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SAFE HAVEN LAW

Posted By: Sis on 2008-09-21
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Wow, this just blows me away.  Last year or early this year a mother aged 17 or 18 gave birth to her 2nd child without parents or anyone for that matter knowing she was pregnant.  She walked into an Omaha Hospital and left her child in a restroom and walked out.  Please note at that time Nebraska was the ONLY state which did not have a safe haven law on the books.  It was pushed through shortly after and is now a law FINALLY.  Which is good because now mothers, who do not want to or cannot take care of their children have a safe place to take them without being in trouble for doing so. 


Well, to my understanding this law (NE only), does not have an age limit as to how old the chid can be when dropped off at the hospital.  Other states have it cut off at 14 but none have ever seen a child OVER 3.  This information came from a radio show about the new law yesterday.  Since the law was put in place a mother dropped off an 11 year old, a different family  dropped off a 9 year old and this mornings news has the following



















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Girl, 13, Abandoned At Omaha Hospital


State Takes Custody Of Teen Under Safe Haven Law



POSTED: 5:13 pm CDT September 20, 2008

UPDATED: 5:23 pm CDT September 20, 2008






The state has taken temporary custody of a teenage girl who was dropped off at an Omaha hospital Saturday under Nebraska's new safe haven law.

A representative from the state Department of Health and Human Services said the girl, 13, was left at Immanuel Hospital around midday. No other details were released.

The girl was the third child dropped off at Nebraska hospitals in the past week.











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The state's safe haven law took effect in July and allows parents to abandon children at hospitals and other locations. The law does not set a minimum age after which a child can't be left without prosecution.


 


Does anyone have any thoughts on this?  I agree with the law all the way.  I am just concerned about the after shock of having an older child dropped off at the ages stated above, what kind of damage is that doing to the child?  I do not agree with child abuse and know that older children are abused all the time but is there not another way we could deal with this? 


Just wondering what everyone else was thinking. 




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my kids had a safe haven to come sm
home to and they knew it and still know it. They have come back twice when times were tough and we didn't charge them a dime until they got on their feet in a couple months. I just think is an injustice to not charge them at all and let them go and do as they please when working and not going to school. You don't get to blow your money as you please as an adult, why should they if they are not in school?
Better safe then sorry
I support your reaction/action to the situation. It would seem to me that the FBI would not prosecute, and the court would not find him guilty, if it was sent to him in error. Be supportive to your daughter's friend's mother - but hold firm. Women's intuition is generally correct.
Did I say anything about not being safe?

That wasn't even the point of the OP.  She wanted to know about in-laws or anyone else just walking in without knocking.  My family and friends don't have to knock before they come my house.  That was my point.


I live in a rural area that I grew up in, everyone knows everyone else.  I have a nice, loud watch dog who lets me know when anyone is around.  The windows are locked.  The doors are locked at night and when we leave the house.  I know what kind of a world we live in.  The Pony Express brings the paper every couple of weeks back to the sticks.  I try to stay informed. 


Better Safe Than Sorry
Better to be safe than sorry, especially with beef -- that can be a very bad GI problem if the beef has gone bad with bacteria.

Happy New Year!!
is there nothing safe?
How can any of you get so excited and downright mean about something as basic as a vitamin question? Gee whiz, it's just a discussion board. So contentious.
Can't make them safe.
A 14 year old I know was killed on his bike a few weeks ago.  You can't make them live in a bubble.  I will pay for my kids insurance and their cars.  Of course they will have rules, although our state has plenty as it is for young drivers.  I will teach them to be responsible drivers, walkers, bike riders, etc.  Just because life can be hard, doesn't mean you have to make it be harder.  I moved out of my parents house just before my 15th birthday and took care of myself.  While it can be done, it doesn't always have to be.
If they kids are safe there - just let it go.
Some families do holidays as major events. If the stepmom and her family are half descent people and the kids are safe there then don't worry about it. :)


Oh, no. The dog is here, safe and sound.

A little on the bossy side with my dogs, but...LOL!  She's here and everyone is getting along for the most part. 


She needs to learn about safe sex. Either you SM
discuss this with her or, better yet, see doctor and have her given some form of birth control. I think this is imperative. If she is having sex, I don't think she is going to stop. You somehow have to convince her to act responsibly. Condoms would be the best thing.


It is already from a safe contact
I can open all mail, but where pics should be (and were before hotmail changed the look) are just boxes. It isn't just from one contact, but from all my contacts that I used to receive pics from. Now what? I sent an email to the contact site, but they have not answered me yet.
This one is completely fail-safe:
It's expensive. It's bad for your health. DUI's are expensive. AND, in 2008, if you're DUI and kill someone, you can be charged with MURDER, instead of merely vehicular manslaughter.

So I'm havin' a Coke, staying sober, and hopefully I'll live to enjoy yet another year.
Abstinence is not Birth Control, it is SAFE SEX.
Abstinence is truly the only SAFE SEX....but it is NOT considered birth control........
Here's a couple of safe pet food sites.....

http://www.flintriver.com/


http://www.petpromiseinc.com/
I hope your family stays safe. It looks really bad.
I hope they decide not to ride it out though. I have been watching on TV all day. Senator Kay Baily Hutchinson was just on Fox News and she believes Galveston is going to be underwater due to the storm surge. Not sure where your family is, but hopefully they thought better about staying and left.
Good grief, they deserve a safe sm
plce to live! They are not going to remember the big house, etc when they are grown. They WILL remember the abuse you subjected them to and did not get out.
Why not stay safe AND support the US economy
San Diego, Santa Barbara, Santa Monica/Venice Beach, LA Jolla, Pismo Beach, etc.

Also early spring is the best time to see the Grand Canyon, Southwest, etc., before it gets hot, and the hordes of tourist busses arrive.
So you think cell phones are safe? This is troubling!
This is probably what it does to our brain power - like putting your head in a microwave, 

 Click on POPCORN   or the link


Glad your son is safe and sound. Prayers to those who aren't. nm
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Oh my word! Talk about timing - I know you are glad that he is safe sm
and I am so glad for you. Praise God. I had absolutely NO idea that many were killed. Today was a no-tv day for me so I had no idea of the death toll. Count your blessings. I know you are. And yes, how tragically sad for those left behind. so senseless....I am so sad now.

:(
Hope you are safe in the Midwest with the terrible storms..
that are ravaging the area. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your families.
Kids want/need bounderies. Makes them feel safe
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Actually, relatives in suburban PA don't lock either and I feel safe there, roo. sm
But i would not feel safe in my own home unlocked, even though I'm in a gated community with tons of outside lights, etc. For some reason I feel safe in someone else's house more than my own.
Is it safe to drink unopened canned items
That have been refrigerated for a couple weeks. Found a can of pineapple juice my husband put in the refrigerator a couple weeks ago, but didn't open. I know it's not safe to put open cans in the refrigerator, not sure about something that has not been opened yet.
I have relatives in fairly rural Maine who never lock, and I feel totally safe there. nm
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I haven't done much yet...

I pulled out some flowers that didn't make it to the end of the summer, but some of my annuals look better now than they did earlier so I hate to pull them.  We haven't had a frost yet, so most of my summer stuff looks great.  Once we have a frost, I will pull the annuals and plant my bulbs.


I am in Central PA, so yes the leaves are starting to turn.  They look so pretty.  Where are you?  Your pepper plant sounded interesting.  What kind of weather, growing zone do they like?


I haven't been through this, but...
A good rule of thumb in life is to (1) not worry about things for which you don't have all the information, and (2) not worry about things over which you have no control. You don't have all the information necessary at this point and you definitely don't have control over what's going on, so worrying is absolutely unproductive and is added stress that your baby doesn't need right now.

I wish the best for you. Now go relax and think good thoughts!
I haven't used one myself, but...sm
my parents and sister have had excellent results with theirs.  They both have big, strong dogs - a black lab and a border collie mixed with something big and long-legged - and they both trained very quickly and easily. 
We haven't seen her yet but....sm
if you know of a weekend day in the future that you'd like to go we might could meet you there. I have a zoo membership and can get 1 adult and up to 2 additional kids in for no extra charge. E-mail me if you're interested.
I haven't been there
personally but have a friend who visits it regularly. For her 13th birthday instead of getting presents for herself, she asked the girls she invited to bring a gift for an animal and then spent her birthday up there at the shelter playing with the animals.


No, I haven't seen it.
I'm not sure if I've ever even seen it advertised.
If they haven't been to one themselves, they just don't get it. Wish I could go, too! nm
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I haven't, but need to.

I only have the one child, also, but a daughter, so I know the feeling of wanting to get that perfect gift for your "one and only."  She is four and wants everything, so I guess that makes it a little easier, since I can buy anything and it will be something that she wanted.   


Your son is going to be SO excited!  What a good mommy you are. 


haven't been there
but just wanted to wish you well. It sounds like you are making the right decision. My husband's father is an alcoholic and from what I have heard (we have talked about it a lot) it is not pleasant for kids. You are making the right decision for them. My MIL did not do the same for her kids but my husband still wishes she had.

His father is still an alcoholic and now we face the difficult decision with his influence on our children. We make the tough decisions that we feel are best for our kids. It's our job as parents and we know it is the right thing to do, despite what others within the family may say, namely the alcoholic FIL and MIL who still stands by his side and takes the abuse.

Good luck. It will all work out in time.
haven't really gotten into them...
although my sister is always seeming to be watching a lifetime movie!!!
They won't or haven't said. What do you think? nm
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Haven't seen her on HSN
but to answer your question, from what you're probably describing, she's always like that. I saw some of her jewelry on AI and one of the entertainmnet shows. Some of it's really nice and not overpriced from the pieces she had on.
Haven't seen that one all the way thru...
I'll watch it if so!
Haven't tried this yet...sm

but I have this recipe in my "To Try" files.  If the filets are really thin, I would grill them on an oiled sheet of aluminum foil. 


Ingredients
2 pounds flounder fish fillets 
1/2 cup olive oil 
1/4 cup lemon juice 
2 teaspoons salt 
1/2 teaspoon worcestershire sauce 
1/2 teaspoon cajun seasoning 


Directions
Arrange fish on a well-oiled grill.  Combine remaining ingredients and baste fish.  Grill, turning and basting occasionally, for 10 minutes per inch of thickness or until fish is flaky and no longer translucent in the center. 


Haven't you ever

Haven't you ever said something and after you said it you realized it didn't come out the way you meant it to and you wished you had never said it.  Men act first and think later most of the time.  My son is always teasing his wife, she wants to become a nurse practitioner and he always says he is going to retire when she gets her NP license.  He is kidding but if she was really touchy about it she would get mad.  He is an electrical contractor and makes alot of money but he still says he is going to retire and let her support him. 


Since this is a new relationship for you I would back off a little bit on paying for things.  Think of free stuff to do and spend more time with him getting to know him.  If he is looking for someone to pay the way he will be on his way and you will have your answer.


I did and haven't had any problems at all. nm
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I haven't done it in a while, but here is a site
that looks pretty good:

http://ezinearticles.com/?Crate-Training-A-Puppy-Or-Adult-Dog&id=87816

Keeping the crate in the family area during the day and your bedroom at night is very important for a puppy. Being alone is distressing, and they don't learn as well when they are stressed about that.

I know you're probably getting tired and frustrated, but you can do this. Good luck.
No I haven't - is it good? (nm)
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What is this show about? Haven't seen it.
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I haven't seen his show but...

have seen the ads for his show on HGTV.  He looks fun.  Like you would want to invite him over to a party at your house, even if he couldn't decorate for you!! 


Don't know about what he does with silk but whatever it is, I bet it is snappy!!!


I haven't tried it; I am using fitday.com


This website is free and is a tool used to help keep track of your calorie/fat/carb intake. 


I have limited myself to 1000-1200 calories a day.  I was really hungry for the first couple of days, but then I adjusted.  Now, I am not hungry.  If you go less than 1000 calories you won't lose any weight.  I started about 2 mos ago and I just hit the 20-pound mark today.  I don't have time to exercise.  I work full time and have 2 small children.  Now that it is nice, we walk across the street to the park a couple times a week, which doesn't really count 'cause it isn't "strenuous" at all.  Just being more active has helped me.  Plus I feel better about myself. 


I have a long way to go, but I am off to a great start!  Good Luck!!!


 


I haven't but would LOVE to!
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OMG! I haven't seen red poppies since I was
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How do you know they haven't been told already?
Maybe the parent's already told them and the kids or parents are saying anything to anybody about it. Anyhow, it is not your place to tell them.
I haven't ever met my doctor!

I've had her for 5+ years now and have no clue what she even looks like!  No matter where I've lived, I always ask to see the NP, but that's my choice.  I personally prefer seeing NPs, as I think they spend a lot more time with the patient and aren't as harried.  Plus, she's a fatty and I don't feel so bad about myself when I see her and I'm all nudie-toonie!  How bad is that?!  


                                    


Haven't noticed anything like that here
And I live only a few miles from Oklahoma City, which is Sonic HQ.
I haven't heard this? sm
I know she "surrendered" to the police on the DUI charge in May. She wasn't officially arrested until after she finished rehab. I haven't heard about her in jail right now.