Someone who is atheist clearly is not going to Heaven. No judging, just stating fact as
Posted By: nm on 2006-11-10
In Reply to: by telling someone --sm - nn
per the Holy Bible.
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I wasn't judging, just stating the facts ma'am....
these were things that were mentioned in the trial. And the baby and the methadone thing was accused by Larry B, I think he would know if she was taking methadone, and she was on something, we all know that.
You ARE judging -- judging businesses open and
It IS judgementalism at it's finest.
You think because someone doesn't agree with YOUR views, that THEY should have to work on that day, simply because of views.
You think that because someone might celebrate Christmas on Dec 20 due to family/schedule issues, that THEY shouldn't be able to live a normal life on Dec 25.
Very, very judgemental and extremely limited in perspective.
I understand you are Pentecostal. I'm more than familiar with that denomination. It has nothing to do with any of the topics you state. It just makes a bigger emphasis in my mind of WHY you think like you do. Sad.
I hope you have a good day. I'm thankful I am not like you. You don't make me want to be in any way. How's that for being an example and drawing others to Him? You're repelling, not drawing.
Go have yourself a great religious day.
You are assuming I am atheist...I am not.
You think lightning bolts will strike me??? LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
As an atheist, I sometimes wished I could believe...
...it seems that it would be so much easier sometimes! I mean, think about it. There's this huge support system for believers--instant friends, acquaintenaces, counseling, etc. For the most part, the religious folks I have met are some of the nicest and most understanding--they would never pick fights over if one chooses to believe or not. They are happy, comfortable, and at peace with their lives (or so it seems to me anyway).
I'm not saying I'm not happy, uncomfortable, or not at peace, but there's just this sense of community with churchlife that we atheists really don't have and that's kind of a bummer.
It's the shock value - like saying you're an atheist
The best thing to say to these people - and I quote from the famous Cordelia from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" - "What is your childhood trauma??!!"
Never said that she was, just stating the obvious......
I know if she were my sister (I'm around her age) I would not have wanted anyone to know, that's all.
No, I am just stating my experience
What I have said is not made up, just MY experience! You need to present all sides here, not just "there are options." You say that like the soldier has the option of staying here or not. No, she has to go through the proper channels, and REQUEST, not tell them what she wants to do. They can then say yay or nay!
OMG - Old P-T was NOT stating the ceremonies were different
She was simply stating that a wedding ceremony of ANY kind, gay, straight or otherwise IS NOT FIELD TRIP MATERIAL. Put the chip on your shoulder away for a minute and focus on the real issue. The kids should be in SCHOOL.
I know this is stating the obvious but sm
Just quit doing it and they will get the idea and stop. Trust me, I have a whiner for attention here at my house (and I have French doors to my office so he can see me to boot!), and when he pulls that whining nonsense I just ignore him, he gets bored, and moves on. Be firm! Best of luck! 
Gee, didn't mean it was NOT in the blood but stating that it would have
shown in the autopsy quite quickly in the organs, as that is what I thought the original poster had inquired about.
Just stating the facts ma'am, and it looks like
you are not such a great diagnostician either! lol
I was simply stating what my sweet addiction is and what
my not sweet addiction is. 
I was just suprised when you replied to my message stating people just amaze you for being SM
so insensitive when she posted the remark about her ill mother the day after my post. I have a very ill mother myself and would never, ever treat that lightly. I just get annoyed with people blaming the animals and calling them stupid, when in fact it is the stupidity of the owners and the total disregard of neighbors that cause these problems. Have a good day.
Where did you get that I was judging anyone?
I'm not judging anyone, ks. And, I don't get what you're talking about regarding "spewing the word from your mouth and acting differently behind closed doors". I try to be humble in my faith. As I said, I may not agree with a person's lifestyle, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be respectful to him/her. God put us on this Earth to do HIS work or genuinely didn't you know that? This thread was about what stores wouldn't you shop at and I replied that I wouldn't shop at WalMart because they sell gay/lesbian material. That is because I do not agree with it because I believe the scripture referring to homosexuality as being sinful, ungodly, and an abomination.
I don't know where you got that I was judging YOU or your son in law. sm
I never said anything disparaging about you. The worst I said about him was that it sounded like he was underprepared (you didn't give a big history on his work experience other than that he was new to cold call sales, which is what I commented on).
I certainly didn't judge him for taking a job, only questioned if it was the right job for him.
And where did you get that I thought it was "nonsense?" I never said that, never implied that.
I DID give you suggestions that YOU could do to ease your mind...you really can find a LOT of your needed info simply by Googling. That wasn't a demeaning response, it was truthful...I checked it out before I suggested it.
I kicked NO ONE when they were down.
I am not judging, if I were then I
would talk to her about her excessive alcohol use, her marijuana use and on and so forth. I am not past talking with, but frankly I have felt she is very judgemental, critical of me and just does not even take the time to know me as I am. I do not ever get in her life, stay on 1 side of town and she on the other. Just like she said walking on egg shells, that has been my take on her for a very long time.
Here we go again. Judge not, I'm not judging. I am following
that is how I can say what a store should and shouldn't sell!
No, you won't change me otherwise. I'm not judging
the Bible. God will judge in the end. I simply don't shop at stores that sell gay and lesbian items.
I agree...too much judging others. nm
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Are you judging her mother by what
she told you or personal experience?
and not judging you at all-happy that you (sm)
have not experienced the horrible guilt that many of us have. Some do and some do not, but it is a risk...you don't know for sure how you will feel until later. It is sort of a knee-jerk reaction oftentimes, to try to quickly "solve the problem" but many people have terrible guilt years later and have to get help with it.
Judging people I don't know:
If you're one of the sickos who defend their right to abuse children because it's their religion, you deserve to be judged along with them.
I'm not judging you but with there being so many women who do (sm)
have terrible guilt and remorse after ABs it would seem that there should be more involved to get one, at least a visit with an unbiased psychiatrist who tells the full story of how one might feel later. I had someone say to me, "Now this is your decision right? Later on you don't get to blame anyone else, not your boyfriend, not your friends, no one else." I said I wouldn't and that was the extent of my counseling. This was in the mid-90s. I think you should have to go apply for one, be given a counseling session, wait a week or two, and see if that is still what you want to do. I think women should be given extensive information on all of their options and possible emotional repercussions so that at least when they make their own personal "choice" at least it is a well-informed choice. For me it is not so much guilt toward God as it is to the child I allowed to be killed. It is not a religious thing at all.
No one is judging a dog. Dogs
don't know right from wrong. They are animals. The point that I continue to make is that IT DOES NOT MATTER what this elderly man did. The pets in the home attacked and killed him. No PET should ever be capable by temperament of attacking and killing a human being.
For the sake of your argument, if the man reached out with a cane and rapped the dog on the head, in your mind would that justify the reactions of the dog to kill the person who struck him? How many other dog breeds would run behind the couch or under a table when confronted with abusive treatment? How many other dog breeds would growl? Bark? Nip? Bite? No one is saying that an animal should not defend itself, but a dog whose defense is to kill a human is a dog that should NOT be kept as a pet. A dog is an animal and does not think like a human, as you have pointed out, and that is precisely the thing that makes them unpredictable and makes the pitbull breed attacked unprovoked. It is all in what the dog perceives as a threat, which a human cannot always predict, or more importantly, cannot always prevent.
Tyne Daily, Judging Amy, NM
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Stop judging people who you do not know
Not judging honey, believe me, I speak...
my mind and you could tell if I was judging others. This place is teeming with unhappy, whining, complaining women (just look at some of the posts all over this site) and that is not a judgement, it is fact. As far as being in the same situation as others one day, if you read any of my posts you would see that I have been there, done that and changed my ways. Should something happen, we have learned to save money, have enough put away to last a year and not have to touch any retirement, etc. That took a lot of determination and hard work on our part and we are proud of it.
I am get a good chuckle out of some women who accuse other women of "living off their husbands" and "where would you be without his money". I can make my own money, but my husband doesn't tell me that i need to work and doesn't tell me how much I need to make. He is the provider in this family and has never once asked me to work harder, earn more or get a different job. Remember when men used to do that and our mother's stayed home and raised the family and didn't work? Are you jealous of your girl friends or family members that don't have to work or who live debt free or do you hold that judgement for those you do not know?
Enough of this for now. I'm sure someone will have something to bash me about later on...go ahead, it just shows how very immature some women can be.
heaven
I had a "near death" experience and got a glimpse of the other side. The colors were different, more vibrant, more shades and variations than here and the music was indiscribable. This happened in childbirth over 40 years ago and I can still remember every exquisit detail. I also totally believe in reincarnation and that someday we will see heaven spread over the earth and wake up to it's splendor for what it (we) really are.
I don't believe in heaven either...
but that's because I am what I am--a godless atheist. ;-)
I always have to take the difficult path in my life choices it seems, don't know why, must be my whole "gotta have a challenge" mentality. I envy the people who believe in god, heaven, and all the good things that come with the comfort of firmly believing in what happens when we die. I just can never be convinced otherwise; my mom tried right up to her own death and said she was sad for me.
Well I'm not sad and I don't feel purposeless either. I just believe in science and need something tangible. I don't think I'll just become a wormfeast though when I die (course I will be cremated unless there's nothing left to cremate for some reason), but there's some sort of biological electricity in all living things, so I'd like to think that electricity gets transferred some how. In what way, I have no idea.
Cue the Star Trek music now! 
Heaven to me would be seeing my
Dad and relatives and some dear friends completely restored and happy, and being reunited with my pets; Greta, Maggie, Angus and Molly.
Yeah, that would make me ill. I am not judging you by any means sm
as to the whys of your son living with them. If you were married to a husband like mine and then had 3 boys totally dedicated to sports - when it comes to that I have NO SAY whatsoever about my 3 sons playing ball. Their dad takes care of all of that. I don't think I'd let them move away and I don't my husband would either, BUT, if they did and my ex sister in law was the way you describe yours to be, then I'd be very upset too!
Right now I don't get along with my in laws. At all. Never have. And to imagine that one of my boys living with them. Ugh. Makes me ill just thinking about that.
What the he## is her problem with you any way? I mean, seriously? If she had any sense whatsoever she would smile, be sweet, and only say nice things about you ALWAYS.
Listen, hon. Trust me on this one. Your son will grow up and see her true colors and resent her if she continues to spew hate or not like you, etc. You are his mom. I know my boys would be the same if anyone disrespected me like that. I mean, their own dad can't even look at me wrong before they are all over him like you know what.
Let the natural thing just happen. Do the right thing. Say the right thing. Be there for him, always. Ask about his aunt. Be a huge part of his life even if he isn't there with you. Call often. And if she continues to be a twit, then you will be the winner in the end, even though right now it may not feel like it.
Good luck.
I'm going to Heaven and you're not.
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I feel certain you will see her in Heaven - sm
Once we get to be with God, there is no division by religion, that's what I believe anyway. If she was a good person, she will be there.
I'm Jewish. I believe in God, but not heaven, at
Not in the other place either. However, I believe bad people get theirs in the end, one way or the other.
Trose - Heaven
Trose, I love the creativity of this site.. go down the page for the beautiful animated graphic, and oh the words underneath are awesome.
http://www.angelfire.com/la2/OurAngel/Links.html
Animals in heaven? NM
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Kingdom of Heaven
Anything with Orlando Bloom is excellent. Seen this movie about 50 or so times and think I will watch it again tomorrow.
Oh for heaven's sake.
There is nothing hateful in my post. At ALL. I gave 2 conditions; either she likes the way she looks or she doesn't. Either way, SHE is the one responsible. Not the MRI company, not airlines, not McDonalds, no one else. If you think this is hateful, it's because you don't think she should take responsibility for her own behavior, & I'm willing to bet you would like the rest of us to take responsibility for yours as well. Good grief! You even want me to take responsibility for your feelings when all I've done is state a couple of facts & conditions. Why am I not surprised.
Yes. It's hard to lose weight. Millions of years of evolving to super-efficient fat storage have seen to that. But actions have consequences. Everyone who is obese seems to think no one noticed how they got that way. Now the consequences of that behavior are yet another thing the rest of the population is supposed to take responsibility for, like bad loans or cigarette companies or bad business plans or anything else, & it pi&&es me off.
Oh for heaven's sake.
There is nothing hateful in my post. At ALL. I gave 2 conditions; either she likes the way she looks or she doesn't. Either way, SHE is the one responsible. Not the MRI company (and not airlines, not McDonalds, not the cigarette companies), NO ONE else. If you think this is hateful, it's because you don't think she should take responsibility for her own behavior, & I'm willing to bet you would like the rest of us to take responsibility for yours as well. Good grief! You even want me to take responsibility for your hurt feelings when all I've done is state a couple of facts & conditions. Why am I not surprised. Sorry, but I am of the opinion that we all make our own beds & lie in them.
Yes. It's hard to lose weight. Millions of years of evolving to super-efficient fat storage have seen to that. But actions have consequences. Everyone who is obese seems to think no one noticed how they got that way. Now the consequences of that behavior are yet another thing the rest of the population is supposed to take responsibility for, like bad loans or bad business plans or anything else, & it pi&&es me off.
Well, obviously. For heaven's sake.
If there's a surgical indication, like inability to urinate, of course I would have it done! WITH anesthesia.
What I'm against is unnecessary circumcision, which the vast majority are. I seriously question the ability of practitioners to discern developmental phimosis, which will correct itself naturally over time, with phimosis that will cause a serious health condition later in life.
http://www.nocirc.org/publish/pamphlet6.html
Trose, I don't believe in heaven, but I would teach SM
heaven to small children, until they are older and can grasp death in the reality of truth. Hmm,did that make any sense? It's late.
Another heaven quote I love!!
Perspective on Death:
Death is God carrying us in one arm while the other flings aside heaven's door to welcome us back to the blazing hearth of our first home
.... while those inside, having arrived before us, rush to the door like glad children shouting, "They're here!"
Death has a bad name on earth but in heaven it's a homecoming party everytime the door opens.
God does not forget those earthbound children, sad and left behind.
God leaves the party early to enter into their despair and to get them ready for their own parties SOME DAY!
Phyllis Koehl (author)
If you expect $60K to rain down from heaven think again
My Bible tells me that the Lord will provide (and has provided) for all of my needs, it does not say he will send money raining down for me whenever I get myself into excess debt. Rest assured that the Lord will provide the faithful with all that they need and plenty of what they want. It is your right to believe otherwise, but do not step on my Christian beliefs in the process.
Luke 12:28, "If then God so clothe the grass, which is today in the field, and tomorrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith?"
Imagine the music in Heaven now!
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I think there are probably more animals in heaven than people, too. (nm)
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Grandparents are Heaven on Earth
I have no kids so can only give you a viewpoint of how my grandparents shaped my life. I grew up very close (personally) to my grandparents (grandma was my second mom). My grandparents (moms side) lived up the road from us (about a 5 min walk with an open field between us). In the mornings we would walk outside and if she was out we would yell "hello up there" and grandma would yell back "hello down there". She took care of my sister and I during the day while mom worked. We went everywhere with her every day (hairdresser, butcher, stores, errands, church activities, her friends house, etc). She taught us how to whistle with a blade of grass, play "here is the church & here is the steeple, open the doors and see all the people" with our hands. We ate every Sunday supper with them and then she and grandpa moved the living room furniture and taught us how to polka to Lawrence Welk. We also ate there often during the week. Once a week we would spend the night at their house. Grandpa had a lawnmower repair and sales business but anytime I was having trouble in school, he would come in and after supper sit down and help me (mostly with math), but he didn't even think twice about not helping. He was the most unselfish person in the whole world. When I was feeling down about my grade on a report card or test (I was a C & D student, occasionally a B and very rare an A) he would ask me if I did the best that I could and I said I tried really hard but I just didn't understand. He told me as long as I tried the hardest I could he was proud of me. We grew up in the country and g'ma taught us about wild flowers, quilting, and other country type stuff. During the winter we would have sled parties at her house for my girl scout troop and she would bring out hot cocoa with mini marshmallows. Just a couple years ago my best childhood friend was telling me she had just been thinking about that sled party and my grandma bringing us the hot cocoa, and I just have so many wonderful life memories the list would go on and on. She died when I was 16 (30 years ago), grandpa died a few years ago. I miss them so much it still hurts. My dad's grandparents lived 15 minutes from us and we spent every Sunday afternoon with them and when I was old enough to drive I would go up on my own during the weekdays and sit at the table and talk and talk with grandma for hours. I miss them both so much too. I think grandparents are the most wonderful gift a child could have. I was blessed to have mine live so close to us. They spoiled us rotten and we loved it!
Oh how I dream of being young again and having my grandparents to talk to. I'm now 48 and live alone with husband. All my grandparents and mom are gone, dad lives across the country and I see him once every 3 years. I sure do miss them all. I hope all kids have a chance to be close to their grandparents the way I was.
My mom (when she was alive) and dad all have fond memories of their parents (they both told me they had the best parents anywhere).
So the only way I can sum it up is that "Grandparents are Heaven on Earth".
Poem "My First Christmas in Heaven"
In the search box put My First Christmas in Heaven poem" and do a Google search.
Make sure it is the poem written by a 13-year-old boy to his mom before he died of a brain tumor
Read this poem every year as if your son is sending it to you.
Of course not!!! Heaven forbid!! She wound have NO part of that!
I said she was perfect, didn't I? Her life was perfect. Everyone should be like her... but of course, I come across women every day with all kinds of problems because they are not perfect and their lives are not perfect ... ahh... poor them... I try to provide them with exercises and the like to help them improve their damaged and imperfect psyches, but there are no guarantees when one has a hisory of making mortal mistakes...
Well I guess it is a pretty sensational story judging by the media coverage!
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I didn't judge anyone. I said, I'm going to Heaven and you're not to that person and
according to the Bible that is true. There was no judging in the post.
There is another bright star in animal heaven. He was a beautiful boy. NM
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