The View. Dress or jeans?
Posted By: MT2 on 2008-03-27
In Reply to: Luv luv luv John Cusack Regis and Kelly or The View - trose
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Me too. I am best at 125. Fit into a 5 jeans
But with the winter and stress, I am in a size 8 and had to put my jeans away. I am losing weight by increasing my metabolism and trying to walk every day, and should do sit ups. Also eating way less since spring hit. Those pounds creep up and stay though now that I am over 40. Man what a difference a few years make. Embarrassingly, though I wanted to cinch my waist because I am sick and tired of my dresses barely buttoning so I got one of those firm cinchers and tummy tuck (i.e. modern day girdle). I sore I'd never do it, but it is taking too long to get the weight off. I figure, maybe if I find a really tight one I can get into those jeans again. Ahh, midlife crisis... it is nothing but grrrrrrrr. LOL.
Jeans....
7 for all Mankind jeans because they have just the right amount of "memory" fabric in them where they have a bit of stretch and don't get binding, and at the end of the day look like you just put them back on (plus the pockets are positioned so your backside looks great, too). It's still kind of chilly and rainy here, so it's the 7FAM jeans, sweaters from Old Navy and Ugg boots until the temps manage to climb above 70 degrees. If I get cold, my fingers start refusing to move like I want them to, lol!!!
What do your jeans say about you?
A few days ago, George F. Will wrote a column telling americans to grow up and stop wearing jeans.
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On any American street, or in any airport or mall, you see the same sad tableau: A 10-year-old boy is walking with his father, whose development was evidently arrested when he was that age, judging by his clothes. Father and son are dressed identically -- running shoes, T-shirts. And jeans, always jeans. If mother is there, she, too, is draped in denim.
Writer Daniel Akst has noticed and has had a constructive conniption. He should be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom. He has earned it by identifying an obnoxious misuse of freedom. Writing in the Wall Street Journal, he has denounced denim, summoning Americans to soul-searching and repentance about the plague of that ubiquitous fabric, which is symptomatic of deep disorders in the national psyche.
It is, he says, a manifestation of "the modern trend toward undifferentiated dressing, in which we all strive to look equally shabby." Denim reflects "our most nostalgic and destructive agrarian longings -- the ones that prompted all those exurban McMansions now sliding off their manicured lawns and into foreclosure." Jeans come prewashed and acid-treated to make them look like what they are not -- authentic work clothes for horny-handed sons of toil and the soil. Denim on the bourgeoisie is, Akst says, the wardrobe equivalent of driving a Hummer to a Whole Foods store -- discordant.
Long ago, when James Dean and Marlon Brando wore it, denim was, Akst says, "a symbol of youthful defiance." Today, Silicon Valley billionaires are rebels without causes beyond poses, wearing jeans when introducing new products. Akst's summa contra denim is grand as far as it goes, but it only scratches the surface of this blight on Americans' surfaces. Denim is the infantile uniform of a nation in which entertainment frequently features childlike adults ("Seinfeld," "Two and a Half Men") and cartoons for adults ("King of the Hill"). Seventy-five percent of American "gamers" -- people who play video games -- are older than 18 and nevertheless are allowed to vote. In their undifferentiated dress, children and their childish parents become undifferentiated audiences for juvenilized movies (the six -- so far -- "Batman" adventures and "Indiana Jones and the Credit-Default Swaps," coming soon to a cineplex near you). Denim is the clerical vestment for the priesthood of all believers in democracy's catechism of leveling -- thou shalt not dress better than society's most slovenly. To do so would be to commit the sin of lookism -- of believing that appearance matters. That heresy leads to denying the universal appropriateness of everything, and then to the elitist assertion that there is good and bad taste.
Denim is the carefully calculated costume of people eager to communicate indifference to appearances. But the appearances that people choose to present in public are cues from which we make inferences about their maturity and respect for those to whom they are presenting themselves.
Do not blame Levi Strauss for the misuse of Levi's. When the Gold Rush began, Strauss moved to San Francisco planning to sell strong fabric for the 49ers' tents and wagon covers. Eventually, however, he made tough pants, reinforced by copper rivets, for the tough men who knelt on the muddy, stony banks of Northern California creeks, panning for gold. Today it is silly for Americans whose closest approximation of physical labor consists of loading their bags of clubs into golf carts to go around in public dressed for driving steers up the Chisholm Trail to the railhead in Abilene.
This is not complicated. For men, sartorial good taste can be reduced to one rule: If Fred Astaire would not have worn it, don't wear it. For women, substitute Grace Kelly.
Edmund Burke -- what he would have thought of the denimization of America can be inferred from his lament that the French Revolution assaulted "the decent drapery of life"; it is a straight line from the fall of the Bastille to the rise of denim -- said: "To make us love our country, our country ought to be lovely." Ours would be much more so if supposed grown-ups would heed St. Paul's first letter to the Corinthians, and St. Barack's inaugural sermon to the Americans, by putting away childish things, starting with denim.
(A confession: The author owns one pair of jeans. Wore them once. Had to. Such was the dress code for former senator Jack Danforth's 70th birthday party, where Jerry Jeff Walker sang his classic "Up Against the Wall, Redneck Mother." Music for a jeans-wearing crowd.)
My jeans are never blue and
I only wear black Gloria Vanderbilt, wonderful bit and look, have to look hard to even associate with real jeans.
Dress
Every year they change the rules in those bride books. At my daughter's wedding, which was semi-formal, but outside (????? is this congruent?????) the mother of the groom wore white! My one pet peeve is that the mothers not wear white too! However she is a tacky woman, so what should I have expected? She was given the color scheme and the bride's mother has first choice, was asked not to wear white or pants, but not only did she wear white, she wore pants! May I add that she looked ridiculous because she chose some hippie-dippie flowing cotton things that would have looked okay at a parade or a yard sale, with huge pantaloon legs and wore flip-flop like sandals. (Pain is still coursing through my body from this faux pas 12 years later). But, having done this before more than once I found that at Nordstrom's they have wonderful salespeople and great dresses and they will bring you things to the dressing room that suit you and your budget just tell them basically what you want and what you want to spend. Stay away from bridal stores, they try to sell you "bridesmaid dresses" and will ooh and ahh over you even if you look like a clown and most of the dresses show too much skin or have ruffles and bows attached in all the wrong spots if you are over 23. I took my daughter whom I trust to know me and what I like as well as what looks best on me. Good luck! Hope your new in-laws are more fun than mine! They are still tacky, but then I rarely see them! 
Red dress or no dress.
Having a guest book attendant is popular in the South and is supposed to be an honour. Here is a website with some info but it does say coordinate color somewhat.
Given the circumstances, if she really felt uncomfortable with what you are wearing, I would keep it pleasant, it is after all her day and you might feel the same way if in her shoes. I myself would just explain to the bride (especially if you were asked to hold this position until the last minute)...
"I am honored that you have asked me to participate in your wedding, but since I was not expecting this, the red dress is the only one that I brought with me and I honestly cannot afford to purchase a new one right now. If you are still uncomfortable with me wearing this however, I would truly understand if you would like to choose someone else for the position."
That will leave the ball in her court. If she wants to offer to buy you one, so be it. The choice is strictly hers.
Wikipedia had some interesting info on the colors. Red for auscpiousness meaning luck or promising, and how white was originally for mourning and blue was the color associated with purity.
It should not matter to her as long as you don't outshine her. If anything guests will be talking "bad" about you not her, and in that case I wouldn't give a flip!
How about help her with a dress? sm
The dresses are extremely expensive and maybe if you could help financially with the dress of her choice, that would make her day the most memorable as well as beautiful pictures. She basically needs to feel like a queen.
You could pay for her to get manicure/pedicure, buy her jewelry, pay for picture setting at a photography studio, or school pics if someone else is not, pay for her to get her hair done or makeup done.
Ultimately, you cannot control the eating that day and activities unless you teamed up with her date and coordinated that with him to make sure he could afford a really nice place or pay for it for them.
I would suggest you going down and setting up a time before their prom activities to take some really good photos of them, play ones, serious ones, etc depending on their relationship. Just went through 2 proms recently with my DD and our pics we got are way better than any of the school pics. Sending them to Walmart to be printed as soon as I figure out what I want! Their pic packages are really reasonable. You could even put together a photo album of pics for her for later of her special day. Email me if you like, we have some adorable pics of my DD.
Bridesmaid dress
My cousin is getting married in a few months and is in the process of picking out her bridesmaid dresses. Her dress has cranberry trim on it, so she wants our dresses to be that color and she also wants them to be long. I went to the boutique with her and she showed me her top three choices.
1. floor length satin, strapless with a straight skirt.
2. floor length chiffon and satin with spaghetti straps, also with a straight skirt.
3. tea dress (mid calf) satin with a butterfly beading design, netting under the skirt, bow tie spaghetti straps.
If you were the bride, which dress would you pick for the bridesmaids?
Really, what do they dress like, the Amish?
Or wear a burqa/burka? LOL
Complete with red dress...
Weddings have become such shows...it's ridiculous! I've been to 2 weddings in 2 weeks, neither one too showy, but just money spent on silly little things (no programs!) like bubbles to blow at the bride and groom, which no one was left by the time they left...candies with their names on them, etc. Boy, can't wait til my DD gets married! 
I'm drunk enough now to tell you that you may have my dress,
but you will never have my hat!!!!!
He didn't see me in it, but he saw my MOM in the dress.
I wore my mother's dress, and her wedding pictures were displayed in our house. So he saw the dress before we were married. I don't think that counts. :)
Deep Purple Dress
Bridesmaid dresses in a deep purple. Not sure if I should go for metallics- gold or silver or stick with black? The wedding is in the afternoon in church and a reception at a golf course. What do you think?
Dress code for students?
Our school system is looking at implementing a strict dress code for all students...khaki pants and solid colored collard shirts (basically a polo shirt) but no brand-names are allowed. My children hate the idea..ages 14 and 16. Any opinion on this?
Your dress code is not being followed apparently,
because you yourself state your neice wore shorts too short and your son had to change his shirt. If your school had uniforms, these would not happen. Any disruption, such as having to pull this child or that child out for breaking the dress code or other things disrupts your educational system, understand?
I don't remember my dress size
being asked on any job applications. Are they supposed to be able to tell over the phone? Of all places to say this - around a bunch of people whose employers have, for the most part, never seen them!
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Red dress attendant at wedding
Just got back from vacation and saw the post about bride not wanting red dressed attendant at wedding. Getting past keeping the book part (some know about it, others do not, some agree, some do not) but I am talking the red thing. First of all, anyone wearing red is usually saying LOOK at me. The bride has every right in asking anyone in the wedding party NOT to wear red. This is her day- NOT anyone elses. It falls under the same thing as no one wearing white to the wedding- that is supposed to be reserved for the bride only. Wearing red would be about the same as wearing sequin dress and I guess also most do not know you should not wear black although I see women doing that also at weddings. I think the problem now days is most do not know manners - I recently saw the most outlandish dress for a funeral, bare arms, bare midriffs, very short skirts, capris and/or bermudas. Any request a bride makes for her wedding for her attendants SHOULD be followed to HER liking, not theirs. Any who disagree with this post really just do not know etiquette but should brush up on theirs - try reading Emily Post to begin with.
Jo got married and all we got was this bleep dress!
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dress mani or pedi
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Why do some thin women dress
like hoes? I'd rather see the outline of a roll through an ill-fitting shirt than see some girl's entire butt crack. That's just NASTY.
Anyone been to a wedding on the beach in Hawaii? Need help w/ MOB dress.
I have already posted this on another board, but I need all the suggestions I can get, and I appreciate any and all help.
My friend has asked me to help her shop for a mother of the bride dress. She really has no idea what she wants to look for, and she has done no looking on her own. We are going to go shopping not this weekend but next. The bride said for her to just pick out a simple dress. The wedding is mid March, on the beach, and they say the temperature is 70s-80s year round there (I wouldn't have known this myself LOL). I don't know the colors they are using yet, but I'm sure she does by this time.
What kind of style should we look for? MOB is 48 years old, slightly overweight but not terribly so, and relatively conservative. Any suggestions? Thanks! Y'all seem to have great taste.
Some Georgia schools have dress codes...sm
and they work with school uniform vendors to provide them really cheaply, around $7-8 for each shirt and each pair of pants or shirt.
My daughter goes to a school with a dress code and it's nice not having the "what is OK to wear to school" discussions in the morning. It also eliminates kids who come from poor families feeling inferior to other kids over their clothes.
RE: Help on mother of the groom dress - see message
I'm only 47 and don't want a "matronly" dress. Wedding is in 6 weeks and I need help. Any suggestions?
single digit dress-size here
oops, well I guess I failed - i have 2 children, although do have second generation middle class values.
A tea-length basic black dress?
What kind of company does your husband work for? Would that help in your decision? My opinion is you can't go wrong with black. Accessorize to make the dress "pop". Nicely of course. Congrats to your husband for his award.
If it were MY child, I'd buy her a pretty dress to wear
You bigots are appalling.
Who's jealous? I'm not overweight. I just choose not to dress
like a prostitute, or someone proud of their anus hairs - lol. I've obviously struck a nerve with you though... Don't worry, you'll grow out of it someday and realize you're worth more than that.
my view
What if your daughter was a smoker? Would you allow her to smoke in the house simply because she can smoke at school?
That said ... ask your daughter for the name of the rock group and CD, and then do a Google search for the lyrics.
I need a view from the outside
What to do about a family member who accused me of something that was totally untrue and too hurtful to even discuss, and that person's birthday is in two days. We had a heated discussion and I asked for an apology and got none. I have never, ever let her birthday go before. My mom is elderly and I don't want her hurt by this. What should I do? I am so angry I can't see straight right now and hurt. This an immediate family member, not extended. Do I suck it up once again and send a card and then show up at her dinner? We usually go out for our birthdays. Would be interested in any comment you might have. Either way it does not seem like the thing to do.
She's on The View right now
Just another view.
Where do one persons right to choose trump another persons right to choose. If this were a government run pharmacy, I could see requiring sales of certain items or medications. However, if it is privately owned, my right to choose to use birth control does not trump another persons right to decide what is sold in someone's privately owned store.
Another view
I believe I stopped having themed parties when my daughter was about 11 or 12, but when we went to see family, they took her and me out to dinner or lunch, had birthday cards, cake, or a special meal at home--maybe some money if they could afford to do so. One reason might be the cost of gifts that older children have come to expect, also the fact they become more choosy and harder to please about styles of clothing, as well as "toys." I had a friend who gave her children elaborate Easter baskets until they married and left home...that's what she liked to do--and that was fine! I just could not afford to do what she did for her children, ever, for any occasion.
It's remembering a special day that counts, not the party or gifts; I'm thankful my daughter learned that earlier than some and is passing that viewpoint on to my granddaughter.
it was a blue dress firstly and Clinton lied
She's mad that you'll usurp her presence in your flashy red dress! LOL..put the
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My above-the-knee little sparkly black cocktail dress! - nm
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The view - new host
I saw Roseanne on the view a few weeks ago and she seems to have really mellowed. But to watch her everyday - no way. I think she would turn into a Rosie or worse. I would like to see another younger person on - perhaps a bit older than Elisabeth - but someone definitely in their 30's early 40's and someon who doesn't begin with an agenda. Then I might watch again.
The View Update
Well, they were both on today and they're still together. She's moving to Hawaii and they are still engaged, but they basically said they had to fall in love all over again away from the cameras so there's no wedding date.
Did anyone watch The View this--sm
morning and get the name of the book/author Whoopie was talking about? It was "The Education of???" It is about a young Indian boy and his life. It was an Ophra book club book until she found out the author (who is now dead) was in the KKK and she pulled the book from her list. We live in Cherokee, NC and my kids are into tribal life.
so true - especially considering my view
in house was no windows and cinderblock walls in a hospital. Love the birds of prey - have a lady here that rehabilitates and I have seen kestrels, vultures, red-tailed, barred owls, great horned owls and more up close and personal. Just saw a huge hawk overhead- freaked me out - haven't seen him around - couldn't train the binoculars fast enough but he looked bigger than a red tail.
I can see it from that point of view though (nm)
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How'd you like to have this view from your bathroom?
The presidential suite bathroom at New York's Mandarin Oriental. The 2,640-square-foot suite rents for $14,000 a night.
a different point-of-view
If you don't like your SIL, why would he want to help you? Is it possible you've conveyed this dislike of him through your actions to him or that your daughter has shared your feelings about him with him? If so, then I can see why he wouldn't feel obliged to help. More than likely, he feels like he's being used. If he's not good enough for your daughter, why is he good enough to help you move?
a kid's point of view ...sm
I just had conversation with a fellow Sunday School teacher about what GIFTS would be good to give this kids this Christmas. At one point this gal asked her son (12 yrs. old) if he had any ideas what the kids would like to get. His response "gee, mom, I thought Christmas was about GIVING, not getting." Out of the mouth of babes, right? !!
Maybe it's adults who get too hung up on what we do or don't do for gifts, activities, etc. Bet your children are just glad to have a good mom !!
Not from CA, but what about a fancy sun dress and a sparkly wrap of some sort for the AC/night
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I think your view does not generally match
up with most.. She looks like a real gold-digger to me. What about others out there?
My view of Hayley was if you've got it SM
flaunt it. However, the evening she wore that halter top with her boobs jiggling all over the place, was a bit much. If they jiggle that much, you need to have some type of support, and they claimed she was a devout Christian. Yes, Christians can wear skimpy clothes, but no jiggle please.
Yes, I'm probably just jealous! LOL!
Rosie Leaving The View
Just watching The View. I know a lot of you wil be happy. Rosie just announced that she's leaving The View. I didn't catch exactly when she was leaving or why, but she did mention her children as a factor.
It's about time! Now I can watch the View without ...sm
getting annoyed when she starts her tirade and turning off the TV. My lunch time will now be pleasant again!
Thank you so much for sharing your point of view (sm)
I really appreciate you sharing your story. His dad is in the picture but they are polar opposites. I do have a couple of questions I want to ask you but I better get back to work for now - I'll ask later and hopefully you will check back and won't mind answering. Thanks again!
Whoopie! New co-host of the view is
Whoopie Goldberg!
I know am going to watch again!
Rosie just turned my stomach. Blechhhhhh.
Good job, Babs.
They were on the View today, did exactly same dance sm
with the slap included. She wasn't outraged, she was acting/dancing.
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