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Posted By: just a guess on 2009-02-08
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How on earth did you get custody of your deceased ex's cremated remains? Did you divorce him after he died? LOL
Comparison very much valid. Having seen & followed
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The others do have valid points, but...sm
things like this happen to me and I am most annoyed about the lack of consideration. It bothers me to spend time looking for an item to use only to find out it was lent out. My brother once let his friend use my lawnmower, without telling me. I ended up borrowing my neighbor's mower because the lawn was getting overgrown. It took 3 weeks to get mine back. I think it is reasonable to be asked first, especially if it is something of sentimental value, something that needs extra careful handling, or something that is actually used frequently like kitchen implements/pots/pans...and lawnmowers, of course. : )
valid point there.. (sm)
She could go about it one of two ways, depending on what she felt more comfortable with.
1) Allow ex- to violate his restraining order by picking up his stuff from the garage without needing to come in the house, knock on the door, whatever, but still in violation because he's probably not allowed on the property at all. Anyway, this would allow him to come by while she's out and get his stuff WITHOUT him need to get in the house at all.
2) Require that he bring a sheriff along with him to collect his things from the garage. This would keep him in compliance with the restraining order and allow her to keep the garage locked. That would also prevent him from trying to say that his stuff was stolen because of her leaving the garage unlocked.
So yes, you're right. (Don't tell my husband that I just admitted to being wrong... I'd never live it down!) LOL!
Homeschooling is a valid option. Please
feel free to email me personally if you would like any info on homeschooling. I have homeschooled all of my kids after a horrible experience in public schools with my oldest. I don't want to really discuss it here, though, as it is a topic that invites much flaming, and I have no interest in debating it. It works, and we love it. I just checked stats, and according to the US Dept of Education, in 2003 there were 1.1 million kids homeschooled in America. That number is suspected to easily have doubled by now, and new results are due out. My kids are in high school, a fully nationally accredited course, and are very happy kids. Oldest is college bound and also a very happy MT. Sorry for your struggles, but am glad you are challenging the system. Our kids are priceless and deserve more.
you make a valid point..sm
however, it is a socio-economic situation you are describing, not one where he was taught anti-american propaganda in his school years and using that as an excuse for doing what he did. Besides, there are MANY MANY other foreign families who have come to America, not just Korean, and have been in the same types of situations as this young man was, what with no real friends, no support system, etc. and THEY didn't go ballistic and kill people because of it. Perhaps his life at home with his own family may have contributed to him being the way he was, but I don't think there is any one set answer for things like these happening. No one really knows what was going on in that kids head or why he did this and unfortunately, I don't think we will ever really know the answer to that, but I still don't think it happened just because he was Korean. There are mass murderers everywhere, of all different nationalities, who commit horrible atrocious acts, but it isn't because of their nationalities or where they came from that caused it...at least that is just my opinion.
Yes, but is that a valid reason for not washing your hands after you
Maybe you were just making a statement and if that's all it was, please excuse the question. Personally, I use the papertowel that I dried with and open the bathroom door when I leave. I also keep hand sanitizing gel with me at all times.
because I still have a right to bring up a valid point of stupidity
I'm not going to ignore something so BLATANTLY disgusting, that's why I posted below.
I still am allowed to have an opinion and I'm certainly not going to keep my mouth shut when that needs to be said
Tell me the variety of reasons that tomorrow is about other than, politics and... RACE?
Ms. Valenti makes one valid point although not the one she
We should not treat males and females differently when it comes to behaving immorally. Valenti has written about this fairly extensively (e.g., 'He's a Stud, She's a Slut?'). Of course, she's not arguing that both the male and female should be reproached for immorality, but rather than the slut should be treated (celebrated?) as nonjudgmentally as the stud seems to be. In other words, she is arguing for the lowest common denominator, not the highest.
Let the slut celebration begin.
you have a valid point here, one has always to consider side effects of meds..nm
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Just had a discussion about
You know so many kids are spoiled... literally. They expect all these high dollar items and when they get out in the real world they don't have a clue how to cope without these and don't realize that they need to WORK, that things don't just come to them. My mother questioned me last week because I mentioned my son (12) has been saving his money to buy a computer. I also told him he will have to pay a friend of ours to install the computer so he can get all the parental things setup. I want him to start getting a taste of what it's like to pay for his own things. He will respect it more. Don't get me wrong... he got a Wii system for Christmas and he does have a cell phone which is a very basic phone, doesn't have all the extras on it, and I have explained to him when he gets out of the house that will be his responsibility to pay for. He does extra things around the house for me to help pay that monthly bill too. It's just a shame that not more kids are actually expected to work a bit for what they have. My kids don't get an allowance either. I figure this is their home too. We ALL pitch in. No one pays me to clean. LOL.
I try to teach my children that Christmas is about GIVING, not receiving. We gave some money to a couple families in our church anonymously around Thanksgiving so they could buy a little extra for their families for Christmas. Our children are aware we did this and also are aware that we keep this to ourselves. I want them to realize there are too many people who are trying hard just to live day to day and go without a lot of things because of financial situations. Our family has been blessed in big ways (we are not loaded but we have our jobs, we have our health, and we have loads of love)and I want our family to share with others.
If I were, we would not be having this discussion. I
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My mom and I have this discussion often.
They live at a 62-over apartment facility and always talk about the people who have kids but never see them and how bad they feel for those parents, and how thoughtless those children are.
One never knows what goes on behind closed doors. You don't know how those kids were treated growing up. Not every parent deserves to be taken care of by their children. I have friends that have left home at 18 and never looked back. Just because the old folks look sweet doesn't mean they were good parents.
Do a search on this here - big discussion:-)
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Have you thought about having a serious discussion?
Seriously - marriage is all about conversation and discussion and communication - do it now and teach your kids - you can agree to disagree even!! Just because one wants another child and another one does not should not mean you automatically do it or don't do it - but you need to discuss and move on.
You are funny. Maybe this discussion
will help:
http://www.ubcbotanicalgarden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15898
You could always give it away if the stress is too much, LOL.
I don't do inside plants either.
BTW, we did have a discussion with the youth about
what they thought he!! would be like. My hubby and I also included our pastor just in case they had questions we didn't feel qualified to answer. Boy did we ever get some wonderful answers. I myself always imagine fire and unbearable heat. One suggested being all alone in a small dark place for eternity. One suggested that if you had an intense fear, for example spiders, you would spend eternity in a room full of them with them crawling all over your body. I think God wants us to use our imagination when we think of different things, after all he gave us the imagination to use.
Actually I am new to this discussion and I admire
you for sticking it out with your kids. There is a lot of discussion about staying or leaving when you have kids - if the fighting gets to be too much, etc., maybe you should get out - but I think the kids deserve the best you can give them - and at this point that is the two of you together. I split with mine for 9 months 15 years ago - had 4 kids at the time - 2 were his - my girls have never gotten over the fact I left Dad for a while - but it made us a stronger family unit - and I am so glad I did leave shortly and more happy that I came back. Best of luck to you!!
Here's a whole discussion of people
battling mice and rats, with some ideas.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/ipm/msg0118535629276.html
Discussion has been moved..thx (nm)
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You are CRAZY. end of discussion, you are in your own....nm
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Missed a lot of the discussion apparently - sm
What I don't understand is where you get that all unwed mothers are drug addicts or alcoholics.
That is not true at all. Sure, it happens to some but for you to lump unwed mothers into that category is terrible.
You don't know my personal circumstances. I don't know yours.
I'm just saying that I would like to help others that are in the same situation I was in way back when. Hopefully I would be able to help them so they don't have the struggles that I had.
Thankfully, my child and I were never homeless but I worked my tail off to make sure that didn't happen. I sometimes worked 2-3 jobs.
I also worked my way through school. I didn't get hand outs, didn't expect them either but it really would have been wonderful if someone was there to guide me to the things that I needed to do. Maybe it wouldn't have taken me so long to get to where I needed to be.
Absolutely nothing is free in this world and that would not be the point.
However, this is a dream we are talking about right? This isn't about socioeconomic dysfunction. It's about someone wanting to help someone else.
Update after discussion with hubby...sm
Don't worry clhmt... he has a "brainless" job - seriously but makes decent money doing it. (smile)
I did talk with him about it when he checked in on his lunch break and he's going to talk with his daughter about the note this evening. He's concerned about the "in and out" part as well but isn't convinced she has a problem because she has written negative notes to herself like this before... which in the past I've told him isn't normal and are cries for help but this is the worst one that has been found to date. I've pulled some info from the internet about bulemic patterns in teenagers to show him so hopefully he'll realize that I'm not just blowing smoke when I tell him that I'm concerned that she is bulemic. I just hope that he realizes that she has a problem and agrees to get her help, even if I just get him to agree to take her to a psychologist to discuss whether or not she has a problem.
Please take this discussion to the Christianity board.
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I remember that big long discussion
It went on for quite awhile. I still don't think it's a good idea considering how short of a time it's been around. I remember reading an old old ad on the internet about DES and it showed a smiling baby and said something about using it for every pregnancy. We all know how well that turned out. I hope PA doesn't make it mandatory either, because I will also have to fight it.
Since on this discussion another thing I tell them to put down for weight is
too much.
Bringing Lost discussion up to top of board (major spoiler alert)
Okay, all you "Lost" fanatics, what are your theories now, and how have they changed? Who or what is Jacob? How did the "original inhabitants" of the island get there? They are mostly Caucasians with American accents, with a few exceptions. They don't look like the usual types of people who are native inhabitants of Polynesian islands - if, indeed, that is where the island is.
Why were Jack and Juliet keeping secrets from the rest of the group? If they had been honest and up front from the beginning about Juliet, maybe they could have all figured out a way to foil Ben's plans without bloodshed.
And will the island heal Locke? Obviously he is of major importance - I don't think Ben heard Jacob at all, and he was jealous and afraid when he realized Locke heard him. That's why he shot him. Ben is turning out to be an even bigger weasel than before.
And what exactly was the Dharma Initiative studying? Does Ben really know? After all, he was only a "work man" like his father.
For every answer, there are a dozen new questions - at least! 
Heads up! The Gab board is for general discussion not to include MT, Religion, or Politics.
This was put into place when we very first set up the Gab board. We have a Christianity, Conservatives, and Liberals forum that you can post on. But, let me be clear. I do not condone trashing of anyone's religious preference and neither should you. I expect posts on any of these forums to be respectful (that does NOT mean we are censoring, there IS a difference). This is NOT open for debate. These are the rules. If you can't respect them, you don't need to post here.
Okay, a bit off topic but here goes
So many women talk about the bonding that happens when you breast feed that does not happen if you don't. Now it seem to be okay to let someone else breastfeed your child if for some reason you can't. Where does the bonding come in? Who is the child bonding with? For me I breast fed the first child but did not the second. Who am I closer to? Couldn't tell you!
A little off topic, but
I was out to lunch one day with my DH and on my way home I came upon a crash that had just happened at an intersection...one of the drivers was a young girl (she happened to go to the same HS as my DD). The other driver was a 30-something mother of 2 or 3. The young girl had run a red light and T-boned the other car. The mother was instantly killed in the crash, with 2 of her children in the car with her. When the teen girl got out of her car...yep, she was on the phone...! And obviously she was not calling 911! So sad...my DD said this girl went off the wall after this accident.
Not a funny topic at all.
I agree, i hadn't been reading all the posts (although i did now) and i think that it isn't a funny topic at all. My son is 6 and by this age they have discovered what their private parts are and they get aroused and i just think it's sick. Have you ever heard of Oedipus complexes? It's where the children become attracted to their parent! This can happen and it's not healthy and i just think (VERY PERSONAL OPINION AND NOTHING MORE!) that you're putting your child at the risk of developing some sort of issues. I 100% agree with Breastfeeding, i did for a little over a year. But at some point you have to disattach yourself from your child and let them grow up on their own in some areas and by treating them like a baby does not help them mature and go out on their own any. This was my 2 cents as well and nothing more, i just found it disturbing.
This is very interesting on this topic
http://www.jugglezine.com/CDA/juggle/0,1516,30,00.html
ongoing topic
I live in Florida and this is an ongoing topic on forums of local newspapers. We have a large Hispanic population here and while many of them speak English, many of them do not. If you go to Wal-Mart here, all of the signs are in English and Spanish. Many of the food products are in both languages. I actually know a couple through a family member who moved here from Cuba, must have been 35 years ago now, when Castro took their farm. The wife speaks virtually no English. She worked for Disney in housekeeping or something and retired from there. Even Disney didn't seem to care if their staff learns English.
I worked at a bank prior to becoming an MT. I had about 4 bilingual coworkers and we needed them. We had numerous customers who came in to cash checks or even had accounts there and didn't speak any English. I taught myself enough Spanish independently on the Internet and through books to be able to serve their needs. Now let me ask you, if I can manage that why can't they?
I don't think it's being racist or having a bad day. We all have to listen to ESL doctors who are practically incomprehensible. I wonder sometimes how in the world they passed the equivalency exams. I also know as doctors they can certainly afford a few diction classes but they don't bother. Meanwhile, we can't understand them, I don't know how their colleagues understand them, nurses probably have a hard time understanding them and many of these doctors are administering to elderly patients who don't hear as well. God only knows how they understand them.
English is the accepted universal language in the business world which is why people in other countries learn English. If you are going to do business in a predominantly English-speaking country then learn the language.
Good topic...
I am making my shopping list around coupons, buying more store brand items, cooking at home a lot more, and just generally hanging out at the house on the weekends cause we can't afford to do anything else. I cringe when I have to go somewhere in my car cause I don't wanna burn my gas. Thank goodness I can work at home, my son rides the bus to school, and my daughter drives but it's only less than a mile away.
Good topic- sm
In my lifetime I have had a Pembroke Welsh Corgi (best cow dog EVER), purebred ChowChow (real sweetie) two giant mutts (brothers), they were some kind of lab/shepherd mix. Both of them were with us for almost 17 years.
Also had an Irish Setter and this dog was a nut.
When my son was very small and we lived out in the country, he would todder down our long driveway. The dog would follow him and keep a watchful eye.
If the dog thought my son was getting too far from the house, he would gently knock him over and bark at us.
Pretty soon, baby boy would get up and head further down the driveway. After a few feet, the dog would again knock him over and bark at us.
This would go on a few more times until finally the dog would knock him over and just lay on top of my son and start howling like crazy... "COME GET THE KID!"
We had it on video but I don't know what ever happened to it.
That is a topic to just get me going today.
Ex-Idiot#1:
He got remarried to Satan's daughter (actually she is 12 years older, she might be Satan's sister). She beat my children and he allowed it so they deserve eachother.
Ex-Idiot#2:
He used to beat me. He took my son from me at 5 months old to travel the country in an 18-wheeler so that I couldn't find him. I did find him and got him back. Now he remarried. Thing is, the woman grew a brain cell. She booted him with nothing. He deserved what he got for what he has done to so many women over the years. I haven't heard from him in years, which is probably a good thing.
I told Satan's daughter to say hello for me when she visits Idiot#2 at her "brother's house".
Let's get back on topic, please.
This isn't a discussion about statistics.
Ahh a tricky topic...let me tell you the one about.....
Hex nut in the urethra man. Yeppir, AND he was a repeat offender, having been brought in for numerous urethral extractions..... his hex nut being his best.
Then there was toothbrush swallowing guy. (really!) You would think the curve of the toothbrush would prohibit swallowing. This guy was also a repeat offender. Lightbulbs, toothbrushes, razor blades, whatever ya got!
I love these guys. 
Off topic - mac and cheese
I must be living under a rock, but I was watching the Food Network, and they were talking about restaurants that serve mac and cheese pizza. I might have to try it, it sounded pretty good, but I can't think of anything more fattening - unless you add bacon to it.
Topic of conversation here lately
I was talking about the wages being offered now for MTers and no raises, pay going down and the like just the other night. I said pretty soon looks like the MTSOs will be charging just to have the people working. I am so very glad that most of my working in years past because like the previous person said, I also did around 60,000 years ago and now more in the 20,000. My husband said this can only happen if MTers allowed it to happen. I am not caught up in this hot mess like I would have been years ago but I understand what it is like to try to raise a family and yet the money might not be there. I don’t know what it will take but the workers here 1 day will have to do something about how this profession is heading
On the topic of consumer reviews :)
I generally have had very little luck finding a really comfortable bra. I am big busted and use underwires (yuck). Anybody care to share what their favorite brand of bra is as far as comfort for us more well-endowed women?
coming in late on this topic
I'm the grandma who has custody of grandchild. My custody papers allow 2 visits a months with the parents and more "as agreed to by both parties," but all are supervised and no overnight visits. I will not allow either parent into my home, so we were meeting at a fast food place with an indoor playground.
Because of suspected (and now admitted) drug use, I suspended visits until a clean drug test could be produced. In a few weeks, it will be a year. I talked to my lawyer about this before I suspended visits. I could not withhold visits due to failure to pay CS. I could be held in contempt of court and go to jail. However, since no judge is going to say it's okay for a parent on drugs to visit with the child, that is a different matter. In only 6 months, the parents are behind by $6k...I'll never see any of it.
My attorney told me the only way to withhold visits is if there is a situation that would place the child at risk - child abuse, parental drug abuse, sexual abuse, etc., otherwise you have to follow the court order or go back to court and ask the judge to revise the order with documentation of the reason for the request.
The noncustodial party can always go to court and ask for a revision of vistation as well to get more liberal visits.
OK. This is weird and maybe should be under the Confessions topic.
But I love the Godfather. I mean, I really LOVE that movie and Godfather II. I've watched those two movies a zillion times, director's cut, saga, DVD extras, you name it. (Not so fond of part III.) I'm not sure why I love it so much. Maybe my upbringing? I wasn't raised by mobsters, but I was surely raised in an Italian household. (I don't need the subtitles to know what's being said in Sicilian/Italian.) I like the complex theme, seeing Michael Corleone go from a righteous good guy to a powerful mob boss, twisting the admirable quality of protecting family into the distorted mess that brings him to his ultimate realization of his own guilt.
When I have I have the time, I get out some nice primitivo, some good cheese, lovely chewy bread and roasted peppers and watch those movies.
I wanted more info as well on this topic (sm)
so I Googled "delawing pros and cons" and then also tried "declawing video". I must say, after looking at both sides and hearing about postop complications, if I were in your shoes I would find an alternative to it, especially if its an older cat. Apparently the practice has been banned in California. Very enlightening stuff out there on the net about it.
This is a hard topic for me - I see both sides (sm)
I have had prayers answered, but I have seen such suffering too and I know those people have cried out for help. You can always ask, but you never know if it is going to be God's will to solve the problem for you or not. I don't see how you can have blind faith that your problem will be solved when not all problems that are prayed about are solved.
hey gourdpainter, i know this is off the topic of your post but
i think gourds and painting them are so cool. My husband has a big garden, and he usually plants some gourds. The only thing I've done with them is let them dry and keep them around for a while. It would be so cool to be able to paint them if I had the time and talent.
A twist off topic, but that's the opposite of my MIL
She wouldn't return anything, and expects no one else to, EVER. She cuts all the tags off and then claims to have forgotten where she bought things. She has even gone so far as to cut the size tags out of gifts. She once whispered to my husband, "I had to buy her an extra large, so I cut the tag out. I didn't want to embarrass her." That was for a robe she bought me when I was pregnant. Believe me, I knew what size I was! I hate to have her spend money that goes to waste on things that just don't fit, for example. Those could be simple returns, but she won't give gift receipts or even say which store she bought the gift at. I've given up. I appreciate the thought of the gift, but if something doesn't fit, I just donate it to the next clothing drive that passes by. Someone will use it.
Relationships - new type of topic
I'm reading through all the posts below (where did you meet your spouse, what was your first meal, etc). I'm wondering how many of you out there would be perfectly happy living by yourself. I absolutely hate those dating commercials (eharmony, etc). Why does society try to make us feel that we have to have that "someone special" in our lives or we are nothing. A lot of times that "someone special" turns out to be "nobody special" but you don't find that out until your married and its too late. HA HA
I have always believed that before planning your life with someone you should first be true to yourself. Get to know yourself. What is is you want out of life. Can you achieve that goal on your own. I always have felt I did not enter with world with a man attached to my side and I won't be leaving this world with one attached to my side either. I'm am me, I'm a whole person. I have interests, thoughts, and beliefs, that are not always the same as my "other halfs". I am married right now, but to tell the truth I would be perfectly happy living on my own also. I've got lots of family and friends to do activities with, so there is not an issue of ever being lonely. You can be alone without being lonely.
Just wonder how many people are so attached to their spouse they feel life would not be worth anything if they were without them and if so why.
it was about her shoes - not a political topic
I would just ignore it. Started off about fashion. You can't control what people are going to write about a certain topic. Sometimes the two can blend together. Since we're not talking bout the O I would just ignore it and write another post about something else.
Travel Agent... off original topic
Always looking for a new career away from MT...Since your DH is travel agent, would you recommend it? Can you make a good living at it? How to get started? Have thought of this in the past, but never really knew how to go about it. My DH and I love to travel and he will be retired in a few years, so a career change may do us both good. Thanks for any info. 
Dr. Phil DID cover this very topic a few months ago...
and there was a guy who supposedly went to Africa and needed all this money to eat, get out of prison, get home to see this woman he was chatting with and told he loved so much. She fell for the whole thing until Dr. Phil exposed the whole story on his show and had other women there who had also fallen for this guy and sent him money. I don't know if you can get a DVD of the show or not, but it might be worth it to try.
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