Schools' hands are tied in many states....
Posted By: sm on 2008-04-01
In Reply to: This is America. Learn English. - American
My daughter teaches third grade. This year, she had a child from Yemen, an Arabic country. His dad, who barely speaks English, bought a convenience store and ran that. His mother speaks NO English. His older brother of two years understands a little more English and can speak it better though. But my daughter's student can't even read the instructions, read English, take a test, nothing. WHat is more frustrating, she is still expected to teach him like the other children (they have no special teachers for ESL students), even though she can't communicate with him. His father is very considerate if he is absent and writes her a note (very badly written at that) but that's all. Now get this....he can't understand anything in class, my daughter is expected to just give him F's or whatever and just keep going, BUT when standardized testing is going on, she is REQUIRED to count his grade in her overall classroom score, which brings the overall score DOWN. Now how dumb is that? This was going on all year but she went in last week, no child, no explanation. She gets a call from the office asking to look in his desk to check for any books he may have left. Come to find out, she was told he and his family had been put on the next plane OUT of the country and back to where they came from. We believe they were here illegally BUT how did they get here, buy a store, and go about their business? Our government allowed their being here....they should be required to explain why that family was here in the first place and why they suddenly disappeared. Our government is so busy trying to cater to everyone, they are screwing the rest of us.
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you have to realize too that a private schools also get those who are kicked out of public schools t
have a friend who is a teacher at private school who passed along this info so don't flame me,LOL.
Sorry, I thought it tied in...sm
I didn't mean to upset you.... Cat
Being tied to my job, working all the time, yet
Used to be able to take a short vacation every couple years, can't do that anymore. Used to ski, hike, horseback-ride, but can no longer afford it. Same goes for eating out, buying clothes new instead of 2nd-hand, going to the theater or the art museum. NADA. Not being able to afford to go visit friends/relatives across the country who aren't going to be around forever. Not having the slightest hope of being able to relax a little when I get old enough to retire. Retirement will never happen. I'm sick of just work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work....
tubes tied versus Essure?
Anyone have either of these procedures done? My husband was supposed to have a vasectomy before my IUD "expired", that was 4 3/4 years ago and I have two more months until I have to have my IUD out. I want something permanent and was going to get my tubes tied/cut but then I found out about the Essure procedure. I'm still leaning towards the tubal but just wondering if anyone out there has any opinions. Thanks so much!
Psych and Monk tied for my 1st place:-) Love those guys nm
In most states...sm
From my own personal experience, in some states child support is until the age of 18 UNLESS the child is going to college full time, in which case it runs until 21 or the time the child is no longer a full time college student. That's how it was when my sister and I were covered under child support from my father, and that's what it is here in a different state for my ex-husband to pay for his son. :)
In the credits it states that some of the
eliminations are discussed with the producers.
Going to the source and this is what the CDC states about
HPV in men.
http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/STDFact-HPV-and-men.htm#cancer
No, actually one of the lowest COL states in the U.S.
Oklahoma.
I have a friend who works cleaning houses (we decided it would be too weird for her to clean my house) and she charges $30/hour. It works out to about the same thing - it takes between 2-3 hours to clean my house.
Not true in MOST states
I believe Idaho is the only state where the age of consent is 18, most states are 16. And even then, the perp usually has to be at least 4 years older. Even if this was true, this would of course be the absolute worst thing to do. She's 17 and it sounds like he's only a year older. This would definitely ruin your relationship with your daughter. If she just lost her virginity at 17, that's not bad nowadays anyway. I know it's hard to hear that your baby is growing up, but just make sure she's completely educated on everything that goes with having sex and hope that she'll make safe decisions.
just so you know, many states have laws
against any corporeal punishment now, especially for "kinship" care (relatives raising kin children). For example, in many states I cannot even give push ups or running laps as punishment, forget about spanking! And throwing cold water on a child would get the child taken away from me. There are laws you can't withhold food as punishment or send a child to be early. There are over 5 million children being raised by relatives and just under 600,000 in state foster care. Things ARE much different now.
there's a states forum here, hit TX once there..NM
Go for it. Most states cannot even get decent
immigration reform laws passed because of the business lobby. How about we take all the out of work American and have the states and feds hire them as immigration officers? Then they could have decent benefits and there might be enough manpower to hunt down all the hundreds of thousands illegal immigrants and immigrants who do not speak English (what is that threshold going to be because I know some teenagers who are deficient in this area) and then we can process them all (more jobs for OOW Americans) back to their countries of origin. Of course, we would have to raise everyone's taxes to pay for all the salaries and benefits of all the new government employees, the holding facilities, the transportation and court costs. And of course, prices would go up across the board for goods and services that previously used cheap labor, and all those signs in Spanish and Vietnamese and Portuguese and whatever else can be repainted or reprinted in good ole American English, which our kids won't even be able to read because of the rotten public school systems where we had to pull even more money out of to pay for all the additional immigration reform costs. Then we can write all new, mega-restrictive immigration laws and create new testing centers and monitoring laws and now all the immigrant rounder-uppers can become babysitters, or maybe we could just section off part of the country, say....North Dakota...as a holding area for potential immigrants to stay for an allotted period of time until they are able to pass all the benchmarks for citizenship within the designated time frame. We can implant RFID chips in each one so we can easily track them down if they escape. If they cannot meet the requirements and don't freeze to death or get trampled by a buffalo herd, then they are sent back to their home country to try again in 10 years or never. We can then tear down the Statue of Liberty and return it to France.
Some States will allow you to transfer
your kids to a public school in a different town/district but you have to pay A LOT of money to do so. Many times it' just as cost effective to send them to a local private school rather than a public school in a different district.
eBay policy states.....sm
that the sender has 30 days to send the product. If they don't or can't prove they sent it then you can file a complaint with eBay, and they'll check with the seller who will have to either prove they sent the item (i.e. provide postal information with confirmation #s, insurance information, etc) or the seller will have to refund the money. They do tell you that if the seller has "disappeared" that they may not be able to get the money back; however, at the same time they will block them from selling again. My husband & I have bought a lot of stuff on ebay as well as sold a lot. We always ship within 72 hours and most items we've won we've received with a week. I did have one purchase that the seller kept coming up with excuses for not sending it until the 30 days came and eBay contacted her to ship it or else and she finally sent it... but she did refund my shipping fees because of the aggravation and she wasn't asked to do that.
I just heard on Friday that one of the states out
west is considering paying the mother $500 to carry her child to term rather than have an abortion!!! They feel the mother will want the money and carry the child. When will this madness end?
I have bought 4 homes in 4 different states
with my husband and I am an IC. I have never been asked to get a letter from a service stating I would have work for a period of time. Anyone you contract with, would probably not do that. They cannot promise you anything. WE know that.
BUT what I am asked is how long I have been in the business. That seems to matter the most, as it should. And when I say *over 32 years*, then there is no problem.
If you are happy with you mortgage company and have good rates, then just explain to the loan officer how your job works and emphasize that you have been in the business for 6 years.
As an aside - the last mortgage officer knew I was self employed but when we went in with our W-2s and 1099s, he was shocked at my earnings. He said, *Most of the time, self-employed means no income and a lot of deductions." Make sure your mortgage company knows you make money at this and are not using it as a tax write off.
Good luck to you! and congratulations on your new house! 
I heard that in some states you can bill the MD
I heard this quite a few years ago, never tried it....but our time is as valuable as anybody else's time (outside of emergencies/extenuating circumstances) and I worked for an MD who kept the patients waiting for 5 hours in his waiting room....the elderly were the victims in this case....it was 20+ years ago. And don't you just hate waiting in the waiting room for over an hour and then waiting in that examining room for any length of time beyond 10-15 minutes?!?! Usually a 30-45 minute wait and I don't like that either....
Most of us have places to go, people to see, things to do.....all as important as anybody else.....they are not gods....far from it, actually.
Yeah, they pay our bills/mortgage/rent but doesn't mean we have to like 'em....*l*
thanks for the place to vent...
I think different states may differ in rules...
but the answer was yes in my case. He "quit claim" deeded the house to me, but the mortgage was still in both names. No way is a bank or mortgage company going to let one off the hook in case the other defaults.
Hope this helps.
Same here - retire, hop in an RV, travel the states!
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if he states he thinks he may be an alcoholic, he is asking for help
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I thought in most states kids had to be 12 or at least 10 -sm
to be left alone w/o an adult. So even if your state is 10 they are in the wrong for having an 8-1/2-y/o look after a 6-y/o. CPS or whoever should put a stop to that right away I would think. I would report them and also apply for formal visitation via grandparent rights and get it on the records in court. If things escalate with the abuse maybe try for temporary custody of the child (with the aim of getting full custody in the future). I am guilty of sleeping in until 8 or even 9 sometimes but my DH is up at 7 or earlier with the kids and they are 8 and 10 and I don't have to worry too much about them doing stuff they shouldn't. Plus I am usually awake, just lying in bed trying to go back to sleep which never happens!
Wal-Mart corporate policy states....sm
that if you ask the person at the kiosk overseeing the self-check out lines to check you out they have to. Wal-Mart has gotten a bad reputation for not hiring people and then claiming their lack of check out lines being manned by humans is due to not having enough staff. Bull crap - if you pay well you can get good employees. I NEVER check myself out and provide free labor. I rarely go there but when I do, if there's more than 4 people in line ahead of me then I go to the self-check out lines and have the person overseeing them check them out. A couple of times they gave me flack about it and I requested the store manager be called... and then the store manager made them ring me up because the manager knew it was corporate policy.
My husband has asked the manager why they even have 20 checkout lines when he's never seen more than 2 cashiers working at any time of the day. Good question I say!
Of course not - The United States show some dignity?
So typical of our so-called institutions of higher education taking cheap shots at an INVITED speaker.
As to cruel and petty dictator, you have to look no further than the Whitehouse...
CASA, etc in many states have been known to threaten kids...
Without seeing the tapes, etc, I can't blame the kid, especially not knowing the age. Mine, at 7, was chastised by the court-appointed social worker and GAL (guardial ad litem)about not wanting to be with her dad, even though the social worker had learned and verified that her dad had molested another child and attempted to molest an animal (not to mention all his porn they found). Courts and court-appointeds were determined she would "learn to like" her dad,and it was all my fault that she didn't. According to them, he was only trying to help her relax when he had her hand up her nightgown. I have the only appeals court record in the country that I know of (has been cited in several court analyses nationwide) where they specifically stated it is "normal male behavior" for a 50-YO man to be looking at pix of girls believed to be 12 to 15 years old. She is back home with me finally and recovering from the nightmare, but it was not done with any help from the family courts. The Titleman case is the only one to actually be accepted by the US Supreme Court for review.
some of these states make home visits
monthly to monitor, speaking with the children in private, so ya, it could happen. Educate yourself on the laws of your state and then give yourself a break.
Some states require a Doing Business As license if you work
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She also has man hands.
adf
it has gone through too many hands
so I wouldn't feel comfortable calling the girl's parents.
hands down
Da Bird, Google it, go nuts for it.
Went to the schools to eat
Several times. Nothing like we had when we were kids. There was No quality to their meals. I was not pleased.
Same at our schools
The kids can have them in school, but they have to be turned off and kept in their lockers. They found that the students were actually using the cell phones to cheat on tests. My daughter is probably one of the only teens that doesn't have a cell phone. If she goes out and absolutely needs one then she borrows either mine or her father's. We never had cell phones. I think most of us turned out okay.
Schools
Wondering if you can help me with this.
Due to many problems within the school district I have decided to start a special parents group to address the situations that were not handled properly, teacher/student relationships, and on.
What questions/and concerns would you ask of your school if you were not satisfied with them,;
Thanks for your time.
Smokers inflict cancer causing agents to people every day, but there are states that
public places anymore and I say, hurray, it's about time! The state of Arizona passed a law overwhelmingly to ban smoking in public places and now it's in effect. If you're caught smoking in a public place you'll either be told to put it out, leave, or be arrested.
Speaking of walking through smoke when going in or leaving a store, I know exactly what that poster means, the only thing is I had to bring my child into that store with me. Prior to the new law, I told the manager how awful that was for me and my child and they had the trashcan/ashtray units moved further away. Still, it amazed me that people would still stand right there at the door and puff away with no regard for anyone else. Well, now, they really have it, but good. It's ILLEGAL to smoke anywhere near a public location, ie grocery stores, malls, library, hospital, any other stores and they can't smoke outside the doors or even on the property itself.
cold hands
I bought a pair of cotton gloves from CVS and cut off the fingertips. cotton won't make your hands sweat and they are very comfortable and keep the heat in. look for them where the first aid products are. if you can't find them someone in pharmacy can help locate them for you. you get several pair in the box and are very cheap!
I have in in both hands, have for years -sm
but it does not really bother me. As long as I have my keyboard at the right level I am fine, but if I pop the legs up on the keyboard I keep flat, then in a day or so it flares up big-time (I did this when I switched computers as my old keyboard I had the legs up--but on my new one I need to have them down) and my hands will shake a lot, hurt and drive me nuts in general. Braces make it hurt more so I go without them. So I just avoid having my keyboard in the wrong position and I am fine. Granted if I put in a long day my hands get a bit tired but that is it. As for surgery, it is not a permanent fix, it will come back (kind of like laser eye surgery) and you will have gained nothing but a couple years w/o it. But go get checked, they will give you the braces which may take care of it for you, they help many people (just not me) and also try to quit playing with your hair, I am sure that will help but less stress on it.
for my health into a drs. hands without being
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Assaulted? Put her hands on her? Such a big
laugh for tonight. This is the reason why kids are like they are now. Unbelievable. You said it all really.
Any thoughts on getting ink off my hands? sm
Duh!! I was really dumb this morning and trying to use this ink refill kit I bought and didn't wear gloves. Next think I knew I got black ink all over my hands. I figure I have a couple of choices, I could stay home until it wears off, I could dip both hands up to my wrists in ink and pretend I'm wearing black gloves, or I could ask you all if you have any secrets on how I can get it off. 
I'm fat(wasnt always) but DH cant keep his hands
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Dyson, hands down (sm)
I've had a Dyson now for oh, 4-5 years, just the plain old base model, and it is beyond fabulous. You know how the "big" vacuum sales people will come in and do demos in your house, getting more dirt than you knew existed out of things you thought were clean? Well, my Dyson does that...and it cost a whole lot less. I'd put it up against a Kirby or Rainbow any day.
Hope this helps.
HC
Keep your hands off your face
and be very gentle with the skin around your eyes and face. I see other people rub their eyes and faces vigorously when they're tired, and when the hands come down, I see wrinkles around the eyes. I'm 45 and people think I'm as young as 26. I do have the dark circles, which I have to cover with 16-hour foundation in a shade lighter than my regular foundation. Then I set with powder. I sometimes apply a dab of pink powder to the darkest areas or the inside corner area. This is what the makeup artist from What Not To Wear does to counter darkness. Preparation H is supposed to shrink bags.
do you speak with your hands - and I don't mean
My husband does not listen to me either. He looks like he's paying attention but he misses half of what I say. Couple thought I have is. Awhile ago we were watching a TV special it said that people listen and remember what you say when you talk with your hands (the study was done on school children). Well I don't talk with my hands. Never have and don't know how and when it do it just looks odd. I told him maybe I should start talking with my hands because then he would remember what I tell him.
I'm not sure if this is a normal thing for guys or not. We've been married 26 years and he hardly ever listens to me. I have to repeat things 2 and 3 times. Once we were getting ready to do 3 errands. As we were driving I asked where he was going and he said to this place and I said no, we have to hit these other 2 places first and he claims I never told him. I said I told him twice and then he became irate as though I was pointing out a mistake (he does not take kindly to me pointing out that he made a mistake even if I say it nicely, but he has no qualms in telling me whenever I made a mistake). Anyway...I don't know when my husband stopped listening to me either. Maybe about 10 or so years ago. He'll listen, but I think a lot of it is if I don't say what he want's to hear he just tunes me out. Our things are not major life threatening issues, but a lot have to do with "what he's going to do when he grows up". He's been out of work for about 5 years now and he doesn't know what he wants to do with his life (he's 50 years old). We will talk and talk and talk and then the next day it's back to square one like I never said anything.
Sometimes what I will do that helps is I take scratch pieces of paper and I write notes on them and them leave them all over the place. Like I keep a running list of errands we have to do and keep it on the corner of the table and a couple times through the week I will say we need to to this or we need to do that, and then I ask him when he would like to go do them (usually it's just the grocery store, or the place to pay our bills), but at least that gives him the option of feeling like he's in control of when its going to be done, when actually I am the one in control because the bill will need to be paid in the week. He too can be disrespectful of me and look at me funny if I'm telling him something, so what I've done is if I get the look from him I immediately stop talking. Then I will say the same exact thing he does to me "your not interested in what I'm saying?"
Maybe the note thing will help, it does with me. I wish you luck.
to the lady with hot hands
Sorry I have not responded. Been busy for a change, lol.
Thanks for the kind words. I actually am not on any medication right now for the RA. I switched rheumatologists a few months ago, and because my bloodwork was so very mildly positive and because I am hypermobile, they decided to see what would happen if I were taken off my Plaquenil. Proud to say I stiffened up after a few months, but my blood work is still not showing much inflammation, even though my rheumatoid factor has increased.
I also decided to not try any of the other medications. I know, it sounds risky and perhaps even stupid, but I just got off some harsh medications for another condition and I am kind of bucking the system. Because I have not had a flareup (that I am aware of, and i think those are hard to miss) since I stopped the medication, I am going to play it by ear, see what happens.
I did find out last week that my thyroid has finally tanked, and have started Synthroid for that. Poor thing was tested so many times and never came back abnormal.
Anyhow, I would talk to my doc if I were you about all the autoimmune disorders, have them run some blood tests and see if anything shows up. Here is another tip I have just learned - both with thyroid and with RA - even if your blood work shows up negative, if you have all the clinical symptoms of disease/disorder/syndrome "x", they should consider treating for it. I waited at least three years for a diagnosis on the RA, and my main symptom was the feeling yucky and sick but not sick all the time. It just had not shown up in my bloodwork until about a year ago, and by the time it had, I wasted a lot of time being tired.
Oh, also check your vitamin D.
Sorry so rambly. Good luck
HC
My family...hands down
My 2 year old- I laugh at her every day she is SO funny. Right now I am her world and she is just about the sweetest thing on the planet! My son who is so funny, the things he comes up with, plus he loves his mamma and is a total sweetheart even when he is being a "brother" to his sisters. My oldest daughter who even though she is getting an attitude still needs the reassurance and love from her mother, just inside the house where no one can see, lol. I LOVE my family, they are my world. And last but not least my wonderful husband who calls me 2-3 times a day from work just to talk to me even though he gets made fun of by the boys at work. He knows I don't get a lot of adult interaction so he started calling me at home when I started working at home 6+ years ago. We are not perfect by any means but I think we have a pretty perfect life :)
No you wouldn't. I win hands down.
We have a coal stove and it is the dirtiest heat in the world, but keeps us warm. I have more than an inch of dust on everything in less than a week. Can't wait until spring. 
private schools
No, it's not fair that you should have to pay for a private school, but that might just be what is best for your daughter. We decided 16 years ago that our 3 children would not go to public schools. We have spent a fortune over the years, but I do not regret it for an instant.
but he did not go to Korean schools
the other poster may be correct about what they teach in Korea, but that was not the cause of this person going ballistic. and it should not be made to seem like it was.
The schools have enough to take care of
besides crap like this. Kids, source, name calling SO? You are grown, supposed to know better, do not stoop to their level by retaliation, nothing gained as hubs would say.
It is not only in schools. It can be anywhere. On the news here
in SC last night, a little boy 3 or 4 years of age has it and is at MUSC in Charleston but doing good. He was not in day care anywhere. He stayed at home all the time.
Our schools do the same thing
Having kids from 7 up to 19 in our district, I've had this happen a few times. But the difference is, our school district sends home on the very first day of school, a form that tells you if there is an emergency and kids have to be dismissed early, what you want to happen. I elect for my kids to get on the bus and if no one is home, they will be sent to Latchkey. When they take the bus, the bus driver will not let them off until an adult appears. She will sit there and honk for a few minutes and then go. Working with headphones on makes that difficult too, but I normally get someone calling telling me they heard about the school, etc. as a warning. They don't have time to call parents and I understand that. Not to mention, if the power is out at our schools, the phones go out as well.
Now we have had practice evacuations in case of fire, bomb threats, etc at the lower age and the teacher has to get them to our local fire dept, which is a very short walk away. They wait there until the buses can get there and take them home. They had to do this one time and it was a mess. Of course parents heard about the bomb threats (blanket threat over the whole district so everyone was evacuated), so they showed up to get their kids or sent friends, but they would not release kids to no one but parents. No grandparents, nothing. Reason being, if a true emergency like 9/11 happened, would they honestly have time to get those emergency forms? No one knew that they were not going to release the kids to parents only. Now that they've experienced it and people wrote letters complaining etc, it is now documented on the same form as mentioned above about parents only picking up their kids during a situation like this.
I know its hard, but I would at least write a letter explaining your situation, but be compassionate to what they are experiencing as well and come up with a compromise. They shouldn't have released your kids to your brother without any emergency forms for sure. I'm in a very small district where everybody knows everyone and they still would not release kids that day. They knew they were liable.
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