There are groups that have protested at people who have died of AIDS but
Posted By: Kathy on 2007-02-02
In Reply to: To Kathy - Canada - Dubious MT
I really do not know if same group or not. One person's name who comes to mind is Ryan White, the young kid who contracted AIDS through blood transfusion as small infant. What an horrific thing for a family to have to go thru, first a diagnosis like this to have a loved one die and then for people to say they deserved it? This world is really not right. I think it is only getting worse.
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I've personally sat down with groups of TG people
It was a therapy/support group that I attended with my son/daughter. I was the only parent there. My child was never molested or had any such issues you think are common to "gay" people you are acquainted with. None of the TG people I have spoken with expressed concern about any past abuse. The main issue that everyone had in common and kept discussing was the crushing rejection they received from society and their family. Many were shocked and envious that I as a parent was at the meeting, because their own parents would no longer even speak to them.
If a child is born with gender issues, we make it very clear to them the minute the issue arises that we don't want to hear it. We accuse them of making a choice and judge their choice is wrong, so we punish them, we try to silence them and make them stop the nonsense. So they learn to hide it and handle it alone. IF they make it through puberty without suicide, as adults they tell us it still exists and they must face it. What do we do then? Accuse them of duplicity because they faked being "normal" for so long (after WE forced them to), punish, ignore and hate them, cut them out of the family, weep and moan from the shame of it all and what people will think of them and us. We even tell them we'd prefer they were dead! Because we'd rather deny and eliminate our own child than deal with THIS problem. How very sad for us all. We need to focus on what is wrong with US that we would react this way to a loved one with a very tough problem. Only then can we work on how society sees it.
So for every transgendered person you hear of - know this - they are dealing with a horrible backlash from the people they love AS WELL as the gender issue. Most of them contemplate suicide daily (statistically 50% do commit suicide - the other half that die untimely deaths are murdered). Despise them if you wish, your opinion won't make it go away. The next transgendered person born could be your child or grandchild, your neice or nephew, your best friend's new baby. I pray they will each have someone in their lives that will love them anyway, who doesn't choose gender as more important than the human being.
Are there any church groups or other groups you can join? SM
The more you are around people you can feel comfortable with, the better.
I'm shy too. This field is very difficult if you are shy, since, even when I worked in-house, I was just sitting there with headphones on.
Also, another tip, having girlfriends are a good way of meeting boyfriends. It's difficult, I mean, socializing can actually seem like another full time job, but do it. You will be happier for it.
My plants died when husband still alive but after he died
surprisingly I grew lots of plants and still have them. My housekeeper says he was the devil and that is why the plants died. I was just as bad as you back then, killed artificial plants.
and hearing aids
a woman that my daughter works with forgot to put her hearing aids up in their case when she went to bed one night - and her dog chewed one of them up during the night. fortunately, my daughter wears hearing aids and gave the woman one of her old ones (she's on her third set and now has a set that is digital). Her older one worked perfectly - glad that headsets are not the price of hearing aids - or none of us could afford to work (1200-5000 a set)
Explaining AIDS
AIDS is a disease that is spread by blood contact. The particular act that male homosexuals frequently engage in makes them very susceptible to exchanging blood fluids with each other. The promiscuity issue increases the rate of spread exponentially.
There are plenty of other sexually and blood products transmitted diseases out there besides AIDS, and AIDS also is spread in the heterosexual communities too, along with all the other STDs.
That all being said, people with AIDS are still, 25 years after the discovery of AIDS primarily in the gay community, far more likely to be gay males than straight anything.
As far as I know, non-IV-drug-using lesbians still are in one of the lowest risk categories for AIDS. Kinda blows part of that theory while still proving the other part of the theory, doesn't it?
some of us remember Reagan's ideas on AIDS too
Yep, hated Reagan, arms for contras....Oliver North scandal!! Nancy was the president anyway!!! I liked her far better than Ronald!
I hear you- I had a friend dying of AIDS
that I lived with and helped take care of so he could die at home. There were times it was so stressful and uncertain that I would sometimes wish he would just die already. I felt like the worst person in the world for feeling that way but now I realize I am only human and I did the best I could.
I didn't know they had groups
I only thought this was for actors. Never thought to look up the group. Thanks.
Actually, certain religious groups have to earn their
way to Heaven by "saving" people - getting them to hear the salvation message and be "born again"...They keep a tally, and believe that God keeps a tally, and first of all earn their place in heaven and then lots of bonus perks - some jewels in crowns, certain seats at the big old banquet table, positions of authority, etc. In particular, the Jehovahs' W group focuses on this. Poor things - they want us to believe that Heaven is for everyone, while they are busy earning bonus points - sort of like the old Green Stamp days, or earning frequent flyer miles! So, they don't care that they are obnoxious and in our faces - they believe this is what they have to do, and it has its perks in their sick minds. Poor things. And I believe this confrontational style in any religion turns away far more than it saves - even THE savior was meek and nonconfrontational - he never forced himself on anyone - but some just don't get it...though they will some day.
Floaters in older age groups
are not uncommon. I have had these over a year but they have been having little babies today it seems like.
Thank you. I hadn't thought of MSN groups for that..
and I am definitely getting counseling ASAP..
Criminals should be divided into groups SM
according to crimes committed. Nonviolent or violent. To place nonviolent drug-related crime people in prisons with hard-core inmates is crazy. First time felons need rehab. Prisons are just making it worse. Ever see shows about prisons in Europe? Sheesh, like night and day.
By the way, I've never been to prison in my life and neither has anyone I know.
Have you looked for local rescue groups?
Sometimes local rescue groups will help you to get your pet placed in a good home. I would do this before sending her to the pound or placing an ad.
Music groups you are too embarrased to admit you like
Anyone out there love a musical group (or person) but are too embarrassed to admit it. You know, the kind that your friends make fun of but you secretly say to yourself, I love that music. - Mine are:
Village People
Glen Campbell (Wichita Lineman) - Excellent video on youtube
Bay City Rollers
And most all disco music (Bee Gees, Super Freak Rick James, Taste of Honey, KC Sunshine Band)
...oops! Have fun with it. Alternate the pieces in groups of 3, mix and match
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She died.
The vet looked through the records for these cats and they were apparently 4 weeks old when we go them, which made Little One about 12 weeks old. She still fit in the palm of my hand and weighed a pound. There must have been something genetically wrong with all of them. :(
Oh, that's why he died sm
I haven't been keeping up on the backstage stuff and wondered why he had to die. I really like the show. It kind of reminds me of Stephen King's The Stand, which is an all-time favorite of mine.
I say died. Died is died.
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My dog died while I was away....sm
I was at the beach this week and he'd been going back quickly, but you always think there's going to be more time. I knew he wouldn't see the end of summer, but I thought he'd be here when I got home today. I've been carrying his collar around in my pocket since my husband gave it to me when I got home.
They are now saying he has died. :( nm
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I also prefer died
tells it like it is. Expired just sounds dumb. I have not heard these in medical records but here are a few terms for disabled people I hate (I am disabled): Differently abled, physically challenged and - (gag) - handicapable. Who came up with these? Admittedly, crippled does not sound right anymore and handicapped sounds passe but just plain disabled will do.
My g'mother died in the 70s at the age of 75.
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It was very sad when my grandmother died
but she had lived a long good life. It was not a big party by any means, but we were looking at it from the side of she is now in heaven, she is with her husband, and she is no longer suffering any pain. I know there is always sadness and more for some than others. I knew what I wrote was going to be misunderstood. BTW, I am caucasian.
Bernie Mac died
It was sad to hear Bernie Mac had died. He was such a funny and talented comedian. I loved him in Transformers and Guess Who and heard his comedy stand up routines several times. He really made us laugh.
Unfortunately this is untrue - he has died
Don't know what news you were listening to but they were misinformed. Bernie Mac has passed away from complications of pneumonia. I wish it weren't true. He was very funny and from what I've read a very decent and humble and wonderful person in his private life. Will miss his good humor. I did love his routine about his sister's kids among others.
My father died when I was 21.
He was sick most of his life ... or at least during most of my life. He was a very sweet, gentle man, but he was always in pain and ill. As it happens, my family was just devastated in 1983. A dear uncle died of lung cancer that April. In May, my paternal grandmother with whom we lived died, my father died in July, and then another aunt who lived next door to us died that winter.
I have to say that as bad as that all was, the one thing that I was able to take forward with me was how to deal with death. After that point, as young as I was, I knew exactly what it felt like to lose someone, then to have to continue on and make funeral arrangements, stand in receiving lines, etc., etc. There's sort of a ritual to it all that is actually comforting. At least to me it was comforting. So from that point on, I had real empathy for others going through similar losses.
I think you've hit on why you feel that you are falling short in comforting your daughter. You said you haven't experienced this sort of thing in your life. One day, you will, unfortunately. It's part of life. But until then, it might help to talk to your friends or relatives who've been through it. You can gain insight from their experience.
I can tell you that there is really nothing to be done about the feelings. A person really does just have to experience them before going on. Your daughter sounds as if she is very in tune with her friends, who are going through such a horrible time right now and certainly have a long way to go yet. No doubt, your daughter is frightened about the thought that this could happen to her, as well. And she also would like to help her friends. I, too, tend to withdraw under stress. If your daughter is that sort of personality, then it might be difficult to talk to her. Just let her know that you are sorry and will talk to her when she is ready. But if you can talk to her, I would suggest you simply acknowledge that these sorts of things are extremely difficult to bear, seeming impossible. But that just being available to her friends will be a huge help. She can simply send a card, note, email, even a text message to say "I'm thinking of you." You can set the example by sending a card to the your daughter's friends and their families.
That sounds so simple, but it's actually huge, because when you go through times like this, so often you feel alone. Knowing that others are thinking of you can be so comforting. I can remember when my father died, I felt like I was walking in a bubble, separated from everyone but still there with them. I'd walk down a busy street, people moving past me, talking, doing their normal things, and all the while my whole life had changed. Yet, I know I looked completely normal. It was a strange feeling, one I've had more than few times in my life. I felt as if I had a gaping wound in my chest, yet as I walked down the street no one would notice it. It makes you feel very separated and alone.
So if you can offer any advice to your daughter, let HER know that she's not alone, and tell her that her friends need to know that, too.
My niece died from
obstructive sleep apnea at 37. I did not see at my father's funeral. I was not called when she died. My brother's wife called my first cousin and he passed the news on to his mother (my maternal aunt) and maternal aunt called me. I had no idea (being as my brother did not speak nor want me in their lives) that the niece had gone thru so much. My aunt and I went to the funeral home and funeral and the mother told me about what kind of life she had, drugs, alcohol, prison - yes prison. No one ever told me and this was about 3 times she was in prison. I never knew anything about these kids coming up. The mother told me the niece did not have insurance, could not afford CPAP. I would have bought that had I known but like I said, brother made the decision to NOT have me around and I went along with his wants. The only heirs would be my brother's children, not his wife, not ever. I am sorry you do not tend to understand this but this is the case. In the years since 1973 no one from that family called until nephew in jail in maybe 1986 or 1987. I never heard my name called by Aunt on the first part of it. Only sibling I had. I have complete peace of mind and sleep like a baby. After my brother died with his children being 4 and 6, his wife could have reached out to me then, did not happen. All water under the bridge, long time ago.
I was nine when Elvis died,
but it still had quite an impact on me, and I remember, as do most, where I was when I heard the sad news. I was never one to watch the royal family very much, but I must say that I felt devastated to hear of the tragedy when Princess Diana was killed, and had the same sort of feeling when John Denver went home.
I was about the same age when Elvis died...sm
I remember listening to his funeral on my radio, which at that age it still strikes me as odd as I probably was not a fan of his music. Just one of those moments in history, I guess.
I also remember getting up at 6:00 a.m. to watch Princess Diana get married, and I remember when she died, I was kind of embarrassed at how impacted I was by that. I guess somehow maybe I wanted to be a princess even in my adult years.
Don't remember John Denver so much but anyone a Chris Ledoux fan?
CNN says she's dead - died at the hospital....
found unconscious in a hotel room. So sad that she had such a wasted life.
I think she died of a broken heart.
She said in an interview awhile back that if it wasn't for her baby, she'd be with Daniel whereever he was. She wanted to leave this earth.
This whole thing is so sad - like some horrible made-for-TV-movie.
It's confirmed our baby died ...sm
3 weeks ago. I'm having a D&C tomorrow since I haven't had the spontaneous miscarriage.
my father died at 96 and worked til 86
I'm so sorry for your loss! Mine also died of (sm)
acute renl failure, and was only a 4-yr-old Persian. His problem started with a urinary tract blockage that almost killed him. An amazing vet saved his life, but apparently the damage was already done to his urinary system, and a month (and $2500) later, he had to be euthanized. :( After reading about Persian cats' predisposition to UTIs, blockage, and renal failure, and the role food can play, I blame myself for letting him have Meow Mix dry food - not as a staple, but just as a hand-fed, occasional treat. Especially since this cat would NOT TOUCH wet cat food of any type - another risk factor. I now have a new Persian, and this kitty gets ONLY Royal Canin Persian 30 dry cat food, and immediately after the recall I threw away any Nutro Max wet cat food I had. (I was lucky - she wouldn't eat it anyway). Their kibble is supposed to be a high-quality food. But since my little flat-faced kitty also finds the shape of Royal Canin easier to pick up and chew, in addition to the fact that it's formulated for Persians, that's the only dry food I'll feed her. For wet, she gets a mixture of Fancy Feast and Friskies Prime Filets.
Thanks for the info. about lilys (?-what's the plural of lily, anyway?) Aloe vera is another poisonous one. Actually there are MANY! (You can find lists on cat websites, which you probably already know.) I play it safe and keep ALL live plants (except kitty grass) outdoors, and have only plastic plants indoors. (An upside to that is the plastic ones are easier to keep alive, too!) ;D
Had a friend whose husband died
and she had grown children but I know she was not able to collect his social security at 50 - she had to wait til at least 60 before collecting on his. She had never really worked at job where she could make her own living and she was in a mess, had to take sales position in a dress shop and nearly went under waiting.
I know there was a reason my baby died...sm
but that doesn't erase the heartache of losing a life that was created. I've always heard that losing a child is the worst pain anyone can endure and certainly agree. I've buried a fiancee in the past as well as other close friends and relatives but the pain from their deaths was different than this one.
Thank you to those that have responded. I know I'll get through this, hard as it may be.
my Pop died early 2005-have never gotten over it
But some of it He does allow to happen - my friend died (sm)
of lymphoma and left behind her six month old baby. She never had a single normal day with her child as she got sick during her pregnancy. Many of us prayed so hard. Maybe it was God's will for her to die, I don't know, and I know that we don't understand everything he allows. But he DOES ALLOW things. Her illness had nothing to do with people being evil. I am a Christian, as in I believe in God and Jesus, but I don't pretend to understand everything, because I really, really do not understand.
Update on dog that died from heatstroke sm
Way back in July (page 13 down below-find Calling Animal Rescue) I reported a lady who tied her dog outside in the blistering heat and I found it-well, it died of heatstroke. Anyway, I have been dilligently checking on this because I want to see this lady prosecuted. Meanwhile, she went out of town to another shelter and got not 1 but 2 more dogs. Really ticked me off. I went to my vet with one of my dogs for its checkup and he was the one that treated this dog that died. He wouldn't talk about it, of course, but I did say, "Doc, I know you treated that dog, can you please get on the stick with the paperwork" and he just looked at me and said "why". "Well, doc, I found that poor dog and watched it cook from the inside out-I want to see those people rot in court-I'm the one who officially reported it to the police". So anyway, he did just that! The police were there at this lady's house and confiscated those two new dogs and fined her for lying on her application to the shelter-said her other dog died of old age. Now it's in the hands of the states attorney. So, after sticking my neck out several times, I am finally going to see something happen. I hope they call me to testify. I gave one heck of a statement that day. It pays to be persistent.
Love the pic. My golden who died 2
months ago LOVED the snow and would always run out in the yard, stick his whole head in and then do a slow dive and wiggle around in it. Thanks for the great memory.
Ledger died from overdose
The people are saying sad, sad way of death. They are calling accidental death by abuse of prescription drugs. You know, this was a grown man. Who takes medicine in such volumes including Hydrocodone, Valium, oxycodone, etc. that do not know what happens if you make cocktails? You can be a druggy whether it is prescribed to you or not.
For a couple weeks after my dad died, - sm
both my mom and my brother saw him either walking in the hallway or working at his desk. They said it was very clearly him, and they had no fear - they knew he had just come back to be sure everything was OK, and that my mom was running his business correctly!
Paul Newman died...RIP. nm
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Just heard she died. Such a shame.
I really hope they catch this guy.
She died less than a year ago. He's supposed to
pretend it didn't happen, deny it, ignore it, etc.? Then you'd be on here calling him cold-hearted. I wish people would leave their personal lives out of it... IT'S A SINGING COMPETITION. I happen to loooove his singing.
Ed McMahon died during the night
Probably because of all the stress caused by his injury and stress from his recent money problems.
So sad.
Michael Jackson has died (sm)
All the major news shows reporting that he died of cardiac arrest.
Fox News website now says he has died.
"after reports of a possible heart attack."
It is sad...and unbelievable they both died today.
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My cousin's dog died because of one. The battery went dead and the dog got hit by a car. Very s
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she died of sepsis. May have something to do with the birth in the Bahamas. sm
She may have developed an infection and it turned into sepsis. I knew a girl once who had a miscarriage, developed sepsis, and almost died 6 months later. She was weak (she may have attributed the severe depression to her weakness from the death of her son), and this just reminded me of that gal I knew. She (the girl I knew) finally went to the doctor and they immediately wheeled her to a room and began IV antibiotics (she, too had developed extremely high fevers), and the surgeon said that had she not come to see a doctor within 24 hours she would have died. And this was MONTHS after the miscarriage....So, just a theory. The doctor on CNN also had this theory - maternal something. I can't remember the diagnosis....
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