PitBull's are misunderstood...
Posted By: Cindy on 2008-11-09
In Reply to: reasoning - Forever Pitbull Owner
Instead of focusing narrowly on only your dislike of PitBulls, why don't you look at the bigger picture as a whole...
First of all, the statistics on "fatal attacks"...well it doesn't take a genius to realize that a big strong dog like a PitBull or a Rottweiler is going to do a heck of a lot more damage if it bites you then, for example, a Beagle or Chihuahua would. But that still doesn't mean PitBulls are more likely to bite...
The statistics that I have read regarding breed specific likelyhood of biting have shown that small dogs (and mixbreeds) are way more likely to be aggressive towards humans and other dogs. Specifically Dachshunds, Chihuahuas, and Jack Russell Terriers to name a few. PitBulls were more likely to show aggression to unfamiliar dogs. I've seen this info a few times, but the most recent website I found it on was here:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T48-4SNGRDR-2&_user=10&_coverDate=06%2F03%2F2008&_alid=765300851&_rdoc=2&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_cdi=4968&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_ct=27&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=a9e7d67a2a45dc01019b232cbbfa3bf5
Here are some other good points from websites that are unbiased:
To reduce the number of dog bite-related injuries, adults and children should be educated about bite prevention, and persons with canine pets should practice responsible pet ownership. (CDC website)
“While at times informative, statistics on fatal dog attacks can also be misleading. For example, a number of cases where a Pit Bull, Rottweiler or German Shepherd Dog were counted as causing a human fatality, in reality the direct result was from gross human negligence or criminal intent”. (http://www.thedogpress.com/Columns/Jade/07_Dog.Bite.Stats_09.htm)
"A fatal dog attack is not just a dog bite by a big or aggressive dog. It is usually a perfect storm of bad human-canine interactions -- the wrong dog, the wrong background, the wrong history in the hands of the wrong person in the wrong environmental situation." (Malcolm Gladwell, "Troublemakers - What pit bulls can teach us about profiling," The New Yorker, Feb. 6, 2006.)
www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/breedlaws.html
Our Country was not founded on the restriction and punishment of the masses based on the actions of a few.
Focusing legislation on dogs that are "vicious" distracts attention from the real problem, which is irresponsible owners.
These very breeds as a whole have proven their stability and good canine citizenry by becoming 'Search & Rescue' dogs, Therapy dogs working inside hospitals, professional Herding dogs and family companions for years.
Banning the so-called dangerous breed will merely hasten the upswing in popularity of some other breed that will be used for vicious attacks on people and other animals.
There is no valid reason to deprive animal lovers of their well behaved pets.
The reports and statistics are flawed. Among other things, a dog bite victim is usually unable to identify the breed of dog that bit him or her. Therefore, victims will name the type of dog that currently is on people's minds as being the dangerous dog.
(From the Animal Farm Foundation.)
One more thing, the best K-9 drug searching dog in America is a PitBull...his name is "Popsicle" because he was rescued from a man who tried to kill him by putting him in a freezer.
-Cindy, owner of 1 PitBull (Zeus) and 2 Beagles (Max & Osiris)...and yes they do get along! 
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If you want to see a pic of my pitbull...sm
and my beagle (who are best friends) then look up at the top where it says "I did want to show you my mom's five dogs" and one of the post underneath it says "this is my babies" and there is a pic of CJ the pit and Darla the beagle. He thinks she is the cat's meow.
I could not own a pitbull because...
my husband is in the Navy and we move a lot; therefore, we end up renting houses a lot and nobody's insurance would allow it. While I am not convinced that they are all mean, I do think that they require a little more vigilance than other dogs, purely because of perception.
I don't have a pitbull personally
But I do know that they can be well-tempered. A lot of the time, the problem is having more than one. Dogs have a pack mentality and if one decides to bite, it sets the others off and they tend to join in and things escalate.
That is such a terrible, sad story. What a horrible way to go.
pitbull statistics
The statistics which appear to show a high rate of attacks due to alleged “pit bull-type dogs” are full of inaccuracy simply because any dog that can pass for a “pit bull” will be called a “pit bull” by the media.
And yes, American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, and Staffordshire Bull Terriers are often referred to by the slang term “pit bull,” but were these the actual breeds responsible for the attacks? Probably not since a slew of other breeds of dog — like Presa Canarios, Cane Corsos, Spanish Alanos, Rhodesian Ridgebacks, Bandogs, Dogues Brasileiros, Dogo Argentino, Guatemalan Bull Terriers, American Bulldogs, Boxers, Bull Mastiffs, Bull Terriers, English Bulldogs, and even Labradors, Rottweilers, Akitas, and Chow Chows — have also been labeled “pit bulls.” Statistics are inaccurate because they are not based on “reliable breed-specific population data”
Still, it is a testament to the quality of the breed that even though many are unsocialized, tortured, and otherwise ill-used, very few are human-aggressive. I hesitate even to include abuse as a factor since even when they are abused most bullies are incredibly friendly and loving towards humans. You can thank over a hundred years of proper breeding for this trait.
There is no scientific evidence that one breed of dog is more vicious than another.
Pitbull Attack!?!?
This is a newspaper clipping from an attack that happened locally. When you read it you think to yourself "Oh my gosh! another pitbull attack" and it sounds like it is the dog's fault right? It is pretty convincing. THIS is what the public reads. What you DON'T KNOW is that the owner of this dog was training this dog to be mean, yes even with him having kids he was training the dog to be mean. And you ask how do I know this? It's because I was at the vet's office when they brought this dog in & this wasn't the first time they had a problem with this owner training dogs to be mean, and this was out of the vet's mouth himself. So because of this owner's training that he wouldn't admit to doing sadly there was a dog attack as a result and the dog had to be put down, but yet everybody will go on thinking "oh another vicious pitbull".
Pitbull Hero
Stray Pit Bull Saves Woman, Child from Attacker
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A dog came out of nowhere and stopped a knife-wielding robber from accosting a mother and her young son on Monday afternoon. (Pet Pulse Illustration by Tim Mattson)
PORT CHARLOTTE, Fla. -- The wandering 65-pound Pit Bull mix might have seemed menacing to some passerby, but one woman will always remember him as her "guardian angel."
The dog, which authorities think is lost and not a stray, successfully thwarted a robbery attack on a mother and her 2-year-old son, who were held at knifepoint Monday afternoon.
The Florida woman, who has been identified by authorities simply as "Angela," was leaving a playground with her toddler son in Port Charlotte when a man approached her in the parking lot with a knife and told her not to make any noise or sudden movements.
Angela didn't have to do either to protect herself and her child -- a dog mysteriously ran to the scene and charged the man, who quickly fled.
"I don't think the dog physically attacked the man, but he went at him and was showing signs of aggression, just baring his teeth and growling and barking. It was clear he was trying to defend this woman," Animal Control Lt. Brian Jones told Pet Pulse.
"I don't know what this man's intentions were, but it is very possible this dog saved her life."
The exceptional part of the story, Jones said, is that the dog had never met or even seen the people it quickly jumped to defend.
"You hear about family dogs protecting their owners, but this dog had nothing to do with this woman or her kid," Jones said. "He was like her guardian angel."
After the alleged thief ran away, Angela quickly placed her son, Jordan, in the car and tried to drive off. Before she could, though, the dog jumped into her backseat, waiting with her for the police and animal control officers to arrive at the scene.
The dog was transported to a local shelter and if his owners don't step forward within five days, Jones said, Angela and her family plan to adopt the savior she named "Angel."
Animal control officers and shelter workers believe Angel is lost, and not a stray, because of his good health, sturdy weight and mild temperament.
"It's funny, that someone's irresponsibility could have saved someone's life," Jones said of Angel's possible owners.
For Angela, it doesn't matter where the dog came from, just that he was there when she needed him most.
"I don't know what his [the thief's] intentions were -- I don't know why he did it, but I'm glad that -- we call him Angel -- I'm glad that Angel showed up because I don't know what would have happened," Angela told NBC2 News.
For a small town with a population of 46,452, animal control officers were kept busy Monday afternoon. Jones says they department also responded to a report about a boa constrictor in a church parking lot.
The snake found its way into a car engine and was able to be removed without being harmed. It took three people to move the massive, seemingly random placed snake.
"It's funny, because we aren't a big place," he said of the Gulf Coast town. "And we can go for four or five months without the media contacting us about a story. It's been a busy week."
Officers from the responding county sheriff's office canvased the area and were unable to locate the suspect described as being in his 20s, tall and dark haired.
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I think you misunderstood
I am not saying SSRIs are not appropriate for some people, but they are over-prescribed and being used as a "catch-all" and there are more and more psychiatrists who are concerned about this. Family docs are also being pushed to prescribe them by insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies and honest ones will tell you that. If prescribed to bipolar people (30% of all people who see their family doctor for depression) they often will trigger hypomania and family doctors are not trained to identify it. They only help anxiety disorders 50% of the time, which leaves half of those who go for treatment without relief. Of course, SSRIs have their place, but too many diagnoses are getting glumped as anxiety/depression with SSRIs the fix-all.
In no way was I judging your condition or anyone's need for SSRIs, when appropriate.
I speak from not my opinion, but from an extensive psych background.
no, you misunderstood..I DO run my air...sm
but I turn it off to open up windows daily.....and when I turn the a/c back on....I still leave a window open in the bedrooms about 6-8 inches - so the stale air gets sucked out....*laughs*
Oh, I have to live with A/C but not 24/7/365.........and I prefer to open a window and *listen*.......it's a learning experience unto itself and one can *hear* things indicative of what I think are global warming changes.
I love South Florida mornings, always have....before the people hit the streets and before the traffic commences....before the world wakes up and becomes self-consumed in this big city.....
That's just me.......
Sorry if I misunderstood...sm
Okay, we're back to what I mentioned in my first couple of responses, except for one "physical" aspect re lubrication. This probably sounds perfectly idiotic, but a lot of people don't think about it, which is to make sure you're well hydrated. A good test is if your mouth frequently seems dry. Incidentally, dehydration is solved with water, not soft drinks, etc.
Also, douching can wreak havoc with vaginal moisture because the vagina "thinks" it's moist enough and stops producing its own.
Stress can also play a factor, and of course hormonal imbalances. Breast-feeding can also be involved, although it doesn't sound like a factor here.
Hope these might give you some ideas in that department, anyway.
for blondie and forever pitbull owner
I thought you might like to read the below story.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/27704926?GT1=43001
I'm sorry I misunderstood. I thought you were
saying that over and over the vet didn't see him or work it up. Sorry - guess its late. Yes, one of my dogs went thru seizures, though the grand mal-type, and it was so horrible. I just absolutely went nuts with fear and horror when she would have them, but would just hold her and try to reassure her. I am with you - I would still be very worried and probably want a second look. I am not overly familiar with cocker spaniels, but seem to remember something dimly that maybe they are rather prone to seizures? My father-in-law had a tiny breed - can't remember either, but he had several thru his life, and nearly all had seizures. -- They -- say that the dogs aren't really in distress, so maybe that makes it better for us humans to think, right? Good luck and keep us posted.
You misunderstood my post...
If it were me, I'd explain to my son that we/he should return the prize to the office and give another kid a chance to win it. Making a profit, be it you or your son, is in my opinion, just wrong. This is an excellent opportunity to teach your son to share his good fortune...of course, this is how I'd handle the situation...to each her own I guess.
I think you misunderstood her post
She said have you ever done without AS a child? not done without a child. I think the point she's trying to make is that these children need to be taken care of regardless of the mother's actions that brought them into this world. I'm sure you would agree that no child should ever do without the basic necessities of life.
Now how you go about obtaining these necessities is where some might disagree. Should the state step in and abort the mother's custodial rights, placing these children into the foster care system? Or should the mother be given ample means to provide for the children? This is where the disagreement is. No one is arguing that these children shouldn't be taken care of. Unfortunately, I don't think the mother is going to lose her parental rights, and I do think that she will gain monetarily from these babies and not use it for their well-being, but rather her own selfish needs. She has already proven how selfish she is.
Close friend has dog which is half pitbull. She is very gentle, but
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I guess I misunderstood the first post..sm
wow. this does not sound good. If sounds like they are looking to liquidate what ever assets you do have then, which would really suck. this part, I know nothing about, so I cannot really comment. I know that when I filed bankruptcy against an old student loan I had outstanding for 10 years, it did go on my husband's credit, as well, simply because we were married. It was one of the worst moves we ever made, even though it was against me personally, it affected both of our credit when it came to wanting to purchase a house, a vehicle, or anything on credit. It lasted for over 10 years, and I had to have it removed from all three credit reporting agencies, as removing it from only one does not remove it from all. I understand the interest rates though, which was the reason why I stopped trying to pay back my student loan. It was 98 percent interest on a 5000.00 loan. They were trying to force me to get the money from some other lending institution, parents, friends, anything, just so they got their money and I had a somewhat lower interest rate. It did not work that way though, because with the bankruptcy against me, I could not get a loan anywhere else either. It was a vicious circle. I got rid of my husband, who was draining every last cent we had on useless stuff he wanted, and I am financially solvent again, making a good annual income and debt free! It is a great feeling, and I no longer have any credit cards. I still wish you luck, but it sure does not sound good.
Oops think you misunderstood my post
Im actually talking bout the owner of the company that sends the contractors, not the landlords husband and wife. The landlords are very upset as well. The pool is an above ground that we purchased, so yes it is our property, so is the water they use out of the faucets because we pay the water bill and we also pay to have our landscaping done, so we have to pick up the trash and the cig butts. Hopefully this will be over soon. I think I really just have to clean up their mess and just not stress! Recently, we had some people over a few times that let their children have the run of our home. I went to the store to get some more hamburg for the grill and came back to find their children 5, 7 had been in our bedroom when our door was closed. The husbands were outside of course! LOL They also broke things in our yard, our other children's toys, smashed jellybeans into our carpets, snuck drinks upstairs spilling on our white carpets and not telling...so basically, my husband said last night that I should relate this situation to that one and realize these people have no manners or class, clean up after them and let it go. I think this was well said! Thanks for listening to me vent again!!!
I dont think I misunderstood your post at all??
I have been to both black and white funerals- my husband is black- I know what I observe in both sides-I know playing music, dancing, card playing, etc. is not what I have seen on my side. I never misunderstood your post- I could have never celebrated the death of my grandmother, never. Different people do things differently.
Oh, sorry, misunderstood. Listed under social hx, no mention of a health concern. (NM)
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