People on social security who pay no taxes

• stimulas package..?? Idea - Not Political
  • back around October - (sm)
  • Technical answer - sbMT
    • you should only get money back if you pay taxes.nm - anon
      • People on social security who pay no taxes - Danna
        • So how do you know they didn't pay taxes? - Backwards typist
          • I was simply answering the above post - Danna
      • I agree - sbMT
  • Here is the answer. - Not Political
    • Wondering - sm - mav
      • are we getting $$$ out of this? I thought it was - tax cuts and money for businesses
    • My thoughts are, is this taxable? - Nydia
      • We are the same way. Anything we get would - sm
      • must be nice to not need $$$ - give me yours
        • Since when is telling the truth called bragging? - Nydia

The messages you are viewing are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select the boards given in left menu

My SIL has worked exactly 3 (count them) 3 months in her entire lazy life.  They took bankruptcy a couple of years ago, of course she wasn't going to go to work and help out then because she said "it's not my fault we are in this mess."  Now my brother is coming up to within 10 years of retirement and actually has problems with arthritis that may cause him to have to retire sooner.  She insists that she should be given a social security check when she "retires" and that she should be eligible for medicare when my brother retires.  She is several years younger than him and I tried to tell her she will have to get out and get private insurance for herself until she is of age.  She insists the government "owes this to her".  I would like to string her up to the highest tree, but I am told that is illegal also. 

Am I crazy?  She certainly can't be put on Medicare just because her husband is eligible can she? 

I think she just figures she will either live on his SS benefits or kill him off with the side jobs in addition to his FT job he has been trying to do to keep her in the style she wants to become accustomed and then be eligible for widow's benefits. 

I guess I really don't understand the SS and Medicare issues, just hoping someone could shed some light on this. 

She simply REFUSES to work regardless of how much they have needed the money and/or benefits.  Can't watch your soaps if you work all day and that is very important to her.  GRRRR.  Sorry to vent.  Will go mind my own business now.

She will receive social security at a rate of 50% of what he receives as long as they have been married for 10 years.  Am not sure if you can begin to collect this at age 6 or have to wait until 65 or 66.  As far as medicare goes though, she is not eligible for this until she reaches 65/66 unless she is deemed disabled and not able to work and then she goes on SSI.   Up to 3 wives-ex-wives can receive 50% of what the husband's social security allotment is without reduction but it never reduces the husband's amount. (as long as they have been married for 10 years).   They did this so that all of the older ladies that never worked in the 40's 50's etc. could receive something when they retired as long as their husband was eligible.  Now if he should die, she will receive more and that will stay in effect until she dies.   With as expensive as Medicare and supplements are becoming it is no longer a deal to get Medicare and hardly any docs will take Medicare "only". 

Patti

i do feel bad for you tho.  i need the sun and warmth.  sun i have in northern Nevada but warmth - not so much!!

was hired by her "interests" from what I can glean from just going and doing some quick searches, and if they're the ones ordering all the privacy stuff, then that goes on their bill, which in turn goes to her. I'll admit I haven't kept up on this closely, so I'm just going by doing some quick searches on Google news, (and of course, believe nothing you read and only half of what you see) but considering the news would dearly love to throw out the fact that taxpayers were paying for this, if it were true, then I would think it's probably true that this is all going on a nice big tab for her.

My cousin had the same kind of order years ago and I promise he got the hospital bill 30 days after getting out, so do you really think she won't, considering she's worth upwards of $40 million?

It's all a moot point, she needs help, hopefully she can get it, and get some modicum of normalcy back in her life, and move forward, and probably end up there again when the paparazzi once again gets her in their sights.

and no matter what I change my settings to, I still get them.  There is no "Don't snow this again" option either. I get them while working on a Sten-Tel platform.  It really slows me down, as I have to do some things several times before they actually go through.  It also adds another toolbar...just what we all need.  That just cuts down the viewable size on your monitor. 

I tried to get IE6 back, which you can't do even with a system restore, but then read about the mandatory automatic "upgrade" so quit trying to get rid of IE7.  Hopefully they may issue some fixes. 

The main thing I'd say is to remain calm and explain to the investigator like you did here.  Their job is to sort out the truth from the fiction.  I was investigated once because my MTSO made false accusations about me to the police. 

I had to answer questions I didn't enjoy but when the interview was over the investigator was done she told me she believed me and I had nothing to worry about, but if the accuser made another call they'd file harassment charges against me. 

The truth is the truth and they'll sort it out.  Patience will serve you well. 

I posted the other day about where I had seen that social worker before, and couldn't find her on the cast list - wouldn't have helped if I had.  I was watching Sally Field on the Boniva commercial and it popped into my head.  Social worker was on that Boniva commercial where those 4 women were supposed to be being quiet in a museum.  Isn't it funny how the brain works?  - haha - especially mine.

No one has come by yet, but it's only Monday, but I did get the house cleaned with the help of my son, his girlfriend, and two of his friends.  I took the advice below about shuffling all my ex-husband's junk to the garage.  He has a fixer upper car in the garage anyway, so I just piled stuff around it, on top of it, and in it.  The garage is a complete mess, but we don't live in there, so whatever.  My son and his buddies cleaned up outside the house too.  We had about 10 bags of trash for the trash truck this morning, but they took every one of them.  Thank goodness!!

I'm way more calmer now than I was on Friday when all this crap broke loose.  Thanks to everyone for calming me down.  I'm ready now for when the social worker stops by.  I saw another officer over the weekend at the gas station and he asked me about my situation, asked me if my ex was ever served and then told me that he was proud of me for finally getting rid of him and that he would talk to his boss about this whole "social services thing."  He said his boss (who was the officer at my house on Friday) doesn't really know the ins and outs of the community like the officers do and he'd make sure he let him know that my ex is the one causing all the trouble.

So that made me feel better too.  I just can't believe how ugly this is getting.  I guess I'd better prepare myself because it will probably get worse before it gets better.  The divorce is just beginning.

freaking out!  My estranged husband, on whom I have a restraining order, showed up at my house today, obviously he had been drinking.  Long story short, one of my son's friends shows up, one that is not allowed at the house.  I immediately sent the teenager away, but my husband proceeds to start raging about how he would run things if he were still living here.  I then told him he could leave as well.  That I kicked the teenager and I expected him to leave too.  He refused and said he would leave if I gave him money because he needs to contribute groceries to his buddy with whom he is staying.  He doesn't work and hasn't worked for much of our marriage.  I told him if he wanted to help out his buddy, he should get a job.  He came into the house, sat down on my couch and refused to leave until I gave him money. 

My son called the police to enforce the restraining order.  The police show up and while he is in their custody, he tells them that I have 10 to 14 teenagers in my house every day and that he doesn't feel that it is a good environment for our 8yo daughter.  He tells there was marijuana in my house. 

So now the police are telling me they have to file a report with family services because my house could be a hostile environment and they have to follow up on every complaint.  The marijuana episode did happen; however, my daughter and I were not at home.  My husband was still living at home at the time and caught my son and a couple of friends smoking it and instead of stopping them immediately and kicking everybody out, I was told that he took a hit off the joint.  I was told that by all three kids whom I questioned separately.  When I confronted my soon to be ex about this, his explanation was that he didn't take a hit, he put it up to his mouth and nose to smell to see if it really was pot.  Still he did not put up fuss, punish our son, or kick anybody.  Instead I find out about the pot from the sister of one of my son's girlfriend who told me because she was worried about her sister and she was the one who originally told me my husband took a hit.

Now, because my husband is angry that I have kicked him out and am filing for divorce, he is telling these lies and half truths to the cops and now I have to worry about getting visited from social services.  I've been crying all evening and I'm wondering what I should expect.  I have to clean my house from top to bottom, make sure this sucker shines and I guess not let my son have any friends over ever again!

I am so upset!  I absolutely hate my ex-husband.  I live in a rat hole as it because he has refused to work and he has junked up with all the crap he refuses to throw away.  The man won't even through away magazines.  I have stacks and stacks of magazines and newspapers that every time I've tried to throw out or recycle, he picked them out of the bins and brought them back into the house.  Now I'm faced with this mountain of crap that I have deal with immediately before I get visited by the social worker. 

I'm sorry to go on and on.  I'm just so overwhelmed and stressed and I just want to curl up in a little ball and die.  My kids are my life.  I don't beat them, I feed them, I clothe them, I play with them, and have fun with them.  They are the reason I work, the reason I breathe.  The idea of having someone come into my home and question my fitness as a mother makes my physically ill.

You guys, thank you for continually listening to my saga.  You guys gave me the strength to kick him out to begin with.

This is my first year having to figure taxes w/ IC and I've only done it for a few months.  I'm wondering if anyone can tell me anything they think would be helpful to me regarding filing my taxes.

Here are a few things I have heard:  That I need to send in 30%-40% of my gross pay quarterly.  I have heard I can claim my office space, percentage of my utilities, and any other cost involved with my work BUT  I have also heard that amount has to exceed a certain $ amount before I will be able to claim it.  That really doesn't make any sense to me but I honestly have no clue. 

We normally have our taxes done by a certain company and am considering going to someone else and, of course, plan to ask him loads of questions but I'd like to have some sort of idea from any of you who are doing this of what to expect.

Thank you for any help you can give me.  

Be sure to read all the way to the end!

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries, then
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers,
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

Put these words
upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove me
to my doom..."

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax,
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Interest expense
Inventory tax
IRS Interest Charges
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service charge taxes
Social Security Tax
Road usage taxes
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

COMMENTS: Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago,
and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class
in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What happened?

And I still have to "press 1" for English
I hope this goes around world 10 times

It's America, I shouldn't have to press
anything to hear English. The constitution
was written in English, not Spanish.

mmm 'scuse me.  I had only my IC income and only Federal taxes to pay last year.  I paid in $7000 and some.  I don't quality for a stimulus check either.  Raking it in? Hardly!  I pay 30% of my taxable income in taxes and I can only take the standard deduction, plus what came out to about $2000 in office expenses last year.  You add up $7K x 3, + 2007 standard deduction for a single person + $2000 and you got my income. 

I don't call that raking it in!

You can claim your adult kids (if you are single) to put you in the head of household category (which is a lower tax bracket) than claiming single. You can't claim married and head of household.   

AND

You have to be able to prove you provided over 50% of their expenses, such a rent, food, utilities.  If they have a job and are working you can't claim them unless you can still prove what you are paying for them is over 50% of their expenses.  So basically they have to have a really lousy job or no job at all or be working spoiled brats!  Mine have fit into all of those categories at one time or another. 

I loved what that professor said on the show about Hurricaine Katrina.  Of course we didn't see who could pay before we rescued them.  We just needed to help them in a time of natural disaster, and the professor pointed out that if a woman gets breast cancer that IS a natural disaster to her.  I don't think she should have a better chance for survival if she is a rich American versus a poor or middle-class American.

If we can afford the very expensive war we have been in for the last 5 years I think we can afford better healthcare for US citizens.  I feel like although it is important to be safe from terrorists, the most likely threat in many of our lives isn't a terrorist's bomb; I think it is a disease that will cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical bills that we may or may not be able to pay.  I think many Americans die each year because they cannot afford the lifesaving treatment they need to save their own lives, and that is tragedy in my book.