Those pit bull attacks are ashame...sm
Posted By: blondie_1147 on 2008-11-10
In Reply to: Here are some facts. - truffle
I don't know why these dogs attacked. I don't know if these dogs were provoked or what. It is hard for me to imagine a dog just attacking for no reason. I can't imagine my dog ever doing that. I know other people who have pits as pets and they have never had a problem with attacks. I think every good owner should know their dog inside and out and know their little quirks. Now I could see a pit bull attacking an owner who was sometimes mean to them or mistreated them in some way. I could see them getting enough and attacking. A lot of times I think that is really behind attacks and we don't know that. Still a dog never should kill a human. When you own a pit you have to have the utmost respect for the fact they could kill an animal or human if they wanted. They are physically capable but most are not emotionally capable.
My dad had a couple different pits and I have learned my great grandfather had pits for many years. He would only have one at a time. He took his pit hunting hogs and the pit would hold the hog and my great grandfather would put a rag over the dogs nostrils to cause him to have to let go of the hog and he would do whatever it was he then did with the hog. I didn't ask details. But what I am saying here is this was an man who was in close interaction with a pit and was right there when they attacked hogs and he intervened and had to pull them away from the hog by cutting off breathing from the dog so he would let go. He was never attacked or bitten. My dad said that was never an issue. The dogs knew he was the master and they never got out of line. If these were as unstable as some are made out to be and some may be but if they were really that unstable they could have attacked and killed this man. But he never had to worry about this. All of his pits loved and respected him as their owner. Now one deciding factor could be he never mistreated his dog. Never ever. He always treated them good. I think this may be why his dogs never showed him anything but kindness. Again there are some dogs (pits and others) who are unstable. They are just flat out mean and would do anything. But not all dogs are like this. My husband often says when people say aren't you worried CJ could hurt you one day. He says no I KNOW in my heart with everything in me this dog would die before he would hurt one of us. This pit is the most loving affectionate dog I have had the joy to own. Don't ask me how I know.. You would have to know CJ.
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DOG ATTACKS
I think that pit bulls are sweet puppies (my son had one once and she was a dumpling little puppy) and I loved her, but when she got older I started to see the potential for disaster. We lived in a regular neighborhood with lots of children and even though we were with her (the pit bull) all the time and never left her out I started fearing that if she did get out and attacked somone that I could never live with myself. They are SO strong and have incredible jaw strength. We found her a home in a neighboring state where she lived on a ranch (she loved it) where there were no children. She lived there all her days and never harmed anyone, but I know she could have if the circumstances were right. I have to say that our family has had a near-tragedy involving a dog that we raised from a puppy, cared for him, loved him, and when he was one year old he suddenly, without provocation of any kind, attacked a child (our grandchild) in our yard. He had been around this same child every day for his whole life and his relationship with the child was very good. This was witnessed by several adults and it is only by the grace of God that my husband was able to save his life. The dog jumped on him from behind and took him down on the ground and proceeded to bite and rip at his face and head. He was in surgery for hours and fortunately he has healed and his scars are few. Amazingly, he still loves dogs. My husband said it took everything he had to force this dog off the child and that he had never seen anything like it in his life. This dog was a German shepard, not a pit bull, but still very strong and powerful. I think the point is that all dogs have the potential to harm humans, but some dogs are capable of killing if the circumstances are just right. We don't know why ours did this, but we were humbled and frightened by this experience. We had believed that we "knew" the dog and that he was "safe." I believe that those powerful dogs are best kept away from busy neighborhoods, homes and buildings where there are children and never, ever will I believe that any baby or small child should be allowed to be in close proximity to one of them. Any dog at any time could "turn" and become vicious if the circumstances are right. We still have dogs, but we changed to border collies and Shih-Tzus. I hope that the child that was attacked is doing well. Your post brought back memories and I had to reply. It was therapeutic for me (sometimes I still dream about our dog attacking our grandchild) and a good ad for Shih-Tzus and border collies!
These are the only attacks that you
hear about, not just because this is the only breed that attacks. Pitbulls are just so exploited, and half the time when they say it is a pitbull attack it isn't even a purebred pitbull. I don't care what breed that I hear attacks, that doesn't make me believe that it is the whole breed. It use to be Chow Chows a few years ago, and I have owned two of them and never had a problem. Just sad how people play into whatever they hear on the news.
Panic Attacks
I have had panic attacks since I was 38 and am now going to be 55. It started with a lot of stress in my life.. work, my sister committed suicide. I went like this for about 8 months before anyone would listen to me. I bought self-help books and i KNEW i had a panic disorder. Went to several therapists, psychiatrists. They wouldn't listen to me.. They asked me a million questions. Finally a friend at work suggested her Internal Medicine physician. I walked in to his office, told him I have a panic disorder. He said you don't look nervous. I said I am having a panic attack as we are3 speaking. I would have 4-5 panic attacks a day every day. I told him I had seen therapists, psychiatrists, etc. He said are you going to keep seeing the psychiatrist. I said NO.. because the first one i went to said " So tell me about your crazy family". That was it for me. I was shocked. So the Internal Medicine doctor put me on medication and my whole life changed.. I felt so much better, was able to cope, etc. Medicine is not for everyone but my panic attacks had blown so out of proportion that I finally became depressed because I could not function even though I went to work every day and many days having to leave work. I am still on medicine and feel great. The Internal Medicien doctor helped me more than the others. He listened to me and said " okay we are going to get you the right medicine and he told me that I needed to be patient. I have changed medicines now with the new one of Paxil and I am sooo much better. I am thankful for the day I walked into his office.
Anyone know anything about heart attacks?
A friend recently broke a date with me without letting me know and is saying his father had a heart attack on Saturday and almost died. Said he had a panic attack and couldn't let me know what was going on. He has never been close to his dad at all and hasn't seen him in several years. Was happy as a clam the next day after having a panic attack the day before. Now today, Monday, a day and a half later, says his dad is out of the hospital and back at home and did not have anything done, no angioplasty, no stents, nothing. Is this possible?
Have a question about heart attacks..
My husband had sharp shooting pains running down his left arm last night for just a couple of minutes. He asked if he was having a heart attack and I told him that was a symptom and i'd take him to the ER but he said he didn't want to go. That stopped and then a little while later he said he wasn't feeling well and went to sleep. Was that a symptom of a heart attack? If the pain subsided, is it likely to come back again - and with a vengeance or could it have been something else? He says he's never had that before. Said he didn't hit his elbow or pinch a nerve or do anything to cause it. When it happened we were driving down the road when he started vigorously rubbing his arm.
Why these attacks? I find YOU 'interesting!...sm
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I concur. He may be experiencing anxiety attacks, which would
most definitely cause profuse sweating. As already stated by others, probably the best "medicine" he can receive is TLC provided by you.
I own a pit bull...sm
He lives inside with us and sleeps in my bed with me when my husband is out of town working. He is nothing more than a big baby. I believe you that your dog is amazingly sweet. Just because he has a certain breed in him does not guarantee he will be a mean, dangerous dog. I think it is WRONG to euthanize a dog because of its breed. It makes me very angry. I do agree with restrictions such as having a fenced in yard and not allowing them to roam loose. These dogs are very protective of their owners and WILL hurt someone if they are a stranger and they feel their owner is threatened. That is where dog owner responsibility comes in. My dog has never and will never be allowed to roam free. He stays in the house and I have a fenced in back yard he cannot get out of. I have signs posted on the fence in the backyard as a warning. He is not a mean dog but if a stranger he does not know approaches him or the back yard or comes to the door he will get aggressive. If someone my dog is not famiiiar with comes over I put him in the backyard. But as long as it is someone he knows and has met and he knows I am okay with them being here he is fine. He will lick them and wag his tail. He is just very protective of me. If anyone ever tried to hit me or attack me he would attack them. I had a friend jokingly look at CJ (my pit) and she said I am gonna hit your mama CJ and she reared back and hit at me. He did lunge at her. But I hollered and grabbed his collar and when I hollared he instantly sit. But I told her don't ever do that again. Beleive me she won't. CJ would never intentionally hurt someone unless he felt I or he was threatened. He is the biggest baby ever. If he knows someone he will lick them and love on them. To euthanize all pit bulls is stupidity. Unless you own one you don't know what misunderstood dogs they are. It is all in the owner and how responsible they are. If you don't own one you can't know how loving they can be. I can say without a doubt my pit would die to protect me if he had to. And the only time he will get aggressive is when a stranger approaches our house or the back fenced in yard. RESPONSIBLE ownership is the key. I don't even take CJ out for walks because I do not want to take a risk of him getting loose from me and feeling threatened by somone and hurting them. He will not have an opportunity to bite anyone because if a person he doesn't know comes over we put him out in the backyard in the fenced in area. If a stranger comes in the back yard when there are signs posted then they will just get bit possibly because they were warned. They can come to my front door anytime. But not the back. I think I am responsible and if my dog was aggressive to us or my friends or family who came over I wouldn't have him but he is not that way. It is only strangers.
anything but a pit bull
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I would say that you have every reason to have panic attacks what with all the stress you've SM
been under. I take Effexor XR for my painic attacks and atenolol to help control my BP and it keeps my heart rate down. The combination works wonderfully, although I wonder if I've become a little too dependent on it as I sometimes get a little anxious at the thought of being without my Effexor.
I would have periodic episodes of anxiousness going all the way back to my teenage years, but I would always work through it myself. Then a year ago, in the midst of marital trouble and feeling alone as I lived two states away from friends and family, I started having what I now know to be gallbladder pain while I was at work. In my mind, I knew I wasn't having a heart attack, the pain was in my right rib cage and radiated around to my right scapula. But I couldn't seem to convince my body. My heart started racing, my mind was racing. I felt dizzy and short of breath. I went to the employee health nurse who took my BP and it was sky high. She immediately rushed me to the ER which freaked me out even further.
Long story short, I was having a full blown panic attack and I hope that I never experience anything like that again. I ended up crying for three weeks straight, was afraid be left alone, was afraid to leave my house, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, would pace the house with my heart racing, not able to calm myself down.
I saw three different doctors before I found a female doctor who listened to me and told me she knew exactly what I was talking about because her daughter had panick attacks too. She started me on Effexor and set me up with a therapist who taught me breathing techniques and meditation techniques to help calm myself when I feel anxious. One technique, as simple as it sounds, is something I practice almost daily which is deep breathing: in through your nose and out through your mouth and as you exhale allow your body to relax starting from the shoulders down. It seems silly, but it really works. I noticed that I clenched my jaw a lot and so that is were I focus my mind when I'm trying to relax. I focus on the tension in my jaw and start relaxing from there down.
Exercise is another great technique for relieving anxiety and stress. All the experts say that, and it's true. Just getting outside and walking can clear the mind.
Well, I've rambled on and on. Sorry about that. Let me just add one more thing, if you decide to try medication, my advice would be to be patient. Sometimes it takes a few different trials of medication before you find the one that fits. My doctor explained to me that panick attacks are caused by an overactive fight or flight response in the brain and so SSRI antidepressants like Zoloft or Celexa won't do the trick. You have to have a NRI (norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor) to calm the response.
I'm not saying you need medicine, but I am saying that you may want to get a handle on it now so you don't have to go through what I did. I can't even explain how horrible it feels to have your mind spinning of control. I felt like I was genuinely losing my mind.
Well, anyway I feel for you and I wish you well.
Pit bull or not he is a loving dog ...sm
who has never attacked and I honestly with all my heart know he would never hurt me. I believe in all honesty he would die to protect me to make sure I wasn't harmed if that is what it took. I know some pits have attacked owners and I believe these were either unstable dogs or abused or provoked. My dog has a respect for me also. He knows I am the boss and when I take a firm tone and let him know I am not happy with him he just bows his head and lays down. I didn't set out to own a pit bull he kind of fell into my lap you could say and I fell in love with him and he with me. I rocked him as a baby and nurtured him and he loves me with everything in him and I love him the same. My ownership of him just happened unexpectedly and I am so grateful it did. When I am sad he licks my tears and is so loving. I know other breeds are capable of this but CJ just happens to be a pitbull. I dont care. His breed is not important. It is the love in his heart. What is inside him. I don't judge a dog for what they are but who they are.
So true. I have a pit bull and I don't think...sm
you could pay a stranger to come in. If he doesn't know someone he is showing his a$$. A big baby but no strangers coming in his house. It is nice and comforting because my husband is a truck driver and is gone a lot. This dog sleeps with me and just makes me feel like my big protector.
BTW, no, this dog is not allowed to roam free. I am a responsible owner and he has a back yard that is fenced in and he is never allowed out of that yard. And as long as he knows you then it is all good.
I would be much more scared of the pit bull
than someone trying to break into my house. I do animal rescues and 1 place I rescue from (animal shelter) will not let this breed be adopted by Jane or John Doe- they are just considered vicious. They are put down rather than adopted out.
What about Petey the pit bull on the ....sm
Little Rascals? Do you think if he was a mean vicious pit bull they would have allowed him to be around children everyday. Think about it. BTW, he never hurt not one person while doing this show.
To pit bull owners and defenders:
Two weeks ago in my city, an elderly demented man was found dead at home by his daughter's boyfriend when he returned home from work. Autopsy confirmed that his death was caused by his daughter's and her boyfriend's 3 pit bulls. I'm sure this lady loved her dear father and believed the dogs were companions to him as he was home alone during the day.
I just can't understand the loyalty to this breed. Why take chances when the outcome can be deadly? This woman will be blaming herself for the rest of her life.
All dogs bite, but pit bulls don't stop until they have killed.
Maybe you're feeding him too much bull!
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No he is full blooded pit bull with papers...sm
But everyone thinks he has boxer in him. He has always looked like a boxer because of his color. Everybody thinks he is a boxer or boxer mix.
Dear Owners of Aggressive Pit Bull:
I've already called animal control on you once and reported him for cornering, and then trying to bite me.
Well guess what. I bought mace. Not the wimpy dog-park spray, either. This is law-enforcement grade. It's the real deal.
The next time that sorry, un-neutered son-of-a-biotch comes anywhere near me, he's getting not just a warning squirt, he's getting the entire bottle in his face, maybe enough to close up his throat and kill him. I sure hope it does.
bull, he was not too drunk he has a girlfriend. See the writing on the wall. nm
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I forgot Penn and Teller's Bull**** on Showtime
I agree with most every darned thing they say.
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