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WHAT? Children who kill animals grow up

Posted By: gd1 on 2007-07-19
In Reply to: R U serious? - eyetypeOU

to kill people, they are sociopoaths and have no conscious. I would lock them away for life.


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humans who abuse/kill children and animals
should be eliminated....quietly, and under cover. 
Same here, only animals and special needs orphan children.
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why does He allow abuse of helpless children/animals?
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RE: Me too - buy a ranch, take in stray animals and help orphaned children :-)
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Abusive to women, animals - thank goodness there are no children involved. (sm)
get her out of that situation before any more harm comes about.

Youngest daughter once dated a guy and we discovered she was afraid to not be ready on time, to wear something he didn't like, etc. Soon we found out there were bruises on her upper arms and near her breasts. Needless to say, we marched her to the courthouse, got an ex parte. He broke into our house after that when he thought she was home alone, we pressed charges and had that young man paying court costs for quite some time in addition to going to anger management classes.

We were lucky, we got her out before it was too late. He had her emotionally beat down to the point she couldn't stand up on her own. Heaven help those without a support system.
grow up

Yes, did grow up in NYC but
from the way she spoke, you would have thought she was born and raised here.
Oh, grow UP, Jan! sm

They grow up ................sm
when we are not looking, whether we like it or not. While I don't think 10-yo boys should be coddled to the point of being sissies, I do still believe they are still children and need to be guided in an age-appropriate way. The ripe old age of 10 is a difficult time for most kids. They realize they have added a digit to their age and they are entering an emotionally scary and hormonally charged time in their lives when everything they knew is changing....their bodies, their relationships, their whole world. Our jobs as parents are to guide them, not drag them kicking and screaming, along the path that will eventually lead to adulthood. If we do our jobs properly, then we will have young men and women of honor who will someday do the same for their children, but if we screw it up, heaven help the next generation.
I think you both need to grow up! sm
With all the horrible things going on in the world, this kind of stuff sounds absolutely petty to me for two grown adults to end a relationship over. You both sound like spoiled brats to me.
Let them grow up
even if they rant and rave. What would they do if you were dead? That's what I used to tell my 3 grown children and my daughter has worked 2 jobs to raise her son single-handed. Our children would NEVER move back in with us for any reason. You have to cut the strings. Sometimes it hurts but everyone is better off in the long run.
Maybe if you wanted it to grow sm
I'll fight Hayseed over it any day. LOL.
I never ever wanna grow up
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ASPIRIN will kill a dog
Please tell her to stop! She must be able to find a vet somewhere that will treat the dog and let her make payments!

And yes dogs most certainly have seizures.
ASPIRIN DOES NOT KILL A DOG

Worked for a vet, have a 16 year old dog on two aspirin a day.  Works better than the expensive NSAID's.  My dog had seizures also.  Don't know why this has become so much more prominent lately but has.   My dog is part chow/lab mix.  She began with the seizures after being on prednisone -- I say that had something to do with it -- they do not.  Very bad seizures.  Age 6.   Had her on medication - not phenobarb but something else that a dog neurologist said to put her on.  She took it for almost a year - no seizures, slowly tapered her off of it and she did  have little ones now and then -- 2 to 3 a year but over the past 7 years has not had one to my knowledge.  She is 16 and quite healthy, except for being quite deaf, hip dysplasiad and arthritis and takes aspirin for it.  I am sure her end is near but we still walk a mile a day and she chases her friend our cat every now and then.  But her birthday is Valentine's Day -- was actually born on that day and she will be 16.   Go on line and read about seizures.  A neighbor has a chow that just had hsi first one -- age 4 to 5 also.  So it is more common than one would expect.   Good luck.  Actually the visit to the dog neurologist was cheaper than my regular vet and he spent a lot of time with us.  So it was well worth the money.   Patti


 


I would kill for a housekeeper...

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Why oh why didn't they kill Ben
as soon as they saw him? They know that letting him talk ALWAYS ends badly. Killing him before he could set up another controlling scenario would have saved them a lot of grief.

How great that Ben's people have figured out Ben isn't such an infallible leader after all. I was really hoping the 3 were still alive when I heard the shots, even though I'd heard that a bunch of people were going to die. I was very proud of Hurley and Charlie. DH and I were joking that Charlie would write something about that parachute woman being BAD. Can't remember her name though.

Whose funeral do you think Jack went to? Didn't Kate look great with makeup?

It was a great show.
To Kill A Mockingbird - nm
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Yep, been there too. They don't work. They could kill you before someone sm
got there to help you. Over the years, I did get my education and now am basically the bread winner. Got my "own" house so I didn't have to leave and haul the kids anymore, but now i can't get him to leave! I have nowhere to go that he wouldn't know where i was nor the money to go on.
Actually these beagles won't kill the ...sm
rabbit or do anything to it. They will only trail it and let you know where it is and if you want to kill the rabbits you can do it but the dogs won't touch it. BUT my husband just does it for sport. He doesn't kill the rabbits either. He just gets a kick out of watching the dogs get all worked up trailing the rabbit and if you have never heard a beagle on a rabbit trail. They howl and sing like you would not believe. But I am happy to say the beagles won't kill. I told my husband do not kill any rabbits and bring them here. And he doesn't. It is just a hobby. No killing or mauling takes place. We are animal friendly. :)
If he is threatening to kill himself and
someone else, in our state anyway, they can take him and have him committed, ESPECIALLY since he told you he would use a gun to do it. That is called suicidal and homicidal ideation.
yes, they are a no-kill shelter - at least they said so! nm
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Children having children not a new thing, where do you live?
My son, who is now in his early 40s, told me years ago when in high school about all the teenage mothers that were at his school and said they brought the babies to school, and he seemed to think it was like the girls having playdolls like when you were little. This is not new and apparently folks think alright to have their children sans marriage, be it preteens, teens or adults. I guess my years alone do not make me shocked at anything anymore. Others talk about this job being isolated and your post says some of this if you were shocked at what the son said.
Did you grow up in 1 town or move...sm

and if you moved, how often and are you glad you moved?  As for me, we moved every other year due to my father's occupation.  There were 2 places I was very glad that we moved from and 2 places I would have loved to have stayed, the others were OK.   When people ask me where I was raised I tell them "everywhere" because that best summarizes it. 


What about you?    Do you have a home town?


:) I feel that way, too. Cranberries don't grow down here!
To me, true dressing has only cornbread in it, too. No white bread. :)
so then the kids you had didn't grow up
in you care...they went back to who? Family? Wow, the odds of every single child you cared for going back to their parents/family is well, just remarkable or what a coincidence for the sake of these posts. NONE of them were split up? You never claimed to be an angel, but you must be one heck of a FC parent to have lucked out like that considering the politics and social issues involved. I never said having siblings in short-term FC is unacceptable, just harder to come by anymore than it used to be...and the states now have federal laws to follow that were not in place 10 years ago.

I will restate that sending siblings to a GROUP HOME (read: Not a FC setting) is less desirable than several relatives maintaining close contact in short-term situations.

Yea, Budda likes it when I write about something I'm passionate about.
I know, but backbones don't grow overnight.
I also realize that I 'lived' before my kids came into this word.

And I know I made bad decisions that turned me into a single mom.

I'm not saying I hate my life. I'm just tired. I probably wouldn't know how to live at this point anyhow.

You are 100% right and I'm not making excuses, but it didn't get like this overnight and it won't change overnight.
I say, 'Let it grow!' And under no circumstances -
should you (or anyone else) grow old 'gracefully'. Fight it every inch of the way. If the 'cats' are making remarks about your hair, it's probably because they're jealous.

I'm 58, and like yours, mine is still mostly light brown, and I occasionally highlight it, too, but only when I feel like it. I had it cut shoulder-length a few years ago and hated it -- they ironed it straight and turned in under, and made me look like every soccer mom in my neighborhood, which I am totally NOT. Some people make good short-hair people, and some people don't. And I'm one of 'em.

I have a friend a little younger than me, and her hair is waist-length, VERY thick and beautiful, and salt-and-pepper, with a lot more salt than pepper. I've gone back to growing mine out, and now have a long ponytail. It should hit waist-length in the next year or so, and that's right where I want it. I'll probably still have a long ponytail when I'm 80, too. And if I don't like the gray hairs, then maybe I'll dye them purple.

So let the catty neighbors all walk around looking like dowdy old clones, and in the meantime you'll be happy being your normal, beautiful-haired self.
I know I will miss them terribly when they grow up - but sm
somehow I don't think that's the part I'll miss ;-)

I think I'll miss them needing me to help with things, miss tucking them in at night, watching them learn. I don't think I'll miss having to fuss at them - but you never know...lol
Do boys go through hormonal changes as they grow up? sm
I have two boys, one is 6 and the other will be 10 in a few weeks.  my almost 10 y/o has been such a good kid through his life.  BUT i notice sometimes when he stays with my inlaws, especially my 11 y/o nephew, he comes back home with an attitude.  my two boys usually get a long really well.  but my 10 y/o spent three nights with my inlaws (two included my nephew) and he has been so cranky with me and his little brother.  i didn't know of boys have hormonal changes like girls do. 
She won't grow to fit her tank, she will just keep growing....
But eventually she has to stop growing some time. I really think she has probably grown as much as she is going to. If she has to go to a bigger tank yet, we may have to see if our local zoo will take her. The tanks are the biggest outlay. I get all her rocks free from our local monument maker and a quarry. I buy a bottle of the stuff to kill the chlorine and use our city water.

Cleaning her tank is not too bad as we have a gravel vacuum. We don't fill the tank all the way up, only about 2/3 full. They need at least the width of their shell for the depth of the water in case they flip over on their back. Otherwise they can't flip themselves over. We do a partial tank change. Just enough to suck up the "poop" and food scraps. Then we replace it.

Other than her lights burning out once in a while, she is pretty low mainatenance. And fun to watch. Especially when she chases the goldfish. LOL
Tomatoes are not hard to grow........sm
You can start the plants inside and plant them in large containers on the patio or porch if that is the only space you have. Nothing much better than a big, fresh, juicy ripe garden tomato!!
It would grow old real fast for me - sm
so I can understand you being annoyed, and no it is not heartless. Is he short on cash? Can he afford to feed himself? Obviously is money is an issue then it is a different story. Were you very close before the divorce or is this new behavior? I presume the GF does not want him there for dinner presuming it is a loneliness issue for him. But as you said he is probably keeping an eye on your mom since he asks about her every day, I would presume the divorce was her idea? Or is he having buyers remorse? I would set some ground rules for dad and tell him as much as you enjoy seeing him, etc, that you need some nights to yourself, and to limit it to maybe 3 days a week, MWF or something like that. So he still gets to see you (and stalk your mom) but not monopolize every evening. Or else starting making things you know your dad dislikes!
Hold on, can you or can you not kill a spider?
I just killed 1 the other night and I do not know if I was supposed to do something else to go along with that or do I have a jinx from now on?
Most women who kill their husbands SM
get life in prison without parole, whether they deserve it or not.

I usually take the woman's side in this, since I too was an abused wife, but her getting a lenient sentence due to her husband supposedly making her dress up in sexy outfits?

Outcome is debatable. I do always think if all abused wives murdered their husbands and I imagine many deserve it, the streets would be littered with dead husbands.

PS
After my divorce found wonderful man that I thank God for every day.
Ah, those marshmallow meatballs will kill ya
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...kill anyone, especially in just a few hours. Might be uncomfortable,
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How horrible. The cowards always kill themselves
It infuriates me.  Why don't these people just jump off a bridge instead of killing innocent people?  He didn't even have the guts to face the consequences of his actions.  So cowardly.  I will be praying for the victims and their friends and family.  I would bet money that the NRA will be having one of their rallies in Omaha in no time - they're always so sensitive about these things   I can't believe the murder rate in this country.  It's sickening.
Now being a transcriptionist, we cannot kill our hands but
what works really well are switches. The kids are not abused, beaten, bruised but they sure do not like those. My ex told me you can make a mule mind with switches. I am amused when I read about the wonders of motherhood and then on here mothers posting about their troubles. To me it seems simple- to others it seems barbaric. I think you do not have to beat a child but you cannot let 1 get and keep the upper hand. This is what is happening now.
or - "The fall alone will probably kill ya!"
Is this Boliva??
People always trying to kill WalMart because they
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the "I'll kill myself" speech
Hello again! My dad did this too. Tried to run my mom off the road with his car by swerving in front of her car, threw all the christmas presents on the front lawn and cried like a baby!

I can get out my crystal ball for you....he will go back to his girlfriend. He obviously just prefers the food at your house. Hang in there!
how to kill a husband crush
If I were you I would seduce him basically as many days in a row until it took to put him in a coma and you may have to buy some perfume or outfits to accomplish this. Then I would fire the hair stylist, find a barber, feed him a lot of food, again until he was in some kind of a coma, then let the whole thing go.


Didn't she grow up in New York City?
What does she know about the South?
Oh my. You sound so young. You'll grow up one day. nm
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Do they ever grow out of this?? My once precious and sweet 3 year old son has sm

turned into a holy terror.  Wow.  For the past 2 weeks he has been completely nonsensical and out of control. Any little thing throws him off and he begins destroying the house, kicking, yelling, screaming, etc. This morning I woke up to him crying on the couch without any clothes on, so I told him to go put something on (it's freezing in here!), to which he told me NO! Of course he received a spanking for that (what a way to wake up, huh?).  Well, he's been pitching a fit for almost 2 hours now since I refused to cook him pancakes. I told him if he would behave I would make them.  Well, he doesn't want to do anything but scream and throw fits, so I won't make them.  He has said the word pancake at least 200 times since early this morning. I cannot reward bad behavior, so now I'm just ignoring him which is what my pediatrician told me to do the other day.  If I deal with him, I may regret it later.  Yes, can you tell I am completely frustruated? 


I know they say different things work for different children, but NOTHING works with him. I never, ever spanked before.  But the chair became a joke as he would just jump right back down out of his chair and run out the room screaming. He refused to sit down.  So then I had to begin spanking him and of course that just makes him angrier, meaner, and he won't listen to a word I say.  As soon as I begin talking to him and explaining what I am doing he screams to "override" my voice. 


I cried all day Sat. because my husband took my older soon to a ball game and my 3 year old was really bad that morning. I just wanted a little peace, but he refused.  So we battled all morning until lunch.  It has been every single day like this. Yesterday was bad, but not too bad. Today is really bad, but not as bad as Saturday.  I wonder what is going on?  He is so unreasonable.  The thing is, my husband says, "he's 3. How can you not handle a 3 year old?"  Like just now, as I'm typing this, he just said to me, "mommy's STUPID!!" I haven't heard that one all morning, so let me go take care of it. Please say a prayer for me...and him too.


every time you stretch, you grow an inch. NM
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Lice can't be smothered! You have to kill them. Get the Rid or the Nix or whatever. Any critters
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no problem-prison inmates will kill him....
       
Also try local no-kill animal shelter

My sister's first dog was an AKC standard American Eskimo she got from a no-kill shelter.  He was supposed to be a show dog, but wasn't *perfect*, so his original owner considered him a worthless mouth to feed and left him at the shelter.  For my sister's family, he was a beautiful and loving pet for many years.  You will pay for the necessary shots and probably to have your pet *fixed* as well as perhaps a bit of a mark-up to support the shelter, but you will have a healthy pet, and you will get the one you see.


My sister's current dog is an AKC Pomeranian she got from a Pomeranian rescue organization.  Again, she got a beautiful and loving dog.  His original owner had decided that he was just too much trouble.  If I remember correctly, the rescue service had pictures of available pets on their Internet website.  Again, there was a good-sized fee to cover having him checked out by a vet and *fixed* with again probably a bit of a mark-up to support the organization.  She had to drive a ways downstate to get him - they would not just ship him.


My sister considered the fees reasonable.  As she says, it's a reminder that this is a living creature whose life has value, not a toy to be played with for awhile and then discarded.  I hope you will be as fortunate as my sister has been in whatever way you find your pet.


things that kill birds and their care

You have to be careful what is in the candles. I don't burn them with birds around.  Self-cleaning ovens will also immediately kill birds, as will a Teflon-coated pan that overheats.  Also be careful with home permanent solutions, room deodorizers, and DO NOT USE FEBREZE (yes, I am shouting because so many people use this and it is a KILLER for birds).  Just be careful with any of these types of things.  Birds are ultra sensative to inhalants.  Better not to use them at all. 


Regarding the eggs, if you remove them she will just lay more before she's had a proper rest and that will deplete her of calcium. While she's sitting on her eggs, her body is rebuiding for the next clutch.  Try to find things that resemble the eggs in size and color, like marbles, beads, etc.  Put them in place of the eggs.  Don't let her see you doing this.  Warm them in your hands first (NOT HOT) and sneak them in one at a time when she's not looking.  She should sit on them and you can pitch the eggs.  But let her sit until SHE abandons them so that she maintains proper calcium.


Also, if the eggs aren't fertile, there is no problem in letting her sit on them.  Take them out and hold them up to a light, like a light bulb or a flashlight, and look into the egg.  If you see red lines or a solid dark mass, you've got babies.  If you see just space and yolk, you've got a dud.  She can sit on duds and get her rest and you won't have to worry about babies.  Not all eggs are duds, though.  You have to look at each one.  Date them lightly in PENCIL and then you can tell when you last looked and keep checking until you're sure they are duds. 


Keep plenty of cuttlebone around for her calcium and sprinkle baby bird handfeeding formula on her food to give her extra supplements for the egg laying whether duds or not.  It's good for her.  Even if you don't want babies, her body needs to be replenished with this stuff to keep her healthy. This is a good treat anytime for a bird. 


I'm sorry to hear about your experience with babies before.  Many times the youngest die in the next because the larger ones get on top of them and they don't get the food. Finches are tricky.  I'm crazy about them but they do need careful watching.  Parrots are SO much easier to raise!!!  Guess you don't want to suggest that to your kids, though LOL!!! 


Feel free to e-mail if you have questions!