Phil Spector murder trial. Anyone
Posted By: ss on 2007-05-01
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been watching that on Court TV? Don't you think Phil Spector, with his "new hair do", looks like Pee Wee Herman???? LOL.
They have been off for the past 2 days due to one of the defense lawyers having to go to the hospital. Kind of interesting to watch trials on T.V.
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Phil Spector did an album many moons ago with SM
the Ronettes, Shirelles and others, in that great Phil Spector way, which is my favorite. All good songs, Frosty the Snowman, Winter Wonderland. Makes me feel happy.
Yes, I know Phil is nuts, but the album (cd) is great.
Yes, could be murder.
I said these same things to my husband this evening. I thought it odd that her now husband supposedly called the ET show and stated he was worried about Anna because she had a fever. They have money -- why not call a doctor instead of a TV show? Was he setting the stage? There are so many things that could have happened.
Am I the only one that thinks this could be murder?
When her son died, Anna's mother went on TV and said that she thought he was murdered and said that she thought Anna was in danger. Now Anna is dead.
There are a lot of people who are now going to profit now that both of them are dead. The old billionaire's family now has a pretty good chance of keeping their money. So the billionaire's family could have paid to have them both killed. At the very least, they are saving millions in attorney fees.
If she does still have a claim to that money, her infant now is the sole heir to that, and the remaining parent stands to also get a huge part of that. Her lawyer/husband now will inherit everything if he really is the father. So, he could have killed them both for profit.
Then, there is the ex-boyfriend who wants his kid. He could have killed her off to try to get his kid back and get a stake in the billionaire's fortune also.
And all of them had to know that since she always slurs her speech and has problems with drugs and alcohol, the public could easily buy that it was an accident or suicide.
If abortion is murder ...
How do you treat a woman who has had an abortion? Do you treat her differently from a woman who strangled her newborn? Or a woman who killed the neighbor lady because she wanted the neighbor man for her own?
...and after the trial?
What's your plan for moving upward and onward?
I wonder if you'd allow me to presume on some years of experience by asking you to really examine the core issue here, namely "I still love him".
I'm not saying you don't, but I wonder whether this is actually "partner-for-life" love which absolutely depends on a foundation of mutual respect, which I believe he has thoroughly destroyed.
There seem to be all kinds of feelings that women can have for men that they call "love", but they're not the kind of love that forms the basis for the intimacy on every level that life-partners need.
A woman can have motherly love for a misbehaving partner. A woman can love a false image of a partner. A woman can love what the partner used to be. A woman can love what she believes the partner could be. The list goes on.
When it comes to partner love, all of these others are really counterfeits and/or substitutes, and none of them provide a reason to stay together.
Over the years that I dealt with domestic disputes - and especially those that had a component of substance abuse - I never saw one of them that got better, and they usually deteriorated. That's why I hope you have a plan for moving onward and upward.
I'm pro-choice. Abortion is not murder. SM
Abortions are performed very early on in pregnancy. I'm afraid to say this, but basically, it is a lump of tissue. Women have to right to form their own opinion, but the idea a person is aborting a roly-poly fully formed baby is a crock. This is propaganda devised by right-winged fundamentalists, many of whom happen to be men.
I do believe in practicing safe sex, so abortion will not be needed. That is the ideal, but we are all only human.
No, I never had an abortion. I had my daughter at age 25, after being married 5 years. My daughter was married at 30 and had her first child at 31. We are both Pro Choice.
No - I did not watch the trial
start to finish, as I had to work. I lived in LA at that time. I think the timing of this was crucial - just after the Rodney King debacle. I think Johnnie Cochran was very charming and had that jury in the palm of his hands. I think the investigation was botched. I'm not an expert on the trial and it's true, I don't know everything about it, but just my opinion. Even if he didn't do it, who in the heck would write this kind of book - it's just distgustingly insensitive to the victim's family, who think he did do it and who were there from start to finish.
Oh, then I am sure you saw the wrong trial
because if you watched from start to finish as I did, I could never have convicted from what I saw. The papers and the trial were so far apart I could not believe it. One case in point - just about the glove- There was a piece of paper, receipt, that showed SOMETHING bought at the store in the accessory department, had no mention of a glove, a scarf, wallet- no numbers to match up and YET, it had his wife as buying a pair of gloves there- that put enough doubt in my mind but I am sure you did not see the same thing or you might have had doubts.
WHAT????? Not talking about the trial
some what now 13 years ago?? and so did I watch it. I am talking about what is happening today or what happened yesterday in Las Vegas. ME AND OTHERS CANNOT SEEM TO GET OVER WHAT A JURY DECIDES AND THEIR WORD IS FINAL??? NEVERMIND.
But why not a trial separation?
DH says he'll take me back if I don't like being separated. I didn't ask him that - he volunteered that. A sister got divorced and she's glad she did it. She remarried. I just want to date, not get married or live with a man at this point.
well he pardoned a serial rapist that went on to murder
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Rest easy. Aborting is not murder.
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Believe me,. if you stiill love him, go to the trial
what will send him to jail.
Do you never ask yourself 'Does he love me?'
The situation is so deteriorated that it is not anymore in your hand to solve it all alone, you need help.
He blames you for everything that went and is going wrong.
You need to wake up and so does he.
If you want to rescue the son and show and guide him what 'justice' is, testify. Only this can and will make you strong.
I am not sure but I have the feeling that you are afraid what he might do to you when he is released from prison? Get immediatley a restraining order.
OJ book and trial, innocent or guilty?
I saw the message about OJ and the book about whether or not he actually did the crime. What I would like to know from the MTers discussing this, did any of you watch the trial from start to finish? The newspapers, television shows, etc. most all the time fabricated parts leaning towards his part in this crime. I saw it all from start to finish, every single day and after that made my own decision regarding the guilt or innocence, not by what I read in the papers or heard on the news. The most important piece of "evidence" supposedly was the glove issue. The trial showed a receipt from a store from accessories. Never ever did they match a scanned number, price, date bought or whatever with the glove buying, but then again I guess most of you watched all the trial?
Perfume samples/trial sizes
I'd like to be able to buy some trial/samples of various perfumes. I've found a few random ones, even free ones, but I'd like to be able to try some of the expensive brands by just purchasing those small samples or trial sizes. So far I haven't found a very large selection of these websites and the ones I have found only had a few fragrances from which to choose. Anyone know where I can go to buy these for a decent price?
Thanks.
Look at this headline "Michigan Teens Murder, Dismember Sex Offender (sm)
This man was ambushed, murdered, beheaded and burned. The headline says these teens murdered a sex offender. Way down in the article it says that this man 9 years ago at age 17 had sex with a 14 year old. That was his offense. It does not say he raped her. While I agree he should not have had sex with a 14 year old, I think it is very unfair that after he suffered such a horrible death the headline reads that a sex offender was murdered. The article also says that his being a "sex offender" had nothing to do with why the boys murdered him, they just did it to do it. How sad that after his death, that is what they post about him!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071113/ap_on_re_us/burned_torso
How pompous! I'm a single mom and I didn't "breed" - I chose not to murder a baby. sm
yep, I'm a single mom and I'm proud of it. I was in a very stable long-term relationship and I ended up getting pregnant while on the pill. But I didn't "breed" as you put it. You breed cattle, not babies.
I like her far better than Phil.....nm
What would Dr. Phil say?
We teach people how to treat us, so stop telling people to treat you like a doormat. I know this can be very hard to change, but I did it myself a few years ago with my own situation. People were not happy at first, but guess what? They got over it and now I am treated the way I deserve. Life is too short for this stuff! Best of luck to you.
I think it is Dr. Phil who says
that use of sarcasm and lack of respect for ones spouse is the biggest risk factor for divorce.
It sounds like your husband thinks he is a lot smarter and busier than you are, so he's saying you are taking up too much of his time or take too long to say things that he already knows or aren't of any importance.
So he is definitely not your friend and he won't even pretend to respect you. He yells in anger. Your children are witnessing all of this.
(He'd fit right in at Dr. Phil's Man Camp).
Talk to your pastor or other counselor at church and ask them what to do. You need counseling to repair your self-esteem, and he definitely needs Christian counseling, because he is not treating you the way the Bible tells a man to treat his wife.
Punxatawney (?sp) Phil
didn't see his shadow - spring is just around the corner!    
I would think Dr. Phil & Oprah would have
covered these topics. They might even have that sort of information on their websites. Your mother might believe them over these men. Or undoubtedly Reader's Digest. If one of my parents were acting like this I'd seriously think they were getting something like Alzheimers, losing their good judgement.
I don't get to watch Dr. Phil much, but I did --sm
happen to see the same show you are talking about. It was VERY eye opening. I felt so bad for the woman who was involved with this scammer. It is much the same as women who get *involved* with men in prison. All these men want is money and they do not care who they get it from.
Even if the mom has no money, he does not care. His *anger* is just a ploy to make her feel guilty. I can guarantee that he has no son, he is not who he says he is, and he is probably in the middle east somewhere, as I do believe the man on Dr. Phil was in the middle east and tried to pass off his accent as from somewhere else. Please don't be too hard on your mom. She is vulnerable and *love smit*, but she needs to know the truth. Perhaps contact the Dr. Phil show and they may send a tape of that show, or he may have some personal advice for her. Good luck.
Any Dr. Phil fans out there?
He came to our town several weeks ago to help kick of the Toys for Tots campaign. Some of that will be featured on his show today.
You need Dr. Phil, not a bunch of MTs.
Your husband has big problems.
Have you been on Dr. Phil? I swear I saw this on his show.
Stand up for yourself. Stop caterting to this man. Give him a dose of his own medicine. Do for only you and your children, and I mean, cooking, cleaning, etc. And if your family likes him, so what, they dont have to live with him.
anybody looking forward to todays Dr. Phil???
cant wait, mine comes on in 1 hour...central time..
Dr. Phil would say to lock the door.
If they knock, you ask if their hair is on fire. If it's not, then you tell them it can wait.
He's actually talking about interruptions of something else, but I thought of his advice anyway.
No experience at all with this, just what I saw on a Dr. Phil one time -
He said when you can walk away knowing you have turned over every stone you could and feel that nothing else can be done and you have no regrets whatsoever, you are ready for a divorce.
Not the OP, but I can't stand Oprah or Dr. Phil and
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Dr. Phil had a segment on this yesterday sm
He had a segment how wrong it is to do this to your children. It was his first show he ever did. He said the mom is doing so much better since his show. He is bringing back some of his most favorite shows.
Dr. Phil DID cover this very topic a few months ago...
and there was a guy who supposedly went to Africa and needed all this money to eat, get out of prison, get home to see this woman he was chatting with and told he loved so much. She fell for the whole thing until Dr. Phil exposed the whole story on his show and had other women there who had also fallen for this guy and sent him money. I don't know if you can get a DVD of the show or not, but it might be worth it to try.
votefortheworst.com now is encouraging votes for Phil.
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Eek, can't stand Phil and his googly eyes.
Don't care for Phil or Oprah, never watch them. nm
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If it were me, I would go to Dr. Phil Mcgraw web site and email him. See what he would suggest.
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Agree with you, and what's up with Phil Stacey's eye brows? Creepy! nm
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By trial and error. Lots and LOTS of error!!! -nm
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