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Stealing then giving to charity?

Posted By: unbelievable on 2007-08-21
In Reply to: Do you believe this story - ??

Used the stolen money to make donations to churches?!?  Who does she think she is - Robin Hood?  Or was she thinking on judgement day she could say "Yeah, I did some stealing, but I gave some of it to God, so its all good"?!


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we were a charity...LOL!!
it was end of the week stuff like milk, juice, etc. she only brought home the "good stuff" at the end of the summer. getting those groceries really helped my parents sometimes!
How do we pick a charity
I am wondering how to we pick a charity. Is there a list somewhere or do I have to find the local website? I would love to donate to animal shelters in my community, but not sure how to select it so funds would go to them.
Can you give time to a charity?
Ever since I started helping out with charity events around Christmas it seems that I love the holiday even more. Maybe help the Salvation Army collect money/toys or hand them out? I saw an interview with Ann Curry where she said that giving around the holidays helps her, too. That it's hard to be sad when you see all these people who are going through terrible times. You become grateful for what you have. It worked for me. :)
But those things are clearly charity organizations -
I am looking in my tax law book for a class that I just took and it says "to be deductible, the donation must be made to a qualified recipient as listed in the tax law, including:
1. (Does not apply)
2. domestic organizations formed and operated exclusively for charttable, religious, educational, scientific, or literary purpose, or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals.

You might can pass it off as an organization for the prevention of cruelty of animals and then you can deduct it.
I am not codoning stealing...
I simply meant that over a course of 15 years you never stated things of value were stolen.  Any time you invite someone in your home to do work for you, you cannot expect them to hold back and not take anything, no matter how trivial - it's human nature.  Why don't you get a service where they are bonded and usually two or more people?  By the way, $70 is NOT a lot of money to pay for housekeeping.  I live by myself in an apartment and pay 134.82 but I have a service.  If anything gets broken or stolen I just pick up the phone and call their manager. 
stealing for scrap
Just this last week there was an article in the paper that someone stole 300 bronze vases from a local cemetary.Isn't that the lowest?
People don't want to be FORCED to give charity. sm
People don't want to be TOLD that you WILL give up some of your extra for the other guy. Charity should be voluntary, and many see these programs as forced charity.
but if she is charging for her services, then she is not a charity and would not qualify -
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I'd pay it, otherwise I'd feel as though I were stealing which just isn't right. Karma wil
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buy for someone who it makes happy, like a child in a charity situation
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Stealing child: How to break the habit??? sm

We have a 6-year-old foster child whose birth mom had a stealing problem.  Our 6-year-old has had several episodes where she was caught stealing both before she came to live with us and since moving in with us.  Conversations with her about it being wrong to steal, talking with the caseworker, psychologist & even a policeman have helped but occasionally she steals something from a store anyway.  The last episode was this weekend when she stole some nail  polish when my husband turned his back for a moment, even when she was being allowed to buy some lip gloss she was wanting.


Does anyone have any ideas of how to get her to stop stealing?  I've talked to the local juvenile court system and all they said was they couldn't do anything unless she is actually arrested.... which of course we're trying to stop.  Of note her biological mother had a problem with being arrested several times for stealing and even though it's not documented, we suspect that this child would see her mother steal or her mom had her steal at times for her.   There are plenty of times we can go into a store without problems with her, it's only every few months she steals.


Thank you.


Of course! Stealing? That's the oldest trick in the book. lol
I guess she figured what does she have to lose if she thought she was dying. :(
speak of spooing; ever see Stealing Harvard?
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Caught my housekeeper red-handed stealing from me
My household is small, just hubs and myself (with 2 pets). Hubs went out of town to visit his brothers, left early Saturday. I got my housekeeper of say the past 15 years or more to come clean up for me yesterday. Knowing that I was having a doctor's appointment today I had laid out fresh underwear to put on (this is unusual because most times I am without my undergarments but thought I better wear panties today). I put them in my first dresser drawer Saturday night, went and picked her up Sunday, started to lay out all my clothing Sunday evening and my undergarments gone. I am literally ticked beyond belief. I am about to lose a housekeeper- my husband told me for sometime that things were going missing such as things he bought, toilet paper, some forks and spoons, things like that which I normally do not see. If I let her go, I have to do the work myself (she does washing besides housework) but yet I cannot let this pass. Any ideas? I do not think I would be able to get anyone for what I pay her but cannot stand the fact of being stolen from - especially since if she needs something she could ask and I usually get for her. Ideas??
No, but I hate my lying, stealing, sociopathic brother. Does that count? NM
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Both! JK, actually considering giving up
coffee and wondering if Morning Thunder has caffeine or not.  I love my coffee, though. Don't know if I can do it.
Giving

Two years working as a missionary overseas has taught me that material things are really not important.  Do not hold onto things with such a tight fist.  I guess after see children begging in the street for food daily kind of changes your perspective.  Oh and then the women who washed her clothes on a rock made me vow to never complain about washing clothes in a machine. 


Forgive your husband.  His giving nature is more important that a rolling pin.  A fire, like those in Califronia, or other natural disaster can cause you to lose all of these things.  Things really do not matter anyway do they?


Have a nice Thanksgiving, and be thankful you can afford food to use a rolling a pin on.  So many people in the world cannot. 


 


giving up the
The older I got the more I got these symptoms from too many dairy products. Once I cut back the bloating went away. I think the sitting just makes it more noticeable because you cannot get away from the smell! (hope that is not too graphic:)
holiday giving
What you are doing is a wonderful thing and I understand your hurt feelings. Perhaps next year you could channel your energy into giving where it would DEFINITELY be appreciated. Regardless of whether or not you support the war in Iraq, there are many of our troops there who would love to receive a card or care package for the holidays. There are plenty of needy children here in our country who could use a card or gift for the holidays. Why not give where it is wanted and needed? Your church can give you the name of a needy family for you to help at the holidays. You have many options to chose from. Pick something that will make it feel good on both the recipient and the givers side??
Have you tried giving some fluids?
I have a shih tzu with diabetes. When is sick he will get close or under my knees. Listen to him he's trying to say I'm sick. Try feeding him some rice with a little chicken in it, something bland or even canned pumpkin, not the pie filling. Good source of fiber in both diarrhea and constipation for dogs and humans. When mine was sick the other day I got a syringe and would give him grape flavored ProPel water by gatorade, about 1 oz at a time every hour or so and then sooner as long as he kept it down. Just enough to keep from getting to dehydrated. Dogs can go down really fast when dehydrated yet some vets say they can go awhile without food/water. Not if already dehydrated though. I would recommend going on petpeoplesplace.com forum you can get some good advice with people with same breed or problems. They also make something called Rescue Remedy for anxious/nervous dogs you might check into.
I am glad everyone is giving their sm
opinion.  I value that.  I told in the past to work with us. If it is a specific thing, like a late movie, concert etc we can be very flexible, but to just hang out at someone's house or ride around town it is not necessry to be out past 1 a.m.  Her 21 year-old sister agrees with me which is surprising.  Her friends don't have curfews, but they also did not get into college either.  I told her she can bring anyone home.  She told me these are not the kind of people you bring home.  Last night I caved in and told her 2 a.m.  She did come at that time but I kept waking up untl then.  I got up at 7 a.m and it is now 9 a.m and she is still sleeping.  I have to admit at19 I did not have a curfew but I was always home by 1 am because I know my parents expected us to be respectful.   THANKS AGAIN. 
I never knew they had that! Thanks for giving
me JUST ONE MORE snack to try!!!  LOL.  
What about just giving from the heart?
Why put such a price tag on something so trivial?  Jesus is the reason for the season! 
Received none, but instead of giving one (sm)
which I planned on doing, after seeing something on the news about them, I just decided to give cold, hard cash (no complaints, btw). Anyhow, the news story said that stores profit greatly from them since people lose or forget about them, or buy more than the value of the gift card. So, I decided to just buy 50 one-dollar bills for my son's GF for a better effect LOL.
And that is precisely why they are giving it to
They are trying to stimulate the economy. They WANT people to spend it. They don't want you to put in in the bank. That's why they are not giving it to people who have money.

Re handing out money to people who don't file... that is incorrect. They do file. They just fall below the income amount to pay taxes.

I would prefer to be in a tax bracket that gives me less of this handout than one that gives me more.

Anyone giving up anything for Lent??
I'm going to be brave and say no to candy for the next 40 days!
Gift Giving
I just got married in July 2008, bought a new home, and am now expecting my third child in April 2009 so we ourselves have had many blessings this year but our financial situation is also pretty tight. We will not be buying gifts for anyone but our children. Our family will receive homemade treats this year. We still like to do something nice for them because they have done so much for us this year and every year but we don't have a lot of money to play with.

In my case, we take care of our obligations (bills, our children, etc.) before we worry about "gifts". We feel that providing our children with things that need and the love that they deserve is more important than any material gift will ever be. Our family understands our situation and is very happy just to spend the holidays with us without the expectation of a gift because honestly the quality time with family is the biggest gift we could give each other.

In my opinion, you should just explain the situation to them and let them know that you will not be giving gifts this year. They may take it hard but they will get over it. You have to do what you have to do. Gifts aren't the real reason for the Christmas season anyhow.

Good luck to you!
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OK, I'm giving it a try again, except for the shoes.
I cleaned my sink last night and will keep that clean. Got up this a.m. and got dressed and ready for the day, which does indeed make a difference in my attitude. The only thing I won't do is wear my shoes in the house. This is something I've never done. It's not a cultural thing, it's must a me-thing. I'm always in socks in the house and keep my Crocs by the door for quick trips outside to mailbox or garden. The only time I wear shoes is when I'm out and about. This is something I've done all my life, and it just feels very weird for me to have shoes on in the house.
I would think 15 is good if you're giving her something else with it.
However, $90 for cut and color is inexpensive? I live in a pretty expensive area and basic color generally runs around $35 to $40 and cuts are not always $50+. I'd say she is expensive but if she is good probably worth it.
Respect or giving up your free will.
If she wants to go to church, and have that church a major part of her life, why should she give that up. He shouldn't have to go if he doesn't want to either. Sometimes divorce isn't a sad/bad thing.
what are you giving your child's teacher

I was thinking some sort of gift card...I'm sure she is overloaded with trinkets and Christmas ornaments, etc.  Any creative suggestions?


MERRY CHRISTMAS...


Fox still has not announced if they are giving any money....sm
to the cause.  Notice that they keep wanting people to donate, mentioned corporate sponsors but not once have mentioned any contributions they will make.  They also have no mention of this on their website. 
Good for you for giving it your best shot.
You obviously found something that attracted you to the man since you are with him.  Any and all relationships require work.  We are each different individuals, and in order to live together, need to find the balance that makes each happy.
Is giving grandparents a scrapbook
I think it would be, but decided to get opinions. Thank you in advance.
I'm giving mine COAL. LOL. nm
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Well, I'm guilty of giving neighbors' dog
he does come over our fence, literally climbs over, and comes into our yard and then our house. He goes straight to the kitchen, waits for a treat and then goes out the front door and to his yard. He gets ignored a lot so I feel sorry for him. He's so cute.
See my post above about gift giving sm
Take care of yourself first! I am glad you give so much of yourself, but take it from the source, stop killing yourself, you will know what I mean some day. Take care of you and the rest will follow. I am so tired.....stop burning the candle at both ends, charity begins at home. Then when done at home, go bowling!!
I'm giving up negative comments
I'm going to let only positive comments pass my lips, otherwise I will stay quiet. Believe me, the Lord knows what a sacrifice this will be for me.
If you had read further, instead of giving ok to steal,
then you would find out other things missing. I do not understand why you would basically condone stealing because it was "meaningless things?" I work for what I have. I am certainly in no ways ashamed and neither should I be. Stealing is just that, stealing and I think it is part of thou shalt not .......
Too small for me... love my SUV and not giving it up...

and will be getting another one. Prius and the like okay for in town driving but I live rurally, shop once a week, load up the SUV and it's done. My gas mileage is 20 -24 mpg and I can afford the gas.


I can see why some folks are giving up their pets

I just took Spot and Nerys to the vet for routine senior kitty blood checks. I also got Nerys a refill on her prednisalone. It cost $325.


Those furballs had better appreciate it tonight when I shove pills down their throats.


I think you're giving them too much leeway
by thinking they might have done it out of habit. When you know someone doesn't do something, whatever it might be, you don't do that thing. They know she doesn't do the texting thing and they did it anyway. I think they were being snots.
Giving/lending should be a choice

I prefer to make the decisions as to what, if any, possessions of mine should be loaned, and to whom.  If I'm kept in the dark about it, it feels a lot like theft when I don't know where my stuff is.  If I then discover its been spirited out of the house by a loved one, it feels like a betrayal.


The government already takes whatever it deems necessary out of my paycheck so I can be anonomously generous to whoever they deem needy.


It is very, very easy to be generous with other people's money and stuff.  Example - next time someone wants to borrow something from me, we'll just come get it from your house.  Obviously you won't mind, and I can feel sooo good about myself by helping someone else by handing them YOUR stuff.  I'll try really hard to remember to tell you I decided to do that, so you can feel as great about it as I do.


RE: Giving dogs bones
I was just wondering if any dog owners out there give their pups bones. I know to avoid chicken bones and such but what about marrow bones from the butcher, are they safe to give?
Gift giving is HARD
So much pressure!!! Am I right??? I feel this every time I give a gift. This kid sounds like he is going to get a lot of gifts anyways. All I got, way back in 2002 when I graduated, was a cake and a dinner with my family. I would give the kid at the most $25. He just graduated High School, which is what kids are suppose to do. Now if it was college and he graduated then of course I would give more. He should be lucky that you care enough to think about him and give him something even though you seem to be struggeling with it, which is not your fault.
Giving freely but never getting back

So how many years should one spend $100-$250 on someone's birthday or Christmas while receiving nada in return all year long, not even thanks?  It sure doesn't make a person feel loved or appreciated - and its hard to have the "joy of giving" when you're giving into an endless void and know there will be no presents for YOU.  I want to be seen as a person with needs and feelings too - not just a perpetual gift machine, or permanent Santa.  I'd rather give to charity than my kids when I have to force them to acknowledge they even GOT a gift, much less twist their arm until they choke out a thanks - and they act like I must be an alien with 2 heads to think THEY should give anything to anyone.


Actual conversation between me and 30-something kid


me - Hi, how you been, etc.  (five minutes into conversation with no mention of present)  Say, did you get a package in the mail from company X?


kid - yeah, that was a surprise.


me - well, did you LIKE it?


kid - oh, yeah.  It was really nice, made my day!  Showed my friends and they were like, wow!


me - well, I wasn't sure if you even GOT it, or if the company had even sent it to you.  So I thought I'd check and see.


kid -  Uh, yeah I got it.  Um, thanks.


me - my holiday was pretty lonely, nobody called, and I didn't get any presents.


kid - mine too.  You're the only one who ever gets me anything, everyone else just ignores me.


me - well, if you were lonely you could've called me.


kid - yeah, I know, but I was too depressed because everyone was ignoring me.


I BANG MY HEAD ON THE WALL!!!!


I was only giving you back your RUDENESS
you posting the whole evening against a woman who is in distress! Do you understand? You talk about rudness and hypocrisy? Now rudeness struck you, feels nice?
I hope you changed your attitude.

I do feel for you. You won't hear me giving you the 3rd degree. sm
I do have a dog house outside with 2 outdoor dogs because I have 3 little kids and can't have an indoor dog (one son with severe allergies). We own a lot of land (13 acres) fenced and cross-fenced. They don't want to come in. They are the happiest dogs you've ever seen (Shepherd, Corgi mixes). Anyways, I don't have any advice except to say that I don't know what I'd do in your situation. I run a very neat and clean house and don't want any dog hairs everywhere or a dog who chews, which I've seen.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do.

My mom raises miniature yorkies. She has dog strollers, the whole nine yards. That IS NOT for me.

I think people fail to realize that dogs are dogs. They are animals (I know this will start a hate thread), but seriously. You cannot allow a dog to rule your entire life. They are dogs. My mom hasn't visited any of her family in years because she can't leave her dogs at home or board ALL of them. To me, she is missing out on a lot of things because of these "animals."

Christmas starts on the evening of 12/24, not the day after T-giving
I'm Roman Catholic, and we celebrate Christmas until the epiphany. So our decorations are up until then.
I also remember a friend of mine who lived in upstate NY. She said that they had a local tradition where she lived that said they left decorations up until Presidents Day. She was the only person who ever told me that one, so I don't know if that's so.
I agree with giving the kitty cat food.

I have an older cat, but she likes the ground stuff (wet).  Now, what I'll do is put a tablespoon of that with a little bit of water.  I bought covers for the cans.  So, I'll keep it about 3 days in the refrigerator.  Once I have it in the refrigerator, I give her a little bit of warm water with the food.  I stir it up to make it sort of like a gravy.  My cat has lost some of her teeth, so she doesn't like to chew but she does like dry food as well.  The dry food I keep in another area of the house (laundry room), and she'll munch on that at her leisure.  I did notice though I have to dump out at night what remains (bits and pieces) of the dry as I guess it gets stale.  She gets the "wet" in the morning in a dish.  Once she eats that, I take it up and rinse the bowl.  She can munch on the dry all day long.  I've found that she likes a variety of different dry foods, but I try to get the "green" kind because she doesn't go outside.  My cat loves "Friskies" Dental Diet (we call 'em green ballz).  I have also noticed however that she likes kitten chow.  I wonder if you started more of a habitual pattern with your kitty cat as opposed to different options all day long just to kind of get him on a routine.  Hope this helps!  Probably not, but I luv talking about my cat! 


P/S:  She sneaks into the bathrooms and drinks out of the toilet!  YIKES!  But I do give her a treat in the later evening either 2 tablespoons of milk or half-and-half.  I also buy the soft treats to give once a while, but that's not an everyday thing!  She really won't drink a bowl of water per se!