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Posted By: Doctors on 2009-06-11
In Reply to: Tell them it is against your religion. - Doctors

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Good. and weight is not the only thing--sm
that causes the conditions mentioned. I have a big kitty too, and he really does not eat that much, but a mixture of one small 4 oz can of wet and perhaps about 1/2 c of dry per day. he is just a big cat, weighing 14 pounds at last visit. He is very timid and does not do much for play or exercise. Sometimes kitties are just big, like humans, and it is not always diet that makes them that way. I, too, would be very apprehensive in changing pet food right now. I love my kitties too and so far, am thankful that their food has not been one that has been recalled. Changing vets is easier than changing doctors, but if you are not happy, then move on. Personally, if one tried to give an attitude of forcefulness with me, vet or doctor, I would be gone in a heart beat. You may find a much nicer one down the road. Give your kitty a pet and mommy knows best. lol.
Just had a discussion about
You know so many kids are spoiled... literally. They expect all these high dollar items and when they get out in the real world they don't have a clue how to cope without these and don't realize that they need to WORK, that things don't just come to them. My mother questioned me last week because I mentioned my son (12) has been saving his money to buy a computer. I also told him he will have to pay a friend of ours to install the computer so he can get all the parental things setup. I want him to start getting a taste of what it's like to pay for his own things. He will respect it more. Don't get me wrong... he got a Wii system for Christmas and he does have a cell phone which is a very basic phone, doesn't have all the extras on it, and I have explained to him when he gets out of the house that will be his responsibility to pay for. He does extra things around the house for me to help pay that monthly bill too. It's just a shame that not more kids are actually expected to work a bit for what they have. My kids don't get an allowance either. I figure this is their home too. We ALL pitch in. No one pays me to clean. LOL.

I try to teach my children that Christmas is about GIVING, not receiving. We gave some money to a couple families in our church anonymously around Thanksgiving so they could buy a little extra for their families for Christmas. Our children are aware we did this and also are aware that we keep this to ourselves. I want them to realize there are too many people who are trying hard just to live day to day and go without a lot of things because of financial situations. Our family has been blessed in big ways (we are not loaded but we have our jobs, we have our health, and we have loads of love)and I want our family to share with others.
If I were, we would not be having this discussion. I
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My mom and I have this discussion often.
They live at a 62-over apartment facility and always talk about the people who have kids but never see them and how bad they feel for those parents, and how thoughtless those children are.

One never knows what goes on behind closed doors. You don't know how those kids were treated growing up. Not every parent deserves to be taken care of by their children. I have friends that have left home at 18 and never looked back. Just because the old folks look sweet doesn't mean they were good parents.
Do a search on this here - big discussion:-)
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Have you thought about having a serious discussion?
Seriously - marriage is all about conversation and discussion and communication - do it now and teach your kids - you can agree to disagree even!!  Just because one wants another child and another one does not should not mean you automatically do it or don't do it - but you need to discuss and move on.
You are funny. Maybe this discussion
will help:

http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15898

You could always give it away if the stress is too much, LOL.

I don't do inside plants either.
BTW, we did have a discussion with the youth about
what they thought he!! would be like. My hubby and I also included our pastor just in case they had questions we didn't feel qualified to answer. Boy did we ever get some wonderful answers. I myself always imagine fire and unbearable heat. One suggested being all alone in a small dark place for eternity. One suggested that if you had an intense fear, for example spiders, you would spend eternity in a room full of them with them crawling all over your body. I think God wants us to use our imagination when we think of different things, after all he gave us the imagination to use.
Actually I am new to this discussion and I admire
you for sticking it out with your kids. There is a lot of discussion about staying or leaving when you have kids - if the fighting gets to be too much, etc., maybe you should get out - but I think the kids deserve the best you can give them - and at this point that is the two of you together. I split with mine for 9 months 15 years ago - had 4 kids at the time - 2 were his - my girls have never gotten over the fact I left Dad for a while - but it made us a stronger family unit - and I am so glad I did leave shortly and more happy that I came back. Best of luck to you!!
Here's a whole discussion of people
battling mice and rats, with some ideas.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/ipm/msg0118535629276.html
Discussion has been moved..thx (nm)
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You are CRAZY. end of discussion, you are in your own....nm
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I am only 5Ƈ". When I weight my desired weight (sm)
my face looks bad - drawn.  I like myself best when I weigh about 140-150. 
Missed a lot of the discussion apparently - sm
What I don't understand is where you get that all unwed mothers are drug addicts or alcoholics.

That is not true at all. Sure, it happens to some but for you to lump unwed mothers into that category is terrible.

You don't know my personal circumstances. I don't know yours.

I'm just saying that I would like to help others that are in the same situation I was in way back when. Hopefully I would be able to help them so they don't have the struggles that I had.

Thankfully, my child and I were never homeless but I worked my tail off to make sure that didn't happen. I sometimes worked 2-3 jobs.

I also worked my way through school. I didn't get hand outs, didn't expect them either but it really would have been wonderful if someone was there to guide me to the things that I needed to do. Maybe it wouldn't have taken me so long to get to where I needed to be.

Absolutely nothing is free in this world and that would not be the point.

However, this is a dream we are talking about right? This isn't about socioeconomic dysfunction. It's about someone wanting to help someone else.
Update after discussion with hubby...sm
Don't worry clhmt... he has a "brainless" job - seriously but makes decent money doing it. (smile)

I did talk with him about it when he checked in on his lunch break and he's going to talk with his daughter about the note this evening. He's concerned about the "in and out" part as well but isn't convinced she has a problem because she has written negative notes to herself like this before... which in the past I've told him isn't normal and are cries for help but this is the worst one that has been found to date. I've pulled some info from the internet about bulemic patterns in teenagers to show him so hopefully he'll realize that I'm not just blowing smoke when I tell him that I'm concerned that she is bulemic. I just hope that he realizes that she has a problem and agrees to get her help, even if I just get him to agree to take her to a psychologist to discuss whether or not she has a problem.
Please take this discussion to the Christianity board.
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I remember that big long discussion
It went on for quite awhile.  I still don't think it's a good idea considering how short of a time it's been around.  I remember reading an old old ad on the internet about DES and it showed a smiling baby and said something about using it for every pregnancy.  We all know how well that turned out.  I hope PA doesn't make it mandatory either, because I will also have to fight it. 
Discussion topic today
How on earth did you get custody of your deceased ex's cremated remains? Did you divorce him after he died? LOL
Probably because it was a valid discussion topic below.nm
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Bringing Lost discussion up to top of board (major spoiler alert)

Okay, all you "Lost" fanatics, what are your theories now, and how have they changed? Who or what is Jacob? How did the "original inhabitants" of the island get there? They are mostly Caucasians with American accents, with a few exceptions. They don't look like the usual types of people who are native inhabitants of Polynesian islands - if, indeed, that is where the island is.


Why were Jack and Juliet keeping secrets from the rest of the group? If they had been honest and up front from the beginning about Juliet, maybe they could have all figured out a way to foil Ben's plans without bloodshed.


And will the island heal Locke? Obviously he is of major importance - I don't think Ben heard Jacob at all, and he was jealous and afraid when he realized Locke heard him. That's why he shot him. Ben is turning out to be an even bigger weasel than before.


And what exactly was the Dharma Initiative studying? Does Ben really know? After all, he was only a "work man" like his father.


For every answer, there are a dozen new questions - at least!  


Heads up! The Gab board is for general discussion not to include MT, Religion, or Politics.
This was put into place when we very first set up the Gab board.  We have a Christianity, Conservatives, and Liberals forum that you can post on.  But, let me be clear. I do not condone trashing of anyone's religious preference and neither should you.  I expect posts on any of these forums to be respectful (that does NOT mean we are censoring, there IS a difference).  This is NOT open for debate. These are the rules.  If you can't respect them, you don't need to post here.
Happiness is a heart thing; pleasure is a head thing.nm

weight
Buy less and tell him "this has to last until next Wednesday" or whatever. A calorie is a calorie, so eating "too much" is a habit you need to help him break.
Her weight has really come down
from around 13 or so to now 5 and I started her myself on kittie food (read it has more calories than cat food) and also an extra calorie boost that I got at Petsmart. The cat is feeding and drinking well but she is so skinny. The vet put her on additional med Friday saying possibly she was having organ failure- of course I know what that meant- hate to hear but my posting is I wondered if the sounding off just attention getting. I do not want in pain (I have enough of that for the both of us, ha!) but wondered if just wanting me to pick her up. Hard to do and type with just 1 hand!
weight
You GO Girl.....keep up the good work!! Don't let me catch you with a chocolate bar or something that is not on diet plan.......LOL....LOL....LOL...
You might try Weight Watchers sm
I know that it is an expense, but so worth it.  You can eat regular food, but most importantly, there are group meetings with lots of support.  You'll meet nice people of all ages with the same struggles, and the goals are not set too high at first.  It sounds like you feel alone, and you're not.  I found Weight Watchers to be helpful in that you can eat regular food and the instructors were really supportive.  We'd laugh and then get serious about our quests.  You may want to consider a counselor (not being mean here), but I hear your cry for help.  Why not make an appoint with your primary care doctor just to express your concerns.   You have the power (you are special ya' know)! 
My weight, unlike yours, has nothing to do with
the amount of attention I get from my husband, loads of that and I am overweight. He treats me like the love of his life. I would say to you maybe the body habitus you have really is not playing a part in the attention seeking you want. If I were thin, I really do not think my husband would be around. He told me no one wants a bone except a dog and they even try to hide theirs.....
well, i try to eat right. i need to lose some weight sm

so i do buy whole wheat stuff, bread, wraps, spaghetti. i buy low fat/fat free lunchmeats, 2% cheese.  i don't buy cupcakes and cookies (or else i'd eat them!)  i don't drink much milk, not that i don't like it, just don't drink it much.  i drink more water than anything.  i'll have about one diet dr. pepper a day.  i love food, it's just trying to stay on a healthy track.  my problem is i don't get enough exercise.  i have a 5 y/o and an 8 y/o that keep me busy.  but i do like to exercise. 


 


Try Weight Watchers instead.

But how did she lose all that weight?
She was really heavy and saw her lately in my weekly rags and so thin now.
My furries weight
I was just at the vets office this morning with my big boy and took him for something else and the physician thought they would take the time to admonish me about his weight, telling me to change his diet, no wet food, only dry, smaller bit 2x a day. I tried to explain in a nice way I did not mind cutting back now but definitely did not want to change brands at this time because of the food recall. As she persisted, I got more hot under the collar, finally telling her it would be much easier for me to cut back on his food than to give him the wrong kind (mine is 1 that has never had a recall and feel safe with it right now) than it would for my cat to go into renal failure - you cannot put a cat on dialysis. I think she sorta got the point and lightened up. Ridiculous for her to suggest such a thing at this time with my explanation of why not wanting to change foods.
weight loss
The only tried and true method for weight loss is to burn more calories than you take in. For me, that means eating healthy (no junk) and lots of exercise. I jog every morning and work out at the gym 3-4 times a week with weights. If you build muscle, your metabolism increases even at rest. It gets so hard as we age and harder after each baby so consistency is really important. Good luck!
weight loss
I am doing a diet called the Abs Diet.  There is a book available for it.  You eat 6 small meals per day, lots of fiber and wheat, turkey, almonds.  It has toning exercises targeted mostly for your stomach demonstrated in the book.  You weigh at the beginning, middle, and end of the plan - a 6 week plan.  In the first 2 weeks I lost 4 inches off my waist and dropped almost a point off my BMI.  I'm never hungry and because of the protein and healthy things I eat I don't crave junk food.  Of course, you have to drink 8 glasses of water per day, and they recommend if you must drink sodas to only have 2 per day, that is diet soda.  Go to www.absdiet.com to learn more about the plan.  Good luck!!
so, how much weight have you lost? nm
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I have had some weight loss
It hasn't been like a big dramatic thing, but I'm down about 5-6 pounds. I'm sure part of that is that I have been watching my fat and calories, but I actually feel like I'm eating pretty well. I have been more active, too, getting out and walking every night, working in the yard, and it's been hot and humid here in Wisconsin so I'm sure I've sweated some off. You know, I don't know if it works, but I do know I would pay more than $50 every 4-6 weeks for a personal trainer or motivator, and I kind of use this as my personal trainer. I know that I should watch my fat, and I don't try to have a big cheesy pepperoni pizza and take Alli to make it all go away, because I know then I might have those nasty treatment effects. But for the last week and a half, it has kept me honest in my eating for the most part, and for me that's worth it. I need to drop about 40 pounds to get to my goal, and I'm shooting for February to do that by, so I'm going for the slow steady loss, hopefully Alli will help me get there.
weight problem
My son, who is now 27, has always had a weight problem. I tried absolutely everything and nothing worked. I tried Weight Watchers, which has children's meetings and this worked the best. Also contact local hospital, sometimes they have children weight loss programs.
Your weight problem may be due to your
I hope you feel better soon.  Usually weight problems are psychological, and it sounds like you are under a lot of stress. 
That's a weight off your mind!
Glad it was just a contact allergy to something avoidable.

I can't touch roses myself.
I don't think you can be happy at any weight sm

I've never been skinny.  I am a happy person.  I would like to lose weight, but it isn't going to ruin my life if I'm never skinny.  I have a good marriage, 2 beautiful children, a job I enjoy, hobbies I enjoy, ect.


I know a woman though who weighs maybe 100 pounds soaking wet with her pockets full of rocks and she is the biggest B I know.  She is always grumpy and unhappy.  She dislikes anyone who is very happy and thinks they are just pretending for others to see.... then again I know a woman who is nearly 300 pounds with the same attitude. 


I don't think weight has anything to do with the happiness of the person, but rather the other things in life.


Weight loss
Good luck with your weight loss. I'm also trying to lose weight and am down 8 pounds. Do you know anyone who is in Weight Watchers? I couldn't afford to join, but my neighbor was a member and gave me all the pamphlets and I'm following the points system on my own. I also walk every night for about 30-45 minutes.
About Weight Watchers...(sm)
If you look hard enough, you can find the information to do "home-grown" Weight Watchers. Their point system is patented and therefore public information. Since you plug in little factoids about your food (calories, fat, and fiber) to come up with the points value and the number of points for your weight are available with a online search, it is possible to do this without the Weight Watchers meetings or online support. I did. I lost a buttload and kept it off. You can do it too. Now just jog/walk while you watch the TV and you're good to go--for free. I get all revved up to do exercise videos for about 3 days. I have wasted too much money on them. :)
Trying to lose weight

Has anyone tried Hoodia and does it work?


NO WEIGHT GAIN AFTER
When I had my TOTAL hysterectomy at age 30, my doctor told me that I should not use the excuse that I had a hysterectomy and gained weight. He said that was an excuse and if I gained weight, it certainly would not be because I had a hysterectomy. Well, I'm here to tell you (31 years later) I never gained "because" I had a hysterectomy. In fact, I never gained an ounce. Now, have thyroid problems and have LOST weight tremendously but not because of a hysterectomy or any other reason. Can't do the diet thing, because I don't have THAT kind of will power! Best of luck you to and all....
cat's weight loss

I've had cats for over 20 years.  If you haven't had labs drawn, I strongly suggest it.  We had to euthanize her (after spending at least $1K on subcu fluids, etc.), as her weight had gotten down to less than 4 pounds.  If (when) I had to do it over, I wouldn't put another cat through all that, even though I have a fabulous vet.  She had liver failure, and there's simply no cure for that. And there's really no way to know for sure about their pain level.  Sadly, it's common when they get past 10 years old.  But there are so many other cats out there who need loving homes. 


I hope this helps.  It's really heart-breaking.  They ask for so little, yet give SO much in return! 


I'm very sorry for your situation.


weight gain
I have gained a lot of weight since my daughter graduated from high school. . she was very active in school and in sports and I was active along with her. . now. not so much. . I still like to go out and be around people . . though not as much as I used to. . sometimes you have to just force yourself to do things. . I have also thought about some time in the future getting a job somewhere else just to be around people. .
weight gain
yes I have gained weight. And I have become unsocial. I have noticed I no longer want to get dressed anymore and when I go somewhere I cant wait to get back home and put on comfy clothes. I know other MTs who have the same problems.
I too have gained weight. . . sm
Only I have gained 50 pounds since July!

When you press on the skin (not the indendation from the chair), does it pop back up or stay indented? If it stays indented, it might be edema. I would go to the doctor though just to make sure everything is okay. I was suddenly having problems with swelling, and the doctor decided it was a medication I was taking that was causing the swelling.

I hope it isn't anything serious! Good luck!
I have gained weight .......
Well, I have... and my pants are tight. I just wanted those of you in the same boat to give me some sympathy! Congrats to those of you that have lost recently!! I have got to start eating better and moving. If Spring would "really" get here I would be outside alot more..good excuse anyway! I lost about 35 pounds last year and have gained about 15 back. I honestly am more concerned with the health aspect of carrying more weight around the middle than I am of looking better, although I will take that too. I have got to get motivated.

Weight Watchers Anyone?
I joined a week ago and stuck to it, but my scale says I haven't lost anything yet.  Anybody have any success stories to encourage me?
I think weight is a big factor, too.

My daughter didn't start until age 13 and she is very, very thin. 


Ok, my big boy cat is weight challenged
I refuse to hurt his feeling and say (fat)around him so let's just keep at weight challenged. Took him to the vet today as noticed his coat was not shiny like his brothers and he was so big wanted to see if possible diabetes or thyroid and could go from there. He, his lighter-weight brother and younger half sister have all been grazers. I keep the food bowls full in the day with wet and dry food when I went to bed, treats thru the day. Well, good times are up and now vet says labs ok and wants to get him on diet. Vet has said 2x a day 1/3rd cup of food and maybe 2 little pieces of the dry food as a treat. He is 4 years old and 23 lbs. He is a BIGGGG boy. Anyone else out there who has had to put their furries on diets and how did yours turn out?