To poster below on insomnia and menopause
Posted By: ER MT on 2007-10-16
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Oprah will be a very informative show today on us women going through menopause. Dr. Christine NOrthrup is the guest and she's wonderful - there'll be lots of good tips for eating right, controlling our hormones, sleeping well, etc. It's all about the mind/body connection which I wholeheartedly believe in too. Catch the show if you can.
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insomnia
Some people are able to sleep well with valerian. On others it seems to have the opposite effect, I have taken it at times and usually it tends to make things worse. Have tried many things for insomnia, presently using neneric Xanax 0.125 or 0.25 if the 0.125 doesn't work. Some times I use Ambien as I do not like the idea of using a habit forming drug like Xanax.
He is tired a lot, but I put that down to the insomnia - sm
He goes to bed at 9 or 10 and wakes up at 2, so living on 4-5 hours of sleep a night would make you a bit tired. No jaundice. He has some body ache from time to time, but figure that is normal aging. He only gets nausous after cooking. He cannot eat right after cooking, his mom is the same way though. He does not have a good appetite though, that has been getting gradually less and less, eats a light lunch and dinner, no snacking thoughout the day, though he has not lost weight, probably because of the beer though. He has had a lot of stomache upset lately, so if I get get him to a GI doc maybe we will discover only gallstones. He has had a couple kidney stones already, though he only mentions them after the fact. I told him he has to keep the stone so we can get it checked/analyzed to see what type of stone it is. He is an ostrich with its head in the sand. I just dread if anything ever serious is diagnosed as he will most likely refuse treatment which I think is insane. I have a very strong will to live and we have 2 kids, so it is hard to understand. AS for the other comment on the will, yes we did that years ago, and we both have life insurance as well so in that respect I'd be okay, but I'd rather have him here, not in the ground.
Any advice for insomnia? sm
Does anyone take any herbs or anything for insomnia? I can't sleep at all and I don't want to take sleeping pills or even see a doctor.
IDEAS FOR INSOMNIA
I have not had a good nites sleep for months....going thru menopause and while I can fall asleep I never sleep more than 2-4 hours at a time...I AM EXHAUSTED! Help....need ideas
Insomnia from night sweats
Well, I have to admit to myself that I am entering menopause. I find myself waking up between 5-10 times per night with night sweats. Throw off covers, lift up T-shirt, try to cool off, drift to sleep, wake up freezing, pull down T-shirt, pull up covers. Ugh.
Any women on here with good herbal remedies for night sweats? Have been doing alot of reading and research and now am totally confused.
My doctor is no help at all. Will not even ask her.
Thank you.
Maine Solution to Insomnia
Shot of Allen's Coffee Flavored Brandy, AKA fat a$$ in a glass.
Insomnia for years - take 5 mg Ambien (sm)
practically every night. I know I shouldn't but if I don't sleep, I get crazy. Have to really talk dr into it every time I go. I'll probably never be able to get off it. There are a lot of people in our family who have it also. I would be really wary about any anti-anxiety meds, though. Friend took them for a long time and has to be on a bunch of different medications just to get off those. It's a vicious cycle. 
I am "juvenile post" poster. "Looney" poster is some
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Insomnia, heart fluttering, tired (sm)
all of that too?
it's the only thing that works for my severe insomnia
i have tried everything else. it's amazing how it is impossible for me to get to sleep. even when i'm exhausted and think i don't need anything, my insomnia is so severe i cannot sleep unaided. i think my "off-switch" is broke. i get so jealous of people who yawn and say they're tired. my friends can call me at 3 in the morning and i'm as bright and cheerful as if it's noon.
I'm not in menopause, but (sm)
I have atypical migraines to where my speech goes wonky, I have paresthesias, my head spins, and I can't walk right. I have problems with them premenstrually as well. The thing that has helped me the most was the overall change in my diet. That might not be much help, but that is my personal experience. Medications didn't do much for me. Once in a while the caffeine makes migraines worse but it usually helps.
I hope you find relief soon.
menopause
All natural here too though I did try the usual OTC herbal remedies which didn't help. I finally went on Prozac just to have some sanity. Perimenopause if I recall lasted roughly 1-1/2 years before the periods stopped altogether.
menopause
It is clear that no one takes hormones for perimenopause symptoms. It seems pretty clear that the upset posters are taking antidepressants for their perimenopause.
So I don't even think this is a debate about natural menopause. I think this has become a debate about antidepressants, which I don't care to have.
The original question was to people who were going through natural menopause.
Menopause
I went through premature menopause (started going through it before age 35, am now 39), and I have not once taken replacement hormones. I've only experienced mild hot flashes and only mild sweating on the back of my neck at night. I'm not sure how long I was in perimenopause, as my diagnosis was made after my periods had completely stopped for 7 months...my first GYN refused to believe it was menopause at such a young age, but my new GYN ran every test imaginable to make sure it wasn't something worse, then did the "big test" and it came back showing I was in full menopause. I starting having "problems" at around age 29 though (irregular periods, etc.). I was actually happy because now I was free to make vacation plans without worrying about "mother nature" showing up unexpectedly.
menopause - and it's pleasures
I have been having my own personal summers now for 10 years ever since having a hysterectomy and removal of my ovaries (the dr wasn't supposed to remove them but he did - and the next patient got my bladder suspension - it was a big mess). Anyway - I tried some herbals from time to time - nothing really worked. I have been on estradiol injections every 2 weeks for the past 9 years - and this is the only thing that comes close to helping. It was nice in the winter - i would sleep with the heat off and especially when it was down in the teens, I could count on a goodnight's sleep with my room temperature sitting around 45-50 - and sleeping with as few clothes on as possible. I wish I had an answer for you - I would get out of MTing and sit back and enjoy my billions - but I don't think anyone has the answer. You might try some Ambien (the regular not the CR) it at least keeps you asleep - you just wake up with wet clothing and sheets in the mornings but you don't realize that you are sweating during the night. In fact, you won't even remember anything that you do or say after about 15 minutes after swallowing that little pill.
Male menopause
Is anyone's signifant other going though male menopause, mid life crisis (or whatever it is called). If so, how old are they and what is it they're going through (or better yet what are you going through). Mine is not bipolar or depressed (although he's making me depressed). Just wondering what others are facing with their husbands.
This is me right now - 
perimenopause/menopause
Anyone here go through the perimenopause/menopause without hormones. No birth control pills or HRT?
Mostly, how long did the perimenopause last before the year without the period?
Dear Menopause...
Thank you for no hot flashes and no warning of your arrival. Thank you for the worst of this being a certain amount of brain fuzz, especially when I am tired. Thank you for not bothering me with heavy or irregular gifts from Mother Nature. Thank you for showing up just when I had run out of Tampax anyway. Most all, thank you for coming right in time for my 48th birthday and bringing the gift of keeping pretty panties pretty permanently.
HAHAHA- Wait until you hit menopause.SM
forgetfulness - returns in middle age to late middle age - happens to many/most w/menopause - you will become forgetful....*lolol*
and there is no escape unless, of course, you CHOOSE to take hormonal replacement therapy - which many have not and do not today due to the other very severe problems HRT causes...
YO - but a shout out to you - BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR MID 40s-50s......and 60s-70s w/that forgetfulness. *roflmao* and it doesn't get better into your 80s and 90s either. THINK ABOUT IT....*lol*
Your problem seems to be that you leave ABSOLUTELY no room for error, and it's all gonna come back and slap you in the face in a decade or two or three. I promise this - I don't wish it on you.....but it's KARMA -
KARMA - very much like a kinahura (spelling is wrong but YOU know what I mean) equates to what goes around, comes back around, and bites you right on the face (or in the tuchas.......take your pick)......
  
Yes, especially if you're around that menopause time, too. This was
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I started a soy menopause tablet
recently. I also changed jobs because I now have no tolerance for sitting at home doing one thing. With my new job I am constantly moving, working with other people, half men, half women, get to be outside in the sunshine, and we laugh and joke all day. I haven't faced the ugly week yet, but I'm hoping it will be better. For a while there I was alternating between just sleeping the day away or screaming in frustration.
My sister has PMDD and does great on Prozac, but the only thing I'm taking now is 1/2 a clonazapam at night to sleep and multivitamin with minerals and extra D and the soy menopause stuff. But I can't tell you how it's lifting my spirits to be doing physical stuff, even sitting and kneeling on the floor of a greenhouse pulling weeds or sweeping the floor, laughing and joking with other people. It's not good for me to be inside, working all alone.
I just read 2 books on menopause sm
Apparently once you miss your first period, it takes on average 4 years for the peri- and full-blown menopause to be completed. Some get through faster, some slower. I'm 50 and have only missed a single period so far, but the mood swings are horrendous already, as well as the increased bleeding. EEEK - this is not gonna be fun!
Google Dr Christiane Northrup; she's written extensively about the process.
Losing your sex drive with menopause is
part of the natural progression of our biology.
Way past menopause, surgical back in the
89s, but my hair loss mostly due to the thyroid problem. Know age can play a part but diagnosed as coming from the problem with hormones.
I've had thinning hair every since menopause...
It's not like it comes out in gobs but just is thinning out really bad, basically can't do a ponytail anymore. My NP just said, yeah that's just the breaks with menopause and didn't want to do any testing. I finally went to a dermatologist, who ran thyroid tests and also iron tests, because he said in his experience hair loss was often associated with low ferritin. I know that I don't get much iron in my diet and took vitamins without iron since menopause, so switched to a vitamin with iron, seems to be a little better but maybe just my imagination... my ferritin was on the very low edge of normal, almost into low range. My thyroid tests came back okay.
Also about docs prescribing certain meds,I do know some veternarians who got bonuses, prizes, etc. for presribing so much of certain drugs... like quite NICE prizes. Wonder if this happens with doctors and prescribing certain drugs when they insist on a certain one...don't know but sometimes makes one wonder.
mine's been going through menopause his entire life nm
wal-mart...polaroid dvr...ebay...okay dokay
sounds like a menopause sneak attack
Your call on how to handle it, but it sounds hormonally motivated to me....the crying inappropriately about a child you are not raising kind of gives it away.
Depression/Menopause/Decreased Sex Drive
I was wondering if any has any suggestions for increasing a woman's sex drive. I have been on Wellbutrin and trazodone for years and now I am going through menopause on hormone replacement. (I am 47 and had an ovary removed last year which caused me to go into menopause.) The last few years my sex drive has decreased to almost nil. Any suggestions/information would be much appreciated.
not poster you responded to but that poster has
everyone with different opinions is allowed to post here and poster said they were making a contribution in the name of pro-peace....give that poster a break please....
ya got that right! Poster DOES know or else she
She is 54 after all.............not a baby, not a young adult/teen who really needs guidance.
She knows this is DEAD wrong but appears to be *seeking* something from all of us, as she said she was posting *in a safe place*............meaning here on the forum.
We know right from wrong from FIVE YEARS OLD on..........she knows what she is doing is most wrong/incorrect.
I just think she is craving attention, personally......... 
I will go along with the poster below who --sm
said she was *dressed*. Actually quite a personal question and no one else's business what I wear or when. I notice you didn't answer your own question, either.
If it is the same poster, she is only doing sm
400 lines in 8 hours. I guess anything is better than that. That isn't even minimum wage. If it is her, then she definitely needs a new career. 400 lines in 8 hours is ridiculous. I do 400 lines an hour. These career is only for the hardy ones.
this has nothing to do with what the poster is asking....
nm
The poster was right....
you can't change your dad, just stay happy. But, you could invite your parents to go to church with your family - if they say no, just tell them the invitation is open at any time. You could also just cheerfully mention to your Dad that you saw such and such a job in the newspaper and thought it was something he might be interested in looking into.
You're wise enough to know you can't change another person, but you can give him a little encouragement - plant a seed and see if it grows.
Happy Trails to you.
But you would have if you could have, and above poster did try (sm)
So why are you both saying parents don't owe their kids help with getting through college? Poster A tried to help hers and jlynn would have helped hers if she could.
As the poster below said...if you are..
having a tough time making it financially, maybe there are better job choices out there for you. My point was that most people who whine about having no money usually have the brand new car or two and the payments, a huge mortgage, the latest tech gear, etc. We have a lot of nice things, all paid for, but we took our time getting them. We save where we can, but we aren't letting gas prices or grocery prices change our lifestyle that much and the reason we can do that is because we only have a mortgage to pay. We have made a decision that whatever we want to buy we will either save and pay cash for or charge it and pay it off the next month. As you get older you realize stuff is just stuff, it comes and goes, and the less you can get by on the better.
PS! The poster below was right about UTI's -
I lost my previous cat (a 4-year-old male) to acute kidney failure brought on by an obstructed urinary tract. In addition to being a male, which put him at higher risk, he was also a Persian, which get this more frequently than other breeds), and he ate ONLY dry cat food. Just would not touch any kind of wet food. Although I normally only fed him high-quality food by Royal Canin, I also made the mistake of letting him have Meow-Mix as a treat occasionally, for a change. That brand has apparently messed up other cats' pH balances, and I'll always wonder if I killed him by feeding him Meow Mix....
Although he never peed outside his litter box, he did start to pee more often, and in less and less amounts. It had been happening very gradually over about a week, and at the time I hadn't really noticed it. It was only in retrospect that I remembered... AFTER it was too late. Even though he was nearly dead when he was brought in, the emergency after-hours vet clinic saved his life the first time, and for a month he was completely back to normal! But then, overnight, it came back, and the next morning I found him lying in his litter box (another warning sign!) The second time at the vet's, they said the toxins from the first episode the month before had backed up into his system and basically destroyed his kidneys, so at that point I had him put to sleep.
So, long story short, especially with a male cat, don't take any chances, and be sure to have your vet check him out. Be sure he's eating at least SOME canned (wet) cat food, and if possible, it might be wise to eliminate dry food altogether. If you do feed dry food, be sure it's a top-quality brand (with NO ingredients from China!)
Once again, good luck and best wishes!
I'm poster from above... (it's possible)
You know the spots you see in pictures sometimes? You think it's sunlight or whatever... Well we took a family pic (SIL took the pic) and there was a huge spot. My son told me he learned about Spirit Orbs at school. Well, I think the Orb was my mother. I'm sorry, but it just seemed weird to me that this would appear in this manner. We lost my Mom about 2 years ago. The kids were very attached to her. She's here in spirit; my son said I think that Orb is MeMe (that's what they called her).
Also, my son (he's 14) had a dream right after her death that she saw my Mom (looked like me) and my Dad (looked like my brother) dancing. He said they looked young and MeMe told him "don't worry, I'm in good hands." My Dad died about 13 years ago (my son was only 5 months old). So, you see, kids deal and see things different.
Your son probably does see images or what he perceives as ghosts and it frightens him because he is so young.
The sleeping arrangements in your household is your business. Whatever works. I used to sleep with my Mom when my Dad worked nights, and I was probably in junior high at the time. My Dad worked shift work. 
The above poster is right
My brother went through this. He had to take half of his wife's credit card debt. But what you can do is contact the credit card company, after the divorce is final, and ask how much they are willing to settle the account for. He settled a 14,000 credit care bill for 9,000, if he paid it within 10 days of making the agreement with them. His wife and her attorney were pretty mad, but there was nothing they could do. She kept wanting him to just give her the money and let her pay the bill, she probably already knew what they were going to settle for and thought she could pocket the 5000.00. The credit card company showed the account as paid in full satisfactorily. Assets will be split including any pensions, 401K, etc., as well as cars, boats, property, any of that stuff. You can trade off on things, for instance not touch his 401K if you get _____?? and so on.
As for the kids, there will be a set visitation schedule which you both work out and the court approves of. If he doesn't follow it or if he doesn't return the kids, than he is in contempt of court. If there are problems during the divorce, the court will set up a schedule for visitations during that period if needed.
One more tip I learned. You want the best attorney you can get. If you don't know any, ask a cop or a few if you can. LOL, they know who the good ones are and who they would call if they needed one. They're in court and around the courthouse and know how things happen. Ask more than one person and get some opinions before you retain a lawyer. It sounds like you already know he's not going to be nice about this. Don't be overly nice about it either or he'll try to take advantage.
I don't think the poster is looking for
Family friendly. She went to "Couples" Negril. Sandals and Beaches are great if you don't mind family vacations.
lol actually i said it under the first poster!
because like you i work a lot and sometimes can only catch shows once in awhile... THe office is one that i love but dont get to watch often enough cause of work.
it is so up my alley of humor. but then again im easily amused.
I hate not following every week though you know. i never thought about renting seasons or anything cause i definitely dont have an extended period of time to just sit and watch TV... too much other stuff to be doing but you are totally right, it's a good one!!!
I will ask you as I did another poster above
I know for a fact your 401K probably very much dinged along with the rest of investments unless it is a bank 401K in which there are no problems there. Having 50K in the bank is ok and like you I am 100% debt free (except for my home). Our family was close to the working poor when I was growing up and did not even own a car. I never knew we were that close to poverty, though. I have only lived in my new home around 5 years now and already have it from over 200,000 to down under 90,000 so now a big majority of the payment going not just on interest. I was heading towards danger when I financed at first with interest only. Learned a lesson real fast with that and refinanced to what I call real payments. With my being independent now I am planning to see how to set up automatic payments to the IRS so that will go straight there every so many months and will not miss it.
The poster below just does not get it
My father took out a policy on his work site in the 50s. There were only 2 children that belonged to him, my brother and myself. We were young children in the 50s. No one had any names of people we were to marry in the future, no names of grandchildren to be born in the future. Gosh, he was not psychic. He was married to my stepmom sometime in the 50s, I don’t know when but the stepmom had died 2 years before my father. My brother married (before his death in 1973), had 2 children. When my father died in 2004 the insurance company had names of my brother, his children's names, their last known address, somewhere in Knoxville, I had never visited there so had no addresses. I gave them the information I knew. It was up to the insurance company to find anyone this money belonged to. I had remarried and yet they contacted me. My name was not the same name when my father died but hello, they found me. I have no idea why Jan is so bent out of shape over this. She talks like you can just rush in and take what is not yours. I had no dealings with my brother, his family at all for years and years. You know, sometimes people just get lost. I was contacted back in approximately 1987 about getting a nephew out of a jail in Georgia that I knew nothing about. Fast forward to 2004, the year my father died, 17 years later and I had heard nothing else from the SIL, their son, their daughter since 1987. Now I hope Jan can give it a rest.
I would do like the other poster, if sm
you have to use it, just charge something really little and pay it off each month. I had one card lower my credit limit for no reason whatsoever. I was so mad and I would love to close it but won't be doing that. I sure won't charge anything and leg interest build though.
Have to agree with this poster
I'm no Bible thumping holy roller but I do know that if you TRULY understand what it means to be a Christian, you don't go in for the evil aspect of Halloween. I don't think what the pastor said and did is appropriate though. He sounds a little over the top to me.
I have to agree with the poster above
Your sister and BIL did not borrow the quad, simply agreed to bring it to their home because your husband was too tired to unload it. Sounds like the BIL was trying to be nice. Hubby was too tired to unload it, but expected BIL to do it himself at his house???
r u the poster I responded to? well if not.
If you are or are not the poster I responded to - doesn't matter one lick. The poster said *will not shop in any store that sells gay or lesbian items*
Poster did not clarify that they *WOULD shop in a store that sells heterosexual items also being sold to gays* -
You seem to have an interpretation and possibly reading problem which, if you were the poster I was responding to, accounts for the little pea-sized, shut-down to nearly closed-down brain.........
To me it is unbelievable that homophobes still exist in the 21st Century amongst the common folk?
All this spewing about Christmas and Christian way of life and giving and generosity and all this supposed good feelings, yet all I see here is hypocrisy and condemnation for anyone who is not of your faith and for anyone who doesn't interpret any bible the way that some of you do.
God says we are to love each other as we love ourselves - but looking at some of these posts I see SOME really lack loving themselves and become accusers and finger-pointers - and JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED.....
To all who condemn others who do not follow your ways, religion, closed mindedness..... Who died and left you boss of anything?
And lest not forget that Christianity and Catholicism stems from Judeo-Christian teachings.....which when I get involved teaches all about tolerance.
Now, can we all just try to be pleasant and get along and agree that we can all disagree and still be civil to one another or is that task far too great?
I agree 100% with the poster below - also...
You do not want to be his second choice. Either he is free from this other woman and available to date you in a proper manner or he is not. Him saying *things are not working out* is SO typical for someone who wants to play the field and still have the security of someone else. He has been with her 7 years, is not happy, and has not moved on??? You deserve so much better and do not need someone like him. Let sleeping dogs lie!!! 
New poster or not, you are rude. nm
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No, did not mean original poster...
I was referring to the poster who stated she was certain she would be in Heaven. I don't know how she could tell someone that because try as I may, I don't know that I will pass the test. I understand saying things like that are to comfort the grieving person, but I also think we may be held accountable for giving false hope like that, but then again there are a lot of things we just won't know until it is time to know them. To the original poster, I do feel so badly for you and hope that you find the comfort you need in this trying time. I'm sure you are questioning God and that is fine too, just remember he has a plan for everything.
You know what the poster meant
by spelling it wrong and who really cares. There is always someone out there to nit pick. GEEZ
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