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We started out with 2 rabbits indoors, and then moved them outdoors because..sm

Posted By: animal lover on 2006-10-19
In Reply to: Pet rabbit? - Appreciate any insight...SM

we found out that they were male and female instead of two females!! This past spring we ended up with babies and kept all of them. We got rid of the male rabbit shortly after the female became pregnant because he was so aggressive. We now have seven rabbits and love them!! My husband built a huge rabbit area on our land (we live in the country) and my kids love taking care of them and playing with them. The short time they were in the house they were really no problem. My sister in law has several in her house also with no problem. She tried doing the potty training and litter thing, but it just didnt work out that well.


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Borrow a cat!! Keep it indoors a week or so! (nm)
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Should house cats be confined indoors?
I'll be the first to admit I'm not a cat lover, and therefore have no idea how their minds work, but this seems not-fair to me. I don't like to see them roaming the neighborhood. Can a cat be trained to just stay in its own yard?

BOULDER, Colo. -- Bruce Bland says domestic house cats are wreaking havoc on native birds and mice and wants a law that would require homeowners to keep their feline friends indoors.

Most cats are allowed to roam outdoors while their owners are at work. Experts say cats kill hundreds of millions of birds and billions of rabbits, squirrels and other small mammals every year, the Camera reported.

Bland said most of those animals wouldn't otherwise be dying and "many of them are undoubtedly suffering."

More at:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/15547863/detail.html
Ugh! I really hope it's outdoors!
My husband quit 3 years ago, and he can't believe how much he hates to be around smoke now.

Hey, I know - if the weather is nice you could wear some really heavy perfume (if you can stand it) and maybe they'll be so overcome by the perfume that they MOVE the party outdoors. Or at least they'll all be suffering as much as you are, LOL.
Could be raccoons... do you leave dog food outdoors?
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how about a nice floral plant for outdoors?
When we bought our first house, we needed a lot of landscaping done.  My gram bought us an outdoor trash can.  Those things are kind of pricy and new homeowners don't always have a lot of extra cash.  Plus, if she lived in an apartment, she probably doesn't have one.  Of course, if you opt with that, I would send her a gift card from Wal-Mart with a note attached as to the purpose.  I love getting gift cards.  Add a personal family photo if you don't just want to give the gift card or a nice candle.
My husband built special houses outdoors for
our cats. We have strays, which we have collected over the years. He built a couple small houses that look like doghouses. He installed infrared heat bulbs inside each house -the kind you can buy at a pet store to keep reptiles warm. He bought guards that go around the bulbs so that the animals don't actually touch the bulbs, which I think you can get at a Lowe's or Home Depot. It may sound complicated, but it did not take him long at all. We have used these houses for years and the cats love them. I can look out my back window on a cold day to see 6 cats(3 in each house)keeping warm in those houses. A girl I work with liked them so much she had him make one for her cats. Gee, maybe we should start a business!
Rabbits are not easy to take care of. We have 2. We have the ideal sm
setup for them outside in the barn in rabbit cages that are very long (they connect and measure 7 feet across), so they have plenty of jumping room. The cages sit above concrete so cleaning up their mess is easy with a broom and catcher. I would NOT recommend they be kept indoors. After much research, I found that rabbits need tons of attention AND they need to be left out of their cage. They chew anything and everything so you cannot have them around any cords whatsoever. They poop A LOT too. I have to sweep every single day out there and they leave over 100 pellets a day. It's a mess and can't imagine the mess and smell indoors.

This is just my opinion. Also, people are highly allergic to rabbit hair. You have to consider that factor. I reallly hated to burst your buble, but these rabbits we keep outdoors are more maintenance than I have some days. Good luck in whatever you decide to do.
I've witnessed indoor rabbits
and they are quite destructive with their chewing. I was in a business where a rabbit was allowed to roam. It was destroying the wood trim all around the room, and also chewing the couch fabric. We had an outside rabbit when I was a kid. She died of a foot infection. I read those are fairly common in rabbits.

If you keep the rabbit outside, be aware that many dog breeds can't help themselves around rabbits ... my two, for example.

And hamsters are huge escape artists. Since they are nocturnal, they escape at night. It's a real pain, especially if you have a cat.
I just use cat and dog names. Have enough I haven't had to go to poultry/rabbits yet. nm
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I am allergic to cats, rabbits and dogs BUT sm
I live happily and allergy free with my miniature poodle! She sleeps IN MY BED and I don't sneeze or wheeze, my eyes don't swell, my throat doesn't close, NOTHING. She woke me up her favorite way yesterday morning...rubbing her short top knot all over my face and chin while she is snorts so I wake up giggling. Not a sneeze.

In all fairness, she is bathed at least once every 2 weeks, sometimes weekly. I groom her myself (as in shaving her) and I don't have problems.

Poodles are under rated for intelligence especially what are viewed as nervous, little yappy miniatures. Poodles are only like that if they have morons for owners. I respect my poodle's intelligence by believing her in abilities and teaching her patiently. She is so well behaved it is not believable! When my kids were here for my daughter's wedding, my younger son was very surprised when I gave my dog a direction in 2 words only (Her name and NO!) pointing where I wanted her to go. There was no sneaking behind my back, no trying again, no being told twice, she was perfect. Her owner is not a moron and she is not nervous.

Don't disrespect and underrate a poodle!

Sorry, I got off track, but I SO LOVE MY POODLE!!!!! This woman's best friend is her dog.
Deer and rabbits especially think my garden is an outdoor diner. (sm)
Have tried multiple things, can keep rabbits out of green beans, peas and lettuce until they get larger and not so palatable by using chicken wire bent over the rows and pegged down. The deer seem to prefer to just rip smaller branches off the fruit trees and really seem to hit the melons hard.

One of the things that I have tried and works pretty well for me is Irish Spring tied in the branches of fruit trees. I suppose it is the smell they don't like.

Anything else you come up with, please share.

The produce in the store isn't going to do anything but get higher with strikes, etc.
Haven't started shopping yet, but have started saving $$$
Don't have an awful lot yet, but both hubby and I are doing it (separate accounts) so we should have a good amount when we combine. My goal is to start shopping in September after my daughter's birthday and finish by Thanksgiving. That's my goal. I have never reached it! Maybe this year!
And FYI, the thread we are posting in right now was one I started, you started the earlier one. nm
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Dogs are CoCo, Max, and Monroe. Cat is named KeKe. Rabbits are...sm
Snowy, Snowball, Butterbean, Cotton, Arrow (he has a perfect black arrow on his back!), Cow, Sandy patches, and Lil Fry because she was our runt last year!
Gottah share. Last fall we got 2 rabbits. Was told both were females. Guess what? sm

That's not true! We had a swim party over here and the kids went to check on the rabbits and there were 10 in there! OMG.  I didn't believe them at first, but then they started describing the scene and I knew they weren't kidding. The rabbits stay up at our barn where we housed our goats.


 


Anyways, I guess the people we bought them from can't tell the difference between male and female!  I pray these babies survive. They are so tiny! The mom is huge. It's an addition to our family......We are excited...Will keep you updated..


I haven't started yet, but have started my lists.
The only reason I haven't started yet is because of $$$. But I have started some good lists for the kids and the DH. I actually have some good ideas for him this year (he is hard to buy for).

I'm like you, I love Christmas but hate the commercialism of it. We were at Costco a while back looking for Halloween costumes and they already had their Christmas stuff out. They always make me feel like I'm already late on my shopping!

I may do a lot of online shopping this year. It's easier with little ones. My 2yo is more aware this year so taking him with me to buy his own presents is out. Darn!

It always seems that Halloween (my favorite) takes forever to get here, but once it's over, then the holiday rush is on.

Happy Holidays everyone!
groundhogs,squirrels, wild turkeys, rabbits, raccoon, goat and deer meat..sm

Some folks just take for granted that they can walk into a market and shop for meat...We've done the same for similar reasons as you and nothing was wasted.   At least you're self sufficient!!!  And, I bet you've put up/canned/frozen all the vegetables from the summer/fall harvest.   


Didn't mean to be flippant in my earlier post...whack it, hack it, pack it and stack it...  Cat 


  


 


When we moved, our dog went through some
anxiety issues and what the vet said was allergies. I think it was more anxiety from the kennel though. He gave us some meds to give him for a week since he was biting his tail. He swings his tail like crazy and would hit it on the walls and break it back open. Least to say, I was cleaning up blood splatter for a long time; no fun!

My mom has a co-worker who also had a dog with the same problem. His vet told him to give him Benadryl. After we ran out of the meds the doctor gave us, we gave our dog Benadryl. He has since adjusted and quit biting his tail. Everything is healed up fine, and we've had no need to give him anymore meds. That is why I think it was more anxiety than allergies.

I would suggest giving her can food for now so she can get some nutrients into her. Make sure she is drinking water because she could get dehydrated easily from vomiting and get her to take some Benadryl. We used the liquid kind with a squirter because it worked faster. Also, see if she will eat some boiled chicken. Try something soft and bland. Good luck! I hope she gets to feeling better soon!
So have you moved away, never to
return to her home, or do you continue to do the "good daughter" thing and go home for visits, or invite her to your home. If so, why?

I ask because I knew somebody whose family and especially mother were absolutely toxic, but she still had her in her life. I believe I would have moved out as soon as feasible and not shared my address or phone number.
I am currently 50 and moved away from
my hometown about 8 years after high school. Just recently joined the Facebook craze and now have reconnected with several.
when we moved into this sm
neighborhood 24 years ago it was a quiet country type neighborhood. Unfortunately, all the "quiet" ones have died, their kids have taken over (their kids are the same age as us) and not kept up the property. Also there are a couple houses two doors down that were always so neat and clean even though they were quite small. The owners sold them to a company who rents them out to illegals who have destroyed the property. Our home and about four more around us are immaculate and we are the ones suffering. Can't afford to move. Houses to expensive in the town I live in.
When we moved into our house..sm

the people who lived here before us had a rabbit that got out of the hutch and they couldn't get it back in, so it lived in our yard.  One nice warm evening I took our house cat out with me while I was outside.  I looked away for a minute and in the blink of an eye, the male rabbit was...um...having nonconsensual relations with my poor, terrified female cat.  I could not believe my eyes. Needless to say, my cat stayed in the house after that.  


 


Are you saying you moved to help a friend....sm
and are miserable because of the uncontrolled kids and revolving doors of people coming/going all day? Then get another place to move out and get some peace & quiet.
We just moved into a new house
and the last owners left some of the nails in the wall where they had things hanging and I guess thinking we might want to hang something there as well.

Well, we had this little sign my mom had give me with 2 turtles on it with some saying on it, about family or something. Every time I turned around, my hubby had that thing hanging somewhere. I would take it down and put it away and the next day it would be hanging somewhere else.

I told him to leave the decorating to me, haha! ;)

We just reached our 7th year being married. I hope that in 21 years we have that same relationship. So far, so good.

Cute story, thanks for sharing. :)
I just moved from Atlanta and believe me when I say
most of the people there could care less about your lineage, would just be another good fight for them. Just spoke with my daughter and she told me a coworker of hers yelled at a person going through neighborhood driving too fast and the person got out and came back after her. Scared the girl to death and my daugher said she would not do that again. I have moved recently to a wonderful quiet place but still return to Atlanta to get my housekeeper. Making the news yesterday was young male, got upset with neighbor, got a gun and sprayed the neighbors home hitting a 2-year-old child inside his home, killing it in the mothers arms. Read about the killings here, for nothing. It the part about backbone for me, my kids would find that funny as when they were growing up they used such words about me like aggressive, outspoken, etc - but people say with age comes more wisdom.
When I first moved to the south, I once saw this guy sm
mowing a lawn (up a steep hill) with short shorts, cowboy hat and cowboy boots. Obviously, the boots were slippery so he kept slipping and trying to dig his heels in the grass. I almost crashed from laughing so hard.
When we moved to Kentucky from NY...sm

14 years ago I was filling out that pile of paperwork for my sons and came across the document about paddling....I was appalled.....How archaic!  My mother has taught in NY for 42 years and I assure you it's not an acceptable practice!  I just wrote "What, are you kidding me?" and got called into the principal's office to explain myself.


Also, when asked about race I checked OTHER and wrote HUMAN....Got called in again to the principal's office.    Cat 


Discussion has been moved..thx (nm)
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Moved from the burgh...
But still a Steelers fan! I'll be waving my Terrible Towel Sunday night, that's for sure!!!!!
We did not have that issue when we moved here -sm
back in 1998. There were two agents, our agent represented us and only us. Sale went smoothly and quickly. We even rented our old house for a month after we sold it to make our move smoother. We had a few things we wanted done to the new house before we moved into it. It all went quite smoothly with no problems. I have two friends here too that are real estate agents, never discussed that with them, but curious now and will. One helped us buy some land a few years ago, again no problems with representation, 2 agents, she took care of us and we had a huge issue of an oil/mineral rights lease to get invalidated which took some time to get taken care of...our neighbors love us as we got it removed for the whole subdivision, not just our lot. We were not about to buy property with that hanging over our head, whether the others knew or not who knows, but our real estate agent and lawyer made sure we knew what we were getting into.
I moved from CA to WA and I felt very...
welcome. Maybe it is more perception than anything, but I miss my Washington neighbors very much since I left. They were great people.
They moved your thread and not my answer
I think it is Vanessa Carlton. Can't remember the name of the song now.
I am like yu, but my family moved every 3 years.
It was tough as a kid to grow up like that, but due to exentuating circumstances, I have moved my kids a lot, too. It stinks!
We recently moved 200 miles away and
joined a church after being away from the church for several years. There are so many activities for couples and singles, or both, and not just church/religion related. We have dinners, baseball games, hayrides, dances, etc. and have made several friends in the few months we have been here. We get out more now than ever before. I don't know how old you are, and though I hate to admit it, we joined the seniors center also (you only have to be 50). They do all sorts of things - day trips, 1 and 2 week trips, dinners, plays, game nights, music... I just never thought I would be joining an old folks place, but it's fun and a lot of them are in the 50-60 range. Lots of singles and couples.
I moved out two days after I graduated from h.s.
I tried for years to have at least a civil relationship with my mother, but it never happened, so I gave up a long time ago. I see her when it's unavoidable -- weddings, funerals and the sort. She still thinks my brother walks on water, and interestingly, he doesn't come around to help her either.
I just saw it on the main board. Maybe it was moved.
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Book-in-bag still hasn't moved.

Except now it has a drillbit sitting on top of it for some reason.... 



Moved to the Comedy board. NM
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when I first moved to KY I called it a PIRATE tax..nm
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We just moved out of modular and built (sm)

We lived in a modular, what some would call a 'double-wide', for about 8 years, and while it was by no means what one would call a trailer, neither was it as sound as a site built house.  It was a great starter home, but there were a couple of things about it that anyone looking to buy a modular should be aware of.  The first thing is that resale on modulars/manufactured homes is not as brisk (at least in my part of the country) as a regular, site-built home.  We ended up selling ours via land contract.  The second thing to be aware of is that these homes off-gas.  If you move into a new house, there is going to be a smell associated with that new construction but in a manufactured home, because of the way they are built, on an assembly line, some things are done differently than in a traditional house.  There is a lot of formaldehyde used in the construction of these homes. 


Heating and ventilation are other things to be concerned about, as well as insulation, and what type of foundation to put underneath the home.  My suggestion is that if you go with a modular/manufactured home, go with a full slab. 


As far as settling goes, any house is going to settle.  If the home is set up properly the settling will be held to a minimum, but if it isn't done well, the settling will be more obvious.  I would check with the BBB where you are looking to buy and see if there are any complaints on file with them re: the company/ies you are looking at. 


Another thing to consider:  Where are you putting this home? Many subdivisions have regulations against modular homes of any type, including the one we moved into.  These people (small subdivision) freaked out completely when they found out we were building a house in THEIR subd. and that we lived in a modular at the time.  I guess they thought the trailer trash was coming to town...let's just not go there. 


We were able to go through a service where we hired a consultant who is a licensed builder to guide us through the process, and we actually did the general contracting ourselves.  We managed to save a significant amount of money in the process, and while there were very stressful times we managed it well and are extremely pleased with the results.  While we are not what could be considered tree huggers, we did want to build a house that was more environmentally friendly and energy efficient.  There are several ways to do that, and it really is so much simpler than you may think.  We just moved in about a month ago, and we do still have quite a bit to do, trim, paint, landscaping (we have a beyoootiful mud pit right now), but it is so very much worth it.


In any event, good luck with whatever you decide to do, and if you have any questions, please feel free to ask. 


HC


It got moved to Main Board I think. NM
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We were hoping she would've moved them by now
Because I was in and out of the car last night counting little furry heads but I guess it didn't bother her.  Guess I'll go find a box.  Thanks!
This thread was moved to Gab from another board.

Just moved to South Mississippi and...
food here is very expensive. I have always lived on the west coast and, although everything else here is cheaper, food is NOT.
My town has 25,000 people but when I first moved
here 23 years ago, it only had 5,000. We had a Tastee Freeze and a Chicken Country and that was it. Our town has gotten to big for our liking but the school system is excellent so I suppose we'll just bear with it for a while.
Thank you - your post moved me to tears - sm
Your description of walking around with a gaping wound in your chest and no one noticing - You may not believe this, but until I read this I had long since put away feelings I'd forgotten - I HAVE had an experience, and you reminded me. One of my babies died at one day old thirty-two years ago. You described what I remember feeling exactly. How could I have forgotten that? I'm sitting here with tears running down my face.

Your suggestion of a note to the families is a great one. I'm certainly going to do that. God bless you.
I know this will get moved to the Gab board, but for some reason I cannot post there and I SM

I really need some opinions.  So when it get's moved, please follow it over.


My son's school called me this morning to tell me that they have not yet received my son's transcripts from his the private school he attended last year.  The secretary at the new school tells me that she when she faxed her request for the records along with my signed release, the school only sent her my son's shot record and any other medical history they had on him and that was it.  They provided no explanation whatsoever.  When she called the old school, she was told that I have an outstanding tuition balance and they refuse to release his records until the balance is paid.


 


Regardless of whether or not I owe them money, can they legally do this?  I have tried to research this to no avail.  All I have found out is a court case in Louisiana where a judge ruled that a private school can refuse to release a student's records to the student's parents if they have not paid tuition, but that legally the school cannot keep the student's records from the student.  Wouldn't this be what the school is doing?  I am not the one requesting copies of my son's records, it is the public school district in which my son is a student that has requested the records.  I simply signed the release forms and gave them my son's proper identifying information, i.e. social security # and birth date so that the school district would be able to obtain his records.


 


I am very angry.  This private school and I have not seen eye to eye for quite some time on a number of different issues.  My son attended there only at the behest of my father-in-law who is a member of the church that owns the school.  My father-in-law offered to pay half the tuition if I let my son go there.  I agreed because it was a small private school and I felt that my son would benefit from the small class sizes and the "Christian" values.  However, over the  four years my son attended that school, I found that these values weren't so "Christian" after all.


 


I had trouble with the school "losing" my tuition payments a few times.  I am not the only parent that had this trouble.  A number of parents received collection calls saying we were behind on our tuition payments and that we needed to pay immediately or our children would not be allowed to attend; only to find that when I presented the school with a copy of my canceled check, the payments were simply not written down in the ledger and were called a "common bookkeeping error."  This happened on more than one occasion and I have contacted my former bank in search of the tuition payment they claim is missing now that has caused them to withhold my son's records.  There were also rumors of embezzelment within the church that owns the school.  Apparently the Pastor embesseled some money from the church to invest in real estate "for the church" and when the IRS starting sniffing around, there was a fall guy that the church refused to press charges on, and a number of church board members were given high paying, useless jobs at the school as a "thank you for keeping your mouths closed."  There are four principles and two superintendents at the school.  This is a school that has maybe 100 students total counting all students, K through 12th grade.  Why on earth do they need that many principles and superintendents?


 


So you see, there are some shady things going on in that school and I have to wonder if this isn't just another ploy to extort more money from me.  Which brings me back to my initial question, can they legally do this?  Even if I truly did owe them money, can they withhold my son's records from a public school district who requires those records in order to make sure my son is placed in the appropriate classes?  Should I contact a lawyer?


 


I am sooooooo mad right now, I can't even see straight! 


I am so moved by your generosity and love for others. God bless you. nm
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I have moved on and was just trying to make SoBlue feel better.
I have moved on and gotten on with my life. My ex now lives 2 minutes from me and I could care less. The kid who robbed me is now 19 and in jail for robbing a bank and I don't have to worry about him either. These things were in my past and I have learned and become a stronger person from them.
I've moved approximately 28 times...
the shortest I lived in one place was 19 days - the longest 9 1/2 years (so far). Hated it. Went to 9 different schools and hated that, too. I said I would never do that to my children and, although we had to move several times, they were only in 2 different school districts. You sure do learn to adapt, though!
A big sign at a local business that had moved said

Come see us at ARE new location - on both sides of the sign!