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That's an interesting form of punishment

Posted By: at the end of my rope on 2008-08-26
In Reply to: Oh and DON'T back down. Make sure he follows through sm - MeMT

Something I might try the next time.  I agree that 4 hours was a little a harsh, which is why I gave in after about 30 minutes.  I will say that he was pretty good the rest of the day.  He had 1 time when he started to rough-house with his brother and it ended pretty quickly when I reminded him that he could sit on the chair again, this time until his dad comes home.  He quit pretty abruptly.


Thanks for your input.




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Apologies seem to stick with my children; my boy has had to apologize to his teacher for misbehaving and guess what, no problems since. I think making her apologize is appropriate and will humble her enough to never have to worry about it again.
Harsh punishment but . . .
like you, I don't agree with this sort of behavior at all. But what recourse does the school have? These days, kids communicate widely via the internet. When one child writes something evil or threatening about another child in a blog or sends bullying emails, parents go straight to the school and ask that something be done about it. In the same vein, shouldn't the school do something about their own teachers being bullied? Most schools now address this sort of thing in their parent/student handbooks.

We can leave this up to the parents, but sadly, lots of parents aren't doing their jobs, either monitoring their children's activities online or teaching them appropriate social behavior. In and of itself, this one comment about a teacher isn't so threatening, but the bigger picture can be pretty upsetting.

I have a friend whose teenage children drive me insane. I can barely keep my mouth shut around them. I would love to sit them down and tell them how obnoxious they are. They are profane and will curse in front of adults and then tell us that we're just uptight and "what's the big deal". Many times as I speak to my friend on the phone, her children will start a conversation with mom while she is on the phone to me. That's rude in itself, but the foul-mouthed comments about their teachers, etc., are horrible. Mom does nothing about it, in fact, she joins in with the remarks. In recent months, I hardly talk to my friend on the phone anymore, because these sorts of things were happening nearly every time I speak to her on the phone. That may not be relative to this situation, but it's an example of the kind of "support" that schools get from parents.

I think the school has to have some say over what the kids are doing online with respect to school, but 10 days total suspension is an awful lot.
Well, I for 1 don't think the punishment fits the
The school is waaaaay over-reacting. Suspension for 4 days? Come on, he didn't hit his teacher out of anger, just kidding around.

Oh, well. Maybe you should have him write his teacher a note of apology. That might help with his relationship in the future with her.
I have found the best punishment for kids is
to do hand them the exact opposite of what they want to do. For example, does he love to go outside and play? Then he sits in his room without anything like his television, telephone, just 4 walls. If he is a couch potato then he spends time outside, even if just sitting under a tree and thinking about things. I always punished children/grandchildren with the opposite of what they loved to do. Works like a charm.
My father one time decided this was the punishment for my son
Had him write 200 times I must not ...... My father laughed as he told me when my son got through he said, "Now paw-paw can I do it again?" What works for 1 does not necessarily work for another.
I use the liquid form...
fabric softener and have not had any problems. I stopped using those sheets years ago.
you can do the Where's my stimulus form
on the IRS site
I don't think so. There is a disclosure form...
that mostly asks specific questions and none about death. The disclosure form is to disclose potential structural problems with the house, easements, past flooding, etc. I don't know why a death in the house would be relevant unless the body were left there to stink. I might be wrong, though, because I am really not sure.
It is a form of theft
There is something wrong with these people who feel they have to clear the table of sugar and/or sweetener and especially the ones who decide to complain to the manager at the end of a meal that they had no trouble eating just to get the meal for free or at least discounted. My niece waited tables in a fairly nice steak house chain and she said it happened more times than you could imagine.

And then they gloat about it later! They should be ashamed.

principal should not have signed the form
if the student was not allowed to go. By signing the form, he gave permission. Therefore, the student should have no problems getting his diploma. He has the principal's signature saying it was okay to go, which is better than words saying he should not go.
Signing in, yes, but have to bring a form
filled out and signed by the other school's principal? That's a little over the top. If it's about permission, they should ask the parents, not the other school anyway. So strange...
abstinance is the best form of birth control there is--sm
as opposed to killing babies. JMO. Besides coffee is bitter smelling and so is this. Wake up to life!
I filled out the form tons of times, but
then would never actually stick it in the mail.. I think I tried that coffee once & it was really good.. me and dh quit drinking coffe, I'm more of a cold weather person with coffee, but I have a Starbucks Mocha frapp every morning, or in the afternoon (if I have to get up and leave) but I stick it in the freezer & let it get slushy, yuummmoo
It is sold in pill form for weight loss,

so I would take it that way.


She may be asking about it as a form of birth control, too. Time for "the talk." 13 is NOT too
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It sort of does make a difference when they use it as a form of birth control...
just my opinion.
Very likable and nice, as long as one stays away form politics
especially if one belongs to the other party, lol.....
Not withholding as punishment - withholding as a reaction (sm)
Maybe it does exacerbate the problem - but I have dealt with the problem for over 13 years. I gave in for years hoping it would help. Now, I don't care if it exacerbates the problem - unless something changes in the relationship and I feel like I want to be with him in that way, I am not doing it.
Precious! Many places will have state-to-state drivers form a chain
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Well, sorry but it's been the most interesting
and humorous thread on this board in a long time! lol
That is interesting! (sm)
My son and his girlfriend (early 20s)wizzed through it in a day.

My daughter, who just turned 20, wants to savor it, just like you. She is so sentimental because having just turned 20 and with this being the end of the HP series, she feels it is the end of an era of sorts. I believe she began reading HP in her first teen year, so this book was with her throughout all her teen years.

The other 2 are chomping at the bit to talk to her about it, but she's just taking her time...

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Wow, that's interesting
and something I never knew. My husband works at a car dealership and we lease very three years. I love getting a new car every three years. I'm due another one in December. On the other hand he has an older car that I'm sure we'll keep for sometime so we don't have another car payment.
interesting you should say that
My sister did this also when she was younger and she has such guilt from it. Years later when she found out she was pregnant, she had a lot of emotional issues; all related to the abortion. I think she feels deep down she was not deserving because of the choice she made so many years before; very sad to watch someone you love go through.
That is SO interesting.
I was born/raised in Miami-Dade. I moved when my son was entering HS and my daugher the 4th grade, a little over 10 years ago.

I left because of the educational system and because I couldn't afford to buy a house there.

When I read in your post that your kids did FINE, I thought to myself, that's because you are probably an awesome parent and your kids are probably pretty good by nature as well.

I'm sure mine could have gotten through it, but I would have been a basket case (single parent).

I moved a couple hundred miles north of Miami, then about 4 years later to a small town in N FL when my daughter was to enter HS, again for educational reasons. Not because the educational system was great, but because of the small town atmosphere, etc.

She did so well and she didn't get lost in the shuffle, although I doubt she would anywhere (very headstrong, vivacious, outgoig and involved). Anyhow, she's about to enter her 3rd year of college with a 3.8. Needless to say, I'm pround. I feel I was a good parent, but I give her most of the credit for just being a hardworker and good kid by nature (God gets the credit for the good by nature part, me thinks!).

I guess I digressed.... Just wanted to say, way to hang in there and congrats on raising kids in Miami LOL. I know it is possible to succeed in the face of a poor educational system, but I do believe it is harder and a challenge. I really don't think all the blame should be put on the educational system, though, because from what I saw when my kids went to school there, there was a problem with parent involvement, participation, or even knowing their kids existed. It started to become the school's responsibility to do everything basically for some of the kids and discipline was more of a concern than education. Which is why I left. My son had a class where 10% was teaching and the rest was the teacher yelling at the students.

And no, there was no spanking there. It was the small-town school that did the whoopins.

Again kudos for getting through it!
I don't get what's interesting or different about that. nm
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Not at all interesting...
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Wow, that's really interesting! sm
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That's interesting
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Interesting, thanks.....nm
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The worst job because it was so boring was when I worked for the Wall Street Journal as an advertising secretary and there was nothing to do but answer the phone a couple times a day and type a letter or two a week. I started going to night school and would do my homework all day at work. Boy, would I love a job like that now!
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You have said something interesting
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An interesting example of AI
See link below.
Interesting
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I think it's just going to fizzle out PERIOD but the pharmaceutical companies want to get their big money windfall from people's fears.

Interesting!
I will have to put Alka-Seltzer in my list of tricks for this. How did you think (or hear) of that?

I know the acid thing is not supposed to cure it (but only help prevent it), but I swear lemonade cured mine once.
Yes, he IS quite interesting...
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Interesting article...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15769975/site/newsweek/
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Very interesting article........

Here is the link........


http://www.newstarget.com/022096.html


I find it very interesting that
one small comment about something can offend people so quickly!
VERY interesting! I had an older get get the same - sm
symptoms you describe after a minor procedure under anesthesia (teeth-cleaning). She wobbled around for 2 days, then I took her back. She was very dehydrated, so they gave her a shot of water under the skin. Don't know if that's what helped her, but by the next day she was better, and the day after that she was fine.
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SIL, not so strange but interesting.
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They should have gotten Tom Bergeron.