Some very dedicated teachers and low paid...
Posted By: heroes on 2009-06-08
In Reply to: First of a two part question - travelinmt
like firemen, police, military who risk their lives for really low pay unlike people with extreme salaries like sports or movie stars.
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I broke down and got a pair of dedicated....
single-vision computer glasses. HUGE difference. They definitely aren't pretty because I wanted to keep the cost as low as I could, but my headaches are all but gone now thanks to them.
My other pair of glasses are bifocals, which I can use for work in a pinch like if I lost my computer glasses, but what happens is I wind up tilting my head too much to use the teeny bifocal part to see the monitor, which in turn causes headaches from muscle strain.
To save a TON off glasses, take your prescription and get them at a wholesale place like Sam's Club.
Good luck! 
Teachers........sm
I understand the feelings about some teachers and the views that they get a good deal for doing nothing. When my children were in school, they had good teachers and some just downright horrible teachers that should never be teaching children. I think it depends on where you live also. They grew up for the most part in Florida and the community we were in had great schools.
Because of my husband's job, we moved to an area where the schools were less than desireable, but my kids were in advanced placement classes, which meant they were getting a better deal. I did see how this local system was dumbing down kids because a lot of them just come from homes where parents just plain ole don't care. Many problems, and they TOO think it's all the teacher's fault if their kids aren't passing. Strange that they never feel it is their responsibility to see their child is passing, but then again, so many of them are used to getting freebies and everything given to them without working for it, it never phases them they are actually supposed to raise their own child and not the school system.
That being said, my daughter now teaches in that system and I have to say, she has made a difference that is amazing. The testing scores (which personally she hates all the standardized testing but is forced to do by your government) have gone up tremendously with her classes, the highest in the school. Yes, she DOES WORK MORE than 8 hours a day. She has to be there at 7 and can't leave until 4:30....last time I checked that was 9-1/2 hour days. She has to eat with her children, and any "break" she gets is spent tutoring children to catch up or doing endless paperwork for the No Child Left Behind garbage. Her children truly love her and it shows. She worries endlessly about them, knowing so many of them go home where the parents aren't there, they work nights shifts, the children are alone all night. They don't eat dinner..many of them have only one meal and that's the one at school. She takes food to school and sticks it in their backpacks to take home because their lazy parents could care less and many are not even there at night. Some go home on Friday and don't eat again until Monday at school.
Don't blame the teachers for low performance at school. Teachers cannot MAKE lousy parents into good caring parents, they can't make the parents stop bar hopping and slutty mothers stop bringing home a different man every night and the kids see this trash. Teachers can't make the parents see that the children do their homework. They're not allowed to tell the parents to grow up and raise their child and stop acting like children themselves. Some of the kids come back to the school after hours to sit with her in the classroom because they dread going home because no one is there and they are scared. No doubt, there are a few bad apples when it comes to teachers, but there are WORSE parents who are responsible for the lack of their child's performance in the school system.
No one could pay me enough to put up with the trash she has to put up with every day. And to boot, at this school she has a joke of a principal who DOES GET A BONUS, not the teachers. And where is this 4% raise every year. She isn't getting it. She does not get this glorious paycheck you refer to and during the summer, she is tutoring kids to keep them from failing their grades against all odds. She spends her own money and does without herself, to buy things for the children they should have but don't. I personally have bought shoes and things their parents should get off their butts and get their children. These mothers seem to be able to afford expensive hairdos and fingernails, but can't afford shoes for their kids? The fathers....well, who knows where in the h*** they're at.....producing more babies I'm sure. When parents grow up and realize their responsibility to their children, then maybe the school can get better. Teachers are not supposed to be their parents, but many feel they have to be.
of course, most teachers would give a different
story, just as most MTs will tell you that they don't make enough to survive or they are living near poverty, but that's not really true either. Most people would say the same thing about any profession they choose.
And I thought gym teachers were mean
when I was in school! Argh! I'd be furious too.
Teachers from Hogwarts?
A ghost and a ghost buster?
(I'm looking at a flier from a costume shop).
They have a $70 Davy Jones costume that's unbelievable.
They also have male and female Spartan cheerleader costumes. Does your hubby look anything like Will Ferrell? Those are each $30 though. They have a Dickk Cheney mask. If your DH has hunting clothes he'd be set. You could go as a gunshot victim.
(Mr. Cheney's first name is a dirty word on this board - how funny).
Remember teachers can
make all the difference in a child's ability to learn. If the teacher is not good at actually teaching (which many are not!), you might want to see if there is another teacher to choose from.
If the &*%& government would let teachers...
and heck, even students arm themselves, we wouldn't be sending lambs to the slaughter like that. They would've at least had a fighting chance. If I'm going to die, give me the chance to die while fighting to protect myself and others. Why should the criminals be the only ones who can arm themselves? This is a very heated topic 'round these parts where it seems they want to take our right to protect ourselves away at every corner.
Didn't one of our fellow MTs on this board here have a daughter who got into some serious doo-doo at her school for having pepper spray on her keychain? Explain to me how THAT makes sense to punish a kid, or parent, for wanting to give them a fighting chance and protecting themselves.
Honestly, I think teachers should
refer to students, no matter how old they are, by their first name, always.
Just to avoid misundertandings, like this one!
But teachers often have to use own money to pay for supplies
ujk
Most teachers have at least one planning period when they
can grade papers. If their job requires work-related hours away from school, they are given comp time.
underpaid teachers - what a joke!
I agree that teachers have all this extra work they have to do in their own time, but don't forget about all the paid time off they demanded; spring break, Christmas break, plus the fact that they get most of the summertime off with pay. I think that more than makes up for the extra time they have to put in while school is in session. I have a friend who is in the highest paying school district in Ohio and upon retirement, he and his wife will both be making 80K plus on their pensions. What's so god awful about that!!!!! Winning 10K may not be so great either by the time they pay taxes on it and add it to their income, possibly kicking them into a higher tax bracket. That can be considered a good or bad winning.
Yes, compliments and gifts are the better way, especially with teachers!..
Also, I think your child will not want that you pick a fight with his/her teacher.
My sister and her husband are both teachers in Atlanta and -
The word is that many teachers will pass kids out of their current grade just to get rid of them. They tell me the biggest fear of the teachers is to have to teach the same problem child twice! They also say that some parents INSIST that their child be passed no matter what. So sad because it is the children who suffer!
Not many teachers just "work" during the hours school is in
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Agree. Teachers of future generations should be better
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It is NOT the teachers place to tell a child that Santa doesn't
yeah I just might sue as well!
Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.
We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.
I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.
paid
Do you actually know how much he gets paid? Yes, great that he won 10 g's. My MIL is a teacher and she gets paid great. No underpaying there at all. It all depends where you work. Sometimes i question she is teaching our children the future?????
Paid for Doing their Job
My point was it's a good amount of pay for the hours put in. There are lots of jobs where the pay doesn't come any where close to what is deserved (sound familiar?), but that's not exclusive to the teaching profession.
If parents would be parents, teachers could be teachers. When my son was in high school I always attended the parent-teacher night. One of his teachers said something that rang so true. When I asked how my son was doing he replied, "He's doing great. Every parent I've met tonight has a son or daughter who is doing just great. Of the ones who are lost, struggling and failing, I have yet to meet one of their parents tonight." We talked for a bit and he told me regardless of the phone calls to home, the letters, the one-on-one time with a student in trouble, the parents never pitched in, never made an effort, and he was losing the battle with those that needed help.
I will never say say teachers have it easy. Teaching is a tough job. A social worker has a tough job. A roofer has a tough job. A nurse has a tough job. Where does it end? There are a multitude of underpaid professionals in our society. If you go into the teaching profession for the love of the job, so be it. You know, or should know, what the average salary is before you make the decision to get your degree. Eyes should be wide open.
Back to the beginning: hour for hour, day for day, if the time clock was punched, the salary and benefits a teacher earns is pretty darn good. Go after the parents for them to do THEIR job so the teacher can do what his/her salary reflects: TEACHING.
paid help
I am so blessed. My mom comes in once a week and does my bathrooms, kitchen/utility floors, vacuums, dusts. Has been doing this for years. I think if you can get someone for $15.00/hr. go for it. Mom only charges $10.00 an hour for her paying customers. Refuses to take money from me. Good luck!
I paid
the month thing so I can go on-line and that is helping me to keep with it and not get discouraged too. I figure it is a healthy way to eat and I paid so I may as well give it a month. I had foot surgery and have just been able to start walking with little to no pain now so that may help too. Thanks again!
I have paid $50.00 and tipped $10.00 sm
but I don't really get my haircut too often and when I do, I love to make it a day just for me at a nicer salon, so I don't mind spending the cash. I like to feel like a "rich *itch stay-at-home while hubby works nothing better to do but spend his money lady" just for ONE DAY. Between the house, kids, and typing, I find it hard to make time just for me! So, if I get the chance and need a day to myself, I tend to make a hair appointment and then maybe go shopping for a new purse (my other luv). I have too many as it is, but I love purses and shoes and always have! I would babysit all week as a teenager just to purchase an expensive purse! Wish I had all that money now, but... it sure was FUN! 
I always tip 10-15%, but I have never paid $65 just for a haircut...
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For those of you who have paid help with the house ..
What I am wanting from someone is an hour each morning (M-F) to do:
1) Make 2 beds (changing sheets 2 times a week)
2) Vacuum 1000 sqft (with about 300 of it not carpet - sweep)
3) Unload dishes from dishwasher/load any dirty ones
4) Swish the toilet down and wipe down the bathroom sink/mirror
5) Drop any trash at the trash bin as they leave
My questions:
1) Do you think this is reasonable to be done in an hour?
2) I am thinking of offering $15 an hour...Too much? Too little?
Thanks
well of course they have paid for it in other ways.
for the poor. That's a just society. I would gladly pay $6 a gallon for gas if my health care were free and my children were going to college for free. That would be a bargain!
Paid bills
Paid bills and planned with DH about how we can make more money so we can do more than just "pay bills". Watched a scary movie tonight. Tomorrow it will be work and some household chores. Gosh what an exciting life! I'd like to do a little more with my life than just "exist".
Maybe someone else paid the bill for you.
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I have economized and it has paid off sm
I live in a mobile home I bought excessively used. It is fully paid for. My car is 1996 and while it has 123K for mileage, it is still running just fine and I am told will go to 200K. It is paid for. I own a lovely piano, paid for. Clothing I either make or buy on the sale tables from Walmart. I especially like that most of my tops only cost me $3 or $5. I take good care of my clothing and much of it I have had for several years. Since I have chosen carefully I like what I have. Same for shoes. Same for what little costume jewelry I have. Same for my budget bedding. I buy household stuff second hand because I like certain tacky nick nacks from the 1950s. I even shop for the lowest prices at second hand shops.
Now, I have not had a vacation in 13 years, it is true. I am just now getting used to having to take 2 full days off every week and managing those 2 days without sitting down to work is hard. I do, however, have a lovely home and no debt.
I only work one job and I do pretty well ($40K a year). I am able to have enough taxes withheld not to worry about it. I have insurance too. After that, I can pay my bills and I manage to put back about $500 to $700 a month, depending on my line counts. I have no idea what I am saving for right now, but it feels good to watch the numbers climb. I literally put every fourth paycheck in the savings account. I DO eat what I want when I want. I have also stock piled canned foods because of food prices. I buy lost leaders at the grocery store for the most part. If it has a store special tag on it, I am going to choose it over something else.
I am at a point where I don't use the car, but about twice a month to go the bank, which is not close enough to walk to. There is no place close I'd go out to eat even if I were inclined, which I am not. I am an avid sale and clearance shopper, and while I am not longer at the point in my life where this is a necessity, it is so ingrained (did I spell that right?) that I can't stop. Some people may get off on buying an expensive item, but I get my thrills out of seeing how little I can spend to get what I want. Example is a flat pack entertainment center I wanted. Original price was $120 and I got it for $32. Nothing wrong with it and it was easy to put together, just clearing out for new styles. I had wanted one for a year before I bought this one, but found that price and jumped on it with great joy.
Since I know perfectly well that working harder and longer is not really an option, I chose to cut my spending and now I am really happy.
You know I would have paid the friend SM
even though it would be a hardship. But after his last comment about "don't ask me to stay and put things in the right place," I said thanks, but no thanks...
Help is a safety net you have paid for sm
Food stamps are a safety net we all pay for, all forms of public assistance are things we have been paying for all along. TAKE the help you need! Do move closer to family if you possibly can.
I have been in your shoes myself. I lost my home to foreclosure 4 years ago because of having a near-fatal drug interaction and losing my job of nearly 7 years. I made a couple of moves and finally ended up in a small town out of state from where I had lived for 30 years. I lived with a close friend for about 9 months and had the opportunity to buy a mobile home for $3000. The people I bought it from said I could make payments and I was able to pay it off in 5 months. It needed a lot of work and it has gotten it, most of which I have done myself. This project really helped me to regain parts of myself I had lost. It gave me a reason to get up and get going on my days off. I turned this ugly old thing into a lovely, comfortable home I cherish. I have lost about 50-60 lbs since living here and I have brought the idea of vastly cutting expenses in line with making more money. The end result is that I am very well off financially, better than in my entire life.
DO get medication to help you if you can. I didn't have medication to help because I am allergic to every psychotropic in existence. I did this by pulling myself up by the boot straps, but if I could have had help, I would have. There IS a brighter future out there. You CAN have that brighter future because you DESERVE IT. That said, no one expects you to get there alone!!!
Don't be embarrassed to ask and receive help. You will be able to help others later. Years ago, when my kids were young, I was a single parent, no support and it was Christmas time. My kids didn't even have adequate clothing or food. A neighbor I hardly knew handed me a Christmas card. Inside was a $100 gift card to K-Mart. She said that many years before that, she had been in my shoes and someone had given her $100 one Christmas, she was now paying this forward to me. The only provision was that I return this favor when I could, and that I bought something for myself too because I deserve nice things for my hard work. It was a turning point for me. I have been more of a giver since. Although I could have paid this back last year, I didn't know anyone who would appropriately benefit. This year, I do and I had to tell her that I was going to do this and why. She cried and felt embarrassed because, she said, she was usually in the position to give and it hurt a little to receive. I reminded her that she was GIVING me the gift of giving with pleasure.
Others are going to give to you with pleasure, love, friendship and concern for your well being. TAKE IT. One day you'll post back here about how good things are and I'll want to hear it.
Just paid $1.67 here near Richmond, VA- sm
we are about 45 minutes east of Richmond, and have 5 gas stations within 6 miles of each other, and one recently reopened after being closed for over a year (was just doing car repairs, closed the pumps) and has been undercutting all the competition. The other stations are at $1.77 or higher.
You are under 30 and your house paid for?
Did you get at auction and you were the only one?
I just got paid today
and want to be lazy tonight, so I am going to order a pizza to pick up when I get off work for me and the bf. So much for trying to watch what I eat 
oops...should be *never paid quarterly*
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ET paid 4 million is what I read
My X never paid a dime - he still had his "rights." (sm)
You seem to be so afraid that you will lose all your rights. Why would you think this? I can't see how you would. Don't let him scare you. If you can't afford a lawyer, go to Legal Aid. They helped me immensely when my X refused to return kids after a visit.
mine always paid their own insurance
so they can understand what happens to the rates!
Betcha' she's gettin' PAID . (nm)
The "rag man" paid by the pound sm
My mom used to threaten to "sell us" to the rag man and when she was really mad, she would tell us she was "putting us in a 'home'." Yes, there were a lot of "homes" for unwanted kids then and there was also a "poor house." Oh gosh, I feel so old! And kids today think they have it bad when they can't play video games for the day!
We paid cash, spent about
$1000 total for grandkids and gifts for each other. We are debt free except our house. There is nothing like being able to sleep well at night and not be afraid to answer the phone should it ring. We have lived this way for many years, have learned to save money, pay cash for what we want. This has been to our benefit as we haven't had our CC companies drop our limits or increase our percentage rates at all; in fact, our limits keep rising even though we only use them once or twice a year. The thought of having to pay for something many months and years later is baffling to me.
She probably paid the actors to come to Chicago and act it out for her!
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I got you beat on the price you paid
I will not tell you what year I bought my home but it was 15,500. Yep, 2 bedrooms, 1 bath and stayed for a long time. Sold about a year or so ago for 165,000. I had added on over the years and had 2 baths and 3 bedrooms when sold plus other updates. Pretty good profit, huh?
Just to think years ago paid $$$ for Botox and now
(this is in follow up to the moving eyes, which neurologist says has nothing to do with 1 another) I had about 5-6 shots in my face yesterday to stop the muscle twitching that started about 4 weeks ago. Testing including MRI both brain and carotids done, ok and then lab work for the B12, 6 and thus done and so far on the left hand side has quieted them down but doc says can take sometimes between 4-6 weeks to see results. He did not inject that place in between your eyes on your forehead where that line is though, heck, missed that one.
They see someone driving a nice car who paid for food sm
with food stamps, and this is where we began. They have no knowledge of income, housing, if that person owns that car or not, etc, etc. It is all jealousy and rage against a system they do not understand. As I said in the beginning, if you want to change it, then start by trying to change the regulations.
I've never paid and quarterly and never been fined either
nm
To restore credit, get a card that is pre-paid and use that
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Huh. Paid for chores. Watta country!
Ha!
thought you said you offered to or paid for your children's
if you had that kind of money, that does not seem to meet welfare criteria to me.
Of course he should help and he paid child support because they are his kids (nm)
x
We have grown children and paid up condo. SM
I think about advice I would give others. Getting any part-time job I could, delivering papers, selling Avon (people still buy Avon), renting room out in house. If elderly people near you, offer transportation or shopping service. One thing is, no matter what, no one should just sit around waiting for another job, be they male or female.
I was wondering how she paid for fertility treaments. sm
A single mom with 6 kids, paying for fertility tx, it didn't add up to me. Some foreign heiress was all I could think of. Bizarre however it unfolds.
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