School lunches are quite healthy in this day and age...
Posted By: mt on 2008-09-03
In Reply to: i REFUSE to let mine eat in the cafeteria - see inside
they have a lot of standards they have to be up on. Our school serves at least 3 fruits/veggie options with every meal. They actually serve healthy things like yogurt, side salads, etc. When I was younger, school lunch was terrible, but that's changed. It went from just plain terrible when I was a kid to terrible because they served so much unhealthy pop, chips and all to now where they aren't even allowed to have pop OR chips. The ones who bring their own lunces are the eating the crud now. The weight may have been the tubs of pb eaten with a spoon rather than the actual lunches served, as being a tween you should have burned off even a crappy lunch.
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School lunches -
Child is entering middle school this year. Came home today with a lunch menu. Among the standard lunch are ala carte items including sports drinks, soda, pretzel with cheese, nachos with cheese, breadsticks with sauce, ice cream, etc. All of these items run abotut $1.50 a piece and of course the school encourages that you fill the student's lunch account and not send daily cash.
Of course we will talk with him and let him know what is expected but was wondering if any of you have gone through this already? Do you find that its a problem? How did you handle it? Personally, I don't see why any kid wouldn't want to skip a real lunch for a pretzel with cheese and a pepsi! It is a very good district but this has totally rubbed me the wrong way. I cannot believe they are offering this to 10-13 year old kids.
Our school lunches are disgusting
It's like eating at McDonald's every day. Chicken nuggets, burgers, pizza, nachos, chips. Anything the district can get cheap. Yuck.
school lunches are $100/month and going up!!!! YIKES!!!!
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Hot lunches
I had a similar situation around Thanksgiving. We had sent over 60 dollars to my sons lunch account. Well one day the lunch lady pulled him out of line, mind you these kids only have 20 min. lunches. After pulling my son out of line and in front of all his peers, she proceeds to tell him that if he does not have the Money he will have to have bread and water tomorrow. Talk about being angered. I had to wait a week to handle the situation as I was so upset. Then after meeting with the principal and discussing this. He chooses not to address the problem but get this- He called my son to his office and in front of all the office staff and others proceeds to call my son a liar. Since our complaint my never get in trouble son, started having letters sent home stating he had a bad attitude. The kicker was when I was at work one day the phone rings and who is it but the principal. He informs me my son was sent to see him for disrespect to a teacher. I asked if he was sure that it was ANdy. He said are you calling me a liar?? Well maybe how long ago did this happen and when did you last see Andy? He stated he had just sent him back to class. We I said, You are a liar because my son is and has been home all day ill.
Lunches for DH in the wilderness? sm
What are some ideas or what do you all fix for your DH for lunches? Mine has no access to microwaves or anything like that, just pure wilderness, but I need some ideas of something filling besides sandwiches, lol
yes, go online and type in 'easy, cheap lunches and dinners...nm
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Call the school. I had a threat like this in my high school and they cancelled school that day.
Thankfully, because the person making the threats was found with material for home made pipe bombs and quit a bit of ammunition and a shotgun. He was arrested and charged. Never allowed back in the school.
I think it would be safer to call the school and get classes cancelled for a day to investigate versus make a scene in the parking lot, especially if the student with the knife is inside with the knife.
Good luck. If nothing happens, pull your child out of school for a week. See what happens. I know that sounds horrible, but small towns is where this happens most often.
Here's a healthy one.
Edamame (soy beans) blanched in salted water, served on Townhouse crackers with a light layer of cream cheese. Delish!!
Mine isn't nearly as healthy. LOL
I tend to go for burgers. I like a cheeseburger with grilled onion, tomato, and green olives.
When I was younger and I trusted the food supply, we used to have cannibal sandwiches...raw ground steak, raw onion, salt, and pepper on pumpernickel bread. Tastes way better than it sounds. :-)
There's also a restaurant here with a world-famous (really!) pork chop sandwich. It has chili, coleslaw, onions, pickles, and mustard on it.
Can you tell I live in the South?? LOL
not a healthy two-year-old
Apparently, the whole house had the rotavirus and the two year old got an ileus? This is a relative. I have never heard of such a thing!
Doesn't anyone eat healthy? nm..
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How about a healthy alternative
Healthy? What? For Superbowl? I know. I must be kidding, right?
How about a bunch of carrot sticks, or pre-peeled baby carrots, celery sticks, bell peppers cut into strips and some hummus. You can find good hummus at Whole Foods, and surprisingly, the Sam's near me has a really good one. Not everyone likes it, but it's one of my favorite snacks. You can also get pita chips and some baguette bread cut up into small slices to serve it with as well. Add some calamata olives and some bruschetta topping, which is roasted peppers in olive oil, and I think you'll have a hit that is not just the same old same old.
Healthy paranoia
Seriously, you're already distrustful of the guy or you wouldn't be having these doubts. How long have you known him? I'm with the other posters who advise you listen to your intuition.
Since it is a small dog, assuming it's healthy,
it actually should not be hard to place. Do contact rescues in your area if you don't have a network of dog-loving people you really know well. Also vets' offices. See if they will put up signs. Sometimes when people lose a pet, they want to get a nice adult dog fast so they won't be alone.
I'm also in NC, and I know a woman who wants a small dog. She's in her 50s, either divored or widowed, needs a small, clean, adult dog that's already trained and won't cost her a fortune. Look for somebody like that.
Well, I'm right in the middle, not skinny just healthy
I've never really been skinny, I'm too curvy to ever be skinny, but I'm at a healthy weight (bmi of 21) and very happy with my body. I pretty much eat whatever I want, just know I need to exercise more if I eat high-calorie/high-fat foods. I've been overweight but was miserable and decided to make a change, definitely much happier now.
If he is otherwise healthy, I'd lose the tail.
He'll have to adjust how he balances but otherwise I think he'd be fine.
Healthy meals for fussy 7-10 YO sm
"Yuck, ugh," sick of these words from young kids whose Mom wants them to eat healthy. They are also label readers (believe it or not), want to know where everything is on the food pyramid, yet they balk at everything in front of them. I am so tired of trying to please them and don't want to go against the Mom's rules. Anything tasty and healthy? Forget vegetables!
Anyone ever been really heavy and have a healthy pregnancy? sm
Well I am at 325 and pregnant. Yes, I am tall but still that weight is very, very disgusting. I wonder how I got to this place. But I am so worried about my weight affecting the baby. The baby was nto planned - was a complete surprise. A welcome surprise though. But I never thought I would be able to get pregnant while being this heavy. I don't why I thought that but I truly did. I am just wondering if anyone has been really overweight and how it affected your pregnancy. The doctors don't really see any harm in it, or so they say, but I am still a bit worried. Thanks for all input. I am getting the Lap band after I have the baby. I want to be healthy for my family after this and it seems like a reasonable option. Thanks everyone. Have a great Thanksgiving!
My SIL was heavy and had two healthy babies.
With her last pregnancy, she started walking and eating better while she was pregnant. She weighed less at the end of her pregnancy than at the beginning. Baby was 7 lbs and healthy, too!
Exceedingly fit and healthy, could he be using steroids?
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I think some things mentioned here are healthy
like nuts- I would like to see a picture of you say at 65 and see do you not still have a spread- it is called the middleaged spread and it happens whether thin, fat or whatever. Get off your high horse and quit looking down on others.
Lucky is the one who is healthy and does not need a doctor!...nm
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I so agree...mother of 3 healthy kids
I have a similar relative who would NEVER let anyone around her girls when they were babies, whether we were sick or not. No one was allowed to even hold them. Those babies grew up to be 2 of the sickest kids I ever saw.
Well, any healthy relationship should be close to equal
My husband works FT and still helps out a lot around the house. I only work PT, so I usually do the cooking, helping our daughter with homework and most of the cleaning. My husband always cleans the kitchen after I cook (and vice versa) though and he cleans the bathrooms. We also alternate doing the laundry. So, I'd say everything evens out to be pretty close to 50/50 in our relationship. We are truly best friends and we treat each other as such, and I would never dream of "serving" my man - that's just a ridiculous statement! I even had that part taken out of our wedding vows! If it becomes a problem where you feel like you're being taken advantage of, then you need to sit down with your husband and let him know that he needs to pull his own weight or you won't be happy. Good luck!
Focus on getting healthy, not on losing weight
I don't know your height, but was 5Ǝ" and 175 when I started trying to get fit. I lost inches first before losing weight. It took 4-5 months to lose 25 lbs, going from a size 16 to 12. Once I got there, I was more fit than 93% of all women my age. I was doing mountain hikes that put my teenagers to shame.
A few years later, I had some GI problems and started losing inches and a bit of weight, but not much weight. I lost the muscle as I had already burned off the fat. I dropped only 5 lbs, but went from size 12 to a size 8. I was anorectic. I'm back up again. ugh.
Just wanted you to know that if you think about getting fit, you may be more successful than if your goal is to lose weight. A lot of people give up because they don't lose the weight they expect of themselves. Your body will tell you where you should be. If you lose too much weight, you'll stay sick. If you are fit and stay fit, you'll feel it in any muscle and bone of your body. Good luck! Sounds like your off to a good start.
It's not healthy to base your happiness on another person
I'm not trying to be mean or judge, but I just don't understand why women do this. You should never be this "into" a guy, it's just not healthy. You really need to get into counseling or try to fill that void in your life with church/God/Christianity, anything that makes you happy. Find out what makes you happy (in a healthy way) and pursue that. I've been married 10 years to a wonderful man who is honestly my best friend and I would be very sad if our relationship ended, but I wouldn't be devastated and I know that I'm a strong enough woman that I would get through it just fine. To honestly have a healthy relationship, you should be completely happy and whole on your own and you shouldn't need another person to make you feel happy. I pray that you find whatever it is that you're seeking, but trust me, you'll never find it through another person.
Maintaining a healthy hard drive (sm)
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Hard drives write data in a non-linear way forcing it to become fragmented.
When files accumulate on your hard drive, they do not just get written in a linear fashion. A hard drive writes files in small pieces and scatters them over the surface. The fuller your hard drive becomes and the more files you save and delete the worse file fragmentation can be. Hard drive access times increase with fragmentation since your drive must work harder to find all the pieces of the files. The more fragmented your data is, the harder the actuator arm has to work to find each piece of a file.
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Finally, in the event of a total crash, a fragmented drive is much more difficult to recover then a healthy defragged drive.
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Sounds like my kids...on a school day "we just got home from school!" on a vacation day....sm
But this is our vacation! My husband takes vacation days and leaves town without us...lol! He would never dream of taking a day off to work around the house!
Just started Healthy Performance..cooking involved though.
It has been just a little over 24 hours. I CAN do this. Sometimes it just takes a kick in the butt to get me moving in the right direction and I think this is gonna do it. Good luck to you!
Contact him and be thankful you found him alive and hopefully healthy. sm
If you pass this opportunity up, you may never get another chance. I think i would call him, but you also have to think about someone else answering the phone and be prepared just in case. i believe everyone deserves a second chance and a chance for explanations. my eldest brother recently had his 23yo son contact him. lots of issues and reasons, but at least his son got to meet his father. now i am trying to get the family together as i am trying to get to know my nephew via myspace. both were sitting around waiting on the other to make a move after their initial meeting and neither were doing it. just FYI though, my brother's wife also had a major problem with my brother meeting his long lost son as well. what's up with that??? i can't comprehend that. as adults, it isn't like they are only after money you know. just want to know their family is all. contact him before you regret it!
whaaahh...I bough some Smart Ones and Healthy CHoice
holiday pounds. I want chocolate!!!
It just doesn't seem at all normal, healthy, or realistic to put your dogs in front of your own c
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How is the school's fault if Johnny comes to school armed?
And how is the school's fault if off campus people are getting jumped? Everybody wants to blame the schools, but the reason places have gone "zero tolerance" is because every parent whose kid gets popped for an illegal weapon says, "Oh, my little pookie wouldn't do that." Which is exactly what the parents of every perpetrator of school violence has said. At 15, this girl should have been aware that it was verboten and, if they felt that strongly it was necessary, kept it hidden. If she is not capable of thinking that part through, maybe she shouldn't be trusted with pepper spray anyway.
How is this kid in school with chronic infestation? School nurse
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In our school district you can go to any school that you want
but you actually have to pay if you don't live in the District. The private schools here are outrageously priced. You could almost send your child to a community college for the amount they charge.
Job available at school.
Okay, I have been doing this for 8 years. I think I should be more productive than I am for that much experience. I only do between 1200 to 1300 lines a day. I am also just so tired of it. Today, the hospital's network is very very slow and that certainly doesn't help me and I have to make up the time while my kids are at home which is not very easy...KWIM. Again, just tired of it.
There is a job opening available at DD. elemetry school about an elementry teacher aide. It has no specific qualifications just send resume to the superintendent. Well, I looked online and it seems the basic requirements are HS diploma, good understanding of children, good physical condition. I match that. I am a mother of 2, my 5 yo was at the top of her class last year (might be a good qualification for me), I referreed fights etc., supervised dd and her friends on outings, babysat school age kids.
I am just thinking of things that might qualify me for the job. I have kept this job for 8 years, the job before that was 6 years as a nurses aide at another hospital so longevity might be a plus. I have never worked anywhere except a hospital. Well, I did work for an MTSO for a short time, 6 months.
There is a number I could call. It is voice mail. I was going to call and ask exactly what are they looking for so I would know whether or not to bother with it but I am not very good at asking for something I need. Any suggestions, comments. TIA.
School
I would be livid! Go through the principal, (complain loudly) on how embarrassed your daughter was, etc. You'll get results I'm sure. As a last resort, get a doctor's excuse.
School
I am 56 and working on my third degree. I love going to school, and I think the older I get, the more it helps keep me sharp. You might try asking a local college about scolarship opportunities. Some of them have special programs geared for women.
My take is WHY did the school let a
freshman take a senior course? Advanced or not, she probably does not have the background to be able to keep up with it. My daughter is also a freshman and took Algebra II in 8th grade, so they automatically put her in geometry. There is no way I would have let her take a physics class now.
re: school
I am a mom of two teenage boys and I do not think the school should have been the ones to punish the child since it didn't take place at the school from school computers or on school property. It is the parent's responsibility to reprimand the child when something is done by their child in the home. Since the teacher found out about it, that teacher should have called the parent and should have allowed the parent to take the appropriate action. Teachers should not under any circumstances have the authority to reprimand children at home under their parent's care. Only when something like this happens from school, on school property, from a school computer should the teacher have that authority. I used to work in a public school and there are boundaries as to how far teachers should go. The rest is up to parents!
We met at school
Best friend's boyfriend at that time and I absolutely could not stand him!
Then we ended up kind of *stuck* together when we went out with a group of friends. Somehow we just clicked and from that first night, I knew we were going to be together forever! That night while all the other couples were making out like crazy, he and I just sat on a playground slide and talked. Then at the end of the night, he kissed me on the cheek...I knew right then I was hooked. We've been married 21 years, have 3 children, and are expecting our first grandchild in August!!! Aww, whatta love story 
I don't know what everyone's school districts
are like, but I don't have any of these problems. Even at our old house that was in a little more of a low-income area, the school was okay. I noticed a huge difference in the kids and the parents over there though, but I have had no problems with my kids in public school.
They both are testing above average. My daughter is in K and has a sheet she is to work on all month and then turn in, nothing too serious. My son usually does his homework/reading on the bus or spends about 30 minutes at the most completing it when he gets home.
Maybe I am just lucky that they both excel without any pushing from me or the school or I just am in a great school district, although I know we are in the best in Texas. My son does have some anger problems sometimes and a few problems with self-control. We work on this and I think the idea about the martial arts is an excellent one. In fact, we are looking at places to enroll him out here. He is pushing to go back to gymnastics though, so we will see. Honestly, I think any extracurricular activity that is in a nurturing environment is a good idea for every kid.
Public school
I have a granddaughter in the mountains of North Carolina in the fifth grade, who has teachers from you know where.. They should not be in a school setting. One used four letter words and they were not love. They will not go out with the students at recess, so it is a free for all with three to five grades out there all at once. There is bullying and if she says anything, the teacher says she is squealing. I don't think when your knees are bleeding from being knocked down, it is squealing. The third grade was awful. They finally got her moved out of there into another class and the teacher was wonderful. That was about three months before the year was over and that was because they went to the superintendent of schools. Next year was bad and this year is the worse. The teacher tells the student she cannot believe the students are that ignorant, loses papers the students turn in and then gives them a zero. Her mother saved her papers and showed them to the teacher and she had some phony excuse, like she had so many papers to correct. Teachers are supposed to do that. The teacher also has a teacher's aide three times a week and there are only 15 students in the class. She also calls my granddaughter a liar when she says she turned her papers in. She says my granddaughter is to lazy to do the work. My granddaughter loves school, is on the honor roll and would have made the principal's list had the teacher not lost three papers that my granddaughter had turned and gave her the grade she deserved instead of giving her a zero three times. Don't say go to the school and the principal. When they go, the teacher acts so nice and after they leave, she picks on my granddaughter and tells her not to go home and tell her parents things that are not true. The principal does nothing. They have her on a list for a private school and after paying taxes, no one should have to pay to go to a private school, but that is what you have to do. I cannot believe that all the parents do not get together and descend on the principal's office. My granddaughter loves school but not this year because of the teacher. Cannot wait for the year to be over. She has been humiliated in front of her classmates and when a classmate tries to stand up for her and tell the teacher she is not talking or doing any of what the teacher says she is doing, she tells the classmates not to try to take any sides. She is a very loving, sweet, and intelligent girl and what she has to go through every day, makes my skin crawl. When school is out, I am going to write the principal, the teacher and the superintendent of schools and tell them what I think of their teachers. If they did away with tenure, maybe the teachers would take their work more seriously. I never worked for a company that told me if I stayed with them for 10 years, I could not be fired. Ridiculous. The principal does not like to report anything is wrong because in the reports they have to send to the state board of education, the more problems the school has, the less money they get, so they do not report anything is wrong. Report cards were given out Friday and the teacher wrote that she was a very good student, and a pleasure to have her in the class. Why write that when all you do is pick on her. To protect herself when things get tough. Thank you for letting me vent.
church school
Well, I didn't say the ONLY place to find teachers who care is at a church school, and I certainly don't believe that. I do think your chances of finding them in a church school are a whole lot higher, however. I didn't intend to create a religious argument either. I was genuinely interested in why you would not want your children in a church school.
Public School
My husband and I have two special needs children and homeschooling was the best thing we could have ever done for them. My oldest child is learning up a storm and my youngest child is going to start being home-schooled next year. We both work full-time and we still find time to homeschool. It does not take as much time as you would think. There is just you teaching your kids and it goes a lot faster and they learn faster. We thought we could not homeschool, but we were forced to as the public school did nothing for our son and now nothing for our other child. You can do more than you think you can if you have to. Good luck!
Many phases during school
I was gothish for a while myself. Doesn't sound she's been doing it too long if she was asking for different makeup last summer. I dressed goth even longer than I really felt like just because my parents rode my butt about it.
I used to be school room Mom
There is a game where you put items in a paper bag like combs, hair things, rubberbands, paper clips, ect. The child is blindfolded or put the bag of goodies behind the back. Let the child reach into the bag and try to guess what he pulls out without looking. Decorating cupcakes is also fun. Take cupcakes or cookies to school and let the kids be creative. Around Xmas we did gingerbread type houses out of gram crackers and icing. Let them make valentine cards for a parent/friend out of paper and allow them to glue on glitter that sort of thing. Good luck!
Another school rule...
just another reason I am glad I homeschool!
A local school district just informed the students via announcement over the PA system that "Farting" in class can now result in AEP placement! I couldn't believe it so I've questioned some of the kids that go there. All I've questioned say yes, that's what they said.
How stupi*d can you get?
New School Rules
Not every child does this for attention. If you had read the post -- you do know how to read right? The original poster stated that her child has a medical condition! I think it is wrong to punish a child for doing something that a body does naturally especially if it is due to a medical condition! There are a lot of good teachers out there and a lot of not so good teachers. There are a lot that need to get back to teaching instead of worrying about this sort of thing. If you ignore it -- children will not do it because it did not bring about the attention they sought to get. And if it is due to a medical condition the teacher will have to deal with it! I have GERD and my stomach makes noises all day long. Are you going to come after me too?
New school rules.
My children do not do any of these things to the best of my knowledge. They do not do it at home because they were taught that it is rude, but if it happens to say excuse me which I believe is the polite thing to do. I have never heard of them doing this in school either. However, I do believe that if a child has a medical problem he/she can politely say excuse me and should not be punished. I'm not saying it is proper behavior -- just that if it happens the child can say excuse me. At my daughter's school not all of the teachers allow children to leave the classroom during class to use the bathroom. I don't agree with that either. I guess that makes me a monster.
Anyone who has just finished school
would be more apt to pass the CMT test. However, to say that would eliminate "toilet errors" is not the way I see it. Someone with a lot of years experience in this field is just as good as a CMT if not better. Passing a test and putting initials after your name means nothing when it comes to work ethic, discipline, and experience. I just think if you have 9 years of experience, you are going to be just as attractive as someone with a CMT. It seems to me companies or physicians seek well-rounded MTs that have experience in quite a few specialties as opposed to having CMT after your name. I am not so sure physicians are aware of this testing process, but the Nationals seem to have bitten on it, but I'm not so sure it gets you any more money. I've read posts where it does not gain you anything more than something else to put on the resume. If you want to become more attractive, then I'd say branch out into more specialties or may be even take a business course to expand your knowledge. CMT, in my opinion, is a waste of money especially when you have verbatim accounts and the client is always right, no matter what "the books" or for that matter AAMT has to say about the way it should be done. Just another opinion. 
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