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This is too much! I was just over on the Religion board and sm

Posted By: Me on 2007-11-12
In Reply to: Well I can't. - Newbie

someone posted a link to Alan Jackson's How Great Thou Art. It was an amazing tribute. Then another slow song came on after that and I came over here while letting the music play in the background. I was doing fine until I read about the 10 y.o. getting fitted for dentures. I am bawling my eyes out over here! I have a sweet, precious, well-behaved 10 year old son. I can't imagine. I just can't. O God, help us.


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    But, shouldn't this be on the RELIGION Board?? nm
    x
    take your bible thumping to the religion board.
    Another good example of a CARNAL "Christian" calling people pathetic and nauseating, a fine example of "love thy neighbor as thyself." LOL
    I did last year and promptly told to post on religion board.
    xx
    Heads up! The Gab board is for general discussion not to include MT, Religion, or Politics.
    This was put into place when we very first set up the Gab board.  We have a Christianity, Conservatives, and Liberals forum that you can post on.  But, let me be clear. I do not condone trashing of anyone's religious preference and neither should you.  I expect posts on any of these forums to be respectful (that does NOT mean we are censoring, there IS a difference).  This is NOT open for debate. These are the rules.  If you can't respect them, you don't need to post here.
    Tell them it is against your religion.
    That has worked for me and have had some say, really? I just refuse, simple for me.
    Could someone tell me if there is a Christianity board as well as a prayer board (sm)
    or are they one in the same? I have some faith related questions, but don't want to post on the prayer board again if it is specifically for prayer requests. I do not see a Christianity board listed. Thanks so much.
    Main board, gab board, company, etc, just like here,
    x
    As far as I know, it sounds like her religion....
    is Penecostal. I believe that the women in that religion wears skirts at all times. Jehovah's Witnesses do not wear skirts all the time, only when attending congregation meetings and when out in their ministry that they do.

    I feel very sorry for the OP because it sounds like her & hubby are good friends to the couple. It is true that divorce hurts everyone....what's worse is that marriage can sometimes hurt everyone too.

    In a case like this, it is better to just be supportive to both parties and try not to take sides, hopefully they will iron things out.
    This is not religion, this is MYTH.
    x
    No MT, no politics, no religion. Anything else is ok.
    /
    I am not trying to be disrespectful but her religion- sm
    is/was her business. If I was on my deathbed the last thing I would want do discuss with my relatives would be if I had accepted Jesus into my heart, etc. I really hate it that new "christians" feel it is there mission in life to "save" everybody and feel they have to convert everybody and save them from themselves. My dad has recently refound religion and it is causing lots of strife in our family which is very non-religious. No one wants to be with him because his is constantly nagging us to go to church with him, to convert, etc. He blamed it on my mom (who is dead) as the reason why he did not return to the church sooner - horsepucky as Colonel Potter would say-- once she died he was re-born 3 months later. I am not baptist, nor do I go to church, nor do my kids. They know about Jesus and God though, but I don't feel the need or desire to go to church every Sunday and hand them over 10% of our gross income which in our case would almost pay for a second house. You should not be worrying about your grandmother's salvation, worry about yourself and stop trying to save the world. I am sure she is where she wanted to be and her spirit will live on in your heart and memories.
    That's the Muslim Religion

    Haven't you seen or heard how they treat their women, especially with all the stuff happening in the Middle East now. They are the ruler of the family and the women must cow-tow [sic] to them. 


    IOW, women are second class citizens in their world just like it used to be in the U.S. before Susan B. Anthony and others. If you daughter wants to be independent, there is no way it will happen being married to him. I wouldn't even bother telling the parents since they are getting a divorce, BUT MAKE SURE you get a restraining order on him or else it may get very dangerous.


    I don't mean to scare you, but please be careful.


     


    woodchucks & religion
    How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could wood?  Gotta smile....As for the posts about religion, let the Christians be.... It matters not whether you're Baptsit, Jewish, Budhist, Christian, Hindu, Catholic, AME Zion, 7th day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, atheists...There's a lot more people here in the US with diverse backgrounds and beliefs....That's what makes this country so great...freedom of speech and the freedom to practice the religion of your choice  Lighten up. 
    I am not turning this to a religion argument- sm
    I prefer not to have my child taught at a church school for personal reasons. The school they were attending squeezed in church teachings as it is, though they were not a church school, and I was not thrilled with that either. Some teachers did it more than others. As for find a teacher that "really cares" only being at a church affiliated school, that is quite a broad statement to make. At the private school my kids had been attending, the teaches were paid 25% less than what the teachers made at the public school level, which could mean 3 things, the teacher really cared and wanted a small class size to teach, (2) wanted kids that were less troublesome to teach and better behaved (3) the teacher was inadequate and could not get hired in a public school (which was the case for a few teachers where my kids were). ---There are a lot of angles to look at when considering private school religion is one of them, tuition, quality of the teachers, certification, the school board, the parent organization, the involvment expects --ours was extreme involvement which is good and bad (burnout)--I am much happier now with the kids in public school, and my 8-y/o is now actually being taught by a qualified computer teacher and not some old lady who knew nothing about computers or computer programs trying to make a few extra bucks having the kids make designs and pictures on the computer (they had a new computer teacher every year as they'd quit every year). There are pros and cons to every school, you got to find out what you want to deal with.
    yep, religion and landowners.....I agree! sm

    The Crusaders - yep, I remember it well.  Also, I divorced a man who later on became born again and now we cannot have ONE conversation without him bringing that aspect of life into the convo.


    Really bothers me too........geesh.


    there are *weird psychos* in EVERY religion...

    I so respect everyone's religion but I am appalled by religious fanatics...the ones who go wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overboard and I think misinpret Bibles.......taking things to the EXTREME.....


    fanatics, extremists - nope, cannot deal with them....and shouldn't have to but I notice each religion has so many different levels and sects - it's almost like different religions within each separate religion....I get some of that....but not all of it....


    *scratches head quizzically* because I'm a live and let live type of person and so it's difficult to understand why EVERYONE doesn't let everyone live and let live.....


    Not the right term to use here. Amen against religion?nm
    xx
    I also know of one religion that helps out community
    they actually pay back some in taxes to communities where there is a volunteer fire department, etc., precisely because they benefit from such services.
    No, it is an inferance and any teaching of religion -sm
    should be done by the parents. I had my kids in private school up until 2 years ago, took them out for several reasons, one being that many of the teachers were teaching about God and making them pray before every meal (snack and lunch). I was paying $12K a year for my kids not to be in a church school, as this was not a religious school (or at least not supposed to be). I could have sent them to many, many cheaper schools in the area but they were all church affiliated. Some of us don't want our kids to be taught by others. I explain all the different religions to my kids, but don't want some outsider to teach their beliefs to my child. It is not their business to teach religion, if they want to do that then become a minister and run a church.
    i beg to differ. I wish i had freedom FROM religion
    I get treated by a leper because I am athiest.

    Are you rejecting religion and the Bible or God?

    I have problems myself with organized religion; however, I have personal proof of life after death, which leads me to believe in a Creator.  Just curious about where you're coming from.


    I know the catholic religion has guidelines

    that my religion, Methodist, don't have as I have relatives that have converted so they can get married.  I think in my cousin's case, he did not want to jump through all those hoops and was thinking about getting married by a methodist preacher.   That priest told them that if they do that, but then his wife-to-be would loose her place in the church, meaning she could still go but she could not, participate in ceremonies, make decisions for the church etc.,  because she would not be considered married and living in sin. 


    Anyway, I think your dd and future SIL should get a 2nd opinion from another priest.  But, you should remember too that this is their battle.  If they are big enough to get married, they are big enough to fight their own battles.  If they truly want to be married than they will and this is pretty much small potatoes. 


    Sounds like a conservative religion. Mennonite
    perhaps? They are less conservative than Amish, but very conservative - skirts and meeting in homes being my only clues. But that said - normally any conservative "religion" also does not approve of divorce no matter what - save adultery. And I have heard that some conservative "reconstructionist" groups do not even support divorce under those circumstances either - sounds like the wife is playing some games. Very sad, and I'm sorry for you folks, too. Divorce hurts everyone.
    Didn't say you couldn't talk about religion
    She just said to take it to the Christianity Boards and keep it off the Gab Board. I had no problem with it, but the we're not in charge, the modertor/adminstrator is.
    Isn't it illegal to fire someone for observing their own religion? nm
    x
    Haven't you heard? Freedom of religion isn't for...SM

    Christians.  It's for everyone else.  Sure a Muslim can pray in this country anytime they want, heck you can worship satan himself or practice witchcraft, but a be a Christian and actually admit you are one, let alone pray or read your Bible in public... come on, are you serious?  You know every Christian has a secret agenda.  We're just proselytizing little brainwashed fools.  We're not just praying quietly to ourselves -- we are praying God will send a lightening bolt and strike all the unbelievers.  We Christians aren't just placing our Bibles on our desks to read during our breaks -- we HOPE to beat someone over the head with it at some point during the day.


    Freedom of religion has been twisted by the liberal spin doctors.  It only applies to to those who think like them.... ironic isn't it?


    "The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." -- Lenny Bruce


     


    Also try reading about comparative religion and myth - sm
    I recommend The Power of Myth (book and series of specials on PBS) with Joseph Campbell. Interesting stuff. The search for the meaning of life is world-wide and Christianity is certainly not the only belief system out there, nor organized religion in general for that matter!
    Religion is not the only means to spirituality or vice versa (SM)
    They certainly do exist together for many people, but they do exist exclusive of each other for others. An atheist can be the most spiritual person on the block over his or her religious peers. Spirituality is a concept that is different for each person. It is what makes a person feel they are at the right place at the right time, like they are at peace, or whatever someone decides for themself is their truth.

    Think outside the box!
    Yes, but Indian's from India are not Muslim. They are of the Hindu religion. sm
    they also believe in reincarnation and not the Koran.

    They do treat women as a much lower class, though.
    Doesn't matter what religion they are, the Indians treat
    .
    That's what I LOVE about America. Freedom of Religion, speech, etc. But sm
    I have to say, if you are an atheist (I am a Christian, BTW), where is your moral "compass" (sorry for the pun) I was an atheist for many, many years (3/4 of my life spent without God or religion). In that time I was: Suicidal, desperate, a liar, a phony, had no direction in life, a slander and just about everything else worldly you could think of. I was selfish..must I go on?
    Then, when I hit rock bottom I had no where to look but up. He was there (God). He placed me upon a rock and I've never looked back or down since. I can honestly say I no longer lie or think bad thoughts about other people. I have a clear direction for my life. I do follow Biblical principles and obey His laws. I have a moral compass and a value system I am so proud of. As an atheist there was no right or wrong in my life. Since I didn't fear God I did basically whatever I felt was good or right, even believe in abortion. I am being totally transparent with you, from one ex-atheist to another atheist.

    How do you explain a radical life change such as myself? Where do you draw your line of morality from? God says abortion is wrong and so it's wrong. God says a gay lifestyle is an abomination, and so it is. Don't get mad at me, It's in His Word. He said it. Not me.

    Anyways, I think that there is much to be said about living a good Christian lifestyle and following its beliefs. My life is in clear order now instead of chaos. I have a life-long goal - to make it to heaven and take those whom I love with me.

    What a sad, sad life I led before God. Wow. Like the old saying goes, "I never want to go back to my old life." Good luck to you.


    naw - that was the old board that did that, aka the 'other' board!
    why was it here and not on the Politics board anyway?
    why do people go door to door to talk about their religion?

    arent they settitng themselves up for confrontatoin?


    Is that board still available?
    Thought I had it in favorites, but takes me to the main board . . . I do not have board options to the left though. Anyway, the Gab board is to gab about anything not MT, so I'm sure she's fine here, but I had been trying to check out the WAHM board yesterday and couldn't get there, so just thought it funny you brought it up today.
    a new board??
    Oh, I love it.  We can yak about anything here?  I'' be back! 
    RE: Gab board

    Sorry about that. . .I'm new to this site. I'll take my questions out to the Company Board. I might get some additional advice there.


    I don't think many on this board ... sm

    I posted on scrapbooking one time and didn't get any response.  I love to scrapbook and I am about to finish up one that is a thank you gift for the family that we stayed with last year on vacation in Colorado. 


    I am limited in what I can spend on it so I have to depend on a paper cutter, scissors and I love corner punches.  I think I have seen the machine that you are asking about but I really don't know anything about it. 


    The question I posted back quite a while ago is concerning scrapbook programs on the computer.  Do you know anything about them?  I think I would like to use one of those programs but I have not found anyone as of yet who is knowledgeable about them. I was trying to research that one day through Google and found this website. You might find the answer to your question on here: twopeasinabucket.com   This is a scrapbooking website and I found it quite interesting although I didn't have a lot of time to spend looking for the answer to my question.  Good luck!


    About using this board -
    Does anybody know why, especially in the replies, when I click on the subject sometimes I just get one letter or a mark, or there just isn't anything there?  Am I doing something wrong?
    I think there is only one Jan on the board,
    so you can always skip her posts if you don't want to read them.

    When somebody is hurting, it is only natural for a caring person to offer whatever they have that could help. Every Christian on earth was once a nonchristian, and somebody led them to Christ, perhaps by offering them help or hope in a time of need.

    Nonchristians of all kinds are also free to offer whatever help or hope they have to offer.
    I saw this on another board I was on
    and it was said that Walter Reed will not pass out cards made out to "A Recovering American Soldier." So you might want to check before you do it.
    Thanks, JMR, we need more like you on this board!
    Thanks so much, will copy your info down. MERRY Christmas, and thanks for your positive and kind input!!!
    what other old board?
    .
    What other board?
    nt
    You don't pay for the other board....
    the best thing about it is nobody is nasty towards each other, no name calling if you have a different opinion about something, not much whining and complaining about how horrible someone's job is, etc. A nice breath of fresh air over there. Been on the political board here lately? If you want to see nastiness, pettiness and childish behaviour, hop on over there for a bit.
    Where is the other board?
    I would like to communicate with some nice people.
    Can you tell me where the other board is too?
    Thank you.
    How many on the board

    are finding it hard to make their house payment, car payment or credit card payment?


    No you do not need the board, but you do need
    xx
    this board
    I would liken this board to a bus stop. Or talking to someone in line. Americans love to do that. Mindless chit chat, no politics, religion, or anything too personal. I hope you are not scarred, but virtually (pun intended) no one feels super anonymous here. You are okay, just remember you are at the bus stop and these are not your sisters....
    This board isn't a job interview.
    This is a place to kick back, relax, and vent. I don't see this as a place where people have to behave professionally, although it'd be nice if they behaved more politely.

    There's a time and place, and what you see is appropriate for this place. I'd expect to see professionalism on the job search boards.

    There are all kinds of ways to get work done. You're right that it's a privilege to be able to work from home. You do it in your manner, and others do it in theirs. As long as the output is professional quality and timely, the methods are as individual and as varied as the people.

    That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it!
    Why is there so much assuming on this board
    because once you assume you know what you are talking about, usually wrong as you are in this case. I took in my stepgrandchildren, 3 of them, 8, 13 and 15 and raised them for 3 years. Their mother on crack, their father in prison and they went around their real grandmother's home and she sold dope and illegal alcohol from her home. I went to their school, middle and grammer, endlessly. I saw things I never saw as I was growing up, so disrespectful to authority figures. The mother took son to crack house with her, kids lucky to eat 1 meal a day when not living with me. So instead of telling me I don't know, think I have probably lived it. I doubt all the kids getting the diagnosis of attention deficit really fit that category. Oh, tell me I don't know about that either, not so because a neighbor of mine used to get a check and had her son diagnosed just to get a check. Get your head out of the sand.