Put up an electric fence and fry her dogs. Then say OMG, I'm so sorry.
Posted By: mm on 2007-04-30
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- Put up an electric fence and fry her dogs. Then say OMG, I'm so sorry. - mm
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Secondary fence for dogs???
Can anyone please point me in the right direction as to how to go about installing a secondary fence/barrier in my yard, what material is best to use, etc.
My husband and I are trying to avoid spending money we don't have on getting a privacy fence just because our neighbors are idiots and don't feel the need to adhere to the rule of not letting the dogs out at the same time. We have been in our home for 3yrs now and our dogs have never gotten along. Granted they were here first (as my husband says), but I could care less because our dogs have just aabout that They are rather large dogs, we have two and they have three. Trying to break the fighting up when it happens is fraught with failure because when they get going its like trying to stop a moving train!
Unfortunately, neither side has the time nor energy to re-train the dogs, so I figure a secondary fence is in order due to the fact that there is already an existing 6ft chain link fence up. The fence does not belong to us and the neighbors have not taken the initiative to tweak the fence with slats, so it is now left up to us to figure out. I read that a secondary fence to that portion of the yard is the cheapest, non-permanant thing we could do to solve this problem.
fence
I would check out Home Depot or Lowes. You can look online and find the prices.
fence sm
Long time but (excuse typing, motherboard problems) - having it installed will cost you big bucks. Measure how many 8 foot sections you will need to complete the job, buy a post hole digger, be sure it's okay with your neighbor(s). The "nice" side has to be on their side and you will also need a level to be sure it is even. It's a job for more than 1 person, of course. We could not pay to have it done. Perhaps you could have a "fence party" - depending where you live, you may need to coat the posts for bugs before you bury them, or use steel postss. Hard to tell - depends on area where you live, type of material, wood vs. vinyl, style, etc., cedar or other. Best of luck to you, good fences make good neighbors, etc., also gates are expensive, but you may need to figure one in depending on set-up - installation too expensive, get some friends to help!
fence
how do you keep your cat in the fenced in yard?
Cost of fence??
Hi. My husband and I are getting ready to buy our first house and would like to know the approximate cost of getting a 6 ft privacy fence. We have absolutely no idea how much something like this costs :) Our new backyard is 85 x 110. I know the cost can vary, but can you please just give us an estimate if we had someone build it and also if we just bought the supplies and did it ourselves? Thanks for any info!
cost of fence
My hubby is a carpenter as is son. They buy their supplies for fencing through Home Depot or Lowe's or any building supply. I would go on line and Google fences, how to build and that should bring up some sites for building a fence, as to what supplies wood versus vinyl. The cost depends on where you live, as some areas are more expensive than others. I know you can buy directions on web sites on line, as I just ordered a design for a pergola my son is going to build for my daughter. You have to measure where your fence will be, then go to a store or on line. There should be someone at Home Depot or Lowe's or lumbar supply place who can help you. Also, having a company install a fence is much more expensive than doing it yourself. I know this well as my husband and son have put up a few fences. Hope this helps.
Thank you!! And to top it off, they dug holes to get under the fence onto OUR sm
property. There were at least 8 of them. I get sick every time I think about the irresponsible dog owners. The police came out twice and animal control never did show up for the incident. I should sue the city, to be honest. All of our goats were killed. We have 3 small children. Next, and I hate to say it, it could be them. I don't want to sell this place either. We love it out here. I hate being a prisoner on our own property.
Shelties or Australian Sheep Dogs are great family dogs. rm
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The fence did not cause the dog to die. The owner did by not making sure
the batteries were changed on a regular basis. The fence and the dog are blameless. The only one who had any control over the situation dropped the ball....poor dog.
Pricing out privacy fence...
When I landed at our place in 2002, I quickly learned I HAD to put up a privacy fence for the safety of my animals as well as the safety of the little kids who visit their grandparents next door, because I found them once too often in the pasture trying to pet the animals, and a hoof to their forheads would have been a very bad thing.
I went to Home Depot and quickly got discouraged at not only the cost of doing it yourself, but the labor and tools required. I live in New England and the ground is 90% ROCK...try digging a post hole through THAT and have fence posts spaced out appropriately...ain't gonna happen.
So, I called a fence place that was in the phone book. They came over FOR FREE, measured out what I wanted, sat down with me and a book and showed me what was available, gave me costs, and said "call us when your're ready."
You bet your bippie I went with the fencing company. They had 274 feet of 6' cedar privacy fence completely installed in ONE DAY for under $4000 (back in 2003). They had the guys, the knowhow, and the proper equipment. I had to go with metal pipes instead of wood poles because our ground is so wet and rocky, and I thought it would be ugly, but it has worked out absolutely wonderfully. I haven't painted or stained it either, just let it turn that pretty gray that cedar does.
You can see some pictures of it on my website here:
http://www.perin.org/images/specialnelliewinta.jpg
http://www.perin.org/Webpics/slides/Frogs%20yum.html
Best investment ever...not only for the safety factor, but also for the privacy, as you can see from the photos, even though we have lots-o-land, the neighbors were just too darned close. Grab your phone book, look up fence installation companies, and at least get those free estimates. 
This house has no fence around it at all, to be exact. nm
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My child has been on both sides of that fence (sm)
He has been bullied before but he has gotten really good at standing up for himself. I literally have given him comebacks that he can use if he is being verbally bullied, and have told him that while he is never allowed to start a fight he is always allowed to defend himself and even though he may get in trouble at school, he will not be in trouble at home.
One time last year (fifth grade) he was verbally bullying a boy in his class. He said some pretty mean things. I got the phone number to the boy's house through a mutual friend, called, and then too my son to the boy's house to apologize in person, in front of the boy's parents. We talked for a long time beforehand about how the boy must feel to have to go to school and have someone say things like that to him, role-playing such as "how would you feel if that was you" sort of thing. He also lost computer priveleges for a week. He has never bullied anyone else.
However, he did kick a boy in the shin earlier this year when the boy hit him and said he was going to beat him up. My son is strong but doesn't like to fight. I think all kids should be able defend themselves if needed though.
Speaking from the other side of the fence....
I have a DH with an ex-wife. She went down every 6 months to get his child support raised. Whether she needed it or not.
All she did was call the caseworker at Friend of the Court (That's what we call it in Michigan). There is a copy of the divorce decree etc on file at the court house.
So I would think that if you called your version of Friend of the Court where you live, they would be able to help you get things rolling. And at no cost either. In fact, they have forms down at our courthouse.
Good luck.
gas or electric?
would you please tell me if you prefer gas or electric for cooking and why? Need to buy a new stove and am trying to decide which. Talk about a rough couple of months. October - had to buy new washer and dryer, January the died, February the garage door opener died, and now the stove!
No electric needed.
If they sleep together, they dont need electric heat, body heat will be enough. I would build a "cave" of strawbales, toss in some loose straw and there ya go. I wouldnt use blankies as if they get wet, they will freeze. Like lying on an ice cubes Mostly, dogs just need to be out of.the wind. If they dont sleep together, just build 2 caves. Either way, should be snug so body heat will build a pocket of warmth around dog.
Electric Bill
Bill was $64.00!
$33.00 for actual electrical usage
$31.00 for Cust charge, Standard Metering charge, Distribution Facilities Charge, Transmissions Services Charge, Purchased Electricity Adjustments, Environmental Cost Recovery Adj, Energy Efficiency Programs, Franchise Cost, State Tax and Municipal Tax.
These dogs appear to be puppy mill producing dogs.
The two females, which I thought were older, appear to be just worn out/depleted. Their teeth are those of a 3-5 year old dog. So, I do believe they have had litters each cycle and are suffering from malnourishment.
Funny thing, yesterday, they were covered with mud (it rained and they were digging) and this morning, I look out and see they have all been grooming as they are clean.
Called Love of Animals who has committed to spaying/neutering the animals, giving them their shots, flea repellant and showing them at Pets Mart on Sundays. In a few months, there will be a regional dog show at the local college where on average 150 dogs are adopted out and she asked that I keep them until then.
Which I will...And a girl saw the ad for the Lost Pets and is looking for a replacement for her Shi Tzu she lost a year ago and will come by tomorrow morning.
Neuton cordless electric
A gas-powered mower is like a small car -- needs spark plug and oil changes.
Before I bought my Neuton, I used a cordless electric Black & Decker until it finally died. Google it and you will see the website. A little expensive but maintenance free. I've had a year now and no complaints.
Have you tried the electric candle warmers?
They work really well too without the flame.
Post again when you get your electric bill and
DON'T FORGET to send your warranty in. Hopefully, it will last longer than my Eden Pure. Do a follow up, please. I'm still thinking about it.
Electric pressure cooker...
The electric pressure cooker seems nice, and I like that it has a removable pot, but it didn't look it would hold very much, and then the top of it may be hard to wash. I've kind of gotten away from buying the very-tempting electric appliances. They are hard to wash, and to hard to store. I guess if I had a huge amount of cabinets, I would though.
Make sure there are electric poles
already set up in that area because it's VERY expensive to have utilities run to the middle of nowhere, at least that's how it is here. That's the biggest expense.
I have both - gas cooktop & electric oven sm
My oven is a wall oven, and I am so spoiled by it that it could be a make or break factor in whatever house we buy after this one. I love the fact that the stovetop is gas with the ability to cool down a pan immediately when cooking without having to move it. I had never had a gas stovetop before this and it did take a little getting used to, but I love it now and would never go back to electric without a fight.
I have the Oral B electric toothbrush and love it.
I can't remember what model it is, but it has the little round toothbrush heads. It was recommended by my dentist (a family member), and we've been using it for years. My teeth definitely feel cleaner, rarely does anyone get cavities around here, and there is far less plaque, so easier cleaning. We all go to the dentist every six months, too. It helps to have a dentist in the family!
Do you live in Texas? Our electric bill
for our tiny 2 bedroom house, trying to keep from running the air conditioner too much, using spiral bulbs, turning everything off as much as possible & being careful, is still about $250-$300 in the summer months. I don't know why some states have cheap electricity and some are so high! It's crazy.
Heat Surge electric fire place
I posted a few weeks ago about an article I saw for a Heat Surge electric fireplace with a wooden mantle built by the Amish.
Well I received it about 1.5 wks ago and I must say that it is absolutely beautiful! It is virtually noiseless, I seriously cannot hear it running at all. The brightness of the flame is adjustable and it has a low and a high heat setting. Best of all, it works! It does exactly what I had planned on and keeps the back of my house at a reasonable tempurature during the night so I do not have to worry about keeping the wood stove in the front going full blast all night.
The kids turned it on one evening when they were playing pool and they actually ended up turning it off because it got to warm.
So in my opinion, if you want something that is beautiful, well built, safe, and does provide more than enough heat for a room or two (mine is between the family room/kitchen which is all one long room) then it is absolutely worth the money.
I love my electric ceramic/glass cook top, but
you have to clean the darn thing and keep it clean!!! Its not as hard as taking the electric coils out of the old one and cleaning it. You can turn it off for the last 5-10 minutes of your cooking and it will still be hot just as hot and cut electricity that way!!! DO A LOT OF COOKING IN A SLOW COOKER.... you can even bake in a slow cooker. it costs 2 cents an hour!!!! The oven can cost up to $5 depending on what kind you have!!!
General Electric Cooper - our orange cat with stripes that looked like (sm)
electricity. I think? What were we thinking of? I always had a vivid imagination and parents were on drugs in the 70s so they probably thought that was hilarious. 
I have my dogs on it, and yes all my past dogs but 2 have died -sm
from cancer. But I had 2 schipperkes on Frontline for years and one died at 13 from cancer, the other at 16 just from old age/kidney failure. My last husky was 8 when she died from cancer, but I have had one die at 2 (unknown causes), and another at 9.5 from liver cancer (she actually made a nice recovery but succumbed about 6 months later), but huskies don't tend to live past 10 unfortunately. I have had purebreeds and mutts, and with or w/o Frontline/Advantage they have all died from cancer. I suppose it is possible that it causes it, but if you live long enough, cancer will most likely be your cause of death, anything and everything causes cancer anymore. I hate fleas and ticks and we have lots of them, so the dogs get the Frontline except in the cold winter months. They are 6 and 3 and both doing quite well.
And dogs don't bite right? Love my dogs but I
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my dogs are basically indoor dogs sm
but have a doggie door to go in and out as they please. Sometimes our Jack Russell gets excited and barks inside the house. My DH grabs is belt and snaps it and the loud noise shuts her up right away. I am not trying to frighten our dog, but many times just saying knock it off doesn't work.
Poll. The Nebraska high court decided that the electric chair is inhumane. What do you think? nm
I think it should be legal and used in certain circumstances. I mean, if DNA proves that the person committed the crime, confesses to it, is caught on tape - why can't the electric chair be used on them? What about the inhumanity that the "convict" used on his victims?
Where dogs came from (sm)
A newly discovered chapter in the Book of Genesis has provided the answer to 'Where do pets come from?'
Adam and Eve said, 'Lord, when we were in the garden, you walked with us every day. Now we do not see you any more. We are lonesome here, and it is difficult for us to remember how much you love us.'
And God said, I will create a companion for you that will be with you and who will be a reflection of my love for you, so that you will love me even when you cannot see me. Regardless of how selfish or childish or unlovable you may be, this new companion will accept you as you are and will love you as I do, in spite of yourselves.'
And God created a new animal to be a companion for Adam and Eve.
And it was a good animal.
And God was pleased.
And the new animal was pleased to be with Adam and Eve and he wagged his tail.
And Adam said, 'Lord, I have already named all the animals in the Kingdom and I cannot think of a name for this new animal.'
And God said, ' I have created this new animal to be a reflection of my love for you, his name will be a reflection of my own name, and you will call him DOG.'
And Dog lived with Adam and Eve and was a companion to them and loved them.
And they were comforted.
And God was pleased.
And Dog was content and wagged his tail.
After a while, it came to pass that an angel came to the Lord and said, 'Lord, Adam and Eve have become filled with pride. They strut and preen like peacocks and they believe they are worthy of adoration. Dog has indeed taught them that they are loved, but perhaps too well.'
And God said, I will create for them a companion who will be with them and who will see them as they are. The companion will remind them of their limitations, so they will know that they are not always worthy of adoration.'
And God created CAT to be a companion to Adam and Eve.
And Cat would not obey them. And when Adam and Eve gazed into Cat's eyes, they were reminded that they were not the supreme beings.
And Adam and Eve learned humility.
And they were greatly improved.
And God was pleased
And Dog was happy.
And Cat didn't give a hoot one way or the other.
dogs
I love that - this year, my niece's huge yellow Lab grabbed a pie off the dessert table. Needless to say, nephew put the dog outside. We all thought it was funny - niece did not!
dogs
What breed are your dogs? The darker one looks like she has Boxer markings, but I have never seen one like the blond. Reminds me of a G.S. Beautiful dogs, no matter what they are!!
Oh and he's not alone. He has 2 other dogs with him.
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Outside dogs (sm)
Outside we have a Boykin Spaniel (you can get these sometimes from rescue centers, Google if interested) and we have a mixed breed - Basenji and probably lab. Both have plenty of fur but not too much and love to be outdoors.
hot dogs....
kosher and nonkosher to cover all your bases.
I only like ketchup but you know there are those that want everything, so ketchup, mustard, mayo(yuck), relish, onions, chili?
hot dogs and brats...cover all your bases.....same on toppings...EVERYTHING!
If you have the space, fries are great when it's cooler weather.
Can/bottled drinks probably the best best. Less space, more drink for the buck anyway.
dogs
Uggg. I feel for you. At least the dog isn't being abused but I understand your frustration.
BTW you get the little icon thingies when you click "post reply to this message". They should be right underneath the message box and just click on the ones you want. Don't click "quick reply" because then they don't pop up. 
dogs
as a child, we had a rat terrior, irish setter and german shepherd - and daddy always had beagles.
as an adult, we have had a german shepherd, beagle, toy fox terrior, cocker spaniel, collie, border collie and right now we have a corgi and a chocolate lab.
Dogs
Since I was a little kid, Dad has always had dogs. I remember we had a black lab, a brittney spaniel, a toy poodle (wretched dog), a German short-hair, and 2 mutts. He and Mom now have another black lab. My sheltie, Casey, just died this summer. Now I have 4 cats. The last one (a calico kitten) got dropped off (we live on a farm and it happens all the time!) the week after my dog died and just suckered me in.
I have two dogs
They love me and are all over me every chance they get. Most dogs love me. The dog next door will look at my kitchen window and if she sees me, she will wag her tail and bark until I come out and pet her.
I am horribly afraid of German Shepherds. I got bit near my eye by one. My BIL has 2 of these dogs and they can tell I don't like them. But they just avoid me.
Now my friend who lives about a mile from me has a small dog and that dog hates me with a passion. It gets so upset and snarly when it even hears my van. I refuse to go in her house until that thing is caged. Am I bad person? I don't think so. Funny thing, I drive past her house to pick my girls up from school. They have a couch in front of a big window and every day when it is time for me to go by, that dog gets up on the couch and when I drive by it freaks.
I have 3 dogs
My newest addition is a dauchshound puppy. I got her back in March (or maybe April - can't remember). Anyway, she is now 9 months old and all puppy. She is relentless with my other 2 dogs, especially my little Maltese who is 7 years old. Just runs around her, nipping at her tail, and racing away. I know she's playing but it's NOT a game to my little white furball. And she doesn't quit! So, when you have had this situation, how do you stop it? How do I get this puppy to understand that she needs to stop this behavior? Other then this annoying habit of hers, she's a wonderful, funny, loving little girl!
Dogs!!
do you have a picture of yours? My dogs are the sweetest things, but they are DEFINITELY barkers if they hear anything outside and I agree with you, people can break in, but if they hear those dogs barkin, they are PROBABLY gonna turn right around and go somewhere else!!!
dogs
Boston terriors are great with kids and a great family dog.
Are the dogs okay if they don't see each other?
Years ago when I lived in Detroit and we had chain link fences, there was a nylon type of material that you could get to weave in and out of the chain links in the fence. Sort of like the stuff that the old style folding outdoor chairs were made of. It gave you privacy in terms of not being able to see on the other side, but you could still hear everything. Would the dogs still go nuts if they could hear and smell each other, but not see each other?
The nylon in the fence is old school and not necessarily pretty, but it might work.
I have 2 dogs........... sm
and my Chow, Butch, will not let "Old Yeller" eat. He chases him off. Butch is an older dog and rather grumpy to Old Yeller, so my son has started bringing Old Yeller inside the utility room so he can get a decent meal. I don't keep food out at all times because my dogs are outside dogs, but if you have a self-feeder or keep food out all the time, sounds like the distance between the bowls is a good idea.
We also take the dogs with us sometimes - sm
depends on where we are going and what we are doing. We do a lot of camping and boating, so this one place we go to and rent a cabin allows animals so we do take them there sometimes. Usually it is just easier to leave them home, plus downsized our truck from a Suburban to a Trailblazer so unless we put everything in the boat, there is no room in the car/truck for the dogs, lab and extra-large husky. (or we only take the lab, but I feel bad when we do that!)
I am doing all I can for the dogs....sm
I am using my gas to go back and forth to their house to make sure the dogs are eating and get to go out, etc. I love dogs but I have 2 inside to care for, 1 out in a fenced in yard that I out of the goodness of my heart because I am a succer for dogs rescued and I put her in my back fenced in yard and take care of her. Then I have my husbands beagles I take care of while he is gone out of town working. I have approximately 13 dogs to care for on a daily basis. Only 3 of them are mine. I think I am a pretty nice person to take the responsibility of cleaning the beagles pens everyday and feeding them and giving them attention. FIve of them belong to my husband and five belong to a friend of his. I do all this for all these dogs because I love them. With caring for so many dogs already I think it is kind of rude of them to even ask me to take there 2 dogs too and take care of them. When they asked I did show reluctance and said I dont know. Then finally I said I guess. I think they should board their dogs at the vets or pay a sitter, etc. I have 2 dogs in the house. I have never tried to pawn my dogs off on other people. If I knew someone genuinely did not mind it would be different but they had to see the hesitancy I had to begin with. They do this all the time. They are frequently asking for somone to keep their dogs. Well about a year ago I told them I would no longer be able to keep their 2 dogs because I have 2 in the house and 2 more is too many inside. So then they started getting her brother and his wife to keep them. I guess they got tired of it and stopped keeping them cause then they started boarding them. Well that costs money so they are back to asking me. Well I will not keep them anymore for 2 reasons.
1. The dogs are not well behaved dogs. They act like wild animals in the house.
2. One of them is not properly house trained and will pee in the floor or poop.
3. I have 2 dogs already and 4 in the house is too much.
As for my dog not being neutered he is in his own house. I didn't ask them to bring their dogs over here and my husband specifically asked is she in heat. My female is spayed. If they are going to be leaving the dog frequently they need to have her spayed so they don't have this problem. As for me I will not keep them anymore even if she was spayed simply because the dogs are like wild animals.
Great dogs...sm
The little weiners are one of the best dogs. Great personalities. The only thing negative is when puppies they chew on everything! We had just remodeling our house when we got a puppy. I lost a new comforter and a specially made quilt in one room, two new pillows in another and some chewed up table legs and rocker. She also ate her bed! They do outgrow this though. Unfortunately, we lost "Shelly" to a hit and run while my son was in the hospital. I do plan to get another one some day.
No hot dogs either! Nope.
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