Well, I for 1 don't think the punishment fits the
Posted By: crime. on 2008-03-14
In Reply to: I need someone to climb on top of my house and shovel all the snow off the roof. It's getting pre - MomMTtoo
The school is waaaaay over-reacting. Suspension for 4 days? Come on, he didn't hit his teacher out of anger, just kidding around.
Oh, well. Maybe you should have him write his teacher a note of apology. That might help with his relationship in the future with her.
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He had the running fits and
loved to ride the trains and probably knew loads of people all around the country so I have first hand knowledge of not always a down on your luck kind of deal. He came from a wealthy family (his grandmother gave us stock in General Motors as a wedding gift- years ago when it was worth a lot) and there were physicians, ministers, teachers and the like. He had a degree in refinishing autos, had good homes even with my brother and at 1 time my mother AFTER our divorce - the entire family loved him but that is what he wanted, left the homes and stayed out there until he really aged. My son and his wife got call from shelter asking would they take him in and the ahelter paid his 1 way ticket to their home and he has been there now for the last, oh probably 4 years. It was his own choice, never anyone elses and know from experience you can be homeless by your own doing.
Hmm, catty fits well for you...
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Baby fits...sm
I kept my niece this last weekend, and she threw one of these little tantrums I guess you would call it. She is only 7 months but she would throw her head back and buck back and forth and scream and kick. What can you do? You can't discipline them. They are just babies. I don't remember my son doing that at that young of an age. My husband was holding her because I was cooking and he said I think she is just being ugly. So he said I tell you what kid if you do that again you are getting in the playpen and you will just have to sit there and throw your fit. She wouldn't take the bottle or anything. And then the little stinker would grin. After she had just threw an awful tantrum. My sister-in-law said she started to do this with her mom too. I don't know. Maybe my son was just a good baby because he cried and all but not throwing his head back and kicking and flopping like that. What advice would you have when keeping a baby that does this? How would you try to deter them from behaving this way or can you?
punishment
Apologies seem to stick with my children; my boy has had to apologize to his teacher for misbehaving and guess what, no problems since. I think making her apologize is appropriate and will humble her enough to never have to worry about it again.
Harsh punishment but . . .
like you, I don't agree with this sort of behavior at all. But what recourse does the school have? These days, kids communicate widely via the internet. When one child writes something evil or threatening about another child in a blog or sends bullying emails, parents go straight to the school and ask that something be done about it. In the same vein, shouldn't the school do something about their own teachers being bullied? Most schools now address this sort of thing in their parent/student handbooks.
We can leave this up to the parents, but sadly, lots of parents aren't doing their jobs, either monitoring their children's activities online or teaching them appropriate social behavior. In and of itself, this one comment about a teacher isn't so threatening, but the bigger picture can be pretty upsetting.
I have a friend whose teenage children drive me insane. I can barely keep my mouth shut around them. I would love to sit them down and tell them how obnoxious they are. They are profane and will curse in front of adults and then tell us that we're just uptight and "what's the big deal". Many times as I speak to my friend on the phone, her children will start a conversation with mom while she is on the phone to me. That's rude in itself, but the foul-mouthed comments about their teachers, etc., are horrible. Mom does nothing about it, in fact, she joins in with the remarks. In recent months, I hardly talk to my friend on the phone anymore, because these sorts of things were happening nearly every time I speak to her on the phone. That may not be relative to this situation, but it's an example of the kind of "support" that schools get from parents.
I think the school has to have some say over what the kids are doing online with respect to school, but 10 days total suspension is an awful lot.
I have found the best punishment for kids is
to do hand them the exact opposite of what they want to do. For example, does he love to go outside and play? Then he sits in his room without anything like his television, telephone, just 4 walls. If he is a couch potato then he spends time outside, even if just sitting under a tree and thinking about things. I always punished children/grandchildren with the opposite of what they loved to do. Works like a charm.
That's an interesting form of punishment
Something I might try the next time. I agree that 4 hours was a little a harsh, which is why I gave in after about 30 minutes. I will say that he was pretty good the rest of the day. He had 1 time when he started to rough-house with his brother and it ended pretty quickly when I reminded him that he could sit on the chair again, this time until his dad comes home. He quit pretty abruptly.
Thanks for your input.
Well, if the shoe fits....her mothering *skills* or lack of
were atrocious. The fact she even had another baby and it was born methadone addicted is atrocious. The way she treated that old man, first off just marrying an 87-year-old crippled man because he was a billionaire(you think if he worked at McDonald's she'd have fallen IN LOVE with him?), and then holding a tape recorder up to him while exposing her breasts to get him to say "I want you to have half my money when I die" was atrocious, and how she then without any embarrassment at all fought HIS BLOOD FAMILY for his money after he was dead was atrocious. Meanwhile she was screwing around with other guys in the old man's bed while he was in the hosital! She was pure white trash and would do anything for money and recognition, so like I said if the shoe fits.... I certainly hope not but would NEVER doubt anything when it comes to that woman. Feel bad that she died but I'm no hypocrite and so I don't change my way of thinking just because someone tragically died, as so many others do......
My father one time decided this was the punishment for my son
Had him write 200 times I must not ...... My father laughed as he told me when my son got through he said, "Now paw-paw can I do it again?" What works for 1 does not necessarily work for another.
Not withholding as punishment - withholding as a reaction (sm)
Maybe it does exacerbate the problem - but I have dealt with the problem for over 13 years. I gave in for years hoping it would help. Now, I don't care if it exacerbates the problem - unless something changes in the relationship and I feel like I want to be with him in that way, I am not doing it.
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