Ours attend local college PT and still live at home. Hard to make ends meet "out there" on
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I agree if you need money to support your family you should not be going to school right now...and if your full time job is not cutting it then get a couple part time jobs. i work 3 jobs now; 1 FT and 2 PT and have so much work now its unbelievable. I will never go back to working for just one service. You never know when things are going to be slow. If your husband is not getting enough on disability then he needs to look for something else too...there must be something he can do unless he is totally disabled.
I think in this day and age parents should plan a way for their kids to attend college (sm)
$1000 a month is nothing compared to what it actually takes to raise two kids.
Do you attend a local state fair in the summer? How far
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Do you attend any free local concerts in the summer? Are any offered
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ballparks, raceways, night classes at local jr college, casinos...? NM
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Well I figure I can make my own hours & be home when the kids are home (sm)
I worked PT in an office for a while but spent most of my money on childcare in the summer. Full-time in an office was just a nightmare and I felt like I missed a whole year of my children's lives. I want to be in control of my schedule so that's why I'm looking into the cleaning thing. Never thought I would want to do that but live and learn! Some of the most intelligent people alive work as carpenters and similar things because they have learned what's really important in life. Whew....off my soapbox now :-) Good luck to you!
A local nursing home might appreciate a visit.
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I wonder if she goes home and complains about what a hard day she had! - nm
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Hard to avoid when you live here though - sm
It is all around us here, between the headlines/front pages of the Richmond-Times Dispatch and many people where VT hats, sweatshirts, T-shirts, etc. I see it all around me everywhere I have gone this week. I feel bad for the families of everyone who was affected by this horrible crime. It has everyone on edge around here, a school on the west side arrested a kid yesterday who brought an unloaded handgun to school (not too bright obviously), my kid's school had an "incident" involving a suspicious package yesterday and called in the cops for it, another one on the west side called the cops when they saw 2 guys in camoflage with rifles near the school (they were turkey hunting). The news last night was nothing but false alarms and candle light vigils, yes, it does get a bit depressing but people do need to be more aware and not be afraid to speak up and maybe be wrong (or right) about something they see that they think is not right/suspicious. VT is going to have lots of fallout from this from law suits to people pulling their kids out of school, and a good hard look at why this kid was still at their school though it was known he had serious psych problems, that is the biggest question of them all and their hesitancy in acting is the biggest tragedy of all of this. People have to be so politically correct and dot all the i's and t's in order to cover their butts that they forget that sometimes they just need to act, and act quickly, then go back and do all the justification. There were a million warning signals about this guy but they just swept it under the rug because no one wanted to the the fall/bad guy in dealing with this nut case. The whole thing just stinks.
Make them live outside? This is so funny! Ours live outside, where they WANT to be. sm
Not all dogs want to be in "indoor" dogs, mind you. They have plenty of space to run around and play, fenced, and if they are brought in during bad weather they whine at the back door to go back out! So before you comment on outside dogs, you really need to get your facts straight. Seriously. Not all dogs are made or want to be inside all of the time.
It would be a hard decision to make.
I would think long and hard about it if I was younger and could have cesarean, but the Doc took care of that aspect years ago.
The dramatic increase is probably because the money is good and because they need the money. I think the price used to be a lot higher when this trend started back in the ྂs or ྌs. Like all things, it's the rule of supply and demand. 
Next door neighbor is a Physician's Asst. in local ER. He keeps his black doc bag packed for home
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Scout out baked goods in your local gourmet shops, etc. and make
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Well i have SEEN certain people that make evolution hard to argue!!!
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I do not live in a home of my own and am not permitted to SM
have a pet. I am surprised that is such an issue. I love animals dearly. I would take every stray I could find if I had the money and the property to do so.
If can live together as friends, yes. If home is battle
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some of these states make home visits
monthly to monitor, speaking with the children in private, so ya, it could happen. Educate yourself on the laws of your state and then give yourself a break.
Would you trust "out-of-the-USA" surgery?
Next year alone, an estimated 6 million Americans will travel abroad for surgery, according to a 2008 Deloitte study. "Medical care in countries such as India, Thailand and Singapore can cost as little as 10 percent of the cost of comparable care in the United States," the report found.
Next year alone, an estimated 6 million Americans will travel abroad for surgery, according to a 2008 Deloitte study. "Medical care in countries such as India, Thailand and Singapore can cost as little as 10 percent of the cost of comparable care in the United States," the report found.
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NEW DELHI, India (CNN) -- "I was a walking time bomb. I knew I had to get on that plane if I wanted to be around to see my grandkids."
Sandra Giustina is a 61-year-old uninsured American. For three years she saved her money in hopes of affording heart surgery to correct her atrial fibrillation. "They [U.S. hospitals] told me it would be about $175,000, and there was just no way could I come up with that," Giustina said.
So, with a little digging online, she found several high quality hospitals vying for her business, at a fraction of the U.S. cost. Within a month, she was on a plane from her home in Las Vegas, Nevada, to New Delhi, India. Surgeons at Max Hospital fixed her heart for "under $10,000 total, including travel."
Giustina is just one of millions around the world journeying outside their native land for medical treatment, a phenomenon known as "medical tourism." Experts say the trend in global health care has just begun. Next year alone, an estimated 6 million Americans will travel abroad for surgery, according to a 2008 Deloitte study. "Medical care in countries such as India, Thailand and Singapore can cost as little as 10 percent of the cost of comparable care in the United States," the report found.
Companies such as Los Angeles-based Planet Hospital are creating a niche in the service industry as medical travel planners. One guidebook says that more than 200 have sprung up in the last few years. "We find the best possible surgeons and deliver their service to patients safely, affordably and immediately," said Rudy Rupak, president of Planet Hospital. "No one should have to choose between an operation to save their life or going bankrupt."
Planet Hospital, which works with international clients as well as Americans, books patients' travel and arranges phone interviews with potential surgeons. Patients are greeted by a company representative at the airport in the country where they've chosen to be treated; a 24-hour personal "patient concierge" is also provided, a level of service that's standard among many of the top medical travel planning companies. Watch Dr. Sanjay Gupta meet some medical tourists »
"Our patient concierge was amazing," said Giustina. "He came to the hospital every day, gave us his personal [telephone] number and after my operation, he arranged private tours of India." Just two days post-op, Giustina and her husband, Dino, toured local markets and landmarks including the Presidential Palace and the Taj Mahal.
"I was able to fix my heart and tour India, which is something I thought I'd never do."
Walk through a patient wing at Max Hospital in New Delhi on any given day and you're likely to see people from around the world. In one visit, CNN met patients from the United Kingdom, Nigeria, Jordan, Afghanistan and the United States. They're alike in choosing surgery abroad, but their reasons differ.
Many South Asians and Africans said they travel abroad because they do not have access to care in their homeland.
Some Canadians and Europeans said they chose to travel aboard, despite having national health plans, because they are tired of waiting -- sometimes years -- for treatment.
Patients from the Middle East said they come to India because the technology as well as the staff is more advanced.
For most Americans CNN spoke to, it came down to finding the best value. "If I could have afforded my procedure in the United States, I would have taken it, but that was not my option," Giustina said. "I had to get online and look for a Plan B." Read about hot destinations for medical tourism
The private hospitals in India market themselves as having upscale accommodations, Western-trained surgeons and state-of-the-art medical equipment.
CNN spent time at Max Healthcare in New Delhi and saw operating rooms similar to those in many U.S. hospitals. If fact, Max's neurosurgery room had an inter-operative MRI scanner, which is technology hardly seen at hospitals in the United States.
The lobby had marble floors, a book café, coffee station and a Subway sandwich shop. The patient suites were equipped with flat screen TVs, DVD players and Wi-Fi. This hospital also catered to families traveling together. The suites had adjoining rooms with a kitchenette, coffee maker and a sofa bed.
Max neurosurgeon Dr. Ajaya Jha said the hospital can provide high-quality care at low prices because the staff work hard to cut waste. Watch Dr. Gupta visit an Indian spice market »
"I've seen hospitals in the U.S. where they open up something costing $10,000 and say, 'Oh it's not working. OK, give me another one.' We would never do that here. Even for 100 rupees (about $2) -- we would say, "Do we need to open this suture? Do we need to open this gauze?' We are very conscious of cost."
Hospital officials negotiate hard to keep costs low for high-tech medical machinery and other supplies, Jha said. "In the U.S. people are making careers out of carrying laptops and documenting things that are not really useful in the long term for the patient."
The salary of a U.S. surgeon is five times that of a surgeon in India. "We [surgeons in India] want to make a profit, but we don't want to profiteer. We don't want squeeze people and I think American industries should also think that way," Jha said.
Critics of medical tourism warn patients to be diligent when researching treatment aboard. "I've found that industry voices tend to crowd out those of us who are more cautious about the legal risks," said Nathan Cortez, assistant law professor at Southern Methodist University, who is conducting a case study investigating what legal recourse patients have outside America.
Patients don't think about their legal vulnerabilities, Cortez said. "Some countries limit patient access to medical records so they can't really learn what happened during the surgery. And a lot of practitioners in other countries just refuse to give you your medical records. So people have to weigh the risk versus benefits."
While most tourism patients from America are uninsured, major U.S. insurance companies are considering providing "medical tourism" coverage to their customers. Several have already launched pilot programs.
"I think what's really important about medical tourism is that you make the choice for what's right for you and what's important to them," said a spokesman for U.S. health insurer WellPoint Inc.
Experts say that every patient considering traveling abroad for surgery should inquire about postoperative care, legal rights and the safety standards and certifications of the hospital. Foreign health care providers should be willing to discuss the procedure and answer question ahead of time.
"What really helped me feel good about the process was that my doctor in the U.S. spoke to the cardiologist in India prior to my trip," said Giustina. "They were so open about everything; I knew I'd be in good hands."
Just weeks from returning from abroad, Giustina says she has only one regret, "I shouldn't have waited so long! I feel like a new person again, no more pain."
Just thought this would make everyone happy. Last night on my way home sm
I saw the dang dog lying out in the yard scratching his back on the grass and when i drove by he looked up at me. He's definitely a big lab mix. He looked perfectly fine to me. My husband thinks that I may have just hit him but not run him over. Who knows. It's a miracle. I was very happy to see him last night. But, he's still loose, so........
If neither has a job, apparently nothing else to do but stay home & make babies. nm
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Meant keep their noses "out" of where it don't belong
sorry bout the type.
What is sadder is the grandparents live in a small home, 3 bedroom, and filed bankruptcy 2 years ago
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My diabetic FIL ends up in the
hospital all the time for cellulitis in his leg where a vein was harvested. He always needs IV drugs for that. One time my in-laws were on the road. They couldn't even make it home. They had to stop at midpoint in their 4-hour drive and have him admitted. He almost died. Thank goodness my MIL is a nurse and can recognize the signs early enough. He was getting septic.
anything that ends in TION sm
Which is not good because I put commonly misspelled words into my Expander but do you realize how many words end in TION????
but I know what you mean by putting off the hotkey thing. I have several words that fit that description... all variations (btw I just typed variatinos) of anything that starts with chole... kind of a mental block or something...
Go in now before it ends up costing you more . ..
Talk to your hospital to see if they accept a payment plan. I didn't have to pay anything up front for my delivery, so I would think you should be able to wait and make payments. Better to go in now versus continue to be in pain.
Good luck.
My daughter got to see too ends of the spectrum
One of her friends got very little since her parents are divorced and there isn't much money on either side. My friends across the street probably spent (between 3 kids) $5,000 (and their credit cards are all maxed out). They got a Wii(which I actually love and am thinking about saving up money for for the family), instruments for each child and quite a few other gifts. My daughter was the in between. She did get an MP3 player, but not super expensive (I got one too) and not too much else that would be considered expensive, some DVD's and CD's. She wanted a cell phone (her 7 year old cousin actually got a camera phone!), but we told her no because she just wanted it to talk to her friends and text. She does have a laptop, but that's because her cousin gave me one that she had and didn't need any more. All in all between our two daughters we probably spent about $200-$300 each.
Just about everything ends up on YouTube eventually.
The news is important. I recall I did not have a T.V. signal during 9/11 and it was 9:50 AM PST by the time I realized what had happened. I felt I had been sailing through the day when I should have been feeling dispair, and that was strange.
During a break, on 9/11, I opened up AOL and two a pic of the Twin Towers with smoke pouring out of their sides, just a small pic and I nearly did not read it.
Yep, it starts in kindergarten and ends at MT Stars
"This is the song that never ends...."sm
and when you hear someone sing it you can't get it out of your mind for hours!
lucky stiff! Mine ends in 75 and due to be deposited by May 9
since 75 is the very last number in that group i'm expecting it to be deposited ON May 9 *sigh*
I'm one of those "gotta see it to believe it" people so it's nice to know someone actually did recieve thiers!!
At the church I used to attend --
they instituted a "reform program," whereby the associate pastor and elder members of the church agreed to take in single men who were recently paroled. They dressed up and brought them to church every week. They were introduced when they first came, but nothing was mentioned about their "crime life", etc.
My point is, to the newer church goers, these men seemed like perfectly respectable church-going men, all the while they weren't. Please keep this in mind.
Thank you, Lilly! Unfortunately, I do have to attend with him and the other gentleman
because of the nature of the conference and both of them are the district heads. However, although I do believe he is a very kind and respectable person, I feel a bit too vulnerable at the moment to go it alone, so I contacted an MT I know from the area we are going to and she is going to meet me for dinner that evening and show me some of the shops. This gives me my "out" not to have dinner with them and also to stay within my boundaries.
I am a widow, so these feelings are more to new to me than I can actually express in words, but it has been a long time since I felt that comfortable around a man since my husband. However, as many of you posted, the timing is not right and I will not compromise my integrity as a person. I have faith that God will guide me in the right direction and I am happy, in a way, to know that there is hope that I will feel those "feelings" again with another person, although this is just not the one to be feeling them with.
oh but he did attend 4 yrs of school in Korea
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she got VISA to attend way too late to come.SM
and Brad was great too.....different types of singers/performers....
don't be sore about it....*lol*
Do not do anything else until you attend marriage counseling - sm
You owe it not only to the kids (who did not ask to be born into this) but you owe it to yourselves to seek marriage counseling before just deciding to up and divorce without seeking outside professional help. Until you can say you tried everything under the sun to make it work and can truly walk out the door with no undone and unsaid business with your husband you are not even ready for divorce. Give it a try. I have been down this road before (but for other reasons) and can tell you it turned us around. We are celebrating 25 years this September and have never been happier. Best of luck to you both. 
Spiritual in other ways aside from God. Don't attend church.
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Daughter wants to attend birthday party
My daughter is 10 and her friend will be 11. Her friend has been to our house numerous times and she is a SWEET girl. HOWEVER, her parents and their home is incredibly dirty. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a neat freak myself but their home is filfthy, as are they. Took their daughter home one day and they came outside, along with one of their younger sons who was in his underwear that looked soiled/brown/gray. Her mother seems nice enough but I get the feeling there is some sort of mental illness going on. Every time I've been around her I can tell she has major hygiene issues, built up plaque on her teeth and dirt under her nails, dirty clothes, etc. I'm not trying to be judgmental; I just don't want to allow my daughter to go to their house. Her friend is more than welcome here. I'm concerned this is going to possibly cause friction with the girls. I've talked with the mother of another friend in the group and she understands where I'm coming from, as she feels the same way. Wondering if any of you may have any suggestions for me. I know the girls are getting older and I'm sure my daughter's friend is realizing that her friends aren't allowed to her house, yet she can visit them. I really feel for her and I wonder how many girls will actually show for her party, yet I don't want to run the risk of my daughter coming home with lice or something.
I homeschool my daughter, but allow her to attend public school for the SM
social aspects. She is way ahead of her grade academically. Eventually, she will either be homeschooled exclusivelly or I will enroll her in a magnet school or alternative school.
What would you all do? My SIL is making my DH attend my nephew's HS grad in Texas this June...sm
We live in Illinois.
He would be taking my youngest son with him also. The total cost of the trip for the two of them would easily be $2000 since my DH does not get paid for taking time off work. If he takes this trip that would mean no vacation for me or my other two kids next year since that's pretty much all we can afford is one vacation a year. She is insisting her only brother (DH) be there at the actual ceremony which is on a Tuesday evening. Then afterwards they plan on going out to dinner to celebrate - no party that would be it.
I would rather we go the following week, drive the entire family and stay the week and celebrate the whole week with them. My son graduates high school in two years and I don't expect her to be at the ceremony for that. We probably wouldn't have enough tickets for her anyway.
DH doesn't have the guts to tell her "No" since she's laying the guilt trip pretty thick.
Do you think we are obligated to go to the ceremony? She has more than enough family members that live over there that could attend (grandparents, aunts, uncles, her other children).
Thanks for any input.
If they want to meet with you....
I would say go ahead and meet them and see what you think. It could be they're looking for a way to get a housekeeper without having to pay benefits and taxes. In that case, quiz them thoroughly about what is expected of you as far as duties, hours and days you will be expected to be available.
It could be legit, but just proceed with caution and trust your instincts.
Who would you most like to meet and why?
My son's homework. The teacher gave them a day to think about who they would most like to meet and why and then write a detailed paper (he's in the 11th grade).
Anyone ever think about this?
So where does one meet these days?
So how does a single person meet someone then, especially if not into the bar scene at all? Okay - let me list where I might meet someone: Church...which usually is very limited because almost everyone is married. Any other suggestions? I know what a huge list I have....
Nice to meet ya!
From the Cape May area on the bay. Are you that far south? - Deena
Meet and greet
I'm going at 1:00. What a shame - I'd love to meet you!
Glad to Meet You....
Now let's see if we get flamed for our beliefs.
Haha, a virtual "burning at the stake," if you will.
When I first read you post, your personality sounds identical to mine. Now that I know we share 'religious' convictions, I wonder if that's indicative of our beliefs impacting our outlooks on life...
Hmmmmm. Interesting!!!
How did you meet your significant other?
With all the posts about how many times you were married or divorced, I thought I'd ask how you met your DH. So how did you meet? Were you high school sweethearts, friends? did you work together? Was it love at first sight or couldn't stand the sight of them?
I lived across the street for about 2 years from where my DH worked but never saw him there. I met him at my grandfather's house in another state. He worked with my uncle who lived with my grandfather. DH lived down the road from my uncle and had gone to school with my uncle's son. It wasn't love at first sight for me. We would run into each other at my grandfather's house and he sort of grew on me. LOL! We've been married for 15 years now.
The two people I would have most liked to meet ....sm
were before my time....Elvis Presley and Marilyn Monroe. There is a tribute artist who is eerily like Elvis I would like to meet though. His name is Shawn Klush. Youtube him. You will be impressed. Going to see him in June.
I wish! I'd love to meet him!
I'm sure they get a million phone calls though.
I just talked to my husband again and we decided to keep him until he looks better, and then we will find him a good home. He's already growing on me, so I have to be careful or I'll get too attached! :)
There's a line in Meet The Parents...
*You can pretty much milk anything with nipples.*
I think it's better to meet people in person around where
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I don't meet the survey target , but
my two boys had a 10:00 p.m. curfew on school nights when they were 16. Curfew was 11:00 on weekends, unless something special was happening. I was told I was absolutely barbaric for setting such early times. My kids didn't tell me that. Other parents did. Not that I cared, mind you.
Each son proved himself to be trustworthy and responsible, and so the day they turned 18, all curfews were lifted. I only asked as a matter of courtesy that they tell me where they were going and give me an approximate time to expect them home so that I knew when to officially start worrying. They didn't have to tell me, but I asked them to tell me, which they did. In fact, for the first week or so after they turned 18 they'd ask me for permission to do something or go somewhere, and I'd reply, "Why are you asking me? You're an adult!" LOL!
They are 18 and 20 now, and doing just fine. The 18 year-old is commuting to a university in our city. He refers to us as his college roommates.
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