The older guys, unless cross dressing
Posted By: Jen on 2007-02-26
In Reply to: Why does it make a man feminized if he enjoys things - Wannie
or otherwise, would never think of burning candles just like they would not take bubble baths. I think your sexual preference is whatever you want but I do not, for me, want a metrosexual (I want facials, skin care, pedicures - you get the picture) man. As an older woman, I just like total masculine myself for a hubby, don’t want to second guess why he is using my makeup, candles, fingernail polish and the like. Any time you have to guess like the post did, there is probably more underlying than you see on the surface.
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No you cross a bridge to get there - not far enough out (sm)
to warrant a ferry or plane. But it is truly surrounded on all three sides, and you couldn't wade or swim across...lol. It is a port town, and they have a huge shrimp boat festival there every year with all sorts of artsy vendors and such. There is an old saloon there called the Palace Saloon which was supposedly the old hangout for pirates and smugglers who went through the area. Here are a couple of links if you are interested in reading or seeing pics :)
http://www.tcpalm.com/tcp/travel/article/0,2547,TCP_1041_5116693,00.html
http://www.fbfl.us/index.asp?NID=54
did it cross your mind that if sm
you sty you are abusing your child and setting yourself up to be hurt? Get out now ND worry about it later. If he has been doing this for years why don't you already have enough proof? Have you been doing the wishy-washy thing all along? There is no excuse. You re no better mother than he is a father and husbnd if you continue to keep your child there.
I hitchhiked cross country twice when...
I was a teenager....and survived!
No way...driving cross country just as..
we do every year. DH and I take the month of May off for vacation and drive a Ford Explorer. Yes I have a large vehicle and no I don't feel guilty about having it It comes down to being economical in other ways. We use a credit card for the whole trip for gas and hotels, etc and get a 5% rebate. The vacation money is already put away in the bank so when we get back I just write a check for the bill. We have some of the highest gas prices here in the west and always figure it is a treat to head east and watch the prices drop a bit.
Someone once cross-stitched a beautiful
personalized picture for me that I will always treasure. She put it in one of those hoops and I hang it on my wall. Something personally made by you like that would be special but I also agree with flowers and a nice card like the other poster said.
I love cross stitch, to look at. I don't see well enough to do it myself sm
but I sure think it is pretty and there are several things I would love to have for my house. I could translate them into English smocking, which I can well, and put them up. I have a couple of Pullen pleaters and that helps. I have a baby dress for my mom's reborn doll I am doing right now and she wants that smocked.
dressing
To each his own. I wish I did like cornbread dressing, but I absolutely do not! My best friend wouldn't fix anything else. As far as bread goes, I toast white/wheat bread in the oven first. Add ground pork, ground beef, celery, onions, garlic, 1 bunch of fresh parsley. Very good!!
If you cross your eyes, they'll freeze!
My mom told me that if I kept crossing my eyes, they'd eventually freeze into that position. I believed her, but I was a defiant little girl, so I'd stare at her and cross my eyes just to push her buttons. I figured that I might have at least one more freeze-less eye crossing in me to make her mad, and if they actually did freeze, then I'd just cross that bridge when I came to it!
By the way, I'm 45 and she's 77, and my mom is still telling me that if I cross my eyes they'll freeze that way! And I'm still crossing them just to tick her off! :)
I moved cross country from Nebraska
to Phoenix. It was the best time of my life. I actually lived in Mesa and the cost of living was suprisingly reasonable. I had a really nice condo for around $700-800 a month, 2 bedroom, with it's own laundry room, covered parking, etc. I worked in Phoenix and the highway I took wasn't all that bad from what I was expecting. I eventually moved to Scottsdale, but the cost of living there is fairly high, but beautiful. I loved Phoenix because it was just hours away from the Cali so I could visit the beaches on the weekends and also just hours away from Las Vegas. It's a great place to be single and I made so many new friends there so quickly. At the time, I was also single and no kids. It's supposedly the best city for singles. Good luck on your search. I envy you a little bit as I love traveling myself...
Hitchhike cross-country and get outside of my office
I would go from state to state and have a great time! To bad I am older and married.
Did it ever cross your mind that HE'S using YOU as a meal ticket?
So now it's you that has more money than the younger hubby. Hmmmm...food for thought, but perhaps I was off base earlier and it is, in fact, YOU that is the meal ticket in that power-couple relationship of yours.
Better stick with that guy for as long as he'll tolerate you. Today's younger guys like their women independent and enjoy EQUAL relationships.
If I were you, I'd peek into his cell phone on occasion. Ya know, just check the incoming and outgoing call lists. He might already be shopping around for a less expensive model, something that requires less upkeep and doesn't consider community property 'hers'.
Cranberries in dressing sm
I put finely chopped fresh cranberries in my Pepperidge Farm Seasoned Bread Stuffing (here in NE). It is a dried bread with stuffing flavoring in which I added cranberries chopped in my food chopper. I also substituted either apple juice or orange juice for the water. I did at one time use Swanson chicken broth instead of water but since I gave up greasy food, I could taste the grease, so I substitute juice. I also sometimes add raisins. People love my stuffing. I bake it separately in a casserole dish for about 45 min. at 350 or until the top starts to brown a little (not too brown). I also add finely chopped celery and 1 small finely chopped onion, 1 stick of low-fat margerine or butter (the butter does not taste greasy).
hair dressing
Check your closest beauty supply store. I think you may be looking for what is called a "hair dressing." They smell good, come in light to heavy. I use one on my "babies" who have extremely curly hair. They are biracial, but do not have the coarse black African hair. Their hair is just extremely curly and the hair dressing adds shine and moisture, not oil, to their hair.
YUM, my mom's dressing balls.
made with different varieties of day-old bread, onions, celery, S&P, chicken broth and poultry seasoning, formed into balls, brushed with melted butter and baked until crispy on the outside. DEELISH!!
Red Cross told me excessive tea drinking could cause anemia.
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Several 2 and 3 day trips and DH and I take all of May off and drive cross country...can't wait!
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I'm older than dirt, too, and older
than the 2 posters below me.
I remember when gas was $.25 a gallon when I got my driver's license and first car.
The first car my dad had was a LaSalle with running boards. After that, he bought all Hudsons and then Ramblers. He never owned a Chevy.
My first car was a ི Chevy, green and White, that my dad paid $12 for (cost of the tag). My uncle gave it to him and was a stick shift. I never drove an automatic until I was 20 and bought my own car with my own money. I paid $1500 for a ྀ Rambler Classic, 4 door (my first 4 door, too) in turquoise blue. My dad was mad because I didn't pick the Navy blue and white stick shift Rambler because it was cheaper.
My allowance was $1.50 a week and to make money, I chauffered all my friends around plus to school and back for $.25 a week.
And, I just turned another year older on Monday. Ugh! Thank heavens, no one in my family wished me HB. I quit counting 20 years ago. 
country club dressing sm
Just attended a wedding at a country club. No matter where you go, everyone dresses differently. I would wear a dress or nice pants & top with some jewelry if you have any. Some of the men had suits and some had just a shirt and tie (with slacks, of course!). I wore a plain short dress with a jacket handy because the place was so air conditioned, and a nice necklace, nylons and a slight heel. Everyone was dressed differently. Just make sure your hair looks neat, your crowning glory, then the rest of you will feel just fine. I think since it is your family, you may feel better if you just look neat with a little jewelry that's in your budget. They are very fortunate that you are celebrating their milestone. Wearing a smile and taking lots of pics and giving a copy to the couple will put you high on their list. Have fun!!!
Look at this Southern Dressing with Cranberries
http://www.mycookingblog.com/post/1-empebi/6916/Southern-Cornbread-Dressing-with-Cranberries
I just said yuck to the cranberry dressing
Don't understand why you read more into yuck! Unbelievable!
Formerly from Jersey, up there called it stuffing, down here they say dressing - HUH?
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try italian dressing powder packet that you mix yourself. sm
i marinate for about 3-4 hours in this and then grill. tastes really good. you'll have to mix it with vinegar. read packet and mix as directed and then marinate in it.
Salmon with Makoto ginger dressing
This was our dinner tonight. DH made the salmon on the grill. Put it on foil with salt and pepper on low heat on the gas grill, he says. Total time on the grill was around 25 minutes (big, thick pieces), and about the last 7-10 minutes he put the dressing on with a brush. The thick part of the dressing stayed on top and the thinner part ran down onto the foil and carmelized the bottom (skin) side. We had fancy bread and sweet potatoes (microwaved with skins on) with it.
Salmon is so good for us, but the flavor is too strong for me unless it is doctored up to smooth the flavor down. This was fabulous. If you like ginger, try it.
You misread my post. I was saying the usual dressing (since that is what they sm
call it down here) with added cranberries. I have never made it like that. I was saying that sounded yummy. I can't believe you got offended at this post. Unbelievable.
True southern, never had dried cranberries in dressing.
Yuck!
Someone posted a recipe for baking chicken in bbq sauce and Italian dressing... SM
Does anyone have that recipe? I am making chicken tonight and need something that I can throw together and stick in the oven while I'm working. I haven't cooked in a couple of days and the natives are getting restless for a home cooked meal!
Hard-boiled eggs, shredded cheese, olives, dressing of choice.nm
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I love tuna with the mayo on salad with hot and sweet peppers and creamy italian dressing. YUM!
Just had to share - it's delicious.
I love the dressing and I love lemon pie..sm
My mom's lemon pie that is. I also love this dessert called Texas Delight or some people call it different things but is is layers of chocolate pudding and cream cheese and whipped cream. The food is my favorite part besides the watching my son open presents on x-mas.
If you are 30 or older.
If you are 30 or older you will think this is hilarious!!!!
When I was a kid, adults used to bore me to tears with their tedious diatribes about how hard things were when they were growing up; what with walking twenty-five miles to school every morning ... uphill BOTH ways.. yadda, yadda, yadda.
And I remember promising myself that when I grew up, there was no way in he*ll I was going to lay a bunch of crap like that on kids about how hard I had it and how easy they've got it!
But now that I'm over the ripe old age of thirty, I can't help but look around and notice the youth of today. You've got it so easy! I mean, compared to my childhood, you live in a dam n Utopia! And I hate to say it but you kids today you don't know how good you've got it!
I mean, when I was a kid we didn't have The Internet. If we wanted to know something, we had to go to the dam n library and look it up ourselves, in the card catalog!!
There was no email!! We had to actually write somebody a letter with a pen! Then you had to walk all the way across the street and put it in the mailbox and it would take like a week to get there!
There were no MP3's or Napsters! You wanted to steal music, you had to hitchhike to the dam n record store and shoplift it yourself!
Or you had to wait around all day to tape it off the radio and the DJ'd usually talk over the beginning and @#*% it all up!
And talk of about hardship? You couldn't just download porn! You had to steal it from your brother or bribe some homeless dude to buy you a copy of "Hustler" at the 7-11! Those were your options!
We didn't have fancy c rap like Call Waiting! If you were on the phone and somebody else called they got a busy signal, that's it!
And we didn't have fancy Caller ID Boxes either! When the phone rang, you had no idea who it was! It could be your school, your mom, your boss, your bookie, a collections agent, you just didn't know!!! You had to pick it up and take your chances, mister!
We didn't have any fancy Sony Play Station video games with high-resolution 3-D graphics! We had the Atari 2600! With games like "Space Invaders" and "asteroids" and the graphics sucked a$$! Your guy was a little square! You actually had to use your imagination! And there were no multiple levels or screens, it was just one screen forever! And you could never win. The game just kept getting harder and harder and faster and faster until you died! Just like LIFE!
When you went to the movie theater there no such thing as stadium seating! All the seats were the same height! If a tall guy or some old broad with a hat sat in front of you and you couldn't see, you were just SC rewed!
Sure, we had cable television, but back then that was only like 15 channels and there was no onscreen menu and no remote control! You had to use a little book called a TV Guide to find out what was on!
You were sc rewed when it came to channel surfing! You had to get off your a$$ and walk over to the TV to change the channel and there was no Cartoon Network either! You could only get cartoons on Saturday Morning. Do you hear what I'm saying!?! W e had to wait ALL WEEK for cartoons, you spoiled little rat-s!
And we didn't have microwaves, if we wanted to heat something up. We had to use the stove or go build a frigging fire ... Imagine that! If we wanted popcorn, we had to use that stupi*d JiffyPop thing and shake it over the stove forever like an idio*t.
That's exactly what I'm talking about! You kids today have got it too easy. You're spoiled.
You guys wouldn't have lasted five minutes back in 1980!
Regards,
The over 30 Crowd
I am older than most and what I would do
is I probably would not like the idea 1 bit about his growing hay, I believe you said, on her property. Surely there would be another place besides her's that he could do this. In my last marriage, 2 women (1 was my boss at that time) had affairs with my husband. Both women were welcomed into my home, big mistake and 1 a neighbor, 1 an ex-boss. This just does not smell like a good situation to me at all because first of all you have concerns up front. You should basically listen to your inner self. If it seems wrong, usually is. I would not befriend. Remember doing that for my new boss in town, visited in her home, shared my hubby's knowledge of things to fix around the home with her and pretty soon even the husband.
Older than you and what I think
I have been married now for close to 10 years and still honeymooning so I just do not get 2 years and already looking but having said that, he probably will continue to do this. I would not mind so much his looking but probably might take it further with maybe meeting up with someone? Your spending a night away would do nothing for the relationship- this would just give him more time to spend on the computer and he would. There are a lot of men who like porn but if it is something that would bother you, cut your losses while you can because he probably would not change- after 2 years of marriage and already looking?
Probably older. LOL s/m
We have "Grapes of Wrath" in our movie library. When I'm feeling down about the economy, I get it out and watch it. I pray to God we don't see anything like that again but I fear we are headed in that direction.
LOL! i know i'm getting older! sm
usually i'm right on time. i know exactly when i'm going to start. i know exactly when i'm ovulating. sometimes i think i'll be glad to go through the change and not deal with this any more. but i know going through the change isn't fun either.
i did start, finally. figures, once i buy the test, i start! haha!
merry christmas everyone
I am and I'm a little older than you.
I am just finishing my first semester back to college after 20 years! OMG, what a shock. But I'm glad I did it and I really like being back in school. Go for it!
or it could be that he was older than God...nm
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I say that all the guys go and just keep the
ladies. I am so not liking the guys this time. Have watched it every single year and there is not a single solid 100% guy there this year. Hoping the girls will do better??? They have the guys beat every which away. There is really no competition here.
are you guys serious????
having a garage door open during the day on a nice day I would hardly call that out of the ordinary or stupid...once again, conversation taken out of context...
Thanks you guys
I only have Wal-Mart here and have not seen it there, but don't go often because they infuriate me. For Prell, I guess I'll suck it up and drive on over there and check. I miss cork too. I miss soda bottles that you returned to the store (when we were broke we just went to the garage and loaded them up and there we were, had enough cash to buy food until payday). Then we had more money and our son did the same so he had cash for things kids have to have, like popsicles and more soda, maybe a slingshot or a pack of beebees for his air gun. Now, it is sad there are only cans and bottles that are worth nothing in this state, we just leave them out to recycle. Big woop. Kids hardly ever have air guns anymore and you can't trust anyone so don't let your kids walk to the store to take back the bottles to buy popsicles. I can't wait to get some Prell! It is like insurance against color grab on the ends of your hair! All you do is shampoo it up on the ends and let it sit awhile and then rinse. Even color comes back most of the time. It smells like my mom too. Sigh. Have you noticed that there are 80 gazillion types of shampoo on the rack at the grocery store sometimes and none that you want? I still say to try that got2B brand shampoo called Squeaky Clean. It smells like heaven and makes your hair clean for two days and shiny too. I am really into that shampoo and magic erasers. They are two of the few things left that are really useful. It is sad to be so old that Magic Erasers sponges turn you on admission. I guess it beats the alternative to being old. Oh cute, I have the TV on the news and there is a pig named Broccoli who fell into a pool in Tracy, California and the firemen had to get him out. He is so cute! He is black and white and VERY BIG. Hayseed needs to see this. Broccoli's owner is petting him and he is so glad to be alive and saved from drowning! Maybe we need to get ourselves a pig. They look really friendly and smart. Maybe we could teach them how to type. My friend has an English bulldog who skateboards like the one on Youtube. His name is Meat. He is a sweetie, but ate a whole couch once when they went to the store. I guess I will stick to smaller dogs and check out the CC&Rs here in case I get a pig too.
Thank you guys
for such encouraging words. I sat in on the consult today with the doctor. They are going to keep my friend in the hospital for eight to ten days under observation, but they feel he will be fine. 
Guys are just different than us
Some guys are just more aroused in the morning than at night. If I wanted sex (morning or evening) like you are saying you want, I would not mind either time. I know you are probably young and cannot understand this, but there are a lot of people who have absolutely no sex, and I am one of those- not by choice, but my husband has erectile dysfunction because of diabetes and high blood pressure. He has tried so many things he has read about, not like he does not want to- I am in his corner come hel. or high water because I love him so much. We have closeness and I cherish him beyond words. I probably would say not having been married a year, you or both of you need some kind of counseling in order to work through the problems that are coming through. Just being together a year, you should still be in the honeymoon period. Starving yourself, let me say this- a guy does not care if you are skinny or heavy in the bed, they only care about 1 thing and it is not a figure or lack of. I was married the first time, no organism and finally reached 1 with the 2nd marriage. People do not climax each and every time- some people do continuously, everyone different.
old guys
This is so funny. And yes it does sound like a Marine. I can just picture my step-dad saying these very words and he served in the Marines in Nam. Thanks for the smile!
Thanks guys!
Well you guys made me feel a little better. At least I know I am not the only one. Funny thing is we are both very young, he is 29 and I am 26 and we have been married for only a year. I thought we should still be super hot for each other right? Oh well, it is not me, it is him. The things women have to put up with.
ok,you guys, I had 3 of these and one
girl. I do remember people always saying girls matured earlier, and in some ways that is true. But there was a study with MRI's that definitely showed a lack of frontal lobe growth in boys until much later than girls. Don't worry, they will all be humanoid again in their 30's! LOL
Thanks guys
for all the helpful hints. I think you are right. The bottom of my thigh touches right at the chair edge. This is where I feel discomfort at times, and then my foot will fall asleep. I think I am going to try some of your ideas and see if it helps. It is just so darn uncomfortable and it totally drains me. I am exhausted at the end of my shift, more so than just transcribing. Thanks Again!
Thanks, you guys.
I appreciate all of your support, everyone. Do you sometimes feel like you're walking around with a big red D on your forehead? I do. My own church kicked me off the music team because "divorce is a sin, and God hates divorce." That has been harder on me than the divorce itself is. The ex still attends that church, and everybody feels "so sorry for him" because mean ol' me left him. They don't know the reasons I left, and I will never tell them....but believe me, they are Biblical reasons. It's gotten to where I hesitate to tell anyone at any church I visit that I'm divorced! Another thing, how do you cope with the fact that your long time friends (who are all still married) suddenly act like you have the plague? Maybe I'm being too sensitive. I'm sure you're right....it will get better with time.
Wow guys
wonderful responses and so quickly. I hope we can keep this thread going to help each other out. I wrote down these ideas and am going to start implementing many of them right away. Here are some of my ideas:
1. Utilities - We had 2 cell phones, got rid of one, which was mine, and I hardly ever used it. My husband has to have his because we run our own business. We had 2 house lines, one for our house phone and one for a fax machine. We got rid of one line, and kept the fax line, converting it to accept phone calls as well as faxes.
2. We heat our house with corn which in Northwest Indiana is a pretty cheap way to go. It will cost us approximatey $600.00 to heat our 2600 sq ft house for the winter. We would normally pay almost $450.00 a month with our heat and electric if we paid or electric company who has a monopoly in this area; no where else to go. :-(
3. I used to throw a load or two of laundry in every day, no matter how big the load (I have an energy efficient washer), to save time and so the laundry did not pile up. However, I realized that I was wasting soap, softner, and water even though I have an energy efficient washer. So, I am doing laundry only 2 days a week, maybe three if need be. Washing bigger loads at a time.
4. In regards to above, I use my dryer as a time management issue, because I run the office of our business during the day and transcribe at night. I think I will implement hanging my clothes out next summer, because I do not think it would be efficent in the winter right now - - would it?
5. I buy all snack foods at Aldi's. You save $1.00 to $1.50 an item. I shop at the most least expensive store in the area when possible, only shopping at the higher-priced stores if there is a sale.
6. Turn off lights, computer, etc., when not in use.
7. I buy my cleaning supplies and laundry supplies at our area dollar store. They carry name-brand items as well as generic-brand, but quite a bit cheaper.
I am brain dead now. I am sure there are many more.
Please keep them coming. There were many things that you guys mentioned that I never even thought of, and I am sure we can give each other good ideas to implement. I feel we are in a war here, and we need all the ammunition we can get as we carry out our role as our home managers :-)
Thank you guys so much for your
We really appreciate the support.
I wanted to share a picture of Chewy with you . . . I had wanted to get a picture of the five of them, all lined up getting treats from Daddy, heads turning in unison watching his every move . . . 
Where are you guys?...
I have a vacant house in Port Orchard and wonder if I need to be concerned.
Thanks you guys. I can't tell you how much I appreciate
this place and the ability to vent and have you guys listen unconditionally. And thank you for being so kind with your advice. I know what I did wasn't good and almost immediately regretted it. But you all are right, what's done is done, and I should just focus on my family and friends who do want to be part of our lives.
Just a followup, in case everyone was wondering about reaction to my email, I've received two responses. One from a daughter-in-law of my FIL's wife who offered her ear and her prayers and also told me that she has always wanted to say the same things. The other response I received was basically "shame on you for airing your dirty laundry" and told me I sounded like a bitter disturbed person which I guess I am.  For right now anyway.
Thanks again, you guys are the best!
I think guys like this should be PUT DOWN.
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