Tobacco and alcohol should be illegal.
Posted By: Tired of paying for those on 2009-03-02
In Reply to: what about alcohol? that's legal - n/m
who make poor decisions.
The 2 drugs that cause more death and damage are legal but shouldn't be.
I have a right NOT to pay for others' poor decision-making and to not worry about the impact hurled onto society from their actions.
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Use of illegal drugs, alcohol consumption, and cigarette
smoking are just as prevalent today as they were 20+ years ago. Perfect example: Look at the DARE program, that was introducted in grade school amost 20 years ago. There are no hard statistical facts that there are less drug abusers today than there were 20 years ago, so that 'program' was a complete failure and a waste of tons of money. These types of behaviors will go on until the end of time. No amount of education or imprisonment is every going to stop people from engaging in these types of behaviors.
tobacco bug
You are re-wiring your brain to learn to do things without a cigarette. Unless you are a very busy person and can be sick the first time without a cigarette, go to a funeral the first time without a cigarette, and go on a cross country road trip without a cigarette the first time, I am thinking about five years to feel "normal" all the time.
The half life of nicotine will take about 45 days or so to completely flush out.
Take up hiking. This really will make you feel better than anything else, but fruit can help if you can't get off of the couch.
I have never stopped dreaming about smoking, and it has been 10 years.
Just remember you can still "want one" and not "have one", one minute at a time.
Get out your calculator and figure out how many cigarettes you would have smoked in 108 hours. That is how many cigarettes you have NOT smoked, then add up how much money you have not spent on cigarettes.
I smoked 45 cigarettes a day. I have not smoked in 10 years. That is 164,250 cigarettes I have NOT smoked and around $50,000 I have not given to phillip morris to keep me addicted to cigarettes.
Good Luck!
smokeless tobacco
I have been through this with my 20 yo son also. It's a little worse for me because my ex-husband still chews tobacco, so he has set the example for my son. It does give them a "buzz" and that is why they do it.
My son is an athlete so I was really surprised he decided to start this. I asked various people to talk to him (coaches, physician, etc.) and also showed him pictures online of what people look like who have had mouth cancer. He stopped for awhile, then started again, and now he has stopped thank goodness. I think what scared him the most was the picture of a man who had the cancer. It was really sad. Maybe you could print off some pictures of what he could look like if he keeps on chewing and gets cancer. Kids never seem to think they are invincible. Good luck, I hope you get through to him.
My DH has used smokeless tobacco...
for about 4 years. He's finally in the process of quitting and is doing really great. He's using one of the OTC nicotine gums and is only chewing 1-2 pieces a day and supplementing it with just sugar-free gum. We got a great article in the mail from Tricare (he's in the Navy) and it really scared him into finally quitting. I can't seem to find the article, but found this one below that has a lot of great information.
From www.medicalnewstoday.com:
Tobacco: Smokeless Does Not Equal Harmless
Main Category: Smoking / Quit Smoking News
Article Date: 30 Aug 2006 - 0:00am (PST
You don't smoke it. You don't sniff it. You don't even have to swallow it, but its effects can harm your body nevertheless. It's smokeless tobacco.
The Pennsylvania Dental Association (PDA) would like to remind teens and adults of the serious and often-underestimated risks associated with smokeless tobacco.
"Young adults and adolescents are the ones most likely to erroneously believe that smokeless tobacco is less dangerous," said Dr. David Tecosky, a PDA member dentist from Philadelphia. "Basically due to their lack of education on the topic."
Smokeless tobacco, also known as chew or dip, is produced in the forms of chewing tobacco and snuff. Snuff is a fine-grain tobacco held in teabag-like pouches that users "pinch" or "dip" between their lower lip and gum. Chewing tobacco comes in shredded, twisted or "bricked" tobacco leaves. Bricked leaves are pressed into small, soft blocks flavored with licorice and sugar.
A user sucks on the tobacco juices, often spitting from saliva buildup. By sucking and chewing, nicotine becomes absorbed into the bloodstream through the tissues in one's mouth.
Smokeless tobacco leads to dependence similar to the way cigarettes will get you hooked, by continued intake of the addictive drug nicotine. However, surprisingly, the amount of nicotine absorbed from smokeless tobacco is three to four times higher than the amount delivered by a cigarette. Once a person becomes addicted, quitting becomes very difficult. Just as with smoking, withdrawal from chewing tobacco causes symptoms such as depressed and irritable moods, increased appetite and intense cravings.
Less severe, more immediate effects of this habit can be bad breath, yellowish-brown stains on your teeth and mouth sores. However over time, side effects can include cracked, bleeding and receding gums, and eroded tooth enamel due to the coarse particles in tobacco also making your teeth more vulnerable to cavities. Since chewing tobacco contains high amounts of sugar, prolonged use can cause tooth decay and loss.
Additionally, 28 carcinogens have been identified in chewing tobacco and snuff. Users are two to six times more likely to develop oral cancer than non-users. Furthermore, smokeless tobacco consumers actually have a higher risk of developing oral cancer than cigarette smokers.
"Tobacco smoke doesn't linger on soft tissue in the oral cavity whereas smokeless tobacco remains in the mouth in contact with the mucous membranes," said Dr. Tecosky.
Oral cancer can occur in the lips, tongue, floor of the mouth, roof of the mouth, cheeks or gums, leaving permanent disfigurement and physical impairment when amputation is necessary. Cancer from chewing tobacco doesn't just occur in the mouth. Cancer-causing agents in tobacco can enter the lining of the esophagus, stomach and bladder.
If you are already a user there are over-the-counter solutions for quitting. A person can in some measure stave off cravings by using substitutes such as tobacco-free, mint leaf snuff or even something as simple as sugarless gum.
There are prescription drugs that aid in quitting any tobacco products, however these also have the potential to become addictive. These drugs can be given orally, by patch or by spray. They are all prescribed by dentists and physicians.
For more information on other oral health topics, visit PDA's website at http://www.padental.org.
Pennsylvania Dental Association
100% against. Against alcohol, anyway. lol
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alcohol
Alcohol......
I personally don't drink with every meal but I do have wine now and then. A girlfriend of mine and her husband have a glass or two of wine just about every night with dinner and have for years, but I wouldn't say they have a problem.
I suppose you need to ask yourself if you didn't have it, would it stay on your mind until you had it.??
alcohol
I think 1-2 drinks a day is absolutely fine. It is relaxing, and I usually do the same. My mom has done it for years, has a glass of wine at lunch and 1 or 2 in the evening and she is well into her 80s and in perfect health! Enjoy yourself and ignore your roommate.
For those who suggested alcohol..sm
alcohol is a stimulant and will have just the opposite effect. Melatonin helps, but I don't like its after effects, and it does have some. I recently came across a native american remedy called Cloud Walking Tea. It is a tea and it works. I sleep peacefully with no after effects.
Alcohol is NOT a stimulant, but
it is very short-acting for people with a normal liver, so it helps many people fall asleep, but then they wake up again after a few hours.
I said that about the liver because I have read there are some people whose livers don't work right and really can't handle any alcohol. That's kind of scary because people don't find out until their liver is destroyed, apparently.
*Alcohol* is the key word here - sm
and reeking of it is definitely a red flag. How would they get to the lake? By car? Alcohol and cars = trouble. Also, alcohol and water are a bad combination as well. If you're still on the fence about it, you could call the friend's mother and ask if the father is going or not. Chances are she's heard this question before..........
No, I mean no alcohol period. nm
Against lowering and against alcohol
I have a BIL who is an alcoholic. I have seen first hand what it can do to kids and the family as a whole, hate the stuff!!!!!!!!
you don't know that for sure. He says he thinks he's an alcohol.
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Or could he be using alcohol as excuse without
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personality/alcohol
Both, I think. Alcohol makes personality traits creep out from under the woodwork. Surly, sarcastic, belittling, called me four letter words in front of the kids. Yes, I consider the way he talks to you to be abuse, especially if this is how he talks to you most of the time. Of course, everything was my fault. An alcoholic does no wrong. It is never their fault, even when they are down to their last dime with no family left. My children were 14 and 16. However, they did not go with me. He had brainwashed them into thinking that he was the only one who could provide for them, that I could only work for minimus wage and that they would have nothing without him. I stayed in the same town, we had joint custody, he had residential. He has since died and my kids and I are fine.
what about alcohol? that's legal
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Illegal.
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illegal....
If you make it legal then it opens up a whole other can of legal worms. I don't think I want my tax money spent on settling the dispute between hoX and hoY. Even if they are paying taxes by making it a legal transaction, most will be doing it "under the table" (ha ha) and it will only be a burden on society, not a way to make more tax money.
As for paying their medical bills - I'm sure we the taxpayers are already doing that thru Medicaid.
Is she illegal too? sm
I would drop a dime to ICE so fast your head would spin. And why is your dad so much more interested in "helping her" when you are his flesh and blood? Have you talked to him about it? I'd be concerned about ID theft as well if she is using your mailbox too.
illegal
Wish ignorant people like YOU were illegal in this country! Look up the temperment tests & bite statistics... know your facts!
Pot is not illegal everywhere - sm
Woody Haralson was the host of a documentary about marijuana and how it came to be illegal in the US. During Prohibition, one man in D.C. wanted to make it illegal, but there was no data about it. So Congress ordered tests and everything came back finding no evidence of long-term effects so Congress found no reason to make it illegal. The man in D.C. wasn't happy, so he lobbied and was able to get a tax passed on pot.
Pot is not illegal to own wihout the tax stamps, which have never printed or distributed to The People. Pot is not illegal in certain quantities in certain states. Possession of marijuana without the stamps is the real reason it is illegal.
Just the facts, only the facts.
or drugs combined w/alcohol
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OMG!!! Does he supply them with drugs and alcohol
so they will be doing that in the safety of their home as well?
I am floored by that reasoning. Its as if there is no hope of teaching a child to make smart choices so might as well have them do it in front of you. What on earth is that teaching them?? I'm sorry but you do not need to be a parent to see how completely asinine that is.
By the way, you should ask him if his home is "safe" enough to preclude AIDS and other STDs, pregnancy, etc. Maybe he thinks there is some soft of "force field" protecting her there. Egads.
oh yeah, that too...alcohol....*lol*. forgot...sm
And I usually NEVER have air in my brain *ROFL*....thanks for the laugh!! 
Or you can drink alcohol at home : )
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Abstinence of ALL alcohol is the trick !!!
This method will allow you to know what you are doing at ALL times and prevent taking the life of another individual. Easy on your organs, too. Good example for your children . . . and on and on and on
When my now 20 yo DD told me about her drugs and alcohol sm
I asked that she wait until she was out of high school to have sex, because it carries big consequences and she needed to be ready for that. For that she waited for that, but tried marijuana twice and got drunk a couple of times too. I was shocked by my "good girl."
former teenage alcohol user
I don't know if this is too "harsh" for your daughter, but have you thought about showing her the results of drinking and/or driving? I drank A LOT in high school, starting around 15 when my mom got sick and continued daily drinking through graduation and then some. Did my fair share of drinking and driving or riding in cars with drivers who drank, thinking that nothing would ever happen. My sister who was 5 years older than me died from drinking and driving when I was 18, and to "show" me and my teenage cousins the consequences, we went with my uncle to see her car that had not been cleaned after the wreck (nasty, and I still see it to this day which is about 18 years later)...she was in a little 4-door car and fell asleep and drove underneath an 18-wheeler. That sight was burned into my brain and I never forgot what drinking and driving could do, that we weren't invincible.
I did hear of a school that was doing "shock presentations" to students, arranging to have 10 or so students missing from classes for the day, then the other students were told that they were killed in accidents from drinking. While that is a bit extreme, I really think that shock works best on teenagers as I always thought I knew best and that nothing would ever happen.
rubbing alcohol for all things
I would not call the school. Let the alcohol soak for awhile and then pick it off. I say amen for art teachers, but just in case, The Children's Place is having a $5.00 t-shirt sale.
I thought this would be illegal too
I'd defnitely report it. I'd be willing to bet somebody else already has. That just sounds totally disgusting to me.
No, not illegal, born here but
from the getto part of town. Don’t assume about things, ok? We are talking about a person who has never held a regular job, has lived off welfare, gotten food stamps and besides that, it is no where close to slave labor. OMG. She has been around so long she does what is the basics and then watches a lot of televison. Slave, she usually calls me and asks if I have anything for her to do.
Maybe he's an illegal, and didn't think he'd win, or they'd -
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This was a tiger in the zoo, not someone's illegal pet - sm
It escaped somehow from its enclosure (they think it scaled the fence somehow as they know it did not go out the cage door). The tiger was shot and killed. It had previously attacked a zoo keeper a year ago (they lived obviously or it would have been killed then probably).
mee too, wish they were illegal in this country
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I'm not sure, but I thought they were illegal
I know policemen use them, but I've never known them to be used by the public, but then again I could be way off base.
Well if you don’t care if illegal or not
then I am sure all the extra people here in the US do not worry you either, right? So much for illegalities.
PLEASE - Just b/c something is illegal does not make it sm
immoral. Those laws (drug use in particular) change according to societies. Throughout history humans have chosen to change their mental status through use of substances, alcohol, chanting, fasting and religion! Pot is no more harmful (and probably less so) than alcohol.
We are wasting so much tax money on imprisoning people for using a weed, in the privacy of their own homes - what a collosal waste of money.
So who gets to decide what is illegal and what is not? You? sm
That's a slippery slope. Like the poster below who wants sugar taxes - actually that's not a bad idea since sugary drinks and snacks are making our kids fat. Let's see - then we should tax fast food or control the amount that fatties can eat, right?
Where does it end?
went to dinner, drank alcohol, went home...
took a Vicodin for pain, fell asleep, got up, stumbled, fell down, unconscious and friend tried administering CPR....to no avail while rescue was on their way
as it turned out, he had stopped taking his BP medications the 2 weeks prior, so that's the reason he died....we do believe......... but the combination of vicodin and drink contributed we also believe....
:(
I should clarify - that would be rubbing alcohol, not liquor! nm
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it was allowed because its passive (unlike alcohol) and
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But chicking and dog fighting is illegal.....
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What part of illegal don't you understand? (sm)
You are talking about ancestors who came thru Ellis Island. They were screened for disease and such. Those healthy enough were let in the country legally. Those not were turned away. They weren't sneaking over the borders.
I don't believe anyone objects to legal immigration. Too bad too many Americans are too dense to distinguish the difference.
illegal. it's disgusting all around on so many levels.
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Illegal and all involved should be prosecuted.
NM
Mormon or other, illegal for old man to marry 14 y.o.
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Maybe she means illegal aliens
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That's such a mean thing to say! What if someone wanted you to be illegal! nm
I do believe it's illegal to feed the deer in PA
because of the harm it causes (see other postings). Your neighbor might get in some serious trouble for doing this. My father and uncles were deer hunters and every year would put salt licks out for them, but about 30 years ago, they stopped. I really don't know the reason, but I would seriously do some checking on this.
You could tell your neighbor that she's making it easier on the hunters as they will start trusting humans and think that they (hunters) are coming to feed them. If that doesn't get her to stop, then show some printed material on the laws. DH isn't hunting this year or I would look it up in the manual he used to get.
Yes, indeed, it is illegal to feed deer in PA.
It's never a good idea to feed them, anywhere. I was just reading an article about this. When deer are fed, they tend to concentrate where the food is being left for them. The local population of deer increases, the food left out for them is not enough to support all of the deer, and so many of them starve. It's actually counter-productive. Deer adapt to the winter weather. They spread out in their environment. Their metabolism slows. They move less and eat less. Some die over the winter, of course. It is nature, after all. But feeding them is not good for them. Your animal loving neighbor is actually hurting the deer.
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