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Oregon man says he's pregnant

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Thomas Beatie, who used to be a woman, appeared in the most recent issue of The Advocate, a magazine for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender readers, Portland, Ore., television station KPTV reported.

Beatie wrote the article, which includes a picture of him while he was 22 weeks pregnant. According to the story, he went through a sex change, but decided only to have chest reconstruction and testosterone therapy.

Beatie was able to keep the reproductive organs he was born with. The article said he stopped getting the injections and was able to get pregnant.

Beatie, who lives in Bend, wrote he was once pregnant with triplets, but the pregnancy was life-threatening and he lost the fetuses. Now, Beatie said he and his wife, Nancy, are expecting a little girl in July.

In the article, Beatie described some of the challenges he and his wife have faced -- they said doctors won't treat them. The couple met 10 years ago and Nancy is not able to have children.

He wrote in The Advocate that their situation "sparks legal, political and social unknowns."

The couple were out of town Monday and unable to speak with the station.


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$2.65/gal here in Oregon...sm

DH and I drive cross country every year to Philly and for the past 3 years Oregon has been the highest place each time. Wyoming and Kansas have always been the best prices. We are not allowed to pump our own gas here, which believe it or not I miss doing! I can do it a lot faster than some of the people who work at some of our stations!


Gas here in Oregon is...

$3.25 to $3.35 and has been for several weeks; we have been well over $3 for some time now. I am driving cross country to Philly next week and will look forward to paying (hopefully) a bit less. I live in the country, 25 miles from town, my husband drives to work every day 66 miles round trip. Not buying gas for one day may sound like something to do, but just think how much more people will buy on the 16th of the month. The fact is, if you have the $$$ and want to drive you will. I have an SUV, will take it cross country, and will pay what I have to. We have taken this trip every year for 4 years (twice in one year in 2005) and we have never seen a decrease in RVs, trucks, or traffic ever. We are a country obsessed with cars and driving. City dwellers with good public transporation are lucky, but those of us who live rurally make the trade off of paying more each time we go to town.


Yup, that was right here in Oregon
in fact it was the sister hospital of the hospital I worked in for 3 years. They had to call 911 because there was no doctor in the hospital. I don't think the surgeon was even there- they paged him and he told them to call 911.

The hospital was not leqally required to have a doctor on site 24/7 (can't remember the reason why) but they should not have done her surgery there because of that fact due to her age and the risks. They just didn't want to lose the money. They are history now, thank God.
FOG IN OREGON
Here in Portland, I can leave here and no fog and two miles away be fogged in so be care of what you say.  And it can be a light in one place and heavy in another causing a delay -- give her a break.  The counselor was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.  I do not believe in pampering the children but they are children and must be handled as such.   These type of people should not be in these positions, they like the power over the kids and act like a warden in a prison.  
Here in Oregon $3.48 and above...
and it has been high for quite a long time. My Explorer takes about $65 to fill, which is not too bad, and my husband's commuter Subaru fills up at about $35, also pretty reasonable. I was in line behind a Suburban the other day and it topped out at over $90. We are driving cross country in 3 weeks; good thing we have cash saved up for the gas bill we will get in June!
Oregon here
Man is it frustrating. I also have caller ID so I don't pick up, but what they do is this. They call and use an 887 number. I don't pick up and within 2 or 3 minutes later they call back with the "private name, private number", I don't pick up and maybe 5 minutes later they call back with a 800 number. Like I say, I don't pick up but it is very frustrating. Especially when you do pick up and nobody is there. I've picked up once or twice so I can tell them off but nobody is on the other line.
I live in Oregon

This happens so often out here in Oregon.  People go unprepared, onto roads that they do not know, no extra food, water, etc.  There were signs posted all over the road that they took -- "road closed by snow"  Bad road, etc.  But they ignored the signs and kept going.  They even moved rocks off of the road and kept on going.  With kids in the car, they should have turned around.   I really feel bad for them and my heart goes out to the mother but they had warnings all along the road and just ignored them.  That is what is going to live with her forever.  And to start out at 8 o'clock to go over mountain passes on roads you don't know -- just does not make sense to me.   That is one of the worst roads in Oregon and really is not a road just a logging road mainly.   My prayers are with them.   Again, I don't even head out from Portland in the winter without water, flares, shovel, blankets, food, etc. if I am even going on the Interstate down south to visit friends about 3 hours away because you never know what will happen.  


 


In southwest Oregon
Its low 80s....beautiful sunny day, but feels like high 80s. Suppose to hit 100 here by end of week.
Portland Oregon 2.05 - 2.09.
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Its 31 in southern Oregon
And feels like 20 degrees inside my house.
Portland Oregon? I think about retiring there

I dream of relocating to Oregon - because it's the only state that allows physician-assisted suicide so that people who have terminal diagnoses can end the life the way they want to.  (no flames please, to each his/her own).


Signed:  A Jack Kevorkian Supporter!


P.S. please, really, let's not get into it folks...no flames


It's 31 degs in southern oregon
and even colder inside my house (or so it feels like). Lucky DH is still under the electric blanket.
Oregon mileage tax in place of gas tax
Hubby mentioned this to me yesterday...I said there's no way it would pass since it seems to be an intrusion of privacy...but apparently Oregon thinks it's a good idea. If it passes in Oregon, all the other states will follow in their footsteps and Big Brother will be truly be in the passenger seat. I'm all for going green and reducing oil consumption but I think this crosses the line.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-gas-tax4-2009jan04,0,1063687.story
Portland, Oregon people ....

on Portland area, nice neighborhoods or nearby towns to live, rentals, real estate companies, local colleges.  Thanks.


34 right now, central Oregon coast range....
20 miles inland from the Pacific Ocean. May get up to 47 today, woo hoo!
Live in Oregon, just DH and me, spend about 400 a month...
give or take including cat supplies. Costco every 4 to 5 weeks. Love really good bread, yogurt, real half and half for my coffee and fresh fruit and veggies no matter what the cost. Eat out on an average of 4 times a week, lunch or dinner on our days off, not fast food (Ugh). Cook everything from scratch, no boxes or cans here, except for pasta. I don't eat red meat on a regular basis, chicken every now and then, but DH gets his steak, chops, whatever, ( I get the big pkg at Costco) at least twice a week. I have only seen a spike in dairy and bread products, but I won't buy cheap, to me it's not worth it; if I'm eating it, I want it to taste good and not be loaded with preservatives, etc. I'd rather spend 2.98 a pound for really good apples instead of 98 cents a pound for mealy ones. I'm Italian, so food is a religion for me and it better be good!
I'm in Eugene/Springfield area of Oregon
We just had a light dusting of snow in the night that melted off this afternoon, but we're supposed to get several inches on the valley floor with the next storm, Wednesday I think.
I'd work in Oregon with a real snowdog team.
I hear you can get to snow 10 months out of the year, and they have an outfit that takes tourists out with sled teams. And they let people bring their own dogs and hitch them up and do a little pulling with an experienced team. How fun would that be.
the wild west of oregon! go east to see family...
every year. my sis brought me to NYC one year and that did it, i was hooked on handbags! originally from the big city and forgot how many good buys there are if you look for them!
Oregon estimating 1.27 million Oregonians sick.
Estimates
Oregon's plans for responding to a moderate pandemic assume one would sicken 1.27 million Oregonians, sending an estimated 12,000 to the hospital and killing 2,500. Health officials don't track every case of the flu but estimate that about 10 percent of Oregonians -- or 379,000 -- fall sick from regular, seasonal influenza on average each year. And across the country, influenza and its complications kill about 36,000 people and send 226,000 to hospitals.

Swine flu has not been identified in any of the samples tested from Oregon patients, but labs continue to process them. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have developed a confirmatory test for swine flu and are distributing it to states. Oregon should have those supplies by Monday, Kohn said.
Snow in Oregon, I am in rural coastal range near Newport...
absolutely beautiful. We have about 2 inches right how at 5 a.m.
RE: PREGNANT MT
1) Yes with my daughter.
2) the entire 9 months....

1) not with my sons at all.

Good luck, but try keeping soda crackers with you and eat those and 7-up or bottled water....that does help somewhat. Be sure and let your doc know about it. good luck with your pregnancy!!
You said we got pregnant, you and your
sister, aunt, who was the other female you are speaking about when you said we got pregnant again?
pregnant WE...
I too referred to US being pregnant, not just me...If you're blessed enough to have a supportive and loving partner who takes an active role in the pregnancy, then you both indeed are pregnant...You were blessed twice after your miscarriage...congratulations!
She is pregnant again.
A savvy female lead my son to believe he could come live with her, and everthing would be paradise. This was when he was 17-years-old.  She was pregnant at that time with someone's elses kid.  He did not care.  He loved her as much as a 17-year old can love.  OK fast forward.  Now he is just 22.  He has had 2 beautiful daughters in the meantime.  I think that is enough.  Neither one of them are working.  I go ever there today on my day off, and he says, "mom there is no easy way to tell you this".  She is PREGNANT again.  Supposedly she had an IUD, I don't believe that.  Either they are both lying or my son is gullible.  They both claim she had a 10-year IUD in so it is "mean to be". If they had the finances to support 4 kids, great news.  But they don't.  I am spending at least 250 a month keeping their utilities on, that does not count food.
How did you first know you were pregnant?

Did you notice certain symptoms before taking a test or going to the doctor?  I am just wondering because my period is 2 months late and my breasts are so swollen and ridiculously sore.  I am hesitating to take a pregnancy test because we have been trying for almost 2 years and every time I never turn out pregnant.  Looking forward to reading your replies.  Thanks!


yes and no, I got it when I was pregnant and had hypothyroidism
but it does NOT have to be underlying sign of malignancy, they are just being careful. Sometimes it's just rotten luck.
When I was 7-1/2 mos. pregnant, my hubby and I went as a sm
pregnant nun and a priest.
Has anyone ever been pregnant and had a CT angiogram done? sm
I have a previous history of PE and thought I had another blood clot to my lung.  So after a night stay in the hospital, several doctors telling me that I really needed this done, that it could be possibly life-threatening for me and the baby, that I went against my better judgment and had one done with the contrast dye.  I am almost 10 weeks pregnant and I know this is a very critical time for the development of my little one. Good news, no blood clot, but I am wishing I would have listened to my own heart and not what everyone else was telling me.  They did shield me extremely well.  I laid on one lead shield while two huge, thick lead shields were placed directly below my lungs on top of each other.  Any input would be helpful and any prayers would greatly be appreciated also.  The day before I saw my beautiful baby kicking and acting fiesty on ultrasound. It would kill me knowing that I did something wrong to it.
Ever wonder why pregnant women don't

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Scientists think they have figured out why pregnant women don't lose their balance and topple over despite ever-growing weight up front.
 
Slight differences in the spine allow women to carry the growing load of pregnancy without toppling over.


Evolution provided slight differences from men in women's lower backs and hip joints, allowing them to adjust their center of gravity, new research shows.


This elegant engineering is seen only in female humans and our immediate ancestors who walked on two feet, but not in chimps and apes, according to a study published in Thursday's journal Nature.


"That's a big load that's pulling you forward," said Liza Shapiro, an anthropology professor at the University of Texas and the only one of the study's three authors who has actually been pregnant. "You experience discomfort. Maybe it would be a lot worse if (the design changes) were not there."


Harvard anthropology researcher Katherine Whitcomb found two physical differences in male and female backs that until now had gone unnoticed: One lower lumbar vertebra is wedged-shaped in women and more square in men; and a key hip joint is 14 percent larger in women than men when body size is taken into account.


The researchers did engineering tests that show how those slight changes allow women to carry the additional and growing load without toppling over -- and typically without disabling back pain.


"When you think about it, women make it look so very easy," Whitcomb said. "They are experiencing a pretty impressive challenge. Evolution has tinkered ... to the point where they can deal with the challenge.
"It's absolutely beautiful," she said. "A little bit of tinkering can have a profound effect."


Walking on two feet separates humans from most other animals. And while anthropologists still debate the evolutionary benefit of walking on two feet, there are notable costs, such as pain for pregnant females. Animals on all fours can better handle the extra belly weight.


The back changes appear to have evolved to overcome the cost of walking on two feet, said Harvard anthropology professor Daniel Lieberman.


When the researchers looked back at fossil records of human ancestors, including the oldest spines that go back 2 million years to our predecessor, Australopithecus, they found a male without the lower-back changes and a female with them.


But what about men with stomachs the size of babies or bigger? What keeps them from toppling over?


Their back muscles are used to compensate, but that probably means more back pain, theorized Shapiro, who added: "It would be a fun study to do to look at men with beer bellies to see if they shift their loads."


It's her 16 y/o sister who is pregnant, not her.
Unbelievable.
I would like it that they don't get pregnant to begin with.
n,m,
Ohhhhh....Pregnant!

When I was pregnant that was the only time I experienced Charlie Horses! I would get leg cramps so bad at night it would literally jolt me out of a sound sleep! I wonder if it also has something to do with the pressure the baby is putting on the pelvic area and somehow affecting the blood flow to the legs, in which case, supplements aren't going to help?


Have you heard about the pregnant man?
I was just watching The View.  The man (woman) who was pregnant last year, is pregnant again?   
First off, you're pregnant

that in itself will make this situation feel 10 times worse than it is.  Having said that, I do agree that I would be a little miffed, myself.  It's not like you're intruding on her wedding day/weekend.  She's already married and this is simply a celebration party for her on Friday night. 


I would also agree with the poster below that you have grown apart.  Being that you've been married for 10 years and are expecting, I would venture to guess that you're probably a little more mature (for lack of a better word) than she is as well.  I'm not busting on single women, here, it's just that I remember the "fun years" before I got married and then before I had children.  You're just at different places in your life.


The best way to handle the situation is to go to her party as planned.  I would not splurge for the $50 gift card.  I'd go with something a little more subtle.  If you'd like to rekindle the friendship, you might include a photo of the 2 of you back in your "wild days."  You don't need to stay for the entire party, either.  Anyone would understand a pregnant woman would be tired from such a long travel and then the party.  When you leave, be sure to seek her out and let her know that you'd still like for her to come to your celebration the following day.  If not, let it go.


If you haven't done so yet, be sure to send her a thank you card for the gift.  Believe it or not, some people would think they didn't need to get you anything if they weren't coming to your party (not that that makes it right).  You have so much to look forward to and baby showers are way better than bridal showers/receptions anyday.  You can eat as much as you want and all your guests will say is how "cute you look".  Don't let this dampen your day. 


I did not get bloating when I was pregnant....sm
Congrats on being pregnant.

But....since I did not want to go out and buy lots of maternity clothes (at least at first) as we knew we would only have one child... I used rubber bands on my pants and jeans. You loop one end through the buttonhole and hook the other end over the button. You have to wear a tunic length top of course, but it was worth it. Instant ease and comfort.

Congrats again!!
I was another statistic - pregnant at 18 - sm
After years of growth and raising children, first in my first, forced, bad marriage and now in my second marriage, which so far has lasted 23 years, I came to a couple of conclusions.
First, I can't speak for all girls, but I know I reached out for sex as a substitue for the loving and caring I was supposed to get at home, not just from my father, but from my mother, too. I vowed to make sure my children would get the love they needed and not feel it necessary to look elsewhere while they were still "children."

Second, living a virtuous life generally means living a simpler life. Yeah, you have to put up with peer pressure, but then you don't have to worry about sneaking around, getting caught, getting pregnant, getting STDs. You don't have complicated decisions to make about adoption, abortion, how to tell your partner you have herpes, etc, etc, etc.

As my kids were growing, what we would watch on TV was the launch pad for conversations about morality and common sense. No lectures - they wouldn't have listened - just "see how complicated her life just got?" or "my, he just had to heap lie on top of lie!" etc.

My daughter is 17 and graduating this month, my son is 20. They are both still virgins (yes, they communicate with me and I do know!). My daughter is very goal-oriented and set on college and not letting anything get in the way.

How we raise our children CAN make a difference!

I'm not pregnant - but my sister is and only her husband ....sm
knows besides me. She's only about a month along. This is their 2rd child. Her son is fine and he'll be excited to find out that he'll get a brother or sister in the future when they tell him, grandparents, etc.
I'm pregnant - 5 weeks along, 1st pregnancy....sm
My husband & I are thrilled that we conceived so quickly, especially with my being 43 and him being 50.  We got married in June and started trying then.  His 15-year-old daughter and our 6-year-old foster daughter are excited.  Next year will be fabulous as we'll be finalizing the adoption of our foster daughter in January and having a baby in June! 
At least in the inner cities, this is when the kids are getting pregnant. Age 11 and up.
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After suffering a miscarriage, I'm pregnant again!....sm

I had a miscarriage in November at 8 weeks after having abnormal test results and got pregnant after my first period in December.  I'm now 7-1/2 weeks and the baby looks great on the ultrasound and blood work they drew.  I'm due on September 14th and my husband & I are tickled pink (or is that blue?) 


For those of you who responded to my post in November about having the miscarriage thanks for the support and encouraging us to try again.  I've had a lot of women tell me that they had a successful pregnancy after a miscarriage and while the emotional pain of the miscarriage is still there, it was comforting to know I wasn't alone. 


Oh, my, did not know you included a male as being a pregnant
person, thought surely a we were pregnant meant another female, just call me old fashioned but when I grew up only females got pregnant, carried the babies, had the babies. Just have never heard of a male being pregnant but will take your word for it. I guess times have changed.
To be honest, when I was pregnant with my 3rd child, ,sm
I developed, around the 7th month, a nesting instinct where I could NOT sit still. I went from a couch potato to cleaning freak. I also began to drink tons of water for the first time and cut my cola consumption in half and then went completely to diet drinks, which I will have 3-4 per week now (no more colas). I found that just moving, piddling around, bending and stooping over picking up toys and clothes A LOT during the day has helped greatly to tighten up my stomach muscles. We live on a hill and I like to walk it 5 or 6 times a day.

The key to my weight loss was not sitting in front of the t.v. for long periods of time. I know that 99% of the people on this website work many hours a week and spend a lot of time sitting down in front of the computer. To you I say, get up, get moving all throughout the day, even if it is just 5 minute intervals at a time. It took me years (4 or 5), to keep my weight down like this, but I'm not a size 6 anymore. I am very comfortable with my weight, but it is the daily disciplines that will help you. Start now. Drink plenty of water, walk, take care of yourself and know that you are worth it!

Oh, one more thing! As soon as I get up in the morning I put my socks and tennis shoes on. Always. This helps me to move around a lot quicker and motivates me to do so much around the house. Good luck. Baby steps.
I would have hit that panic button if she said pregnant!
This is exactly what is happening all over the states, people in a panic, not me - I told her just to check with her physician next week. If it is not a mysterious box or package being found and a panic about that, it is this or something else, all the time. I was actually relieved to hear what she said!
milkman and pregnant woman
When I was young some friends did the milkman and pregnant woman thing. Actually, he was in the milk industry, so it was pretty funny. All he needs is a white shirt and pants and a milk bottle rack with milk bottles. If you are pregnant, there you are! Instant costume! I tried to get my husband to be a horses a$$ and I would be the front, but it was a no go, because he was insulted that I thought he was perfect for the part. Later on, he admitted he was one sometimes, but didn't want to call attention to it in case there was anyone left who had not noticed yet. Adam and Eve would be good, except you would get arrested for going without clothes unless the party is at a nudist colony or you could go as Adam and Eve after he ate the apple and they both promptly found leaves. Get some leaves and an apple and there you are! It would be cheaper and easier though if you went to the colony because all you would need then would be an apple! I wonder if nudist colonies have Halloween Parties?
People can get pregnant on an IUD. I have two relatives who did.
You have to wonder why she hasn't had her tubes tied, and why he hasn't had a vasectomy and gotten a full-time job since he's perfectly able-bodied. At least if they're living off the dole, one or both should be going to college on grants to eventually be able to support four kids.
I celebrate being single and when I'm pregnant.
I'm not 16, however. Her sister is young and made a mistake. I'm not going to judge her ability to parent based on what Britney has done.
hey i heard that brittany was pregnant? what gives... is she or not?
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LOL - I used to dream of Kramer when I was pregnant LOL (nm)
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Pregnant unmarried Teenagers!
I know and have known of several it is as old as time itself and will continue to be ~I know when I was a teen My mother would threaten us to be sent to a home for unwed mothers fear of God she put in us girls- now It is an everyday thing even to put daycare centers in for them lotsa free stuff so where is the sting? Is there one? or is it no big thing anymore!
I got pregnant while vacationing in London
DS likes to say he has been to London!