So corporate cheating is fine
Posted By: but wrong for the little guy on 2008-04-25
In Reply to: You're missing the point entirely. - SM
You said - However, it does NOT justify lying, cheating, stealing insurance dollars and benefits just because you don't like it.
What do you call it when someone pays their premiums for years, they are told they are covered, then the insurance company decides they don't have to pay? Sounds like what you just described above. But it happens every day, and its supposedly OK, because its business, I used to do medical billing, outrageous how many claims were denied because the ordering physician didn't do a precert, the insurance company decided it was unneccessary, or some other little loophole. The providers didn't get paid, the patient ended up in collections,,,and IMO the patient was lied to, stolen from, and cheated out of his insurance dollars and benefits.
BTW, I do make my own money. I'm just not too pleased at handing large chunks of it to an insurance company, knowing they will diligently seek reasons to deny a claim, even if I play by all their ever changing rules and memorize my policy. And that includes the entire insurance industry, be it medical, LTD, life, auto, or homeowners insurance.
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Corporate scandals
What gets me about these scoundrels is their lack of ethics, and the insult to the pubic when Ken Lay spoke of being a Christian - pleeeze!!! A psychiatrist explained that it is really not about the money with these pigs, it's about control - they have plenty of money, but they have a deep sickness to control, to feel control.
Wal-Mart corporate policy states....sm
that if you ask the person at the kiosk overseeing the self-check out lines to check you out they have to. Wal-Mart has gotten a bad reputation for not hiring people and then claiming their lack of check out lines being manned by humans is due to not having enough staff. Bull crap - if you pay well you can get good employees. I NEVER check myself out and provide free labor. I rarely go there but when I do, if there's more than 4 people in line ahead of me then I go to the self-check out lines and have the person overseeing them check them out. A couple of times they gave me flack about it and I requested the store manager be called... and then the store manager made them ring me up because the manager knew it was corporate policy.
My husband has asked the manager why they even have 20 checkout lines when he's never seen more than 2 cashiers working at any time of the day. Good question I say!
Call the corporate office, can be found easily enough on internet....
I've done it a few times with McDonalds. Got tired of getting halfway home and realizing something I paid for was missing, again!
It doesn't matter "where you stand." What works for you is fine. What works for me is fine.
Comparing ourselves as to frequency is ridiculous.
Thanks everyone.....No he is not cheating
Last time he said he was "in love" with someone else, but she had her own family and stayed comitted to it, and he came back to me and has had nothing to do with her since. There is no one else this time, I am sure of that. I am almost willing to pretend that conversation never took place and if he is willing to stay with me for the kids, then that should be enough. But I don't want him unhappy, I still love him, and I suppose I deserve to be with someone I love too, but my kids and their happiness come first and foremost, before mine. I could be happy with him as long as he was content. I don't want him to stay though if he is just going to be an angry, unhappy person. I have thought of marriage counselling, he might be willing to try it. I am willing to try anything at this point.
Those cheating men
Over the last couple of weeks and especially in the last week 2 different families that have been much in the news, 1 family on a TV program and another family in government. Both husbands have been seen, caught, accused of having a child outside his marriage, another husband supposedly was going with a young teacher. Both of these men's spouses have taken their husband's sides, defending them, maybe even looking inward and seeing if possibly something the woman did was wrong. How would you react if your husband or significant other. Would you defend, get mad, get even or what?
Cheating men
Dateline tonight had a VERY interesting show on regarding this subject and people said as well it could be genetic - hmmmmm
Actually when my dad was cheating on my mom...sm
He has always left his cell phone laying around when home. Then she noticed he started keeping it in his pocket at all times. He even took it to the bathroom to get a shower. Or she actually found it hidden under a pile of dirty clothes one time when he was in the shower. He didn't want her to pick it up and see the calls on there.
What makes you think he's cheating on you?
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Cheating spouses
I look at it this way, when you cheat on your spouse in the eyes of the Lord your marriage is dissolved anyhow. If my spouse ever cheated on me, I would definitely not stick it out for companionship or otherwise. It would just not be worth it to me because there would be massive trust issues from that point on. Just not worth it. For goodness sake, I would buy a dog before I would stay in a loveless marriage always wondering if my spouse was getting ready to cheat again!
Kind of cheating
At work our user names are the first four letters of our last name and the first two of our first name. Mine came out Horski which I kind of liked and on the boards, no one knows my gender right away too. I'm female by the way! You trying to pick something?
Cheating Spouse?
Have you ever caught your spouse cheating? If so, how did you catch him/her?
cheating spouse
I worked day shift and he worked 3-11 so for a few years we would hardly see each other at all. First, let me say that my husband is kind of messy. I would notice that when I came home from work, my home was in the same order that I left it in the morning. Even the curtains had not been opened yet. There were no dirty dishes. There was no sign anybody had been home all day. I would ask and he would always have an excuse..went to play golf before work, went to a ball game, had lunch with the guys, etc.
Then a woman started calling the house in the evening asking for my husband. I would say he was at work, ask if I could take a message and she would say no and hang up. She would call about 3 to 4 evenings a week. I asked my husband who she was and he would say he didn't know.
Then, HER husband called and left a message on our machine one day while we were out. He didn't say any names, just said stay away from my wife or I'm going to come over and beat your a$$. I asked who was that and my husband said he didn't know.
This all happened over about 4 months when he was offered a transfer with work out of state and we took it. He never admitted having an affair but I know he did. That was 16 years ago. We are still together and before everyone flames me, I will tell you that the man has paid dearly for that little fling. We've never discussed it because how can you discuss something he won't admit to? He didn't leave the house for years without taking 1 or all the kids with him, even to the grocery store or the post office. He never got to do anything he wanted to do, no more boys night out, no more golf weekends, etc. It got to the point where I was feeling sorry for him but he never said a word.
Now that we're in our 50s, I wish someone would take him so he'd leave me alone!
hubby cheating
I had a friend years ago who hid in the back of her hub's camper-cover pickup when she suspected he was going to see the other woman one night. He had a little *bed* in truck. She caught them and filed for divorce, later remarried and happy as a lark for 30 years now.
Cheating spouse/boyfriend, etc.
Many years ago I was married to a cheating spouse. I was pregnant with our second child when he took it upon himself to cheat with an underage girl in the back of our brand new station wagon. Well, I learned about this when a paternity suit came up with his name on it. Apparently he was so dumb that he did not know the girl had a boyfriend and being the sucker that he was he did not know that they would pin the paternity on him, and get money from him. Too bad it wasn't in this day and time because he would have been in jail because she was only 17, and he was in his 30s. This was only 1 in a string of women that I found out after the fact, and even contracted an STD when I was pregnant!! I also suffered spousal abuse, and have the scars to prove it. After 5 years of this I got out,and the only reason I stayed was for the children, but that was a huge mistake on my part. Now, whenever, I hear or see this on a program it makes me furious that these men think this behavior is okay. It is never okay and leaves many people, including children, to suffer much heartache.
Good for Kate! Who needs a cheating man.
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I understand the problem with cheating by using phones
and my children do carry the cells to school but keep them turned off and in their locker....which kinda defeats the purpose of being able to call in an emergency but I do know the problem it can become. The kids are also not supposed to have them on field trips that are just for the day (they are allowed to take them on overnight trips). Well, my son was on a high school field trip to VA Tech on Apr. 16. If hadn't had a teacher that allowed them (just don't abuse them) we would not have known for hours that he was okay. I went to the middle school that very afternoon and spoke to the principal about my DD taking her phone on a field trip and the principal said that it would be okay. That's good, cuz she was taking it no matter what.
If I knew there was a history of cheating on former wives,
then my opinion would be different. I think that once cheating occurs, it is more likely to be repeated in future relationships. Not saying that this is your case, but it would worry me.
My rant: I agree cheating on one's spouse is never SM
acceptable. The one thing that REALLY bothers me, is that men claim that they have to cheat, since sex with their wives is no longer exciting and that their wife won't do what paid companions will and my thought is always the same "Did you ASK her?". If they ask nicely, I'm sure loving wives would be more than willing to comply. Within reason, of course.
How far would you go (or would you) to find out if your husband/lover was cheating?
I am married now and never even think of his cheating or even worry about it, just do not have a feeling like that but in the past married to a real dog. I then checked his pockets, his shirt collars (for lipstick, makeup), phone calls and on and on. How far would you go and what have you found?
Strange question. I punched my ex when I found out what a cheating SOB he was. SM
I personally haven't been punched in the face since I was 20ish and I'd like to keep it that way. 
That's fine for you
Don't knock anyone other's way. It's not normal to have irregular periods. It's hard enough to keep track of my own (which I do, PCOS and all), so why not jot it down so I know my daughter(s) isn't going through something just chalked up to being a teenager when something might be wrong? People know if they haven't had a BM in a week; that's certainly not normal. However, that is easier to make a mental note of than periods. Sure, it's not something anyone wants to talk about over the family roast and potatoes, but it's something that needs attention. Jotting a letter down is far less invasive than asking how many pads are saturated in a day or something (which I would certainly anyway do if there was a problem).
We are nurses (hubby and I) and we like to keep on top of things when they are out of whack. I'll take the reins on this one when this is an issue for us.
That's just fine with me!
Just reading that list put me in the Holiday SPIRIT! Now between your cookies and that egg nog with laying under the tree (no not under the table, under the Christmas tree), you are all definitely getting me there... now to walmart for Charlie Brown music and to put money in Salvation army (I know type-A again). LOL. Anybody got more cookie recipes, there's a lot of pauses in between dictations here.... Thanks again! :)
It's probably just fine to eat...but..sm
if you're concerned you can always create homemade alpo or fancy feast and put in in ziplocs and freeze it....It's better than the stuff in the can and my animals love vegetables and real meat mixed with their dry food. Just an idea.  Cat
As far as I know, he's fine. sm
My dad does not take care of himself. He's physically fit, but he smokes, been smoking since a young teen. He eats whatever (fried foods, hamburgers, etc). My dad doesn't go to the doctor. He has a family history of cancer and heart disease. His mom died in her 40s of cancer. I think he's afraid of getting cancer/heart disease. In his mind not knowing is better. He's the type where if I'd say "Dad, I'm concerned about your health, I wish you'd quit smoking", he'd smoke even more. I'm afraid my parents will not live to be old people. Neither one of them eat well and they both smoke (no offense to anyone who smokes). My mom's dad has had a heart attack and her brother has had a heart attack. My dad had a really rough childhood, and I think he needed some counseling, but that would never happen. He's very head strong and hard headed. Thanks for listening. I'm very happy with my family (hubby and two boys), so I try to focus on being a better parent than my dad was to me growing up.
Their dad is fine - where would you have them go? (sm)
People amaze me when they think kids should be ripped out of an imperfect home and thrown to the wolves....do you not think these children would be sad, upset and terrified and scarred for life to be torn from their family? They are not being abused or treated badly. There is no reason to suggest taking the kids from their parents that is just ridiculous!!
If their Dad is fine then enough is enough sm
The Dad has to protect these kids then from the fallout of what the Mom has chosen to do if it is truly what the original poster has outlined. He shouldn't let them hear any conversation that has to do with a "booty call" - that is not language meant to be in children's lives, sorry but if he's that great, then the posting person should get together with him and map out a plan for the fallout from the mother's foolish move and the words "booty call" should never be used in these children's presence. Just reading that post cries out for help for these kids, the words are very volatile and crying for help. Read the post again and one can't simply expect these kids are not going to hear some pretty grown-up stuff over this ordeal. Poor kids don't need to be in the middle of this. Not suggesting throwing them to the wolves, normal thinking would be a caring family member protecting them, not the cops or the state, for Pete's sake, read it again. "Booty call" - not Parents Magazine talk!
Went through it fine without anything...
just some OTC Estroven, which worked well for me. I'm 48, started peri around 44, have gone over a year without my period...done! Some hot flashes and mood swings, nothing I couldn't handle. My doc wanted to put me on BCP, gave me a script, but I didn't bother filling it. Had my levels checked, doc said congrats, you had a fairly uneventful menopause. I don't like to take drugs of any kind....too many women out there are taking a handful of pills just to try to get through the day; not my style. There is something to be said for eating right, exercise and a healthy, happy frame of mind. I don't want to take a pill to be happy, take a pill to sleep, take a pill to lose weight because I have no self-control with food. To each her own...natural worked for me.
It will probably be fine
I agree with what the above poster says, about separating them and making the introductions gradual. You might find that you cat loves having a friend. Of course, he will act like he hates her when you're around, that's a kitty act and they're really good at it. But when he thinks you're not looking, he'll probably play with her and really enjoy the company. Good luck.
In between fine but those flares....
like woke up Friday morning just a big ache. I got very upset 1 time and that night almost had to go to the ER, in that much pain, worse than any childbirth have ever been thru. Talking about the memory, thank goodness doing MTing have lots on auto because in every day life have to write myself notes or would forget everything. Took half tablet of pain pill today but then could hardly finish my paper and can't do that when working, would be zzzzzz at the computer.
Had 1 just recently - that was fine
within the past 4 months, so next step??
That's all well and fine but it goes both ways
Then Christianity and even the mention of God should be kept out of all forms of government, local to federal.
I guess only Muslims can be terrorists. Was McVeigh Muslim? Stop generalizing.
Oh, and what is a mosk?
I'm sure if I was an American Muslim I would be welcome at a mosque.
I'm sure you'd welcome a Muslim with open arms into your congregation.... after he goes through the metal detector.
Okay, I'm done.
Ceremony was fine...
I just thought maybe something interesting would pop up. Just nothing exciting, in my opinion.....
If her numbers are fine
I would not worry. If the drugs are toxic and make her feel worse, then it really is about the quality of her life. Take care.
Got mine fine but sm
Yahoo is very, VERY glitchy. Sometimes you will get 25 emails from several months ago. My blog on Yahoo 360 has disappeared about three times. Blog comments also come and go.
If you are using your Yahoo email for business, you might consider switching over to Hotmail. They have just upgraded to Windows Live Hotmail and it is very similar to Outlook Express.
JMHO.
Really? I'm 50 and it works fine for me; however, sm
I do use a good moisturizer before applying. I also have to use a bit extra of cream make-up to conceal redness and then apply the Bare Minerals.
I think the letter is fine (sm)
until it reaches the "Bullying is..." paragraph. I would have left that section out. At that point, it appears you are attempting to psychoanalyze these children, which is strange (and arrogant).
Thanks honey! We would be fine without my job thanks
to living right and not beyond one's means. And BTW, bon bons are fattening, you won't catch this MT with seat spread! Well, this has been fun, but my work day is done and Christmas vacation has begun! So, toodles to you all. Very Merry Christmas!
it will be fine without the vanilla. nm
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BTW my FIL recovered just fine - sm
and that was almost 9 years ago.....he whined for about 2 years that he was dying though, have no clue how my MIL lived with it. He will be 79 in March and doing very well.
I think that is just fine. Plus, I have found...
that most old people like my child, although I find old women to be less tolerant than old men. I wonder why that is. Maybe because they are the ones who spent the majority of the time with their own children? I certainly did not think anyone whould watch my child for me, just maybe not be so quick to judge, especially those who have never had children of their own.
You'll be fine and so will she.
Wow! You should be very proud of 38 years of full-time mothering!
The way I see it, you have two issues here. I think you acknowledged both in your post. One issue is letting go of your youngest child, your only daughter. But the other issue is the what-do-I-do-with-myself-issue. You've been raising children for 38 years, and now YOUR life is going to change. That's probably the biggest part of this transition, in my opinion. You have to be about your own business now.
I went through all of this myself. There were days when I wanted to feel sad and lonely in my now-quiet house. But there were days that were so much fun, because I could simply do whatever I wanted and not have to worry about kids at home. Gradually, the fun days came more frequently, and that situation was the norm for me.
It's like any life transition. You have to get used to it. And getting used to thinking about yourself first is a big transition for any mother, especially one whose been mothering since 1970! You deserve the time. And your daughter deserves the opportunities you've given her. You'll still be close, but in a more adult way. It doesn't have to be the way you describe your relationship with your grown son. With your daughter, you may still have very detailed conversations, but yes, you are going to have to get used to there being long stretches of time between those conversations and visits. But you will get used to it.
And I'd like to disagree with the poster who didn't like the idea of a young woman traveling the world. I think that's exciting and wonderful. She'll learn so much from traveling. It really makes me bristle when people say that women shouldn't go places or do things because it's "dangerous". Every moment of life on earth has some sort of danger attached to it. And yes, some things perhaps are more "dangerous" than others. But I know people who limit their experiences in an effort to avoid danger, and I just think it's sad. I don't consider myself a risk taker, but there are just too many wonderful things in the world. Life is as precious as any valuable gift you can imagine. And like a valuable gift, it should be used and not locked up for display purposes. I hope your daughter has amazing experiences in her life, and I hope she comes back to you and shares her excitement with you. And while she's doing those things, you go right ahead and get out there, too! Go do something for yourself or with you husband! Ballroom dancing sounds like fun!
I transcribe for a PT and she is doing fine - sm
my checks have actually got up a little lately by maybe $20 or so every 2 weeks. I don't think she is going anywhere.
You'll be fine....
This is not unusual. You are young. I'm 38; hubs 35. We've been married for 17 years. You'll have times when you miss the single days, but you'll also have times when you're glad you have your better half. This is all normal. You are not crazy.
What you can do though is ask him if it would be okay to be uninhibited and spontaeous at least once a month. Maybe one month you pick something you'd like to do (like go out and have a beer) and the next month it's his turn.
I think the doom and gloom of this profession and the economy has people wondering "is this it?" Well, yes, to a degree it is, but life is so short! Party it up! Have children a little later or now, whichever suits you.
I, however, do not see anything wrong with your feeling the way you do. We all would love to run for the hills at some point, but we need a stay point as well. It's all healthy human nature!
You will be fine. I got married sm
right out of highschool (6 weeks) and have been married 36 years come July. I remember in the early days having feelings like that. You love your husband, you have a good marriage and your feelings are normal. Whatever you do, don't give it up looking for greener pastures! Too many marriages give it up for reasons that you are stating...which are not reasons to throw in the towel and they are sorry later.
Way down the road when you mature a whole lot more, you won't regret it.
My advice is that she will be fine with MIL visiting.....
There is a fine line hear.....
Your terms "pestering us" in reference to your children is wrong. It sounds like there is verbal abuse and child neglect going on in your home (baby hungry and dirty). You might want to watch what you post here as this is now in black and white that you have not been properly taking care of your children. I want to support you, but it doesn't sound like even you (the poster) are interested in taking care of the children either. GROW SOME NADS!!! If I were you, I'd seek help from social services in your state.
Fine. But that wasn't my point.
There's no need to jump all over someone who wants to help. I applaud the unselfishness.
I think it is perfectly fine, as you have to wear it, not him!
I did not pick out the exact ring, but definitely discussed the cut and style I wanted. My feeling is if a man truly cares about the woman he would want to get her the ring SHE wants, not the one he can afford or the one he picks out. I'd be more worried about that to be honest. JMO
my computer updated just fine--sm
with the downloaded windows update, but my smartset alarm clock did not. This is the SmartSet I am referring to, not my computer. thanks though.
FedEx or UPS will be fine if you pack it
It is how they come to you if shipped! lol
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