These kids will suffer tremendously sm
Posted By: anonamiss on 2009-02-12
In Reply to: What a sad statement, pushing the consequences - onto innocent children.
They are innocent children thrown into a horrible situation, why punish them and judge them? The poor things are still in an incubator on tubes, etc. Can you imagine even trying to "hold" 8 babies in one feeding, never mind one day. Of course the mom is wrong to have done this, and what was she thinking??? I would not harm one hair on these babies' heads. If they were a brood of puppies, they would be getting dog food donated from all over, so why not give something to these poor children? As for the Mom, she cannot be in her right mind. If you've ever been "without" as a child, you know what I'm talking about, it's a tough, hard road. I say give to the children if you can, something in the way of clothing, food, etc., just to get them through tough times. As for the mother, she doesn't deserve to be pampered, given money, etc., for anything that will promote her own selfish cause. Someone in the courts should be sure any monies or anything that can be exchanged for money should be strictly dealt with and harshly dealt with if she tries to spend one cent on herself. I say, "save the children" not the mother. I feel so bad for these babies I could cry. They need our help. I don't know what I'm going to do. I just wish I could take one in and give it a home, but I'm too old, they wouldn't let me. Or I would do it - today!! As for the older six, those poor kids don't have a chance, why punish them? It will be a zoo around there and they'll suffer greatly.
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exercise helps tremendously
even bike riding on crisp days is a sure way to feel alive again. On cloudy days it brightens my day. I hope you find your outlet :)
My vent - tremendously offensive - ashleymadison.com
As a happily married woman who has watched couples around her disintigrate because of one or another spouse's infidelity, this is just disgusting. This company was going to advertise during the SuperBowl but the NFL stepped in and said no. Kudos for them.
I hate to break it to folks, but cheating on your spouse is NOT okay. It is adultery, and in a lot of places it is still a crime. It may not be enforced, but that law is there on the books in most states in this very country. It is the one sin the Bible says cannot be forgiven completely. There is a reason for that.
Before you all hit me with 'what about abuse', let me say that this is an area where I have gone 'round and 'round with pastors - if a man (or woman, for that matter) abuses their spouse, then that is most definitely a reason for divorce. However, all these folks just 'tired' of one mate and looking for another? You should have chosen better to begin with. Everyone says 'is this the person I want to wake up next to for the rest of my life', but the real question needs to be 'is this the person i am willing to change diapers for when and if they cannot do it for themselves'. If you can look at the person next to you and say that you will stick with them no matter what, not counting abuse and adultery, but if this person gets a TBI in a car accident the day after your wedding, and you are not willing or able to take care of them for the rest of their lives, DO NOT MARRY THEM, because if you don't care for them that much, you will not stay married to them.
There, I am off my soap box. I am sure I will get pounded for this, but let her rip. I'm a big girl and I can handle it...or just not read those posts.
HC
Flax oil and taurine supplements helped me tremendously (sm)
Mine is now pretty much gone but any time I feel bad I start back on the flax oil (oil not capsules) and it helps tremendously. I hope you feel better soon!
I am sorry you had to suffer through that, but SM
thank God the end result was worth it. My Uncle lost two wives, both to lung cancer and both heavy smokers. When my aunt died many years ago my uncle, who was a moderate to heavy smoker told my dad after listening to her at night in the bathroom retching for hours with the treatment for the lung cancer, that did it. He told my dad he would never pick another cigarette up, and to this day he has not. My aunt was always so fun loving and my cousins, her three sons, used to have more fun bringing their friends home and playing cards and laughing with my aunt and uncle than going out! My aunt always laughed at that. She was so proud!
Some time later my uncle married the second wife. We buried her three years ago this Thanksgiving. Thanks for your post. Wonderful for you!
From one allergy suffer to another...
My first allergist basically told me I was allergic to nearly everything, including my 4 cats, who I refused to get rid of. Another allergist looked at my results and gave me a different type of allergy test. It showed very severe allergies mostly to dust mites and a very, very small reaction to cats, but because my reaction was so strong to the dust mites it prevented the prick for cats being read correctly. I would try bathing the dog more often and using those wipes suggested by another poster. Using HEPA filters around the house (and especially in her bedroom) can really help with many allergens. You may want to try really aggressively altering the environment since you sound like you want to keep your dog. Good luck to you! :-)
I suffer from severe hot flashes that have been going on now for s/m
several years. I know hormone replacement therapy is very dangerous. I am about crazy with them as they have come back stronger than ever, every several minutes. This is life altering and I am not sleeping because of constant waking up all night long. I tried black cohosh some years ago at the suggestion of my gynecologist which in the beginning worked like a charm. Then I noticed it actually made them worse and more frequent, timing them to every 15 minues. Can someone please help with some suggestions that would actually help get back to somewhat of a normal life and sleeping pattern.  Thanks in advance!
How log does your friend suffer from diabetes?
Diabetes is a devastating illness that destroys over time all organs in the body. Taking medicaments and later insulin injections can only slow down the destruction of the organs.
If I were you I would not blame the doctors.
If you suffer from lower back pain
or arthritis like me, you may want to try the SALONPAS pain relieving patch. Works great! Relatively inexpensive. Comes in different sizes. Right before it rains, I often get horrible arthritis related lower back pain problems. I put on the patch and I am able to type almost pain free. If you can not find it in your local pharmacy, your may want to look it up online. Made by Hisamitsu Parmaceutical Co. Best patch/pain reliever I have tried.
Your neighbors should suffer some sort of consequences... SM
for how they've treated their dog!!!! And let me tell you, it's not just rednecks or trashy people. My ex-in-laws, a very wealthy couple who were known throughout their church and community as giving and loving people would go out of town and leave their dog chained up in the backyard for weeks at a time. They'd just leave a whole bag of dog food for the poor animal and lots of water. They wouldn't even ask anyone to come over and check on the poor thing! We lived in another state at the time and I continually threatened to call animal control on them but my now ex-husband would beg me not to get his dad in trouble and would always call one of their neighbors to check up on the dog.
After one of their trips, the dog disappeared never to be seen again. She was a beautiful white shepherd. They had the audacity to call me and my ex up and cry on the phone about how awful it was and expected me to sympathize with them! I just simply said, that dog probably got herself loose and ran for her life. I hope she's found a new home with better owners!
Then they went and got another german shepherd and didn't take care of her. We moved in next door to them (never be your in-laws' neighbor, it's just like on Everybody Loves Raymond!) and I ended up taking care of this poor dog because once again they were never home. Then the dog was sick and in pain and could hardly move around and I told them repeatedly she needed to go to the vet. Did they ever take her? NO! I had to scrape together the money and take that poor dog to the vet to find out she was anemic and had bone cancer. It was suggested that because she was in so much pain she should be euthanized. My ex-husband didn't think we should make that decision cause she wasn't ours. So when we told my in-laws, they broke down crying and said they didn't believe in euthanization and could bare to part with their beloved Ruthie! WHAT!!?!?!?
So they let the dog suffer until I called the humane society on them. So you see there are just people in this world that don't deserve to have the unconditional love a pet. Those people deserve to be chained up in their backyards for a few days with warm, nasty, days old water and dog food. See how they like it!!!
I'm glad your situation was resolved, but I would keep an eye on your neighbors though.
Anyway, I'm an animal lover too and I just can't stand to see an animal suffer. I would have cried right along with you.
Good idea - I hate that children suffer (sm)
Because of their parents' behavior. If I just give them food at least I know the kids can eat!
I don't know about that - guys like that usually suffer in prison - even most criminals hate chil
He would probably get what he deserves better in prison - from the other prisoners, as long as they don't let him out!!
It didn't work out due to combining of kids and step kids. nm
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Nope, no kids with him, all of our kids are 20 and over.
I would think that some of the $12,000 A YEAR he paid in support for over 9 years should have been enough to save some for college. He paid his dues so to speak, always paid the support on time, had insurance for them, etc. He told them straight up to pay for their own college. Is there something wrong with that?
ESL kids have a label =$$$. When the illiterate kids get a label slapped on them - they will get a
Most public schools do not teach children to read with intensive phonics. It has nothing to do with class size IMHO. The method of reading instruction is what determines if the kids will learn to read or not.
Consider homeschooling her.
Each child represents a $ amount to public school administration. As long as the child attends they get their $. They still get X amount of $ for each year they teach or do not teach a kid to read.
Their compensation is not reduced when they produce illiterate adults.
I believe my kids would still believe . .
had I not got totally busted by my 10-year-old son. My 7-year-old still believes. I always asked as my kids if they believe and when they said yes, I said that that is all that is important. My son caught me playing the EB last Easter. He said to me yesterday, "Come on, a giant bunny hopping around the country bringing easter baskets? How long did you expect me to fall for that?" I about split a gut laughing!!! However, both older children know how important it is to let the 7YO believe, we all watched Polar Express last night and they still were mesmerized!!!
I think a LOT of men are like that with kids
Maybe because since such a high % of marriages end in divorce, some of them keep a distance there. After all, when divorces happen, who gets the kids? Also, women tend to take charge when it comes to the kids and men tend to allow it. I truly believe that kids do not always strengthen a marriage but often the opposite. I have seen statistics stating that more couples with children get divorced than those who don't have any. Interesting, huh? JMO
That's why I won't have kids.
I have totally turned off the need/want to have kids, because I know my husband could never handle it. I don't want to be a single parent...especially a married single parent, know what I mean? It's an incredible commitment and they don't stay portable and nonverbal for long.
What do your kids
What do your kids call you and your spouse? Would you mind if they changed it, as in Mom instead of Mommy, as they got older? My kids call me Mom. If they call me Ma......I correct them, I don't LIKE it!! My son's GF calls me Mommy or Mom, I don't mind. My DIL calls me by my first name, I don't mind that either. I have a stepson, he also calls me Mom.
I do but only to keep an eye on my kids. NM
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Hello......if you want your kids to know...
about STDs and how not to get pregnant, YOU teach them. Why should there have to be programs about that at all? If you want them to have condoms, you buy them, don't ask the school nurse to hand them out. As to the genius of a President...at least he is trying. The one before him was hardly an advertisement for wise choices where sex is concerned ala black dress and use of cigars in a way that NO one ever intended...and committed felony perjury while a sitting President. Oh, but, heck....who cares, right?? Geeeezzz. Gimme a break.
Hello, yourself. If I had kids, I would...sm
Teach them those things. And if you're questioning why there s/b sex ed programs in school at all, why do you seem to be defending the current abstinence-only ones? They're worse than nothing at all because they give inadequate and downright *false* information. How is not having all the facts (or having the wrong "facts") ever a good thing? Just doesn't make any sense to me. If you want Bush to get credit because "at least he's trying" well, that seems like a pretty low standard for the president of our country.
Now as far as Clinton, I never said I was a fan. You're assuming an awful lot there. I don't even want to get into that.
I was one of four kids (sm)
and I was always wishing that my twin sister and I could have parents of our own. Living with mean older siblings was no fun!
Once again, your kids are still not that old
but when my son married, completely absorbed into not only his wifes life (which I am the first to say she comes first) but also her family and I basically just lost a son. Just swallowed up by her side and you would not know he really had a mother anymore. Quit trying on that end some time ago.
Especially with little kids
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Buy them, but keep away from little kids, sm
When my daughter was 2 or 3, she got her hands on one of the poppies in the back seat and must have pulled it apart and put the plastic middle up her nose. We didn't know in the beginning what was there, but after a visit to her pediatrician who couldn't get at it, a trip to the emergency room, a 5 hour wait for an ENT guy with the correct equipment to retrieve it, we discovered it was the middle of the poppy. Since then, whenever I see them selling the poppies, I tell them to warn parents with little kids to keep the poppies away from the kids.
I don't even have kids, and I
think that's coooooolllld.
It's really not nice to try to be scientific or philosophical with somebody who is going through a loss and expresses sorrow.
Did Jesus tell Lazarus' family, "Hey, dont worry about it; we'll all see him in heaven soon!" No, he took pity on them in their sorrow. That's how He is. Let's try to mirror Him, not philosophists and scientists when it comes to people who are hurting.
Probably more the kids
Love my marriage and don’t mind the divorces until I got it right. The kids are ok as long as infant, toddlers and then they grow up. Not my cup of tea anymore.
Kids going out
I have no problem with it, but there's always upwards of 10 children and at least 3 adults to supervise out all the time, but I would never let my youngest go out alone under any circumstances. We have a very quiet neighborhood, but you never know.
Some men have kids, but then
continue to spend as if they are still single. I can't believe how often I see this. They complain when the wife buys clothes, but when he buys something it has an engine and it's a big, dangerous toy!
That's why I can see why some women might want to hide money. Of course not all men are like that.
I used to buy my kids
those paint-by-numbers kits. Kept them occupied for a short time. Also go to a dollar store and load up on some new toys and books without spending a fortune.
She has kids as well
That was the deal - we were taking both of our kids to do something fun together.
kids
My DD (17 YO) has been getting her self up for years on her own. My mom bought her an alarm clock and she started using that to get up on her own. Now my DS on the other hand, is 20 and I still have to wake him up for work...go figure. I think girls are just more responsible that way.
kids...
I've had both of mine doing their own laundry for about 3-4 years now, since my DD was about 12 and DS about 15, maybe younger. My DD could take care of her own place right now (16 YO), but my DS (20 YO) is another story...maybe it doesn't have anything to do with gender after all...
kids...
Oooh, me too! They do their own bathroom, laundry, and bedrooms. I have my own to worry about. It hasn't killed them yet!
No kids, nothing
could make me stay around to be miserable. I feel most of the times I read these posts the women really do not want to live and use children as their reason for staying. I do not think I could ever say I have been miserable, that is really bad. Only you would be able to change your life and only if you want to. Good luck.
I don't even have kids and I still
wouldn't date somebody 20 years younger than me. I happen to like having a few things in common with my mate. However, 5 years younger instead of older would have its advantages, LOL.
Took my kids to see
Billy Ray Cyrus last night and have to admit it was great! That was their first concert and of course now, he is "Hannah Montana's Dad" They really had fun though! He actually sang Achy Breaky Heart while playing his guitar and barely wiggled a hip through the whole song!
Kids!! UGH!!
They can fill you with such joy and pride and then WHAM! You now understand why some animals eat their young.
I had a very similar experience with my braniac son who became a complete and utter imbecile freshman year of college over the girlfriend he was leaving behind.
What about this: Forget the phone, texting, IM-ing, etc. You can't control him and the more you try, the worse it will be. Your concern should be that he maintains good grades. You sit your son down and tell him you will continue to pay for/support him while he goes to the school he is currently attending. If he chooses to leave the school and give up the scholarship, that is his decision, but if he does that, he's on his own. You signed up to send him to school where he is now. He got the scholarship (for 4 years?), and he got a car. You can offer to pay for the new school where the girl of his dreams (this year) is at, the same amount you would be paying had he remained at the old school. Any costs above and beyond are his. If he does transfer, sell the car - he didn't keep his part of the bargain. I am assuming the car is in your name, insured under your policy. He has to learn to be a man of his word and has to suffer the consequences of not holding up his end of the deal. It is not the end of the world. He will/she will meet someone else and then you can enjoy a whole new set of dramas! My son threatened to pack up his stuff and hop the next train home if I didn't pick him up at school and bring him back. I told him you go right ahead and buy that train ticket, but you will need to find a place to live when you get back because the locks will be changed here. I have caller ID and I did not answer his calls for a while after that. As with you, this all took place first semester. He finally decided to "try" to tough out the year. A week later he loved school, broke up with the bimb...ah, girlfriend, and he's now in his 3rd year at the same college.
Time to put some responsibility on your son. You can offer advice, but punishing, demanding, etc. an 18-year-old does not work. Staying calm and rational and explaining consequences is far more effective.
Time to let go a little, mom, and put some of this on him. He's thinking with the wrong body part and he's only thinking about the here and now, not the next 3 years, like the majority of 18-year-old boys do.
Hang in there! Parenting is not for the weak. That drama with my son made me lose 5 pounds, 2 weeks of sleep and half a head of hair, but I did survive.
If she has 10y. IUD, how did he get 2 kids with her?
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did ya have kids w/him? If so, ask the kids...
if there are children with him, from him....they might want them...or another one of his relatives I would think.....
Congrats on getting remarried....
Everyone gets their kids SO MUCH!! sm
My son is 10 and had an XBox 360 on his list as well as a computer of his own...we told him both were too expensive. We told him we would get the XBox 360 as a gift for him and his sister to share and Guitar Hero III to go with it, but he didn't want to share. So we felt that if it wasn't important enough for him to be willing to share it, then it must not be that important. Our two kids got gifts that totaled about $250-300 each. Since then everyone we know has show us what their kids got for Christmas. Our neighbor's kids, ages 8 and 9, got iPod Nanos each and a Wii system to share! Another friend got her 7 year old a nice Karoake system and a laptop for her room. Half the fifth graders we know have their own computer and their own cell phone! What in the world!!!??
My kids get...
My kids get 3 gifts each because that is what Jesus got when he was born, which is what Christmas is all about anyway. They also will get 1 together gift for all 3 of them, which is usually a bigger gift. Last year was a trampoline and this year was a ping pong table. They know that, they are good with that, and they don't expect too much. I refuse to get my kids any game system because I have too many nephews who sit in front of the TV and play games all day long and don't do any physical activity. As far as cell phones, my youngest is 7 and wanted a cell phone for Christmas and I told her no. She is with me except for when she is in school and does not need a cell phone. My oldest got one of those disposable phones last year for Christmas and didn't use her minutes in time, which made me realize she only wanted the phone to say she had one. My point...do what your family can do and who cares what other families do. I feel the kids that get too much don't learn how to appreciate what they have and in turn expect more than life can give them when they are grown.
Kids and $$
They can sure go through it. I started mine off early. She has always had responsibilities that go along with the allowance because she's part of the family. Our incomes constitute family money, but chores, etc, constitute family responsibilities. Privileges are directly in proportion to responsibility. She is looking forward to her first real job, as she is already well aware that if she wants her drivers license, she will either pay the increase in insurance or be doing volunteer work to qualify for the larger state scholarship. She has always looked over my shoulder on budgeting, bill paying, etc. Around 5, we instituted the "Mommy credit card" because I wasn't fond of her carrying cash, and when she found something she wanted, I would buy it, presenting her with her "bill" once a month, including (very low) interest if she didn't have enough saved. It's a given now. We buy food, books, and pay for necessary school supplies. Anything else comes from her allowance. She has a separate clothing allowance, and with it, we find she has a better wardrobe for lots less money. At 13, she does an excellent job managing her own checking account (with debit card), helps out around the house, and goes to work with my husband when he has work on weekends. I have heard (not just from him) that she works her a** off, and it's manual labor. She helps with taxes and household budgeting, hubby's advertising and record keeping, and all sorts of stuff, so she gets a pretty decent allowance. Many of her friends are jealous of her allowance until they hear what all she does to get it. Is trying to negotiate a loan right now because it's pretty daunting to save up $600 for a software package she wants. She's a little over halfway there and starting to get frustrated. The kid is pretty good at this, too, because her negotiations include that she will also be able to use it for hubby's business, which should make it tax deductible, which should reduce her interest rate on the loan. I think she's going to get the loan, but she's negotiating with hubby (her step-dad), and I'm staying out of it.
Two kids
What ages are your kids?
17yr old son and 15yr old daughter
2. Do they have their own cell phone?
Yes, but neither got one until they turned 14. There was no need before because they were never in a place without an adult or access to a phone.
3. Do they have their own TV and or computer in their room? If so, are there set hours they're allowed to use these:
They both have TVs in their rooms but did not get them until they turned 12. No limit on watching time becuase it has never been a problem. They both have laptops they got for Christmas 2 years ago from Granny. My DH and I both have access to the computers and look from time to time to see what they are using them for. So far no problems.
4. Do they receive an allowance? If so, are they required to do chores to receive this?
No set allowance. They do have chores. They both had part-time jobs during the summer and were required to put a certain amount in savings. Then with b-days in Nov. and Jan. as well as Christmas they always seem to have cash. DD also takes care of my parents diabetic dog when they travel, which is quite often, and she gets paid very well for that and my parents will ask DS to run errands for them (sometimes I think they make things up) so they give him gas money and little extra for his time. We pay for things like field trips, annuals, etc.
You have kids, right?
I would be worried about the effect he is having on them as a role model. I think this is seriously hideous way of life (the animal abuse) to be showing your kids.
For many kids
I'd bet that the people that said "No swats!" had daughters, and no sons,, and said, "Oh my! That's not nice!" Completely missing that, sometimes, boys are not nice!
How do you tell your kids no?
Ugh... I could totally be jumping to conclusions, but I am afraid that my BD (bio daughter) is going to ask me tonight for a loan or something else that I will have to say no to.
I would love to be able to help her, but with all the uncertainty going on with my employment among other things, I just can't right now.
Even if I could (unless I just had money running out of my ears) I'm not sure I want to due to the "among other things".
It's a medical issue and she doesn't have the money to go to a doc. She has not asked me for the money....but she said it would cost her about $120 and she doesn't have it. We are IMing right now....NOW WHAT?
What I tell my kids
alumni solicitors and anyone else whom I want to maintain a friendly relationship: I'm not in a position to do that at this time. No further explanation needed.
Do you have kids with this man? DO you want him
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I have an LG and so do my kids...sm
When I went to get my phone, I had planned to get a pink Razr, but the girl at the store said they were junk. I figured she ought to know and ended up getting an LG Chocolate. I love it. Took a bit to get used to going from a flip phone to the slider, but I really like it. My kids both have the Envy 2 (know I didn't spell that right!) If I had known I was going to be texting as much as I am, I might have gotten one, too, because of the nifty keyboard.
believe it or not, some kids don't
quit no matter how memorable. My sister was like that. She seemed to enjoy the pain of a belt across her @ss. It didn't do any good. It even went to the point of family court because someone close to the family felt it was abuse to discipline my sister the way my parents did. I think after going through that experience with my family, I've tried to stay away from physical punishment. My parents almost lost everything because of a very stubborn child, and I now feel I'm being put in the same position. It's either him or me. One of us is gonna give in. Either he gives in and we live happily ever after, or I give in and he goes to the boys' home.
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