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Question for sending to troops in Iraq (sm)

Posted By: Tis the season on 2007-11-20
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I want to send my cousin a care package for Christmas but want to know if there is a list of things I cannot send. Can anyone help me out?

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Troops in Iraq throw a puppy off of a cliff.

Marine Corps Base Hawaii is investigating a shocking video of a smiling Marine throwing a puppy off the top of a steep hillside in Iraq into a gully below.


The video today gained widespread attention and condemnation on the Internet.


"The video is shocking and deplorable and is contrary to the high standards we expect of every Marine," the Kane'ohe Bay base said in a release.


Base officials said the video came to their attention this morning. An investigation has been initiated. Maj. Chris Perrine, a Marine spokesman here, said "it's looking like" the Marine is based out of Hawai'i.


"We do not tolerate this type of behavior and will take appropriate action," the base said.


Two Marines are seen in combat gear smiling as one holds a white-and-black puppy by the scruff of its neck. The dog seems to be about 8 weeks old and is motionless as it is held.


"Cute little puppy, huh?" says one Marine as he smiles broadly.


"Oh so cute, so cute, little puppy," says another in a child-like voice.


The Marine holding the puppy is then seen throwing the animal overhand into a desert-like gully below. The animal yelps until it thuds to the ground at the bottom of the gully.


"That's mean," one Marine says afterward.


The 2nd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment of about 1,000 Hawai'i Marines recently replaced a sister unit in Iraq, the 3rd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment.


Marine Corps Base Hawai'i said the vast majority of Marines "conduct their duties in an honorable manner that brings great credit upon the Marine Corps and the United States."


There have been numerous stories of Marines adopting pets and bringing them home from Iraq or helping to arrange life-saving medical care for Iraqi children. Those are the stories that exemplify what we stand for and how most Marines behave."


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The video is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlCiUMoFu84
(Safe for work because it's blurry, but still very disturbing)

Some people have claimed it's possible the video is fake, but it doesn't seem likely.

Really, really sick.

This kind of twisted lack of humanity seems to stem partially from the brutal brainwashing soldiers go through in bootcamp, combined with the severe emotional stress of the field.

Whoever those guys are, I hope they're both discharged immediately, but I also hope they receive serious emotional help.


US Soldier Kills 4 Fellow Troops Before Killing Himself At US Base In Iraq

***UPDATE*** The Associated Press reveals more details about the shooter:


The suspect had been disarmed after an earlier incident at the center but returned with another weapon, according to a senior military official in Washington, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation into the shootings was ongoing.

***UPDATE*** The American soldier who shot dead five fellow soldiers at a U.S. base in Baghdad is in custody.


"The shooter is a US soldier and he is in custody," US marine corps lieutenant Tom Garnett, a US military spokesman in Iraq, told reporters.


The New York Times adds some perspective to the tragedy:


The killings appeared to be the worst case of soldier-on-soldier violence among the American forces based in Iraq since the invasion more than six years ago.
The shootings, which took place at a stress clinic, highlight the problem of post-traumatic stress disorder among U.S. soldiers, notes the Guardian:


Stress is one of the biggest killers of US soldiers in Iraq. About a fifth of all US troops are thought to be suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, contributing to high divorce and suicide rates. An estimated one fifth of the 4,292 members of the US force in Iraq have died from non-combat causes, either in accidents or from suicide.
***UPDATE*** According to Fox News, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs Monday relayed President Obama's response to the tragedy. Obama expressed shock and sadness and is promising to fully investigate what exactly transpired at Camp Liberty, so as to prevent such incidents in the future.



***UPDATE*** AP has another update. The shooting was at a 'stress clinic':


Pentagon officials say five Americans are dead after a U.S. soldier opened fire at a U.S. base in Baghdad. They say the attacker is in custody.


The officials say the shootings happened on Camp Liberty at a stress clinic, where troops can go for help with the stresses of combat or stress from personal issues.


One senior military official in Washington says it's unclear whether those killed are workers at the clinic or were there for counseling. He says officials also are unsure whether all the dead are members of the military.



***UPDATE*** ABC News reports that the U.S. soldier who attacked fellow troops on a U.S, base in Iraq has killed five of them and is now in custody. Initial reports suggested that he had turned the gun on himself after his rampage.


***UPDATE*** AP now reports that the U.S. soldier who went on a rampage against his fellow troops in Iraq may have survived the incident:



Pentagon officials say five U.S. soldiers are dead after an American soldier opened fire at a U.S. base in Baghdad.


The officials say the shootings happened Monday at Camp Liberty near Baghdad's airport.


One senior military official in Washington said it was not yet clear whether the shooter was among the dead. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the circumstances surrounding the deaths are under investigation.


Initial reports indicated the Army soldier shot several others, then turned the gun on himself. But it was unclear whether he, too, had died.



***UPDATE*** CNN reports that 3 other U.S. soldiers were wounded during the friendly fire incident that has left 5 U.S. troops dead. An American soldier killed 4 of his fellow troops before killing himself.


According to the Washington Post, it is the single greatest loss of life in a single incident involving U.S. soldiers since a truck bomb last month took the lives of 5 American soldiers.


***UPDATE*** CNN has just sent out a breaking news alert reporting that senior defense officials have told the network that a US soldier killed 4 of his fellow troops before killing himself. Check back for more information.


McClatchy is reporting that a shooting at a U.S. base in Baghdad has left 5 soldiers dead. The shooting occurred at Camp Liberty, a base near the Baghdad airport.



 


Tribute to our troops

Please remember our soldiers and their families this holiday season.  Bless them all.


 


http://pcsuccess.us/yrg/farewellmarine_final.swf


We always send a huge box of goodies to the troops!
I include a card telling them how very appreciative our family is for what they are doing and that they are not forgotten!
iraq/daughter
Bless your heart.....I hope she fares well....I've a young man who was in Behran at the height of it....came back somber and shell-shocked and can be called back up any day now.  I don't think it's right to be expected do 3 tours of duty with this "volunteer" army,navy, marine corps,air force, coast guard, national guard.  Send the big-wig politician's kids in to do it, darn it!  Perhaps you're daughter willl reconsider. My prayers are with you.  Cat 
Iraq gifts sm
Again, cannot emphasize enough the importance of these guys and gals giving their lives so we can live free. Just imagine some terrorist knocking at your door! Gosh, these guys are OUR guys who are offering their lives for us, and will not ask for a thing. The operative word here is NOTHING, is which they ask for. Let's send them lots of SOMETHING! My opeative word is FIRST which is them. Let's get some dialogue going. No negative postings please! Let's just emphasize our GUYS AND GALS who will not be home for CHRISTmas!!!!!!!! I'm ready to give, are you?? Only legit please, we have a brain!
My son served in Iraq and he said he liked
The deck of cards I sent the best! That was sort of an add-in at the last minute to fill space in the box, yet he got the most use out of that.

He also liked the puzzle books and hard candy.
Heard from my nephew in Iraq!
I have written briefly about my 19-year-old nephew who is involved in this latest operation in Baghdad to route Al-Qaeda insurgents. Since it had been announced that his Division/Brigade was one of the primary groups in this action, we've all been just sick with worry. I just wanted to let you guys know that I had a very brief "I'm ok" email from him last night. He can't really say what he's doing or anything (naturally) but we're just sop happy to hear that he's okay. I can't think when I've been happier to open an email in my life! So I just wanted to share that happy news and to thank those of you who are praying/sending good thoughts/etc. for all of our troops. It means more than you can possibly realize.


if you have family in Iraq or Afghanistan,
and particularly if you are a Christian: I have a friend (a ranch wife) who has a number of things going on (for one, menopause, another feeling isolated) and she has all of her 4 sons serving right now, one in Afghanistan where things have been getting heated. She is very emotional, upset and i was wondering if any of you might be able to send (via e/m to me which i will forward) any words of encouragement. She was told by another friend, she didn't "have enough faith" which for the devout person she is, i think really hurt. I am just hoping someone in a similar situation who has a special understanding, maybe could help lift her spirits and encourage her.  Thanks for caring.
I would love to, but my husband is in Iraq :(
no message.
ever thought of donating to the troups in iraq? sm
most of the time the only way they have of contacting family at home is by using calling cards. great donations/gifts to send overseas. i know a few and that is all i ever get asked to send.
Holiday gift for nephew in Iraq

I'd like to send a gift/gifts to my nephew in Iraq. This is his first Christmas away so I know it will be hard for him. If possible, I'd like to include something personal just for him and maybe some stuff for his buddies to share. I asked him point-blank what he'd like and, typical guy, he says "anything" which is of NO HELP at all. I have no clue what they're allowed to have or not have.


You guys have any ideas? Thanks!


Letter or card writing to Iraq sm
Get an address for someone in Iraq and have them all write a letter or draw a picture for them.. All it will cost you is to buy some paper & envelopes and provide a stamp, won't cost much more for material than most projects. There was an address on here and perhaps she will e-mail you. My brother never forgot that my son's class did this for him. At that time the postage was free, not so with this president, I assume. I put postage in mine to Iraq, didn't ask.Dont know what the postage is today - it should be free but I seriously doubt it.Perhaps some parents would donate stamps as well.
LOL. Sending this to MY mom...nm
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My husband I have, many times. Gas gouging, oil, immigration, Iraq. sm
he calls about anything he feels they should know about. You would be amazed at how easily you can get through to talk to them. If they are not there, their aide will take a message and you either get a phone call back or a letter.

In Michigan we have Carl Levin, Debby Stabenow, and Vern Ehlers. Their aides and my husband are on a first name basis. Literally. The aides are the front line of the reps and sens etc. They DO make note and you DO get a letter in the mail about your phone call. It doesn't really change anything, but at least the elected officials are aware of what the temprament of the voting public is.
Sending You Prayers
I'm so sorry that you have to though this again if you did miscarry. My thoughts are prayers are with and your husband.
Sending you hugs - sm

I am so sorry for your loss.  They are like our babies and it is so hard when we lose them.  Take care of yourself and give yourself time to greive.  Think about maybe a shadow box with your kittie's things in it as a memory. 


Thank you! From a Mom who had 2 daughters, serving 3 separate tours in Iraq - twice over Christmas.
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Sending healing thoughts to you - see msg
I'm so sorry for your losses. Elder care is so difficult; I believe their bodies are so fragile that a single event can take them so quickly. Hindsight is nearly always 20/20 but I honestly believe most doctors and facilities do the best they can. We nearly lost my 80-yo MIL a year ago to similar circumstances, and it made us all aware, including her, that she cannot take anything for granted and that every day is a gift.

Regarding your concerns on her salvation, please don't take that burden onto yourself or play the "what if" game, it will only torture you. Lean on Him and trust in that. (((hugs)))
In the jail they're sending her to,
inmates only get 3 pairs of underwear per week!




Which is apparently 3 pairs more than she normally has.
sending positive thoughts
Hope everything works out for you. . My brother and his daughter have barely spoken to each other for over 12 years. . He now has 2 grandchildren. . I hope he will make that same first step you are making to mend fences. . Life is short - it's time for you to enjoy your grandchildren!
Been there...sending you good thoughts and hugs!....
Hope the day gets better.
that's why i stopped sending Christmas cards
I never got any in return. That's not why I was sending them out, but why waste all that time and energy if nobody cares about it?

Sending prayers and positive thoughts your way. SM
I hope your son realizes we all make mistakes (including him) and that he finds it in his heart to forgive. Your grandchildren need to know you and vice versa. I truly hope it all works out for you. My dad and I were estranged even after I repeatedly attempted to reconcile and he died without ever meeting my children. So sad.
there is a reason and why would you consider sending an 8-year-old to a home?
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Person sending email to me has no clue
I got an email saying I never loved my brother and I should share what my father gave me with my SIL. I do not owe her 1 red cent. When my brother died in the early 70s she got a settlement then of between $350,000 and $400,000. Do you realize how much money that was then? My mother tried really hard to have the courts set up some kind of guardenship for their 2 minor children (her son's children) so they would have something to live on in later years. Being as my mother was only the grandmother, the courts would not allow this. The money gotten in the settlement was literally squandered. Just for the record, the 3 g'children she spoke of the other day included 2 of her's and 1 being mine. The really bottom line on this was the g'children would have never been able to keep the property because between the 3 of them they basically did not have 1 nickel to rub amongst them. I was paying and had paid prior to my father's death the insurance on the property and the property taxes also. The 3 g'children could not have done it. It takes a lot to keep a property up. My aunt told me is that is water under the bridge, a done deal. Before emailing you should have your facts straight.
"I told hubby would not mind picking up & sending to her"
rtq
Our Brownie troop is sending a care package (sm)
Glad I found someone to ask about this!

We wanted to have them make something...just baked cookies and made ornaments. After reading below will also add jolly ranchers and beef jerky...will the cookies ship ok? Do you have suggestions? I have to ship them today. They are in ziplocks and cushioned with tissue paper - any other suggestions? Thanks!!
Definitaly sending prayers for your daughter and family. nm
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I remember Mexico sending aide when Katrina hit
It really surprised me, and I was very touched by it. I remember thinking at that time, all these countries we've helped and the only place that sends help our way is poor ol' Mexico.
Don't feel like sending Christmas cards this year

Christmas is next week.  Got pix of the family to put in the cards, and tons of Christmas cards from last year's Christmas sales.  Every day, I say, I will do these cards.  At least to grandma and grandpa on both sides.  Every day, I put it off.  DH got a roll of stamps and he has the cards sitting on his nightstand with pix, he has not done any either. 


Thus far we got several newsletters from people, saying they did this, they did that, they celebrated this birthday, their kid did this and that.  We don't plan to do a newsletter this year, b/c it seems to me these newsletters sound so self-centered! They are not even from family members, they are from DH coworkers and such.


My friends send me e-cards pretty much or we chat over the I-net.  We send holiday greetings and catch up that way.  My son will be getting grandma and grandpa's on both sides presents the end of the week, and I think I will just put the pictures in the packages when I send and forget about the cards.


This is really sad.  Years ago, Dec 1 we'd get a bunch of cards and have ours sent out.  Different colors of ink on the envelopes, red and green, holiday stamps, it would be so fun.  All the cards we'd get my dad or I would put on a board in shape of a tree and we'd put it on the wall. 


Now, it seems with snail mail, and so many other worries about cutting budget, finding enough work, I am not in the mood to write cards.  Maybe it will become a thing of the past, and the boxes of cards will accumulate dust in the top of the closet.


Anybody else in this predicament? Thanks in advance for sharing your card stories.


he didn't bring back Nelli cuz he knew he was wrong for just sending those 2 in the meeting.
nm
Anyone getting an IRS return can you tell me how long it took after sending in your return. nm
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