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Spiritual in other ways aside from God. Don't attend church.

Posted By: Wasn't brought up attending it, either. NM on 2007-07-25
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At the church I used to attend --

they instituted a "reform program," whereby the associate pastor and elder members of the church agreed to take in single men who were recently paroled.  They dressed up and brought them to church every week.  They were introduced when they first came, but nothing was mentioned about their "crime life", etc. 


My point is, to the newer church goers, these men seemed like perfectly respectable church-going men, all the while they weren't.  Please keep this in mind.


How spiritual are you?
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I would join a church or church group. SM
I'm sure you will find someone like yourself, who likes to do the things you do, whether friend is male or female.

I'm laughing, because I am not religious fanatic. I do go to place of worship, but believe me, not fanatical.
church, church, courthouse. Married the same man
all 3 times. 
Well my church is a SB church in South Georgia
So maybe you're going to the wrong SB church!
you should speak to your spiritual advisor

Do you attend a church or other religious program?  If so, you really should speak to someone there about your situation.  I know several of my local churches offer to put together Christmas dinners for those who can't afford to and they've also given cash to them to buy for their families or help with their bills.  People are more generous than you might realize.


Do you have children and/or a significant other?  Depending on who you need to "shop" for, we may be able to offer nonmonetary suggestions that will make you feel good and the person you're giving the "gift" to. 


Things are always worse than they seem.  Hope your spirits are lifted soon.  Good will.


I guess it's almost spiritual interpretation
I'm not 100% sure whether I believe it's predestined or not. I was involved in a guy that was involved in 28 separate accidents involving transportation (and that doesn't count a few he has had with farm and other heavy equipment), at least 20 of which were potentially fatal, including 2 planes he crashed, not to mention that he is an alcoholic slowly drinking himself to death. While not religious in the standard sense, in his case I believed God was sending warning shots or a chance to make his life right, but considering these 'warnings' have been going on for 20+ years, I'm thinking that he's just both blessed and cursed at the same time. For what it's worth, his friends have voted him the person they most want to stand next to in a lightning storm, although I would worry that he seems to draw the lightning to him, and he's the one with the 'charmed' existence, not necessarily those who are with him.
Thank you, Lilly! Unfortunately, I do have to attend with him and the other gentleman
because of the nature of the conference and both of them are the district heads. However, although I do believe he is a very kind and respectable person, I feel a bit too vulnerable at the moment to go it alone, so I contacted an MT I know from the area we are going to and she is going to meet me for dinner that evening and show me some of the shops. This gives me my "out" not to have dinner with them and also to stay within my boundaries.

I am a widow, so these feelings are more to new to me than I can actually express in words, but it has been a long time since I felt that comfortable around a man since my husband. However, as many of you posted, the timing is not right and I will not compromise my integrity as a person. I have faith that God will guide me in the right direction and I am happy, in a way, to know that there is hope that I will feel those "feelings" again with another person, although this is just not the one to be feeling them with.
oh but he did attend 4 yrs of school in Korea
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she got VISA to attend way too late to come.SM

and Brad was great too.....different types of singers/performers....


don't be sore about it....*lol*


Do not do anything else until you attend marriage counseling - sm
You owe it not only to the kids (who did not ask to be born into this) but you owe it to yourselves to seek marriage counseling before just deciding to up and divorce without seeking outside professional help.  Until you can say you tried everything under the sun to make it work and can truly walk out the door with no undone and unsaid business with your husband you are not even ready for divorce.  Give it a try.  I have been down this road before (but for other reasons) and can tell you it turned us around.  We are celebrating 25 years this September and have never been happier.  Best of luck to you both. 
Daughter wants to attend birthday party

My daughter is 10 and her friend will be 11.  Her friend has been to our house numerous times and she is a SWEET girl.  HOWEVER, her parents and their home is incredibly dirty.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not a neat freak myself but their home is filfthy, as are they.  Took their daughter home one day and they came outside, along with one of their younger sons who was in his underwear that looked soiled/brown/gray.  Her mother seems nice enough but I get the feeling there is some sort of mental illness going on.  Every time I've been around her I can tell she has major hygiene issues, built up plaque on her teeth and dirt under her nails, dirty clothes, etc.  I'm not trying to be judgmental; I just don't want to allow my daughter to go to their house.  Her friend is more than welcome here.  I'm concerned this is going to possibly cause friction with the girls.  I've talked with the mother of another friend in the group and she understands where I'm coming from, as she feels the same way.  Wondering if any of you may have any suggestions for me.  I know the girls are getting older and I'm sure my daughter's friend is realizing that her friends aren't allowed to her house, yet she can visit them.  I really feel for her and I wonder how many girls will actually show for her party, yet I don't want to run the risk of my daughter coming home with lice or something. 


 



Do you attend a local state fair in the summer? How far
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I homeschool my daughter, but allow her to attend public school for the SM

social aspects.  She is way ahead of her grade academically.  Eventually, she will either be homeschooled exclusivelly or I will enroll her in a magnet school or alternative school.


I think in this day and age parents should plan a way for their kids to attend college (sm)
$1000 a month is nothing compared to what it actually takes to raise two kids.
Do you attend any free local concerts in the summer? Are any offered
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What would you all do? My SIL is making my DH attend my nephew's HS grad in Texas this June...sm

We live in Illinois.


He would be taking my youngest son with him also.  The total cost of the trip for the two of them would easily be $2000 since my DH does not get paid for taking time off work.  If he takes this trip that would mean no vacation for me or my other two kids next year since that's pretty much all we can afford is one vacation a year.  She is insisting her only brother (DH) be there at the actual ceremony which is on a Tuesday evening.  Then afterwards they plan on going out to dinner to celebrate - no party that would be it.


I would rather we go the following week, drive the entire family and stay the week and celebrate the whole week with them.  My son graduates high school in two years and I don't expect her to be at the ceremony for that.  We probably wouldn't have enough tickets for her anyway.


DH doesn't have the guts to tell her "No" since she's laying the guilt trip pretty thick. 


Do you think we are obligated to go to the ceremony?  She has more than enough family members that live over there that could attend (grandparents, aunts, uncles, her other children).


Thanks for any input. 


Ours attend local college PT and still live at home. Hard to make ends meet "out there" on
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don't know how many ways....
But I just did a consult on a patient that was suspected of having endocarditis and he was not an IV drug user. He had repeated infections with streptococcus viridans and poor oral hygiene. His oral hygiene was stated as a risk factor for endocarditis.

I am sure there are other causes as well.
Yes, you can get it other ways - sm
I have mitral valve prolapse and have to take antibiotics before any dental work or surgery, etc. to prevent endocarditis. However, IV drug abuse is the most common cause, but not the only cause.

Hope this answers your question.
I see it two ways.

I work days and my DH works nights. He sleeps during the day and I can't get in the room during the day. I have to keep my clothes, personal hygiene supplies, etc., in the linen closet so I have access to them. Also we have blankets over the windows blocking out ALL light. I would like an alternative to having the blankets on the windows for one thing.


Secondly I would almost like the second bedroom because I could go to bed when I want. Sometimes I stay up late because he gets up an hour or so after I want to go to bed.


Otherwise I wouldn't want a suite with two beds or two bedrooms.


A few ways to get around this - sm
You can make your appt the first of the day, that helps but no guarantees of course if the doctor makes rounds or if he has a long traffic filled commute, or the first appt after lunch. I find the latter is the best. I go to a dermatologist where the wait in the waiting room was 45-60 minutes; I got really sick of that and moved my appt to the first after lunch, wait time about 10 minutes. The other docs we see are very good, maybe 10-15 minutes, granted they have bad days too but not nearly as bad as those listed below 2-5 hours is just too crazy; I think anything over 30 minutes is out of hand unless there was an emergency. If I was kept waiting consistently at every appt I'd "fire" the doctor and write them a a letter saying why. --Also I would not have paid for the visit co-pay as you did, I would have just left telling them you had had it with waiting and left.
I know it's still a ways off but what do you do?

My husband informed me he will be gone Thanksgiving this year for deer hunting.  It will just be my 7-year-old son and I.  My parents live 4 hours a way and won't drive down for that holiday and his relatives all scatter to their various in-laws.  Anyone else out there go through this?  What do you do?


 


For those that don't go through this, I'd still love to hear what you do for Thanksgiving.  I've always wanted a huge family especially for occasions like this!!


this goes both ways!....nm
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That's all well and fine but it goes both ways
Then Christianity and even the mention of God should be kept out of all forms of government, local to federal.

I guess only Muslims can be terrorists. Was McVeigh Muslim? Stop generalizing.

Oh, and what is a mosk?

I'm sure if I was an American Muslim I would be welcome at a mosque.

I'm sure you'd welcome a Muslim with open arms into your congregation.... after he goes through the metal detector.

Okay, I'm done.
In many ways she has changed
Far from perfect but definitely better and being with Nick has definitely helped. Of course, she was just recently holding over Sharon and Brad's head their affair and could go to jail for it, so I guess that is the Phyllis you remember. I have only been watching the show for about 3 years.
There are other ways. Declawing is actually -
an AMPUTATION of the entire distal phalanx in the cat's toes; it isn't just the claw that is removed. It's one of a cat's most sensitive areas. Imagine having your finger and toe-tips amputated, and then having to walk around on them! Some cats go on to have problems afterward with their personalities, or stop using their litter-boxes because it's painful to dig. Even though an indoor cat is SUPPOSED to be indoors, unexpected things can happen: A door accidentally left ajar, a handyman forgets to close it as he dashes out to his truck for an extra tool, unknowing friends or visitors who forget to keep the door closed, or a kitty who is an escape-artist can lead to the cat getting outside. Or, in the midst of a catastrophe, such as a flood, fire, earthquake, etc., the cat could end up outside and on its own for anywhere from hours to months. Their claws are their first line of defense against attackers, and their ability to climb is often their only hope of escape.

What I do with my cat is TRIM all the claws regularly with a nail-clipper. Takes about 5 minutes, and is all she needs. Another, rather STYLISH option is using "Soft Paws". They are little plastic tips (and can come in a rainbow of colors!) that are glued to the tips of the cat's nails. They last until the outer part of the nail finally sheds. That would certainly be worth the time it took to apply.

I once adopted a rescue-kitty that had been declawed in all four feet.
Even though she was a gorgeous, purebred, show-quality chinchilla Persian, she had been in four different shelters, and kept getting returned after being adopted because of major litterbox issues. Former adopters had returned her time and again, and she had been scheduled for euthanasia when she was pulled from the shelter by a rescue organization. I adopted her, even though she was 10 yrs. old, because I knew that otherwise she'd probably spend the rest of her life in a crowded rescue setting.

Her poor little feet were so sensitive that she wouldn't let you touch them, and it took a while to get her using her litter box because didn't like to dig in the litter. Even playing was frustrating for her, as she could rarely successfully catch the toy she was chasing.

Also, depending on what state you live in, declawing may not be legal. I would suggest talking to your vet, or even a local rescue organization or other cat expert, about the different ways you could solve the problem without giving up your cats or mutilating their paws by declawing.
I feel so much for you right now. In some ways SM
our situations were the same. When you are in need of someone you are terribly vulnerable. That is how I was at the time, and this man has helped you learn about your brother, and that, too is hitting close to your heart. We tend to fall for those who rescue us, be kind to us in a hard time, etc.  I know the psychologist I saw some years ago was lookin' pretty good to me, too!  He was there for me, spoke kindly and told me I was worth so much. It is easy to fall, and I know that. I am afraid for you and I feel we are friends who share this. We are only human, and no one is blaming you. I just know how strong a thing this is, but believe me, and I promise this is the last thing I will post about this. . .  It takes even more strength to deal with the hurt. Good luck to you, dear. Please value yourself above all else and do what is right for you.
They could research ways that
regular people could go "green." The list could show the most fuel-efficient cars, how to make and set up rain barrels and how to compost and use organic fertilizers. Then they could offer that article to all their parents' home owners associations to print in newsletters. Some churches might put it on their website or bulletin board. They could probably make and sell rain barrel setups, for that matter, and profits could be donated to charities. You know there is paint that works on plastic now, so they could use the cheapest barrels, which is likely those ugly blue plastic things, and paint them neutral colors that would blend in.

My name is one that can be pronounced two ways (sm)
My name is pronounced two different ways and can also be shortened into a nickname. People call me different things. When I go around my old family members I know what they are going to call me. He has every right to be called whatever he wants on a daily basis, but when around family members who have known you by a certain name all your life, it is very unnatural to them to try to call you something else. It seems very fake and superficial. They love him as a person, it doesn't matter what they call him. He can get by temporarily being called something else. It is no big deal.
I need persausive ways to get my

son and husband into counseling for their anger issues....threatening doesn't work.. I will speak to them about it and they will be "good" for a while but then it comes back eventually.  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!! 


 


ps my son is 28-YO and this is a learned  trait unfortunately (tried the counseling route when he was 15, husband went to one session with him and refused to go back) pulling out my hair


well of course they have paid for it in other ways.
for the poor. That's a just society. I would gladly pay $6 a gallon for gas if my health care were free and my children were going to college for free. That would be a bargain!
there are MANY ways our government
and I believe there are many people angry about the money spent on this war.
They are both amazing in different ways (sm)
There's room in the world for both of them :-)
frugal ways
I cut my own hair and my children's. I switched to a Trac fone and got rid of cell bills. Food is a huge bill of mine so I try to make every meal stretch further (leftover meals etc). No more fast food or grabbing coffee out. I take out library books instead of buying them. They even have movie rentals for the kids.
A couple of different ways to do it.
The lazy way is simply Fritos with Chili on top, but in the Lone Star, we wouldn't dare think of serving chili without fresh shopped onion and grated chedder on top, heated through really good so that when you stir it up, it melts the cheese. Other garnishes used can be lime juice on the fritos, chopped avocado and cilantro on top of the cheese. If the chili is on the spicy side, some folks put a generous dollop of sour cream on the chili before the onions and cheese.

An alternate method would be to layer Fritos, chili, onion, and cheese twice, ending up with generous cheese in a large casserole dish sprayed with cooking spray (or a 9 x 13 baking dish with one layer) and bake at 350 for 45 minutes to an hour. Let cool for about half an hour so it will set. when prepared this way, it sort of cuts in wedges.

The cole slaw is a good complement for this because it is creamy and helps take the edge off the spices in the chili.

If you imbibe, a tall, really cold longneck beer is an excellent side kick for this dish or dial it up a notch with a pitcher of frozen margaritas.
There are a few ways to disagree. You can
respectfully diagree, and you can be nasty and bash.  The latter would be the troll. 
boss of the ways
Here's one: When my son was 4 we were on vacation, lost, and I kept telling my husband, Go this way, go that way, etc. My son got frustrated with driving around for so long aimlessly had some ideas of his own, and yelled, "Hey, I am the boss of the ways!" He is 19 now and we still use the phrase.
Ways we save
My husband has a 401K plan and we also have mutual funds. I had a very large retirement plan with my previous employer that we rolled over and invested. We're definitely not touching any of it, but it's nice to know if we got into a huge bind we'd have the money available.
That can work both ways
I quit seeing my grandkids because of my son, their father. They were about to graduate high school. I recently saw the youngest, g'daughter at a place where she was working and tried to explain, no I did not give them up but would not come around my son, too toxic. I gave her my new number and said the road goes both ways. She and her brother both driving. Told her to give me a call. That was about 3 months ago. They live about 15 minutes from here. Did I expect a call, not really. I wish them well.
thyroid manifests in many ways
Thirty years ago, a friend's daughter, 15, was thought to be manic-depressive, having breakdown. She was diagnosed with Graves' and medication made immediate difference. Today she's a happy grandma and still doing well.
you did right, and her bratty immature ways will
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One of the best ways I've found to

avoid holiday stress -- a Christmas Club.  The first year, we just did a $500 one - that's $10 a week.  Then after that, we decided to go with a $1000 one - just $20 a week.  I know it sounds like a lot, but think about how many times you pick up a $5 lunch at McD's or buy something in the grocery store you really don't need.  If you pay it out of your check first (or direct deposit right into the club account), you don't even miss it. 


Another way to avoid stress (I have 3 kids, so I do get stressed) for me is to have each of my kids write their lists early, usually early November, after they've had a chance to study the JCP Christmas catalog.  Then I get on line starting in November to check for the early Black Friday ads.  The more stuff I can cross off on Black Friday, the better for all.  I have gotten great deals on Black Friday.  Yes, it's sometimes stressful to get up and get those deals, but it can be done.


Lastly, I try to emphasize to my kids that it's the spirit of Christmas that's important, creating traditions to pass down.  Kids appreciate that more than anything under the tree. 


Wrong ways in life.
Why are you "waiting" on someone to marry you. First of all, the guy you have been with for 10 years is not marriage material. He has told you that and you are really wasting your time. The sentence "so and so could take care of me" is sad. Why don't you take care of yourself? Do not WAIT on a person to do what you should. You have 2 feet, stand on them. You need a job, to work and be self sufficient. The days of old are gone when most women stayed home and the men "took care of them." You are wasting your life staying where you are and one day you wake up past your prime and wonder what happened.
Plus there are ways of making that extra day
There may be temp work to be had for 1 day a week (a good way to explore other jobs). Or devote one day a week to starting a small business of your own, such as on eBay, or crafts, or doing odd jobs in the neighborhood.

Another way is to spend the day working on the house. Things there weren't time for with a 5-day workweek, like finishing that deck or BBQ pit in the back yard, or replacing a leaky toilet or faucet, painting, weatherstripping, insulating etc. There are lots of things that can: add value to the house, improve heating/cooling efficiency, etc.

Or, maybe one day a week take a class at the local junior college, trade school, etc. It could pay off in just doing something fun or interesting, or in working towards an unfinished degree, or in learning a new trade altogether.
I do both ways, wash by hand and also
clean out food particles and wash in the dishwasher. I have no reservations about doing that. The only thing I don't like are family plates set on floor and animals eating out of those and reusing. Yuck.
Save your money, other ways better spent
NM
karma doesn't have to be tit for tat...it can come in non monentary ways!
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Ways to maintain mental health...

Hope these make someone laugh...  Makes me wish I worked in an office away from home sometimes...


Ways To Maintain Mental Health

1.  At lunch time, sit in your parked car with sunglasses on and point a hair dryer at passing cars.  see if they slow down. 

2.  Page yourself over the intercom.  Don't disguise your voice.

3.  Every time someone asks you to do something, ask if they want fries with that.

4.  Put your garbage can on your desk and label it "In."

5.  Put decaf in the coffee maker for 3 weeks.  Once everyone has gotten over their caffeine addictions, switch to espresso.


6.  In the memo field of all your checks, write "For sexual favors." (I actually do this one!)
 
7.  Finish all your sentences with "In accordance with The Prophecy."

8.  Don't use any punctuation

9.  As often as possible, skip rather than walk.

10.  Ask people what sex they are.  Laugh hysterically after they answer. 

11.  Specify that your drive-through order is "To Go."

12.  Sing along at the opera.

13.  Go to a poetry recital and ask why the poems don't rhyme.
 
14.  Put mosquito netting around your work area and play tropical sounds all day.

15.  Five days in advance, tell your friends you can't attend their party
because you're not in the mood.

16.  Have your co-workers address you by your wrestling name, "Rock Hard."

17. When the money comes out of the ATM, scream "I Won!, I Won!" 

18.  When leaving the zoo, start running towards the parking lot, yelling "Run for your lives, they're loose!!"

19.  Tell your children over dinner. "Due to the economy,   we are going to have to let one of you go."

20.  Share this with someone else... its called therapy.


Anyone know other ways of making at-home money sm

I have been transcribing for over 12 years - and I do like the profession and I am grateful that it has allowed me to stay home with my children. But I am getting sort of burned out....and want to do something different for a while at home. Have been looking at all sorts of online sites that advertise working from home but I don't know which are legit.  I know this is an MT site but does anyone do anything other than MTing that has been successful?  I am thinking of maybe doing MTing part-time to stay up-to-date with it, and doing something else part-time, or maybe just taking a break from MTing for a while altogether. Any ideas would be appreciated.


In a church
with a full catholic mass and I guess what you'd call a traditional receptionist.