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We were considering a rabbit in March but decided to go with guinea pigs instead (sm)

Posted By: LS on 2006-10-19
In Reply to: Pet rabbit? - Appreciate any insight...SM

My daughter is 5 and really wanted a cat, but we just aren't "cat people."  We have a big dog, and she loves him but wanted something cuddlier.  We wanted something that she could help care for and play with.  We get the "pigs" out of their cage every day (we have a an indoor fence/play yard that we put on a towel to catch the pee and poop) and let them run around.  They have turned out to be a lot more fun than I thought they would.  They really don't smell as long as you change the bedding in the cage every three to four days (might go longer if you only had one).  From the things I've read and our experience, they are really gentle and tolerant (no one has gotten even an accidental bite since we got them in March, and we handle them ALL the time). 


The negatives are that they are quite messy ( lots more vaccuming in the room where the cage is - again might not be as bad with only one - most of the bedding goes flying when they get to chasing each other around), and they can be noisy (especially at night when you're wanting to sleep). 


They are terribly cute, and we love them but, like any animal, they are a lot of work.  I don't regret it at all, but I can see where it wouldn't be for everyone.   




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the corrupt, greedy pharmaceutical companies. I do not trust the integrity of the FDA who is in the pocket of these companies. Too many FDA-approved drugs have proven to be harmful. Maybe, and that's a big maybe, I may consider it in 5 years. Hopefully millions of young women's lives haven't been ruined in the meantime.
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A newscaster had a pet rabbit and talked on TV about how nice it was and caused us to want one.  Since then we bave had 2.  Neither of them used the litter box all the time but both used it some of the time.  They both chewed on everything.  The first one had cancer and died, probably from all the foreign material he had eaten.  The second one chewed on everything so much we took him to the nursing home where our sister-in-law was.  The nursing home had a courtyard where they already had one rabbit and they were willing to take him.  We would love to have another one, but we are afraid to try it again.  We loved both of them.  They have more personality than I would have every dreamed rabbits had.  Ours watched TV, jumped high into the air when they were happy.  I always felt sorry for them because they would tremble with fear when they had to go to the vet.  They would thump when they didn't like something.   Both of them loved rabbit's foot ferns.  They would stand on their hind legs and eat all the fern as far as they could reach.  Another bad thing about having rabbits is that they do not live very long and you get attached to them and then they die.  Another thing once they are out of the cage it is torture for them to have to go back. 
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Hello everybody! I've been searching and searching for a MT job but i can't seem to find one, so instead i've decided to dedicate one of my weekends to walking for the march of dimes. I'll be doing it 4-14-07 in my hometown. If anybody would like to help with the cause i have been given my own website for donations:


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velveteen rabbit

THE
Velveteen Rabbit


OR
HOW TOYS BECOME REAL


by Margery Williams
Illustrations by William Nicholson


DOUBLEDAY & COMPANY, INC.
Garden City                   New York





To Francesco Bianco
from
The Velveteen Rabbit





List of Illustrations


Christmas Morning
The Skin Horse Tells His Story
Spring Time
Summer Days
Anxious Times
The Fairy Flower
At Last! At Last!





HERE was once a velveteen rabbit, and in the beginning he was really splendid. He was fat and bunchy, as a rabbit should be; his coat was spotted brown and white, he had real thread whiskers, and his ears were lined with pink sateen. On Christmas morning, when he sat wedged in the top of the Boy's stocking, with a sprig of holly between his paws, the effect was charming.


There were other things in the stocking, nuts and oranges and a toy engine, and chocolate almonds and a clockwork mouse, but the Rabbit was quite the best of all. For at least two hours the Boy loved him, and then Aunts and Uncles came to dinner, and there was a great rustling of tissue paper and unwrapping of parcels, and in the excitement of looking at all the new presents the Velveteen Rabbit was forgotten.



Christmas Morning


For a long time he lived in the toy cupboard or on the nursery floor, and no one thought very much about him. He was naturally shy, and being only made of velveteen, some of the more expensive toys quite snubbed him. The mechanical toys were very superior, and looked down upon every one else; they were full of modern ideas, and pretended they were real. The model boat, who had lived through two seasons and lost most of his paint, caught the tone from them and never missed an opportunity of referring to his rigging in technical terms. The Rabbit could not claim to be a model of anything, for he didn't know that real rabbits existed; he thought they were all stuffed with sawdust like himself, and he understood that sawdust was quite out-of-date and should never be mentioned in modern circles. Even Timothy, the jointed wooden lion, who was made by the disabled soldiers, and should have had broader views, put on airs and pretended he was connected with Government. Between them all the poor little Rabbit was made to feel himself very insignificant and commonplace, and the only person who was kind to him at all was the Skin Horse.


The Skin Horse had lived longer in the nursery than any of the others. He was so old that his brown coat was bald in patches and showed the seams underneath, and most of the hairs in his tail had been pulled out to string bead necklaces. He was wise, for he had seen a long succession of mechanical toys arrive to boast and swagger, and by-and-by break their mainsprings and pass away, and he knew that they were only toys, and would never turn into anything else. For nursery magic is very strange and wonderful, and only those playthings that are old and wise and experienced like the Skin Horse understand all about it.


"What is REAL?" asked the Rabbit one day, when they were lying side by side near the nursery fender, before Nana came to tidy the room. "Does it mean having things that buzz inside you and a stick-out handle?"


"Real isn't how you are made," said the Skin Horse. "It's a thing that happens to you. When a child loves you for a long, long time, not just to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real."


"Does it hurt?" asked the Rabbit.


"Sometimes," said the Skin Horse, for he was always truthful. "When you are Real you don't mind being hurt."


"Does it happen all at once, like being wound up," he asked, "or bit by bit?"


"It doesn't happen all at once," said the Skin Horse. "You become. It takes a long time. That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in the joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand."


"I suppose you are real?" said the Rabbit. And then he wished he had not said it, for he thought the Skin Horse might be sensitive. But the Skin Horse only smiled.



The Skin Horse Tells His Story


"The Boy's Uncle made me Real," he said. "That was a great many years ago; but once you are Real you can't become unreal again. It lasts for always."


The Rabbit sighed. He thought it would be a long time before this magic called Real happened to him. He longed to become Real, to know what it felt like; and yet the idea of growing shabby and losing his eyes and whiskers was rather sad. He wished that he could become it without these uncomfortable things happening to him.


There was a person called Nana who ruled the nursery. Sometimes she took no notice of the playthings lying about, and sometimes, for no reason whatever, she went swooping about like a great wind and hustled them away in cupboards. She called this "tidying up," and the playthings all hated it, especially the tin ones. The Rabbit didn't mind it so much, for wherever he was thrown he came down soft.


One evening, when the Boy was going to bed, he couldn't find the china dog that always slept with him. Nana was in a hurry, and it was too much trouble to hunt for china dogs at bedtime, so she simply looked about her, and seeing that the toy cupboard door stood open, she made a swoop.


"Here," she said, "take your old Bunny! He'll do to sleep with you!" And she dragged the Rabbit out by one ear, and put him into the Boy's arms.


That night, and for many nights after, the Velveteen Rabbit slept in the Boy's bed. At first he found it rather uncomfortable, for the Boy hugged him very tight, and sometimes he rolled over on him, and sometimes he pushed him so far under the pillow that the Rabbit could scarcely breathe. And he missed, too, those long moonlight hours in the nursery, when all the house was silent, and his talks with the Skin Horse. But very soon he grew to like it, for the Boy used to talk to him, and made nice tunnels for him under the bedclothes that he said were like the burrows the real rabbits lived in. And they had splendid games together, in whispers, when Nana had gone away to her supper and left the night-light burning on the mantelpiece. And when the Boy dropped off to sleep, the Rabbit would snuggle down close under his little warm chin and dream, with the Boy's hands clasped close round him all night long.


And so time went on, and the little Rabbit was very happy–so happy that he never noticed how his beautiful velveteen fur was getting shabbier and shabbier, and his tail becoming unsewn, and all the pink rubbed off his nose where the Boy had kissed him.


Spring came, and they had long days in the garden, for wherever the Boy went the Rabbit went too. He had rides in the wheelbarrow, and picnics on the grass, and lovely fairy huts built for him under the raspberry canes behind the flower border. And once, when the Boy was called away suddenly to go out to tea, the Rabbit was left out on the lawn until long after dusk, and Nana had to come and look for him with the candle because the Boy couldn't go to sleep unless he was there. He was wet through with the dew and quite earthy from diving into the burrows the Boy had made for him in the flower bed, and Nana grumbled as she rubbed him off with a corner of her apron.



Spring Time


"You must have your old Bunny!" she said. "Fancy all that fuss for a toy!"


The Boy sat up in bed and stretched out his hands.


"Give me my Bunny!" he said. "You mustn't say that. He isn't a toy. He's REAL!"


When the little Rabbit heard that he was happy, for he knew that what the Skin Horse had said was true at last. The nursery magic had happened to him, and he was a toy no longer. He was Real. The Boy himself had said it.


That night he was almost too happy to sleep, and so much love stirred in his little sawdust heart that it almost burst. And into his boot-button eyes, that had long ago lost their polish, there came a look of wisdom and beauty, so that even Nana noticed it next morning when she picked him up, and said, "I declare if that old Bunny hasn't got quite a knowing expression!"


 


That was a wonderful Summer!


Near the house where they lived there was a wood, and in the long June evenings the Boy liked to go there after tea to play. He took the Velveteen Rabbit with him, and before he wandered off to pick flowers, or play at brigands among the trees, he always made the Rabbit a little nest somewhere among the bracken, where he would be quite cosy, for he was a kind-hearted little boy and he liked Bunny to be comfortable. One evening, while the Rabbit was lying there alone, watching the ants that ran to and fro between his velvet paws in the grass, he saw two strange beings creep out of the tall bracken near him.


They were rabbits like himself, but quite furry and brand-new. They must have been very well made, for their seams didn't show at all, and they changed shape in a queer way when they moved; one minute they were long and thin and the next minute fat and bunchy, instead of always staying the same like he did. Their feet padded softly on the ground, and they crept quite close to him, twitching their noses, while the Rabbit stared hard to see which side the clockwork stuck out, for he knew that people who jump generally have something to wind them up. But he couldn't see it. They were evidently a new kind of rabbit altogether.



Summer Days


They stared at him, and the little Rabbit stared back. And all the time their noses twitched.


"Why don't you get up and play with us?" one of them asked.


"I don't feel like it," said the Rabbit, for he didn't want to explain that he had no clockwork.


"Ho!" said the furry rabbit. "It's as easy as anything," And he gave a big hop sideways and stood on his hind legs.


"I don't believe you can!" he said.


"I can!" said the little Rabbit. "I can jump higher than anything!" He meant when the Boy threw him, but of course he didn't want to say so.


"Can you hop on your hind legs?" asked the furry rabbit.


That was a dreadful question, for the Velveteen Rabbit had no hind legs at all! The back of him was made all in one piece, like a pincushion. He sat still in the bracken, and hoped that the other rabbits wouldn't notice.


"I don't want to!" he said again.


But the wild rabbits have very sharp eyes. And this one stretched out his neck and looked.


"He hasn't got any hind legs!" he called out. "Fancy a rabbit without any hind legs!" And he began to laugh.


"I have!" cried the little Rabbit. "I have got hind legs! I am sitting on them!"


"Then stretch them out and show me, like this!" said the wild rabbit. And he began to whirl round and dance, till the little Rabbit got quite dizzy.


"I don't like dancing," he said. "I'd rather sit still!"


But all the while he was longing to dance, for a funny new tickly feeling ran through him, and he felt he would give anything in the world to be able to jump about like these rabbits did.


The strange rabbit stopped dancing, and came quite close. He came so close this time that his long whiskers brushed the Velveteen Rabbit's ear, and then he wrinkled his nose suddenly and flattened his ears and jumped backwards.


"He doesn't smell right!" he exclaimed. "He isn't a rabbit at all! He isn't real!"


"I am Real!" said the little Rabbit. "I am Real! The Boy said so!" And he nearly began to cry.


Just then there was a sound of footsteps, and the Boy ran past near them, and with a stamp of feet and a flash of white tails the two strange rabbits disappeared.


"Come back and play with me!" called the little Rabbit. "Oh, do come back! I know I am Real!"


But there was no answer, only the little ants ran to and fro, and the bracken swayed gently where the two strangers had passed. The Velveteen Rabbit was all alone.


"Oh, dear!" he thought. "Why did they run away like that? Why couldn't they stop and talk to me?"


For a long time he lay very still, watching the bracken, and hoping that they would come back. But they never returned, and presently the sun sank lower and the little white moths fluttered out, and the Boy came and carried him home.


 


Weeks passed, and the little Rabbit grew very old and shabby, but the Boy loved him just as much. He loved him so hard that he loved all his whiskers off, and the pink lining to his ears turned grey, and his brown spots faded. He even began to lose his shape, and he scarcely looked like a rabbit any more, except to the Boy. To him he was always beautiful, and that was all that the little Rabbit cared about. He didn't mind how he looked to other people, because the nursery magic had made him Real, and when you are Real shabbiness doesn't matter.


And then, one day, the Boy was ill.


His face grew very flushed, and he talked in his sleep, and his little body was so hot that it burned the Rabbit when he held him close. Strange people came and went in the nursery, and a light burned all night and through it all the little Velveteen Rabbit lay there, hidden from sight under the bedclothes, and he never stirred, for he was afraid that if they found him some one might take him away, and he knew that the Boy needed him.


It was a long weary time, for the Boy was too ill to play, and the little Rabbit found it rather dull with nothing to do all day long. But he snuggled down patiently, and looked forward to the time when the Boy should be well again, and they would go out in the garden amongst the flowers and the butterflies and play splendid games in the raspberry thicket like they used to. All sorts of delightful things he planned, and while the Boy lay half asleep he crept up close to the pillow and whispered them in his ear. And presently the fever turned, and the Boy got better. He was able to sit up in bed and look at picture-books, while the little Rabbit cuddled close at his side. And one day, they let him get up and dress.


It was a bright, sunny morning, and the windows stood wide open. They had carried the Boy out on to the balcony, wrapped in a shawl, and the little Rabbit lay tangled up among the bedclothes, thinking.


The Boy was going to the seaside to-morrow. Everything was arranged, and now it only remained to carry out the doctor's orders. They talked about it all, while the little Rabbit lay under the bedclothes, with just his head peeping out, and listened. The room was to be disinfected, and all the books and toys that the Boy had played with in bed must be burnt.


"Hurrah!" thought the little Rabbit. "To-morrow we shall go to the seaside!" For the boy had often talked of the seaside, and he wanted very much to see the big waves coming in, and the tiny crabs, and the sand castles.


Just then Nana caught sight of him.


"How about his old Bunny?" she asked.


"That?" said the doctor. "Why, it's a mass of scarlet fever germs!–Burn it at once. What? Nonsense! Get him a new one. He mustn't have that any more!"



Anxious Times


And so the little Rabbit was put into a sack with the old picture-books and a lot of rubbish, and carried out to the end of the garden behind the fowl-house. That was a fine place to make a bonfire, only the gardener was too busy just then to attend to it. He had the potatoes to dig and the green peas to gather, but next morning he promised to come quite early and burn the whole lot.


That night the Boy slept in a different bedroom, and he had a new bunny to sleep with him. It was a splendid bunny, all white plush with real glass eyes, but the Boy was too excited to care very much about it. For to-morrow he was going to the seaside, and that in itself was such a wonderful thing that he could think of nothing else.


And while the Boy was asleep, dreaming of the seaside, the little Rabbit lay among the old picture-books in the corner behind the fowl-house, and he felt very lonely. The sack had been left untied, and so by wriggling a bit he was able to get his head through the opening and look out. He was shivering a little, for he had always been used to sleeping in a proper bed, and by this time his coat had worn so thin and threadbare from hugging that it was no longer any protection to him. Near by he could see the thicket of raspberry canes, growing tall and close like a tropical jungle, in whose shadow he had played with the Boy on bygone mornings. He thought of those long sunlit hours in the garden–how happy they were–and a great sadness came over him. He seemed to see them all pass before him, each more beautiful than the other, the fairy huts in the flower-bed, the quiet evenings in the wood when he lay in the bracken and the little ants ran over his paws; the wonderful day when he first knew that he was Real. He thought of the Skin Horse, so wise and gentle, and all that he had told him. Of what use was it to be loved and lose one's beauty and become Real if it all ended like this? And a tear, a real tear, trickled down his little shabby velvet nose and fell to the ground.


And then a strange thing happened. For where the tear had fallen a flower grew out of the ground, a mysterious flower, not at all like any that grew in the garden. It had slender green leaves the colour of emeralds, and in the centre of the leaves a blossom like a golden cup. It was so beautiful that the little Rabbit forgot to cry, and just lay there watching it. And presently the blossom opened, and out of it there stepped a fairy.


She was quite the loveliest fairy in the whole world. Her dress was of pearl and dew-drops, and there were flowers round her neck and in her hair, and her face was like the most perfect flower of all. And she came close to the little Rabbit and gathered him up in her arms and kissed him on his velveteen nose that was all damp from crying.


"Little Rabbit," she said, "don't you know who I am?"


The Rabbit looked up at her, and it seemed to him that he had seen her face before, but he couldn't think where.


"I am the nursery magic Fairy," she said. "I take care of all the playthings that the children have loved. When they are old and worn out and the children don't need them any more, then I come and take them away with me and turn them into Real."


"Wasn't I Real before?" asked the little Rabbit.


"You were Real to the Boy," the Fairy said, "because he loved you. Now you shall be Real to every one."



The Fairy Flower


And she held the little Rabbit close in her arms and flew with him into the wood.


It was light now, for the moon had risen. All the forest was beautiful, and the fronds of the bracken shone like frosted silver. In the open glade between the tree-trunks the wild rabbits danced with their shadows on the velvet grass, but when they saw the Fairy they all stopped dancing and stood round in a ring to stare at her.


"I've brought you a new playfellow," the Fairy said. "You must be very kind to him and teach him all he needs to know in Rabbit-land, for he is going to live with you for ever and ever!"


And she kissed the little Rabbit again and put him down on the grass.


"Run and play, little Rabbit!" she said.


But the little Rabbit sat quite still for a moment and never moved. For when he saw all the wild rabbits dancing around him he suddenly remembered about his hind legs, and he didn't want them to see that he was made all in one piece. He did not know that when the Fairy kissed him that last time she had changed him altogether. And he might have sat there a long time, too shy to move, if just then something hadn't tickled his nose, and before he thought what he was doing he lifted his hind toe to scratch it.


And he found that he actually had hind legs! Instead of dingy velveteen he had brown fur, soft and shiny, his ears twitched by themselves, and his whiskers were so long that they brushed the grass. He gave one leap and the joy of using those hind legs was so great that he went springing about the turf on them, jumping sideways and whirling round as the others did, and he grew so excited that when at last he did stop to look for the Fairy she had gone.


He was a Real Rabbit at last, at home with the other rabbits.


 



At Last! At Last!


Autumn passed and Winter, and in the Spring, when the days grew warm and sunny, the Boy went out to play in the wood behind the house. And while he was playing, two rabbits crept out from the bracken and peeped at him. One of them was brown all over, but the other had strange markings under his fur, as though long ago he had been spotted, and the spots still showed through. And about his little soft nose and his round black eyes there was something familiar, so that the Boy thought to himself:


"Why, he looks just like my old Bunny that was lost when I had scarlet fever!"


But he never knew that it really was his own Bunny, come back to look at the child who had first helped him to be Real.


Editor:


This book has been put on-line as part of the BUILD-A-BOOK Initiative at the
Celebration of Women Writers.
Initial text entry and proof-reading of this book were the work of
John Mark Ockerbloom and Mary Mark Ockerbloom.


Illustrations may vary somewhat in size, color, and placement from the original.


Editor:


We've had a rabbit for almost a year now....sm
she's a great pet to have. She's the sweetest thing - loves to nuzzle between my neck and chest and watch TV sitting there with me. We let her out of her cage a couple of times a day to run around in addition to making sure she has lots of food, water, timothy hay and chew toys around.
Any bunny rabbit pet owners out there? sm
Our bunny has a malocclused jaw and therefore she has a front tooth that continues to grow, having to be trimmed about once a month.  The vet says there's really nothing we can do to prevent this other than continue to encourage the rabbit to eat foods that would have her using her front tooth.  Have you encountered this and if so, did you find something that helped slow down the growth?   Thank you!
Why didn't I think to march in our parade
carrying a sign saying keep our medical records in the US.  Oh, I'm working!
Yikes. It seems so soon. And I do not like it when Easter is in March.
Too chilly for the Easter dresses and no spring flowers out yet. Not a springy Easter Bunny feeling Here in Northern New Jersey just had 4 more inches added Friday from our previous 8, which had melted away and now the white stuff back on the ground. Probably will snow on Easter, although going to be in the mid 50s today. One can only hope.
Universal had Dr. Suess in March 2005
they also had Nickelodeon. You will definitely want more than one day no matter which places you go to.
My pumpkins are gone! I planted 4 pumpkin seeds in March sm

which grew up really nice and started to grow out like vines - got pretty white flowers in them which means the pumpkins would be coming out in a few weeks.


I haven't checked up on them all week because we've had plenty of rain so I haven't had to water them.  I go today with my big bucket of water and there was only dirt left with holes. They dug them up and ate EVERYTHING - the stalks, flowers, everything!  I am really upset.


I have 3 boys - 2 little ones, and we live in the country. Every year I spend about 80.00 on pumpkins decorating our porch, land, etc with pumpkins. I though I'd be a little more economical and plant seeds in the spring which cost a dollar so that I could have nice, ripe pumpkins, as many as I wanted - for the fall.


I'm thinking rabbits got them. We have indoor cat/dog so it wasn't my animals. I'm not sure what to do next spring. I'm not giving up. How can I keep animals from getting to them like that???


I want to cry.......I've been going out into the field and watching them grow..they were my babies..


Bunny borsch, rabbit stew and Bugs pot pie.

: )


My husband usually gets a 12,000 bonus every year in March and then takes home around 7 or 8. It IS
sickening - that the Govt. gets that much out of taxes. I hate it. WE are standing behind the Fair Tax for this very reason. Somethings gottah happen. Remember the Boston Tea Party? This govt is just out of control in its spendind. 39% How is one supposed to live when we only bring home 70% of our actual pay? Doesn't that anger some of you?????????????????????????????????????????
I forgot: ecargots, rabbit-, deer- shark-meat.s are no,no for me, too..nm
nm
most are pigs....*lol*

You have been around some pigs!
My husband the exact opposite of what you list- when we first married I had bugs- he showed me how to rinse cans screw out prior to putting in garbage, things too big for garbage disposal wrapped in plastic, put in freezer until night before garbage runs, taken out and discarded- no sting for the garbage that way as still frozen by time picked up, carries liquid soap in container and paper towels with him when traveling so will have things to wash his hands with, santizes with alcohol telephones, remote controls- is a chef and would NEVER think about leaving food particles on anything- says I don’t wash dishes clean enough (my sight not as good as his) and I leave particles and he has to rewash. He buys really good cookware and he told me NOT to use a certain tool because it would scratch the pan - you know some guy or guys but you sure don’t know them all. I guess mine not passive-aggressive like the ones you have met.
Gays march for their rights to be involved with their long-time partners
health care should a drastic decision be made. It is usually a family member...even though we are the ones who take care of our partners when they are sick or dying. We fight for the right not to be thrown out of a shared house by the partner's parents. We want to honor our partner's wishes when they die as we are the ones who have spent years with them - not the family. These are just a few examples.

As far as your comment that we influence young people - that is absurd. All we want is to live our life and as pxmt said, be able to walk down the street without abusive comments, being assaulted, ridiculed, etc.

The school system is not segregating gay children - they are making it "gay friendly and teaching tolerance". Suicide is very high in gay children because of the parents who teach their children that it is evil and it is okay to bash a gay child. These schools are just trying to save the lives of young children.

As far as your comment that Christian's homes and churches are burned, sorry but I cannot recall one incident that I have read or saw on the news. Temples yes. As far as being assaulted for your beliefs, could it be because you stand in front of abortion clinics and gun down the doctors and nurses that come out or go into the clinic? Could it be that you bully the 15 and 16-year-olds who have been raped and want an abortion?

Sorry to say this, at least we (gays) are not violent and just want to be left alone.
Pigs at the Trough




New York Times bestseller in hardcover.  From a provocative, nationally syndicated columnist comes a blistering, wickedly funny indictment of the nexus of corporate chiefs, Wall St. analysts and lawyers who have perpetrated massive corporate fraud in America, and how these boondoggles are cheating average Americans.

Review:


A rousing call to action against special interests that have all too often triumphed over the national interest.  As only she can, Arianna Huffington breathes energy and passion into the reform agenda. A withering, breathtaking, quintessentially controversial book that will inspire, inflame, and educate. Senator John McCain

 

 

Who filled the trough?  Who set the table at the banquet of greed?  How has it been possible for corporate pigs to gorge themselves on grossly inflated pay packages and heaping helpings of stock options while the average American struggles to make do with THEIR LEFTOVERS?


Provocative political commentator Arianna Huffington yanks back the curtain on the unholy alliance of CEOs, politicians, lobbyists, and Wall Street bankers who have shown a brutal disregard for those in the office cubicles and on the factory floors. As she puts it:


“The economic game is not supposed to be rigged like some shady ring toss on a carnival midway.”   Yet it has been, allowing corporate crooks to bilk the public out of trillions of dollars, magically making our pensions and 401(k)s disappear and walking away with astronomical PAYOUTS and absurdly lavish perks-for-life.


The media have put their fingers on pieces of the sordid puzzle, but Pigs at the Trough presents the whole ugly picture of what’s really going on for the first time—a blistering, wickedly witty portrait of exactly how and why the worst and the GREEDIEST are running American business and government into the ground.


Making the case that our public watchdogs have become little more than obedient lapdogs, unwilling to bite the corporate hand that feeds them, Arianna Huffington turns the spotlight on the tough reforms we must demand from Washington.  We need, she argues, to go way beyond the lame Corporate Responsibility Act if we are to stop the voracious corporate predators from eating away at the very foundations of our democracy.


Devastatingly funny and powerfully indicting, Pigs at the Trough is a rousing call to arms and a must-read for all those who are outraged by the scandalous state of corporate America.


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pot bellied pigs
what a pet!
Right, and pigs fly. You outed yourself as pagan by the way you
made your post. 
DOG FOOD FED TO CHICKENS AND PIGS

I absolutely find it hard to believe that some fool took all the recalled dog food and sold it to farmers raising chickens and pigs and that these fools bought it... now the chickens and pigs are contaminated.. Who eats chickens and pigs  WE DO... well we think India is a bad thing, dealing with the CHINESE is worse apparently, They have been adding melanine to made the protein content look higher.  THey were also caught selling off the sewage and some company extracted the fats and made lard out of them and sold that for human consumption also. 


What are all these people thinking of.. other than to exterminate US dogs, chickens and cows, enough of buying from these countries.  It has to stop somewhere, they can poison our food, all in the name of the almightly dollar or YEN or whatever they use.


Disgusted


DOG FOOD FED TO CHICKENS AND PIGS
From what we just read, the recalled pet food was then sold or given to pig farmers, as well as the wheat gluten that went into the chicken food.
Oh that's so funny! Pigs are kind of
like big labs, playing in their water. It's hilarious to watch them at the dog park. One of the big bushes has a moat around it that can fill with water after a rain, and every time a dog takes the plunge to wallow, the crowd wails in sympathy for the poor owner. :op
The people in the next neighborhood over have pot bellied pigs
They have three of them. They're too cute. I'm sure they eat a lot, but from what I know they're supposed to be good pets. My brother-in-law was actually going to get one once. I can't remember why he changed his mind.
Wait! No pigs in the White House, though. Nevermind..that rule has already been broken! nm
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Nana - you are so funny! If only pigs had fingers!! I'm gonna have to try the Got2B shampoo (nm)
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Wanted to but we decided on sm
The Phantom (have front row seats), Blue Man, and Etta James is going to be there on Friday and my friend HAS to see her.  We're only there 4 nights and the first one we get there at 9:30, so we just didn't have enough time.  Next time!
Having known the risks up front, I decided
myself never to have a child after 30 even. I had my first at 21 and then my daughter was born when I was 29. I just had always heard the risks and did not want to take them myself. Everyone can do what they want but the older here is not always the better.
I am so glad you decided not to go with Biospot
Funny I did not realize I had emailed you, but couldn't figure out where my post went, thanks for letting me know you got the information. This was several years ago with my cat and she is fine now. Thanks for asking. All for the animals.
guess they decided to leave it up to everyone's

It stopped when parents decided to....

be friends with Susie and Tommy rather than parents. They want their kids to like them, don't want to hurt the poor little ones feelings or harm their self-esteem. Instead of rules they compromise, instead of depriving them of certain things these parents lavish them with every material thing they can for fear of being called a bad mom or dad. It's easier to buy the kid stuff and let them do what they want rather than buck up and be a parent. You all know who you are out there. I have to laugh when I see the 12-year-old who is dressed like a 22-year-old who is at the mall with her 35-year-old mother who is dressed like a 12-year-old. I also think the role models in the home have a lot to do with it too. Mom and dad probably don't respect each other, argue, use foul language, what is a kid to do but think that's the way relationships work. Many parents today are raising the furture  princess whiny-give me-buy me and prince disrepectful-treat women like crap-selfish adults of tomorrow. We are doomed!


Thanks for all the good information, this is what I have decided
Next year I start drawing over $500.00 per month on a retirement fund (from the hospital that outsourced us). I still wanted to keep working. My thing was I knew before full retirement that SS took away part of the money you make and after full retirement age you can make any and all without them taking away. I want to work after full, draw the retirement starting in 04/2008 and then wait until the full retirement (03/2009) and then I will have the full money. I do not want to quit working, just wanted to see what everyone thought about taking a % off if you took SS before your regular retirement age.he Thanks everyone for all the info.
Decided the same thing at age 40 - good for you!
Of course, people did not like the abrupt change I made and it made many angry, but you know what? I do not care. I am a good wife, daughter, sister, and friend, but I refuse to be a doormat to anyone. Life is too short!
I am the same age and decided the same thing last year.
Though, I fall back into old doormat habits, but I try to keep myself in check on a daily basis. You know people pleasing is a habit difficult to get out of. And by people pleasing, I seem to attract the wrong kind of people... I think the users of the world can smell a person who is willing to overlook users so they can help to feel useful.
I am trying to boost self-esteem and as I do little things for myself, I find I can use my judgement of character better. Instead of helping everyone, I help myself and still feeling guilty. This is something to get over. Once we do for ourselves we have enough inside to do for others in a healthy way.. and it will be reciprocal. How is it that so many MTs are such givers? The old saying "if I would have known then what I know now..." etc.
That was for Bush's plan, which they decided against
The Tax Stimulus plan that has tentatively been decided on is 600 per person that earned at least 3000 in 2007 and then an additional 600 per child in the family. Married couples couldn't have made more than 150,000 either.
We have decided to seek professional help.
My husband and I talked and decided that for all our sakes and to try and do things right, we are seeking professional help to guide us through this.

I feel somewhat more relieved with that in mind.

I hope all this works out for the best.

Thanks everyone
We've decided to use these approaches

first.  H is going to call around to see who has stove insulation.  I will scrub it down with baking soda like someone else suggested.  I have also read on the internet to sprinkle the new insulation Cayenne peper.   They said the house had a fragrance for a while, but they never had to deal iwth rat pee anymore.  If anything, I don't see why we cannot at least use the top part.  I may just get rid of my cake mixes and cookie mixes.  I guess I can either give them to my mom or give them to the food bank.  We do have a George Foreman MIL gave us for Christmas.  I have hardly used it because it was hard to clean.  I considered selling it.  


 Right now, I just don't think we can afford it without using credit.  We owe too much already.  It is so bad that I have been looking around to see what I can sell.  Not to buy a new stove but to pay some of this stuff down.  We have Christmas to do and next month we have property taxes, car tags. 


I am so glad my younger man decided
to hook up with this lady. It has been more than what I could have ever expected. He was the first guy I ever dated younger, married and never realized such a man existed. Totally in love with him 10 years later.
My father one time decided this was the punishment for my son
Had him write 200 times I must not ...... My father laughed as he told me when my son got through he said, "Now paw-paw can I do it again?" What works for 1 does not necessarily work for another.
Thanks...I decided to make an appt tomorrow (sm)
wondering if I have some compression on my inferior vena cava when I lie down which is causing hypotension...not sure what is doing the compressing though - guess that's why I need a doctor, huh :-)

I've decided to purchase a bicycle and would

appreciate any advice, experience, do or dont's on buying one.  One of the reasons I hate cycling is because of those small seats and my backside is fairly large (all the more reason to exercise).  I need to start getting more exercise for health reasons or I'm headed in for serious problems. 


TIA


The next time I decided to make real
mashed potatoes. Didn't know how many potatoes I needed for 2 people, so I peeled about 6 or 7 potatoes. Once again, too many taters! LOL!
Anyone else with gallbladder problems and decided not to have surgery
and symptoms you had and what did you do instead?
School decided to make a new class/2/3rd graders

I get a message on my phone this weekend from principal saying my daughter was selected to be put in a 2/3 grade class.  She is in 2nd grade.  I think personally something else is up.  Why such a great class being formed in January??? and why call on the weekend?  She's not that upset about it, but we just moved to the area and this starts this morning.  So now she had to meet new friends and now new friends again.  Not sure how I should handle this.  I'm upset, but at same time, might not be a bad thing.  I do want to let them know I'm not pleased though.


 


Hysterectomy. Thank you everyone for your thoughts and opinions. I have decided to go ahead with t
After obtaining the opinions of different physicians, the concensus is that my safest bet to avoid developing cancer given my borderline ovarian tumor is to proceed with a total hysterectomy. After pondering and fretting, although I am not thrilled with having a hysterectomy at age 42, I also don't want to be faced with developing cancer in the future, as they tell me I have a 20% probability of developing problems in the other ovary with my history. So full speed ahead....hysterectomy it is. If anyone of you has had a complete hysterectomy, I would love to hear from you regarding how you fared after the whole thing, if you required hormones, felt good, felt bad, etc. Thanks in advance.
I decided to grow tomatoes for my 10 year old who loves them! sm
I planted 2 plants and they grew up so tall - totally pesticide free with no bugs on them all year! We had so many that I would give them to a neighbor. One batch was picked up by a woman who drove 30 miles for our tomatoes! I don't like them.....They were no big deal planting - just put them in the ground and watered every day.
My family decided last year to just enjoy the holidays
We're all adults, no children, and live in small homes or apartments. I NEED tons of stuff, but have no place to put much of anything, and can't afford to reciprocate with a gift. Same with a couple other siblings. My mom's been impossible to buy gifts for, for probably the last 10 years. I was the first to bow out the year before last. I started the ball rolling because I just plain couldn't afford it anymore, and was too busy working all the time to spend hours on end in a department store. I had a new job, no PTO, and NO money, so I alerted everyone that I wasn't going to play the game that year. Turns out it was a relief to all! And last year, without all the holiday 'getting mauled at the mall' disasters, each of us had quiet, happy, stress-free holidays. So now that we've eliminated the gift-giving aspect of Christmas, I finally can look forward to the season and enjoy it again.
The day I felt repulsed by my husband's advances was the day I decided to leave.
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I've decided to start a cookie business! Anyone up for helping me out with a name?
I know with the economy and all, it's probably not a good time to open a new business, but I've been thinking about this for years and just want to do it anyway and very happy and excited about it!

So, some words I've been playing around with are yummy, goodies, goodness, sweets, comfort, cookies ... but nothing is really grabbing me. I've even tried to think of ideas without those type of words above, such as "Big D's" or whatever.

If anyone has any good ideas, I'd love to hear them!