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We live in Michigan and we keep our heat set at 68. sm

Posted By: MT and worn out on 2008-12-20
In Reply to: Survey: Where do you set your thermostat? Here is why I ask... - Freezing in Wyoming

I live in Michigan and it gets COLD!!!. Not as cold as Wyoming, but I swear, sometimes....lol.

The only time the heat gets turned up any higher than 70 is on bath night. Then we also have a little propane heater we got from our local surplus store that helps in the bathroom.

In my office upstairs, I have an old heat lamp from our turtle tank that has a clamp type base and I have that clamped to the shelf over my keyboard. I have it aimed so it hits my hands and helps keep them warm. I figure if it works for our turtle, it will work for me. LOL.

We dress in layers too, even the 12 yo son. DH has some problems as he is diabetic, but Eddie Bauer Ragg wool socks are worth every penny you pay for them.

We do the plastic on the windows and we also spent some big bucks on plexi-glass and got two 45 x 64 pieces for our DR and KIT. We hold them in with double faced tape and then seal them with the same kind of tape they use on ductwork for trailers and RV's.

I agree with other posters too, get your thyroid checked. My doc told me that was one of the reasons for people being cold all the time.

Good luck.


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I'm from Michigan and s/m

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This also includes cat food, cat liter and dog food (little dog), cleaning supplies.


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In Michigan we have . . .
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Depending on your income, try your local Legal Aid society. They are lawyers who help based on your income. Sliding scale at its best.

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Dog in heat!

Now that I have your attention...


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AND DON'T USE HEAT!!!
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C'mon, go to the ER. A nasty case of perotinitis will keep you under the weather and out of work and be far more costly in the long-run than just going to the ER now.

I'm worried about you, and I'm sure many others of us are as well. PLEASE GO TO THE ER FOR THIS AND DO NOT PUT IT OFF.
Only 10 here in west Michigan.
Windchill is -15 though. And snowing to beat the band to boot.
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heat stroke
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Heat stroke occurs when a pet has an extremely high body temperature, usually more than 41 degrees C (106 degrees F). Signs include rapid panting, warm dry skin, bright red gums, vomiting, and an anxious expression or staring appearance. Collapse, coma and death follow shortly thereafter. An animal with heat stroke must have its body temperature reduced quickly. Most effective is immediate immersion in a cold water. If unavailable, hosing it down with a garden hose may be effective. Ice packs should not be used because overcooling often occurs. The skin should be massaged gently, and the legs flexed frequently to encourage blood circulation. While this is being done, it is essential that the pet be transported to a veterinary hospital as quickly as possible.
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The heat of anger...
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south. you brought up the other things I was thinking when I posted about Vernors. Saunders hot fudge, Faygo, Stroh's ice cream (use to have a Stroh's ice cream shop by the house back in the 70s when in high school) and those wonderful Better Made potato chips!!!!!!!! Hubby was just in Michigan two weeks ago and brought back a bag. Nothing like em!!!!!!

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Southwest Michigan, not much shake, but noticeable.
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Southeast Michigan (Ann Arbor Area)
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A vet could determine if poisoned or heat stroke.
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45 here; heat on or windows open today? (nm)

I have a Eureka Atlantis Opt-Heat and love it...sm
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To Backward Typist regarding Heat Surge
You wanted me to post when I got my first electric bill after having the heater. It was used for the full month of the billing cycle and my bill went down $10. I run it from around midnight until 8 or 9 am, sometimes I will run it more if I'm to lazy to start a fire and its not that cold outside.
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They like heat. Will tend to find warm place to
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so, you think we should reward them by paying for their bed, heat, water, food?
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Heat Surge electric fire place

I posted a few weeks ago about an article I saw for a Heat Surge electric fireplace with a wooden mantle built by the Amish.


Well I received it about 1.5 wks ago and I must say that it is absolutely beautiful!  It is virtually noiseless, I seriously cannot hear it running at all.  The brightness of the flame is adjustable and it has a low and a high heat setting.  Best of all, it works!  It does exactly what I had planned on and keeps the back of my house at a reasonable tempurature during the night so I do not have to worry about keeping the wood stove in the front going full blast all night.


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Today in Michigan it's a balmy 6 degrees with -18 wind chill
With those kind of temperatures, today thermostat is on 70 and that's comfortable.  But I have on sweat pants, a sweatshirt, and warm wooly socks.  Usually it's at 68 and 62 at night.
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Calling all you animal lovers - live and let live or intervene? - sm

I have a dilemma.  I am an animal lover and have something I cannot come to a conclusion about.  At a restaurant where I eat lunch every Friday with a friend of mine, I have noticed a young male kitty hanging around outside looking for food.  This past week he ran up to my friend and rubbed her legs and quietly meowed.  I purposely did not try to pet him because I knew I would get attached and ignored him.  Well, ever since then I find myself thinking about him and wanting to rescue him.  Meanwhile, I already have 4 inside cats (2 rescues, 2 Maine Coons) and hubby really does not want another cat in the house because a few years ago I promised we would  never have more than 4 (had up to 5 at one point previously).  I actually have a huge screened deck he could stay on indefinitely because I do not believe in letting cats run loose for their own safety.  I could provide plenty of food, a warm place to sleep, and veterinary care.  At some point I would even probably work him into our household, but I just cannot do it at the moment.  Just not sure I would be doing right by that kitty because I am sure he would be upset and confused for a good while as to where he was and what was going on, but is that better than being hungry and cold?  I know there are lots of animal lovers out there.  What does everyone think??