Said the woman who did drugs and got where she is because of her father.... nm
Posted By: R on 2008-02-11
In Reply to: She is my new hero. sm - Natalie Cole says..
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At least she is single, not the married woman who took my father for $$$$$$$
talked about p.o'd. After my stepmother died (his wife)younger than me married women moved in for the kill. NO AMOUNT of talking on my point would make him believe they had anything on their mind except he was charming, I suppose. When something like this it is elderly abuse because they are using and trying to get money/property/furniture/cash/cars, etc. This woman made off like a bandit. I had started proceedings to have the courts take over his every day affairs. These 2 are close in age, your father and the woman so, you probably think she is going for the gold but lots of men dont even want to hear anything different. I think it is called stubborn.
I don't know, this post down below has me thinking. What are your thoughts, woman to woman. sm
If your spouse came to you and said he was having an affair, would you be more upset if it was with a male or female? For me, definitely a female! If it were male then I would think that it had absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with him. I would be devastated if he were with another woman. Another poster below said she would be more upset if he were found with a male. What about you?
woman to woman talk sm
This has nothing to do with being a christian, it has more to do with group dynamics. I have to deal with it all the time with 6 women in an in-law situation. They are narrow-minded Bible-thumping bigots.I happen to be of another "denomination" and I do attend every function of theirs, weddings, funerals, all of it, receive their communion. I have had my parents die, lost my younger sister and many things happen where they could have reciprocated, yet they will not "step foot" in my church. So where is all their faith, they certainly are not practicing the do unto others. I can relate, it is a horrible way to live. Thank God, I had psychology courses and know about group dynamics, I am in the middle of a herd mentality. I could go on forever, they even have "interventions" when someone in their family wants to marry or date someone not from their denomination. They are awful. I know your pain! It's not your imagination, they hide behind their cohesive "numbers game," one speaks and all the others agree in unison. No one has a chance against this mob. It's tough to be your own person, lots of tears. And guys think it's all in our heads - NOT! Hang in, perhaps you'll have a Divine Intervention somehow.
Kangaroo. cat woman or wonder woman?
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drugs
Yeah - drugs certainly change people. . it is such a problem in the rural area I live in - I guess it is everywhere. . . I'm not sure why people are buried after cremation - but I do think the cremation process is cheaper because you don't have to buy a casket, so that may be one reason people opt for cremation.
drugs
Have you ever suspected drug use?
So sad - drugs are
one of the devil's favorite tools for destruction.
I definitely think she did it and I think she is on drugs. sm
Drugs will make you do crazy things. I have no doubt she did it. Too much evidence and lies stacked against her. I think she may have been upset or trying to get ravinge on her mom or something with them having a fight.
I think she's on drugs.
I can hardly stand to hear her talk on AI. She just rambles on and on. Slurred speech, loopy, eyes half closed. Classic. Hasn't she said in the past that she has chronic back pain?
drugs
I am no expert, but I do have a lot of experience with this topic, so I will cut through the bumper stickers and the pep talk.
If you want to know if he is going to be okay or not, all you really have to do is figure out if he ever took care of anyone besides himself. If he EVER, from the time he was a little boy, set what he wanted aside, made a sacrifice for someone else. If he did, then probably somewhere down the line things will turn around. If he never has, ever, not been selfish, then don't get your hopes up.
If I was in your shoes, I would call his ex-wife and find out.
So then why take any drugs at all? Or why not let's just decide which
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Then they need to pay for their own children, drugs,
alchol, whatever they want to do. Pay your own way, I have no problem with that.
Oh my! What kind of *drugs*?
Interesting story.
Considering 2 of the top 10 drugs prescribed in the USA:
$31 Billion Spent On Top 10 Prescribed Drugs, USA
Total Expenditure: $2.2 billion
Number of persons: 4.5 million
Zoloft
Total Expenditure: $2.1 billion
Number of persons: 4.7 million
Paxil
Total Expenditure: $2.2 billion
Number of persons: 4.5 million
It's quite a different world than previous. I think everyone has one or thing or another/S to be anxious about.
It's out of control, if you ask me. The world, that is.
Drugs v. Friends.
It is hard to say how long it lasted. I would think that this was "the year" & then have another period. Probably 3 yrs. During which I was an angry, emotional wreck but was so "inside" of the experience I couldn't really see what was happening. I lost a lot of friends. Effexor helped me a lot, but didn't start until late in the game. Wish I'd tried it sooner. Had talked to one doc about BCPs, but as my symptoms were more emotional than physical, did not seem this would be likely to help.
OMG! I just learned my son was on drugs
What do I do? He's going to be 40 this year. I had heard years ago that he started on majjuania when he was over in Japan in the service, but didn't believe it. He and his wife broke up (supposedly) over her use of of meth and cocaine, but I didn't believe that either. Lately, he 's been bringing some "not so nice looking" friends around here for approval and not recieiving that, so I have not seen him since Christmas Eve. Tonight, I heard he is on heroin. This is absolutely the straw that broke the camel's back. He always denied he was on meth or cocaine, but tonight's "revealation" is absolutely too much if it's true.
I'm broken-hearted and devastated over this latest "rumor/truth" (from more than 1 person) and don't really know how to bring the subject up and/or confront him with this. I'm so disappointed [in my son] and thought he was smarter than this. Now I understand why he is not actively trying to find work (unemployed since May last year).
Any suggestions? Forget rehab unless it's free. We can't afford it.He's my only son and he had a very tough life trying to live up to my husband's idea of a (step)son, but he really looks up to him now. We have another son (my stepson) who never got into drugs, why my son? Could his life been so bad?
I love my son but am thoroughly upset with this latest revelation. I just don't know what to do, and would like to stand behind him, but if drugs are his first love, I'm afraid I can't do that. I'm not really a confrontal person and don't want to lsoe my son, but if he gets caught, I'm afraid I won't/can't bail him out of jail.
Your thoughts?
Can't say too much as daughter who had always been so much against drugs
told me not long ago that she now smokes pot. She is 37 and leading her own life but she was 1 who was so against and then? She and her brother both booze it up more than I think they should but then again, both grown so??
How is he affording to buy these drugs?
He hasn't worked since May? Maybe he is also selling drugs to afford his habit. If he is living with you, I would get him out ASAP!
Yes, but approximately 26 drugs were recalled in
I have no doubt that some drugs are worthwhile
but don't you ever type a list of meds a mile long and wonder how the poor patient (especially someone elderly) is still standing upright? Sometimes that makes me absolutely crazy. I think there is absolute validity in natural cures and I think the medical community or government or whomever is too quick to push yet another drug - or in this case, a vaccine - on the population without knowing exactly what the side effects will be.
I strained my lower back 3 weeks ago. My mother immediately assumed I was going to need surgery, friends insisted I needed drugs. I went to my chirpractor. It took several visits, but I am now pain free. Totally, 100% natural. (I didn't add this to start another whole debate, but just to make my point that there are alternatives.)
Have a great day!!
Figure it has to be drugs of some sort.....
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or drugs combined w/alcohol
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OMG!!! Does he supply them with drugs and alcohol
so they will be doing that in the safety of their home as well?
I am floored by that reasoning. Its as if there is no hope of teaching a child to make smart choices so might as well have them do it in front of you. What on earth is that teaching them?? I'm sorry but you do not need to be a parent to see how completely asinine that is.
By the way, you should ask him if his home is "safe" enough to preclude AIDS and other STDs, pregnancy, etc. Maybe he thinks there is some soft of "force field" protecting her there. Egads.
Drugs can affect people in different
and unexpected ways. I'm very sorry you and your son are going through this.
I had a very weird reaction to Topamax.
I hope the MD can help him. How scary.
I was told by a child I was doing drugs --
because that is what they were teaching in elementary school.
No and things have gotten insane concerning drugs
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When my now 20 yo DD told me about her drugs and alcohol sm
I asked that she wait until she was out of high school to have sex, because it carries big consequences and she needed to be ready for that. For that she waited for that, but tried marijuana twice and got drunk a couple of times too. I was shocked by my "good girl."
Maybe that is why she wanted to use fertility drugs...
to get her own show on TLC...heck, we all know how John and Kate plus 8 paid for that brand new spanking house in PA with tons of acres...not working on computers like they claim he does....
While I don't remember drugs ever being legal
I do know there was a time in this country where "recreational" drugs were legal. After all, that is where Coca Cola got it's name from (from the cocaine that use to be in it). From what I've read, seems to me there wasn't a problem with drugs in this country until it was made illegal ala prohibition. Now due to it being illegal, there is tons of money flowing in a lot of different directions as a result (the millions of jails that are being build to house all the recreational users, etc. plus the money that is made selling it, etc.). Heck, even though it's illegal, it's big business, so I can see everybody that's involved in it regardless of what side they are on fighting to keep it illegal.
Gotta be desperate for drugs. sm
Probably cocaine, powdered or even crack, but it could even be meth. It's the classic presentation--the insane behavior and desperation to get money to buy the drug of choice after being deprived for a couple of days.
You're right, best to stay away from her for good and change the locks on your doors or she could well come in while you're gone and steal everything that isn't nailed down to sell. Addicts do that all the time. So yes, please change your locks.
You cannot help this woman. She has to want help and get it for herself. Same with alcoholics, but alcohol is benign compared to cocaine and meth, and costs very little.
There are also far worse drugs used with cigarette filters
Try Googling things parents should look for regarding drug use and kids. Definitely not saying she's into anything really bad but I'd be watching her like a hawk.
Or withdrawal from other drugs, wouldn't doubt it.
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Just heard on NBC news that no illegal drugs or
alcohol were found. There was a rolled $20 bill found that had no traces of drugs. ET just reported that there were drugs found in the bill. Do any of us think the real truth will ever come out?
I also read abuse of prescription drugs.
Legal, illegal- does that really matter how it is obtained?
My money's on fertility drugs. (Possibly an
WOW
Chronic back pain, AKA, just keep me in drugs so I can be ..
in a stupor and maybe get disability or at least a handicapped sticker for my car.
Prostitution, Pot, Booze and Recreational Drugs
I am not talking about drugs that harm if used in moderation. I think our society has given the idea of "escaping reality" for a little while, a real stigma. I don't understand why we, as a society, frown upon pleasure. I think it is perfectly acceptable to "feel good"....what do you think?
And What about prostitution? Should it be legal everywhere? It is a "victimless crime".
But doesn't the FDA extensively test drugs before marketing? nm
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Use of illegal drugs, alcohol consumption, and cigarette
smoking are just as prevalent today as they were 20+ years ago. Perfect example: Look at the DARE program, that was introducted in grade school amost 20 years ago. There are no hard statistical facts that there are less drug abusers today than there were 20 years ago, so that 'program' was a complete failure and a waste of tons of money. These types of behaviors will go on until the end of time. No amount of education or imprisonment is every going to stop people from engaging in these types of behaviors.
Prostitution, alcohol, pot, recreational drugs, cigarettes...sm...
ALL should be illegal.
Some are not out of 'tax reasons'.
How come that people can only relax when they are under the influence of whatever?????
Sure she is mentally ill and I am sure all the drugs and the drug-laced lollipops didn't help!
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Drugs.com: Read on this site about more side effects of Xanax
Other side effects have included withdrawal symptoms following either abrupt cessation or fast tapering of alprazolam. Withdrawal symptoms may include agitation, restlessness, anxiety, insomnia, convulsions, tremor, abdominal cramps, blurred vision, vomiting, and sweating.
I think she said the father did not want her around
so really she should take that same stance. I think you just cannot sometimes may an enabler understand what they are doing wrong. My deceased husband, I talked to him about his enabling with his daughter and he told me he would do until his last breath and he did. She was a total invalid after that, did not have a clue (at 30 something) how to make her way. Oh well, glad I wasn’t the mother.
You ask about my son's father?
The father came around after the son grown and now lives with him. No money ever from him while my son growing up, not a penny, nothing. I have nothing against the father, just always thought he basically did good to take care of himself but not a father figure at all for the son. He was able to work, chose to live on the streets and finally got too old to be out there and my son and his family took him into their home. I was there but people have to understand what money does to people, especially if a lot of money, thousands and thousands. My son was upset about my inheritance and that is what happened. It is sad but not my fault he would choose the love of money over his mother. Wish him well.
your father
This is a touchy subject. Yes, it sounds a little like he may be trying to "take the easy way out" but really, what he is doing is self degradating and really desperate. I believe he needs help. Of course, he is not going to see it or admit it himself. That's WHY he needs help. He has threatened to take his life and spoken of wanting to die. I think you should call 911 or see if your town has a crisis team and tell them that he has said he is going to kill himself. Have him taken by ambulance or let the crisis intervention team figure out the transportation. Once he is at the hospital professionals will evaluate him and decide whether or not he needs to be committed against his will or long term treatment. They will give him counseling and even point him in the direction of how to start managing life again. The worse that could happen is that they say hes fine and send him home (which they will not do without at least providing him with information for outpatient treatment and other local agencies that can help him).
However, how will you feel if, God forbid, he does hurt or kill himself while you thought he wass just bluffing?
And even if it doesnt go that far...he will continue to harass you and your mom.
He needs help of some kind and as his daughter I think you should find a way to help him.
How do you know her father was
there for her? You are assuming that. As far as writing him off, it might be the best thing for her. Toxic people are very dangerous. Obviously you had a story book childhood and until you go through something like that, it is impossible to understand. Because it is a parent, it does not mean you have to put up with emotional and mental abuse.
Father in law
My father in law is an ok guy. One problem. He likes to come to our house and watch TV. On Saturdays and Sundays, I am off work, and I like to relax on the couch in Pjs and watch my TV. My husband drives an 18-wheeler, and a lot of times when he comes in if it is on weekends his dad will come over that morning and sit here ALL day long. My husband said last time you know I love dad to death and like for him to come visit but after a couple hours it is time to leave. Well now my husband isn't at home and he comes over to visit my son who is 11, and tells my son lets watch a movie or something. Well this is my weekend to relax and lay on the couch and watch TV. I feel like I can't relax in my own home. He doesn't have satellite at his house so he wants to sit here and watch. I am so fustrated. He needs to go home. I think he uses the excuse when my husband is gone to come see my son so he can sit here and watch movies. I would like to watch my own TV. URRRGHH! Any advice?
My father in law tried that with his indoor cat
and once they got outside the cat totally flipped out like a crazed wild animal. It was a very scary experience from what he described. So just be careful.
I do not live in 1 but my father had 1 and
when you pull the carpet up as I did when I got the trailer it only had cheap plywood underneath it. Having said this I was going to rent it out as eventually wanted to sell for the land it was on (6+ lake front acreage) so we put down linoleum (spelling?). A trailer is mostly made from the very cheapest you can get, thus the cheaper prices most of the time than homes. We took inexpensive commercial carpet for some of the bedroom floors and hubby put that down. These are about the cheapest you can do, don’t think your idea of a faux finish will work with the plywood but then you can always check on that. By the way, do you have to tar the roof of yours? Most trailers require this- did not know until after I had in possession- the only difference is a regular roof was put on this 1 - most are flat on the top and require tarring.
Actually he is a wonderful father...
who takes time out of his sleep schedule to be with them, eat dinner with us, go to kids' sporting events and the usual things people do without missing a beat because everything works out for their schedule. People who sleep during the night have no clue how hard it is to sleep during the day when it is light out, loud noises outside like lawnmowers, snowblowers, leafblowers, construction and more than you could realize. Nobody schedules meetings at 1:00 am so you have to get up after a few hours. Going to church on Sunday with your family and having family day requires less sleep because he works Sat. and Sun. night.
I feel sorry for you that you can't have an open mind enough to see that not everybody has the same life, same feelings, same jobs. If I can make him more comfortable including having a dark bedroom then I will and I asked for help in achieving this goal, not to have someone who doesn't know him or our family come on here and insult us. Not once did I say this was something he told me to do or makes me do..I am doing it because I love him. If he gets home in time in the mornings he gets the kids ready for school. Marriage is about give and take.
Your father was a 1 in a million.
A lot of men would have left being walked on and demoralized but your dad didn't want to leave you to suffer it alone. Usually, even when a mother isn't fit to raise a goldfish, mothers still get custody of the kids, and that's sad. There are a lot of great dads out there and they really need to be given the praise they deserve. What a great dad you had. I can see why you cherish him so much.
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