?  That his rights are less important than those of the girl?  That girls should be allowed to beat up on boys with little to no punishment?  Your own son's self-esteem is at stake here.  While it is good to teach him the golden rule, it is also good to teach him to assertively stand up for his rights.


    My son is a BIG, husky boy.  Things like this happened to him during his public school years.  All he had to do was look sideways at someone, and I would be called; but when someone hurt him, the school didn't want to "bother mom and dad at work."  What an excuse.  I started documenting everything in written form, even sent faxes.  The school hated that I put everything in writing, but I believe they respected us or, at least, pretended to respect us, and my son experienced fewer problems with verbal and physical abuse from other students after that.


    Best to you.


    Here is my 2 cents sm
    First off CLEAN YOUR DRYER VENT. Not only is this costing you money, it is a significant fire hazard!!!! I have had mine done at my old house and they pulled out 40 lbs of lint. My clothes dried in FAR less time.

    Second, if you are worried about germs, especially E. coli, you use the dryer. The dirtiest place in your house is the inside of your washer, think about it. The heat of the dryer kills bacteria left from mixing the all those items of clothing from different family members. The sun and wind, while nice, don't do much to kill bacteria.

    Third, you would need to check in your area, but if you have natural gas available, it can be cheaper to have a gas dryer. At my old house, the power company gave me $50 for putting a gas dryer and another $50 for putting in a gas range. You would need to ask if they have something like that running to help defer the cost of putting in and buying a new appliance.

    Alternatively, you can hang your stuff out to dry and run in the dryer, on hot for 10 to 15 minutes to soft things back up and kill some of the bacteria from drying outside. It will soften up T shirts and towels for you as well, but it will save money.

    Look into making your own laundry detergent and dryer sheets for less money. While you are at it, look up what you can cut with your dishwasher powder to extend it and save money.
    My 2 cents
    I am honestly not putting any blame on you here. I am just going to briefly tell you my experience. I went through something similar with my son around the same age and he was right. I was yelling and fussing over the simplest things. I didn't realize it until he called me on it, and then I asked him to calmly point it out each time I was doing it. Things got much better shortly after that. I really like the calender idea. I am not saying you are doing anything wrong, but you have a lot of extra stress on you right now and may not realize how you are reacting.

    BTW, sometimes divorce is the answer. I am not divorced but my parents are and it was for the best.
    RE: My 2 cents
    I posted that before I read this post. Glad you had that talk with him. My son is much older now and the only thing we can't talk about is politics. LOL!
    My two cents
    It's a sad day when people think of children as "belongings" rather than human beings. Whether or not they are actually his own children one only knows. Debbie Rowe can can say anything she wants now that Michael is dead but she really should watch out what she says if she cares at all for them. I never followed the story of her, so I don't know whether she was paid for her services or if she is raising them or what. I don't know anything about her and I don't even know what she looks like. But if she cares anything about children she should be careful what she says because my opinion is that these children know Michael Jackson as their father.

    MJ I believe had a very troubled and disturbed soul and am glad he is finally lifted from the confines of physical life and hope he is at peace now. I got tired of the media blitz after the first 2 hours of the solid media circus. All those who criticized him and judged him when he was alive are now acting as though they were his best friends and they actually cared about him when he was alive.

    Whether or not these children are of flesh and blood or adopted they are still his children and he raised them their entire life. I think if it comes out that they were not his legally it would be devastating to them. I also wonder how much Debbie Rowe is now getting paid for her interviews. Could be a motivating factor I would say.
    My 2 cents, FWIW
    I learned a long time ago that if I went to Church for the people, I'd always get hurt. If I went for my relationship with Deity, I'd avoid much of the drama that exists in these sorts of environments. And it does exist in ALL religious environments.

    Concentrate on SPIRITUALITY rather than RELIGIOSITY, and it can really help one to have a lighter heart. I hope this helps.
    When I was in school, it was 85 cents for

    lunch and 15 cents for milk.  All 3 of my kids do go to the same school.  The discounted meals aren't exactly based on how many kids you have at the same school.  It's based on your annual income and total number of dependents.  We make too much to qualify for any of the state-funded programs (not that I'm complaining about that). 


     


    Well, here's my two cents worth (sm)
    I am sorry you are going through this. I would find it very hard to believe that both of your sisters would lie about this. I would be angry with my sister who first told me though also. If she didn't tell you back then when it really mattered, why bring it up now? Did you just seem to happy in your life? She should have told you way back then, and since she didn't, she shouold have just kept her mouth shut at this point. As for him, he has to be lying. Both of your sisters would not make something like this up, I don't think. I think the only hope is to tell him that you really do believe them and he needs to confess and tell you the truth. If it is something he did way back then but would never do now, he needs to say that. He needs to apologize to you. I think that is the only way you will be able to move ahead. If he is willing to fess up and if he tells you that he has not done this any more over the years and if you are happy with him, then I would forgive and forget. If he refuses to confess, I might believe he had more to hide than what you already know. I think you should go to a marriage counselor if he will not voluntarily admit what he did.
    ? you thought 62 cents was too much? sm
    You are lucky (or spoiled!) - I live in WA state and have been paying 98 cents a pound unless they go on sale.

    What I really notice is the price of flour- and wheat-containing goods like tortillas, crackers, etc. There are times I think, Nope, not buying, and wait for a sale.
    Just my 2 cents, these are great ideas!
    I like the card making especially.
    just my 3 cents - Spin The Bottle is okay for you...
    very curious............
    Just my 2 cents - from prior experience, sm
    When my husband retired early (pre-65), I received SS because we had a child under the age of 16 (so both parents and the child received SS). Once she turned 16, mine stopped but hers continues until 18 or she graduates from high school, whichever is later. Once she graduates this month, then she will no longer receive SS, just my husband. Also, he turned 65 this year and receives Medicare. I and my daughter have to have our own insurance. So, if your sister-in-law has a child under the age of 16, she could be right about receiving the SS, but not the Medicare.
    I use itunes. 99 cents per song...
    I like it.  I just use my debit card, and I can make a great mixed CD for $15 to $20.  You can also download a lot of CDs for $10, which is a great deal.  I have heard some people complain about the sound quality, but I don't have any nice stereos, so I wouldn't know the difference!  Once you download itunes you can also preview each song before you buy it, which is great.  It's totally legal, and 99 cents per song isn't bad.  Itunes is the only one I've used, so there may be better ones out there, but I'm happy with it.
    All of the above is good, but adding 2 cents
    If you are constantly checking on the birds, it will make them nervous. Think about what birds do in the wild for protection. If they lay a clutch of eggs, then they notice a snake hanging around, they will eat the eggs and abandon the nest until the snake goes away for good.

    I did not read your other post so I don't know what bedding material you are using, but for my finches, I would go outside and find tall grass and tear off several hand fulls. I put some in the nest and some on the cage floor for the birds to carry to the nest.

    My first egg laying experience was from an Indian finch who laid 11 eggs, sat them just fine, but the instant the first one hatched, both parents clung to the opposite side of the cage like some monster had invaded their home! I had to hand feed that baby every 45 minutes for the first 3 days! Oy, was I tired!

    One thing to add to their diet is a boiled egg - crush the complete egg, shell and all, into small pieces. They get the protein from the egg and calcium from the shell. Sprinkle some shavings from the tops of brocolli on top.

    Depending on what type of finches you have, they may need live worms for the protein. You can buy meal worms (more than 20% protein) at your local pet store pretty cheaply, but if you want to grow your own for free, write me (some people think it's disgusting, but these worms are very clean). There are other worms that are over 35% protein, but they are impossible to breed and expensive to have shipped, but the more exotic finches require them.

    I really do suggest that you don't check on them so much. I also don't know what kind of nest you are using, but I highly recommend a wooden box hinged onto the back corner or side of the cage. You can lift the lid when you see both out of the box and it will disturb them less. If the nest has nothing around it to conceal it from the rest of the room (like a cup-style canary nest), it will be hard for them to settle down.

    Write if you think of anything else you would like to know. I was a certified avian breeder and there were several difficult finches I was able to breed successfully.
    postcard stamps are 26 cents...sm
    There used to be a time when you could buy all kinda holiday postcards.  Have you ever made your own postcards outta your old cards?  Just cut off the front, draw a line down the middle, address and send...pinking shears or regular scissors work just fine ....I've done it for the last coupla years and the folks at the post office love it....It's economical and you're recycling as well.   Cat   
    Just my 2 cents, but some ideas from a former homeschooler...sm
    I homeschooled mine until circumstances dictated that I could no longer do so. While homeschooling, I was a single parent, so I know what you're going through working and homeschooling. It's obvious, though, that you're pulling your hair out and the others aren't getting schooled. If you don't want to do the daycare thing, see about swapping out with others in your co-op group to maybe "group teach" and babysit with a rotation. The kids in our co-op really enjoyed the change of pace, and the moms with younger "handfuls" got a break. Not all were cool with the idea, though, so the daycare backup is a thought. Mine did pre-K a couple of days a week before I started homeschooling, and it gave me a break. I didn't consider it anything more than a break for me and a social experience for her. Also, keep in mind that not all kids (even in the same family) are cut out for homeschooling. Some need the more socialized or structured (I don't know if you're a classicist, eclectic, unschooler, or what so it may or may not apply), but some kids need a differnt type of environment than being homeschooled can provide - which BTW says nothing about your abilities or the kids'. Just that there really are different strokes for different folks, even within the same family.
    I remember selling them for 35 cents.
    Then the year they went up to 50 cents I had to explain to all my neighbors why the price went up.

    One year my mom was in charge of ordering and receiving all the cookies for our troop. Our living room was floor to ceiling brown boxes of cookies. What a lot of work to divide all those into each girl's order. My mom said "never again". Ah, memories!
    50 cents here, but no neighbors complained!
    xx
    Woman make 72 cents for every $1 a man does so of course, sm
    Couple that with the enormous numbers of men who don't pay child support and you have a real mess.

    Did YOU marry thinking you'd get divorced and have kids to raise alone with little or no financial help? I didn't.
    Yeah I heard that they could go up 50 cents...sm
    a pack. So for a can I guess they could go up that much. I don't smoke so I can't say I feel your pain. I guess they figure the one thing they can tax is something people don't need and is bad for their health. I'm sorry that your one pleasure in life is gonna cost you an arm and a leg. I don't smoke but I feel if someone else does it is their business, not mine. Different strokes for different folks.
    Can i add my 2 cents worth? In a mall I saw this young woman (sm)
    wearing a black plastic garbage bag!  She had on black tights, a black turtleneck and the garbage bag with a hole cut out for her head and arms.  She had it cinched up around her waist with a really wide black belt!!